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Broveens42:
Expecting a message from chiokike is not different from Nollywood movies where a native doctor hits his gong or throws some cowries to hear a message which is actually a misrepresentation. Any philosophy that allows a god speak for you is actually cultural and shouldn't be used universally. So what igbos view in chiokikeabiama is not in expectation of any message, charge, commission, judgement etc but in acknowledgment.

That is what makes JEHOVAH the Abrahamic God unique, as the true God and Creator of all things He speaks and makes sure he fulfils whatever He promises {Isaiah 55:10-11} unlike all other Gods that worshipers don't really know their purpose.

So don't compare a living God with dead gods who can't do anything! Psalms 115:4-8

Jesus commanded his disciples to go to their neighborhood preaching and teaching from house to house {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 20:20} about the only solution to mankind's problems! Matthew 6:10

So the translation that's compelling imperfect humans to go out doing the work Jesus assigned is the best translation! Matthew 7:24-27

MaxInDHouse:
Each time a scroll is discovered and each time it becomes necessary to revise the words used is reconsidered with context in mind.
So we are always on the move not biased like trying to portray ourselves as perfect.
We humbly admit that there is always a room for improvement in whatever we do.

Read the OP and meditate about the article instead of anxious to complain!

MaxInDHouse:
People like you are promoting ATHEISM unknowingly because if each of you stands as his or her own teacher deceiving yourselves that [b][/b]God's holy spirit [b][/b]is teaching each one separately that's how contradictions is celebrated in the name of denominations whereas the teacher prayed for all his disciples to have the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Today you people have over 40,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of one teacher ọmọ that is absurd! 1Corinthians 14:33

So go ahead and practice what you want it's not welcome in the gathering of God's people where we promote orderliness! 1Corinthians 14:40

Are you really sure you wrote this.... In your NWO Bible you people don't recognize the Holy Spirit o.

Youareforgiven:
Are you really sure you wrote this.... In your NWO Bible you people don't recognize the Holy Spirit o.

According to God's only begotten Son (Jesus) what is the work Holy Spirit will enable people practicing pure worship to do successfully? Act 1:8

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's only begotten Son (Jesus) what is the work Holy Spirit will enable people practicing pure worship to do successfully? Act 1:8

You people always refer to the Holy Spirit as it, or active force. Are you sure you are JWs?

Youareforgiven:
You people always refer to the Holy Spirit as it, or active force. Are you sure you are JWs?

You dodged the important question and start asking another question.


Why not answer the question i asked regarding Jesus' own words about the work of God's Holy Spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
You dodged the important question and start asking another question.


Why not answer the question i asked regarding Jesus' own words about the work of God's Holy Spirit?

✝ John 16:13

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come."
✝ John 15:26

"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: "

Now is the Holy Spirit an active force or an it, base on His mission description by Jesus Christ?

Youareforgiven:
✝ John 16:13

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come."
✝ John 15:26

"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: "

Now is the Holy Spirit an active force or an it, base on His mission description by Jesus Christ?

Guy, i'm not a kid so if you're here to argue back and forth it's better you forget it and continue dancing around with your friends.

Why not answer the question i asked you first?

According to God's only begotten Son (Jesus) what is the work Holy Spirit will enable people practicing pure worship to do successfully? Act 1:8

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's only begotten Son (Jesus) what is the work Holy Spirit will enable people practicing pure worship to do successfully? Act 1:8

✝ Acts 1:8

"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

If I may ask, Jesus said they shall be witnesses unto me(Jesus Christ), not witnesses unto Jehovah. Jesus Christ never asked them to be witnesses for Jehovah. So who are guys witnessing for again?

Youareforgiven:
✝ Acts 1:8

"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

If I may ask, Jesus said they shall be witnesses unto me(Jesus Christ), not witnesses unto Jehovah. Jesus Christ never asked them to be witnesses for Jehovah. So who are guys witnessing for again?

So Jesus said the Holy Spirit will empower his disciples to become his WITNESSES.

Then what do you understand by the word "WITNESS or WITNESSES"?

MaxInDHouse:
So Jesus said the Holy Spirit will empower his disciples to become his WITNESSES.

Then what do you understand by the word "WITNESS or WITNESSES"?

Please be my guess... Tell me

Youareforgiven:
Please be my guess... Tell me

Well a witness according to the dictionary is someone who is ready to answer for the accused whatever questions is directed to the accused regarding the case at hand the witness must be fully prepared to answer!

Because of this Jesus of Nazareth warned his disciples that since he is Christ the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} they must be peaceable with all people no matter what happens {Luke 6:27-28} they must love their neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} and have love among themselves just as he loves them! John 13:34-35

So whenever people are fighting and killing their neighbors {Revelations 6:3-4} there is no justification for the WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace to be part of such killings they must remain neutral! John 17:14-16

Now back to your question:

If any group claims they are WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace yet their members are still fighting and killing their neighbors including their own fellow religionists due to politics or racism. Are they truly WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace?

For your information Isaiah prophesied that the Christ will be called "Emmanuel" {Isaiah 7:14} not Jesus but then why did Jesus' friends agreed that Jesus is the person Isaiah talked about in his prophecy?
Well it's because Jesus fulfilled what the scriptures foretold about the Christ when he formed a group of peace loving worshipers in the first century, this little group will go about from house to house until all the nations hear of the counsel from the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and during the endtime they will gather all peace loving people globally under one umbrella! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So if you're expecting those fulfilling that prophecy to be called "Jesus' Witnesses" before you believe they're the ones Jesus was talking about then you should think about what could have happened to you if you lived in the first century Jewish community hearing one young carpenter claiming he is the Christ but instead of bearing the name "Emmanuel" he was called "Jesus"

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
Well a witness according to the dictionary is someone who is ready to answer for the accused whatever questions is directed to the accused regarding the case at hand the witness must be fully prepared to answer!

Because of this Jesus of Nazareth warned his disciples that since he is Christ the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} they must be peaceable with all people no matter what happens {Luke 6:27-28} they must love their neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} and have love among themselves just as he loves them! John 13:34-35

So whenever people are fighting and killing their neighbors {Revelations 6:3-4} there is no justification for the WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace to be part of such killings they must remain neutral! John 17:14-16

Now back to your question:

If any group claims they are WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace yet their members are still fighting and killing their neighbors including their own fellow religionists due to politics or racism. Are they truly WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace?

For your information Isaiah prophesied that the Christ will be called "Emmanuel" {Isaiah 7:14} not Jesus but then why did Jesus' friends agreed that Jesus is the person Isaiah talked about in his prophecy?
Well it's because Jesus fulfilled what the scriptures foretold about the Christ when he formed a group of peace loving worshipers in the first century, this little group will go about from house to house until all the nations hear of the counsel from the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and during the endtime they will gather all peace loving people globally under one umbrella! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So if you're expecting those fulfilling that prophecy to be called "Jesus' Witnesses" before you believe they're the ones Jesus was talking about then you should think about what could have happened to you if you lived in the first century Jewish community hearing one young carpenter claiming he is the Christ but instead of bearing the name "Emmanuel" he was called "Jesus"

May you have PEACE!

Cocky antichrist... I knew go on a rant talking about unity. Unity of demons and deceivers, united against Christ Jesus and his glory and honor.

✝ Acts 4:12

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

This is what Christ Jesus was talking about when he said, they will be witnesses of Him.

There is no other name given among men for salvation not even the name Jehovah/Yahweh/Elohim. Christ Jesus is the only appointed and chosen name in which men can be saved.
✝ Acts 16:31

"And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."



This are all examples of what Jesus meant in Acts 1:8. Bearing witness that He is __✝ John 14:6

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Paul didn't tell this beautiful soul to believe in Jehovah or believe in Yahweh for them to be saved but believe in Him(Jesus Christ), who is the live giver and sustainer. Paul, Peter, John and James didn't go about telling people about Jehovah or Yahweh, but about Jesus and his sacrifice and his resurrection from the dead.

I don't care if the unity and peace among yourselves is flowing like a river... If Christ Jesus is not glorified and exalted in your midst, the unity is a unity and peace of a grave yard.

Youareforgiven:
I don't care if the unity and peace among yourselves is flowing like a river... If Christ Jesus is not glorified and exalted in your midst, the unity is a unity and peace of a grave yard.

Well Jesus himself made it clear that the only evidence of his presence and Holy Spirit in any religion is PEACE among wordhipers {John 14:26-27} where the Prince of Peace assemble with wordhipers {Matthew 18:20} PEACE should flow, it's when believers are doing all things orderly that the law of the Christ could be evident among them as his WITNESSES but in the case where there is no peace it simply means there is LAWLESSNESS (INIQUITY) therefore such form of worship no matter what you call it is not RECOGNIZED by Christ Jesus! Matthew 7:21-23

May you have PEACE!

It was "Emmanuel" {Isaiah 7:14} the Jews were expecting as Christ not the man named "Jesus" {Luke 1:31} but why did Jesus' friends in the first century believe that he is the Christ when his name is not Emmanuel?

MaxInDHouse:
It was "Emmanuel" {Isaiah 7:14} the Jews were expecting as Christ not the man named "Jesus" {Luke 1:31} but why did Jesus' friends in the first century believe that he is the Christ when his name is not Emmanuel?

Immanuel is Isaiah's son. That much is clear. It was a sign for king Ahaz that his kingdom will stand the threat of Syria and the northern kingdom.

When God decides to send his Messiah, the whole world will know, he will be well versed in the Torah, and the world will enjoy peace as men will hammer their swords into ploughshares..no oppression of any kind....we all know God's Messiah has not come, we are waiting...you and your lots can go on and reverence the idol(Jesus) created for you by the Romans...we will sit and wait..

sonmvayina:
Immanuel is Isaiah's son. That much is clear. It was a sign for king Ahaz that his kingdom will stand the threat of Syria and the northern kingdom. When God decides to send his Messiah, the whole world will know, he will be well versed in the Torah, and the world will enjoy peace as men will hammer their swords into ploughshares..no oppression of any kind....we all know God's Messiah has not come, we are waiting...you and your lots can go on and reverence the idol(Jesus) created for you by the Romans...we will sit and wait..

Thanks for your contribution!

The Messiah is a son of David...

The church fathers spent the early part of their beginning looking for passages in the Tanakh and trying to pass them off as being fulfilled by their hero...

God the creator still remain the only saviour of man. The Messiah is a king appointed by God. And will be anointed with the special oil ....to the service of God. He is not a demi God. He is not coming to die for sins. Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer...

sonmvayina:
The Messiah is a son of David...
The church fathers spent the early part of their beginning looking for passages in the Tanakh and trying to pass them off as being fulfilled by their hero... God the creator still remain the only saviour of man. The Messiah is a king appointed by God. And will be anointed with the special oil ....to the service of God. He is not a demi God. He is not coming to die for sins. Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer...

It's like you don't get it.

I'm not interested in whatever you want to type so take it elsewhere!

MaxInDHouse:
It's like you don't get it.

I'm not interested in whatever you want to type so take it elsewhere!

Because it destroys your illusions...

MaxInDHouse:
Well Jesus himself made it clear that the only evidence of his presence and Holy Spirit in any religion is PEACE among wordhipers {John 14:26-27} where the Prince of Peace assemble with wordhipers {Matthew 18:20} PEACE should flow, it's when believers are doing all things orderly that the law of the Christ could be evident among them as his WITNESSES but in the case where there is no peace it simply means there is LAWLESSNESS (INIQUITY) therefore such form of worship no matter what you call it is not RECOGNIZED by Christ Jesus! Matthew 7:21-23

May you have PEACE!

Matt 18:20✝ Matthew 18:20

"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Quoting scriptures that you don't practice. Do you gather in Jesus Christ name or in Jehovah's name? Peace of a grave yard
✝ Jeremiah 6:14

"They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace."

Youareforgiven:
Do you gather in Jesus Christ name or in Jehovah's name?

“I have spoken these things to you while I am still with you. But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. I leave you PEACE; I give you my PEACE. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear" John 14:25-27

If you disregard his words your calling his name in vain won't save you! Matthew 7:21-23

sonmvayina:
Because it destroys your illusions...

Your PERSONAL opinion!

MaxInDHouse:
Your PERSONAL opinion!

Fact....and you know it.
But because you want to belong to a group, you suspended your brain to believe absurdities...

sonmvayina:
Fact....and you know it.
But because you want to belong to a group, you suspended your brain to believe absurdities...

You have come back with your insults shey?

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that if you can't present any group of people holding the same line of thought as you do i can't join you in whatever you think you know?

Ọmọ if you don't get it i will make it simple for you, your facts remain personal like that of a madman in your street who claims he is the only sane individual in the world.

MaxInDHouse:
“I have spoken these things to you while I am still with you. But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. I leave you PEACE; I give you my PEACE. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear" John 14:25-27

If you disregard his words your calling his name in vain won't save you! Matthew 7:21-23

You can't have His peace, neither do you know His peace, neither can you enjoy it, because you don't believe in Him. You don't believe in His name. What you have is the peace of your GB.

MaxInDHouse:
You have come back with your insults shey?

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that if you can't present any group of people holding the same line of thought as you do i can't join you in whatever you think you know?

Ọmọ if you don't get it i will make it simple for you, your facts remain personal like that of a madman in your street who claims he is the only sane individual in the world.

Group??

That sounds like a cult...I don't want to be in one. I want to live free and fulfilled like my creator intended...by following his Torah.(Laws).
It is better to walk alone by obeying the laws of the creator rather be part of a performing group that worships an idol...

Choose right.

Youareforgiven:
What you have is the peace of your GB.

Wow!
YES! They are his brothers that i need to know {Matthew 25:40} in order to know the peace that permeates among all the children of God globally! Matthew 5:14-16

When his disciples were worried about us that will live in the last days they asked him where those representing Jesus will be found so that faithful ones like me could IDENTIFY them.

Jesus responded:

“Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together" Luke 17:37

So my friend go and worship anywhere you like faithful individuals with sharp spiritual eyes like that of EAGLES have gathered round the Governing BODY!

sonmvayina:
I don't want to be in one.

That's the only reason why i have faith so you can see that you and i aren't of the same stuff!

MaxInDHouse:
That's the only reason why i have faith so you can see that you and i aren't of the same stuff!

You follow a man made ideology...meant to deceive...

I don't want to be part of it...

sonmvayina:
I don't want to be part of it...

Great!
So do what pleases you!