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| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 9:33pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Jehovah's Witnesses, Russia, Spy activities, Penetration of Jehovah's Witnesses by Russian spies. Why? Because of their funding of Neo Nazi Militia groups and Money Laundering. Hence, why JWS are called Extremists! I told you all that this Watchtower Bible and Tract Society are nothing but spies being used by different groups for different Political reasons. The KGB found all this out and went to confiscate the Jehovah's Witness branch in Ukraine. KGB documents expose this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Stn3jmuB0g?si=OulUU7v1cT--gisC |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:20pm On Sep 04, 2024 |
Noah carried out preaching work...... 2021 Early witnesses of Jehovah faced unresponsive listeners. For example, Noah was “a preacher of righteousness,” likely for decades. (2 Pet. 2:5) No doubt, he hoped that others would respond favorably to his preaching, but Jehovah gave no such indication. Rather, when instructing Noah to build the ark, God said: “You must go into the ark, you, your sons, your wife, and your sons’ wives with you.” (Gen. 6:18) And considering the dimensions and capacity of the ark that God told him to build, Noah may have realized that any response to his preaching would be limited. (Gen. 6:15) As matters turned out, not one person from that violent world responded to Noah’s preaching. (Gen. 7:7) Did Jehovah view Noah as a failure? Not at all! In God’s eyes, Noah was a successful preacher because he faithfully did what Jehovah had asked him to do.—Gen. 6:22......... 2021We do not know whether Noah led a preaching campaign ![]() When Noah heard Jehovah’s warning message, he proved that he had faith by building the ark. (Read Hebrews 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20.) Similarly, people who hear the good news about God’s Kingdom must act on what they hear. (Acts 3:17-20) Peter called Noah “a preacher of righteousness.” (2 Pet. 2:5) However, as discussed in the preceding article, we do not know whether Noah led a preaching campaign to reach everyone living on earth before the Flood. Today we are involved in a global preaching work, and we endeavor to have a zealous share in it. Still, try as we might, we cannot possibly reach everyone on earth with the good news before the end comes. Why not?....... 2024More on Noah did not carry out a preaching campaign We do not know how Jehovah judged each individual; nor do we know whether those who were killed had an opportunity to learn about Jehovah and to repent. In regard to the time of the Flood, the Bible does say that Noah was “a preacher of righteousness.” (2 Pet. 2:5) But it does not say that while he was building a colossal ark, he was also attempting to reach every individual on earth who would face destruction in the Deluge. Similarly, in the case of the nations of Canaan, we do not know if all those wicked people had an opportunity to learn about Jehovah and change their ways............ 2024Yet they arrogantly call others false religion and Satan's organization. God’s people today do not claim to have perfect or complete knowledge of the truth. At times, they have made mistakes in doctrinal matters and in organizational direction. That should not surprise us. The Scriptures make it clear that accurate knowledge increases with time. (Col. 1:9, 10) Jehovah reveals the truth gradually, and we must be willing to wait patiently for the light of truth to get brighter. (Prov. 4:18) When those taking the lead realize that our understanding on a certain point of truth needs to be clarified, they do not hesitate to make the needed adjustments. While many denominations in Christendom make changes to please their congregations or to get closer to the world, the changes made by Jehovah’s organization are designed to draw us closer to God and to the pattern of worship established by Jesus. (Jas. 4:4) The adjustments we make are driven, not by modern trends or popular demands, but by a clearer understanding of the Scriptures. We love the truth!—1 Thess. 2:3, 4.What does the blunders of so called Jehovah's organization have to do with Christendom? While many denominations in Christendom make changes to please their congregations or to get closer to the world, the changes made by Jehovah’s organization are designed to draw us closer to God and to the pattern of worship established by Jesus.Basically just to continue the delusion that they are the only true religion doing God's will. They even admit Christendom carry out changes. ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MightySparrow: 2:43am On Sep 06, 2024*. Modified: 12:11pm On Sep 08, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:But you once responded to my post that no ex -jws can ever attend any other church. Where do they go after leaving the halls? |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:25pm On Sep 07, 2024 |
And the same is true of all persons who submit to any human religious authority as their supreme arbiter of right and wrong. If they choose to allow that authority to decide for them, speak for them, think for them, then any alternative argument or evidence advanced has no hope of a fair hearing, for “against authority there is no defence.” The authority has no need to respond, no need to refute, or even to consider the evidence presented; it simply condemns. This is, I believe, the basic issue, and unless it is first understood, little else can be understood. At least that has proved to be the case in my own experience. Men can make no greater claim to authority than to claim to speak for God—even more than that—to claim to be his sole channel of communication to all mankind. To occupy such a position would be an awesome responsibility indeed, and one that should logically call for the greatest of humility on the part of Imperfect humans if they were in fact assigned to fill it. |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:27pm On Sep 07, 2024 |
MightySparrow:It is just to cure his delusion that after his religious organization none his better out there ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:32pm On Sep 07, 2024*. Modified: 10:48am On Sep 08, 2024 |
A fitting analogy might be that of a slave sent forth by a king to deliver a proclamation. If impressed with his own importance, lacking humility, the messenger might feel free to add to the message or make adjustments, while nonetheless insisting that all hearers should accept whatever he presented as a bona fide royal order. If people questioned him on certain points, he might become resentful, seek to awe them with his royal backing in order to override any doubts about the authenticity of his statements. By contrast, a truly humble messenger would scrupulously avoid any alteration of what came from the royal source. He would not become resentful if asked for proof of full authenticity for what he said, nor would he criticize if some took steps to confirm that the message he presented was delivered just as given, free from embroidery or change. Rather than decry such investigation as an abusive lack of respect for himself (the mere slave), he would accept it, even welcome it, as evidence of the inquirer’s concern and deep respect for the will of his master, the Sovereign. Governing Body trust us completely and absolutely while altering the message from Jehovah. When questioned about the alterations and additions, they hammer their authority down. ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 10:51am On Sep 10, 2024 |
Assumptions and speculation that characterise the religious organization How many will join Satan? The number of those who rebel are “as the sand of the sea.” This expression does not necessarily mean that a large percentage of mankind will rebel. How do we know? Consider the promise made to Abraham. Jehovah said that Abraham’s offspring would become like “the grains of sand on the seashore.” (Gen. 22:17, 18) Yet, the number who made up his offspring ended up being 144,001 individuals. (Gal. 3:16, 29) That figure, while significant, is only a fraction of the total number of mankind. Similarly, the number who join Satan may be significant, but it will not be overwhelming. The rebels will pose no great threat to Jehovah’s loyal servants. Where did the Bible say the heirs of those that are offspring of Abraham is 144,001 in numbers? ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:59pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
paxonel:Highlighted confirmed! “But before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name." Luke 21:12 May JEHOVAH bẹ praised! Matthew 5:11-12 ![]()
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| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:15pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MiddleDimension:Go to Jerusalem and speak with Judaists about Jesus of Nazareth and first century his disciples, you go defend tire as accusations will be coming from all sides against Jesus and his first century Jewish disciples. • His mother lied, she was sleeping around. • His father wanted to use him to make fame. • He was a lazy man. • He was gay with his disciples. • He slept with Mary Magdalene, had a son. • His disciples stole his body. • His disciples were lying all about Jerusalem. • His disciples turned against Mosaic laws. Go and speak with them, you will have many things to say in defense of the world's most wonderful counselor of all times but one thing is sure: you can never ever find a better teacher than Jesus of Nazareth the greatest man who ever lived! ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 1:19pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Play victim and true followers of Christ game. Those thread you have been saying wonderful thread, great thread e.t.c those thread portray your religious organization as the most deceptive organization in the history of Christianity. ![]() Why are you responding to them here? Are those post meant for you? |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 1:21pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Go and respond to them elsewhere not here. Learn to live by what you preach. ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 1:26pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
achorladey:More manipulations...... Yet, the number who made up his offspring ended up being 144,001 individuals. (Gal. 3:16, 29)See the Bible verse referenced.... Galatians 3: Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. It* says, not: “And to seeds,” as in the case of many such, but as in the case of one: “And to your seed,” who is Christ. Moreover, if YOU belong to Christ, YOU are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise. From the above only 144,000 belong to Jesus Christ ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 1:45pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
achorladey:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁😁😁😁 |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 1:53pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
achorladey:Don't mind them. I remember when I started reading other Bible translations and saw this verse, I just realised Watchtower really played JWs wayo and deliberately deceived them for them to end up in Hell. That verse is saying if you belong to Christ , you are Abraham's seed and you are automatically heir to the Heavenly Kingdom. Watchtower Deceived JWs and say it is only 144,000. Very obvious Fraud they are playing here. Mumu JWs believed them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. They will be very surprised when Jesus is separating the sheep from the Goats because Jesus made it clear his sheep are going to heaven since Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God which completely destroys their Paradise Earth doctrine. Dem go explain explain explain give Jesus tire. No evidence. |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 2:02pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Courz:In fact that bold ehn. When you lay it before them that since Jesus called those that supported their Jesus brother doctrine SHEEP and will inherit the kingdom. You see them running helter-skelter to defend what cannot be defended. Their DOCTRINE manipulations Jesus brothers = anointed Christian = 144,000 = will inherit God's kingdom Jesus friends = non anointed Christians = great crowd of other sheep = SHEEP supporting Christ brothers = inherit God's kingdom Yet only 144,000 are heirs ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 2:21pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
achorladey:That their Jesus's Brothers being only the anointed is just a sign of desperation for control over JWs. They are just desperate for JWs to obey them as their leaders. And the Doctrine is very useless because the least of Jesus's Brothers are people who they call Low class or people who are disadvantaged like Orphans, Widows, needy people E t c. Jesus explained very well who the least of his brothers are. Are the Anointed the least of Jesus brothers? Did Jesus mention them? Some people will just imagine doctrines from their anus and JWS will just believe them like idiots. Me I don't understand how they read this their Bible sef. So, Apostle Paul said Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. And Watchtower didn't bother to ask themselves, Come o, this means No human life will be in the Kingdom which means this Kingdom of God is the Heavenly Kingdom. Only Spirit bodies will be there. Their Brain didn't register to say Ah, Our Paradise Earth doctrine is in the mud with this verse o. Let's trash it. 🤣🤣🤣 I think they know what they are doing. They are Satanists and they want JWs To go to the same destination they are going. |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 2:29pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Courz:They must put that control using their self given authority in place to lie and manipulate the people under them ![]() Always speculating and assuming things into the brains of their members as truth of God's words. |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 2:40pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Who make up this earthly administration? In Ezekiel’s vision, the one taking the lead in the city government was referred to as “the chieftain.” (Ezek. 45:7) He was an overseer among the people, but he was neither a priest nor a Levite. This chieftain makes us think particularly of congregation overseers today who are not spirit-anointed. These caring spiritual shepherds from among the “other sheep” are humble earthly servants of Christ’s heavenly government. (John 10:16) During the coming Millennium, Jesus will select and appoint “in all the earth” qualified elders, or “princes.” (Ps. 45:16) Under the direction of the heavenly Kingdom, they will care for the interests of God’s people during the Millennium.Their elders are referred to as CHIEFTAINS ; yet they don't have clergy class in their midst. The same elders are not spirit anointed Christians. ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 2:46pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
achorladey:I don't know how doing good to needy people, feeding them, clothing them translates to Obeying and supporting the anointed JWs. Very useless set of people. Does the Governing body look like Needy people? People that don't know what suffering is with their expensive suits, watches and Masonic rings. 😁😁😁 |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 2:52pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Courz:Laughable stuff. Some of them that are well to do even before becoming Jehovah’s witnesses and rising up the ladder to become governing body members |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 5:26pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
achorladey:Exactly. Like the two recent additional Governing body members and Tony Morris. |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 5:32pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Courz:No doubt |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 10:26pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Dangers of group think and Jehovah has an organization on earth that don't exist scripturally Regarding the much used phrase: “God doesn’t deal with individuals, only with his organization” there is an inspired scripture proving how God deals with men: 1. Job 34:29 "When He keeps quiet, who then can condemn? And when He hides His face, who then can behold Him, >>> That is, in regard to both nation and man. " So, God deals with “both nation and man”/ individuals and group of individuals/people/nation (his people)... ... while He may be "at peace" with a certain His servant , at the same time He may be "angered" over His nation , as a "whole" ... while He may be "at peace" with His "people" , He may manifest His anger over a certain "individual" who proves to be "law transgressor" |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 7:22pm On Sep 11, 2024*. Modified: 5:50am On Sep 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:But this is not the last post I mentioned you in. Why respond to this twice and not respond to the last one? |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Youareforgiven(m): 8:18pm On Sep 11, 2024 |
Courz:You are on the right path... Christ Jesus is our sole focus and him alone should we focus on. We should have dove eyes setting it upon Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for us. |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:58am On Sep 12, 2024 |
MiddleDimension:You wish to play hide and seek nah so continue since you're not interested in facing reality. I told you to come over to my own thread and ask any questions you have in mind but instead you choose to continue with Ex-jws. Why should any sane human continues to dwell on his past and say nothing about his present? I was once a Muslim and i practiced Islam for years but now i've found something of great value so if i've left Islam truly no intellectual will expect me to start talking relentlessly about what i trashed rather a wise person will be interested in what i just found. Do you expect enemies of someone to think or say anything nice about the person? Why not ask your friends to direct their undivided attention on speaking about the better performing group they're now worshiping with? Of course after leaving God's organization they can't say anything good about Jehovah's Witnesses yet they will never ever find a better performing group as a replacement for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION that i am assuring you. John 6:63-68 ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 6:03am On Sep 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:The last thread I mentioned you in is not this very one. it is this one: https://www.nairaland.com/8199240/god-loving-why-does-he/4#131783028 As for ''your thread'', you did not share with me the link instead, you went on one of my threads to reply to me. |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:27am On Sep 12, 2024 |
MiddleDimension:https://www.nairaland.com/6589422/study-bible-jehovahs-witnesses Here you have it and you can also click on my profile name to check all my threads to drop your comments. Henceforth i will no longer respond to you here. May you have PEACE! ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 7:56am On Sep 12, 2024*. Modified: 8:19am On Sep 12, 2024 |
MiddleDimension:That's how the liar and manipulator carry out his operation. He can even choose to blackmail you on a different thread having nothing to do with or what you stated here. You can imagine he choose to comeback to this thread and quote that particular post after already engaging you on your thread. ![]() The tactics is always to go after people they see as prey repeatedly even when those people give them tough time initially. As long as they tag them as prey,they feel when they hide for certain time then attack again will prove successful ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:16am On Sep 12, 2024 |
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| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:21am On Sep 12, 2024*. Modified: 10:54am On Sep 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: You wish to play hide and seek nah so continue since you're not interested in facing reality.That's the liar and manipulator lying after engaging the same person on the other thread he created . I told you to come over to my own thread and ask any questions you have in mind but instead you choose to continue with Ex-jws.Running helter-skelter as usual. What stopped the discussion on his own thread? Why should any sane human continues to dwell on his past and say nothing about his present?The insanities and madness peddling of your brains. Jehovah's Witnesses hanged their relevance of being true Christians on the past. That's why they can debate trinity doctrine that is far more stable than their religious doctrine as evidence that they are true Christians . When the past don't dance to madness and insanities peddling of your brains you run away from it. When it does you run back to it. That's why your GODS of men are always looking to paint those they call christendom and apostates which is part of their past bad to be relevant ![]() I was once a Muslim and i practiced Islam for years but now i've found something of great value so if i've left Islam truly no intellectual will expect me to start talking relentlessly about what i trashed rather a wise person will be interested in what i just found.What you just found have consequences and relationship with past add it to your lies and manipulations filled brains. Your intelligence is nowhere to be seen. Do you expect enemies of someone to think or say anything nice about the person?Enemies of someone do say nice things about the person. That's a reality and part of the reality why they are enemies. Jesus said Satan started in the truth, that's nice saying about his enemy. Why not ask your friends to direct their undivided attention on speaking about the better performing group they're now worshiping with?When the thread was created your madness and insanities peddling brains was excited to divert people's attention to it. Now that they expose the lies and manipulations packed into your brains bitterness set in. That group think packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains even went as far as saying those who bear Christians don't belong to Jesus Christ. Of course after leaving God's organization they can't say anything good about Jehovah's WitnessesThe day I referenced your religious publications regarding a topic your madness and insanities peddling brains did not see it as something good. What a sorry sad situation ![]() yet they will never ever find a better performing group as a replacement for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION that i am assuring you. John 6:63-68They don't need a group that are controlled by the Devil, sin like others and filled with hypocrites and fornicating to enjoy themselves based on your words as better performing performance group. ![]() |
| Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:25am On Sep 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Your madness and insanities peddling brains decided to quote him again hoping he will buy into your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains after you engaged him on his thread. He didn't force you to quote him again. Your restlessness made you quote him on the thread you should completely avoid. Here you have it and you can also click on my profile name to check all my threads to drop your comments.Tactics to keep your restlessness going Henceforth i will no longer respond to you here.He didn't ask you to in the first place May you have PEACE! :He is not Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses that you need to add (peace be upon them. PUBT) ![]() |
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