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Gabrielshow24:
You are confused. A nation divided against itself cannot prosper. No nation spreads propaganda that goes against it. Even Nigeria is a simple example how many people have been tracked and jailed who spoke up against the government? You saying Romans invented Jesus to enslave the Jews which later enslaved them to(permit to say) as they were the first empire to declare Christianity has its religion.

Gabrielshow24:
You are confused. A nation divided against itself cannot prosper. No nation spreads propaganda that goes against it. Even Nigeria is a simple example how many people have been tracked and jailed who spoke up against the government? You saying Romans invented Jesus to enslave the Jews which later enslaved them to(permit to say) as they were the first empire to declare Christianity has its religion.

MindHacker9009:
Your problem is that you lack comprehension and the ability to reason critically. That's why you don't know the meaning of FUNDAMENTAL questions and you find sensible explanations too long for you to comprehend and you feel it's like your rambling commentary.

Read this from a former chief of Russian space agency Roscosmos about the moon landing:A former chief of Russian space agency Roscosmos has voiced doubt over the authenticity of the 1969 Apollo 11 Moon landing.“About 10 years ago, when I worked in the government, I sent an official request to Roscosmos to provide me with documentary evidence of the Americans' stay on the moon,” Dmitry Rogozin said in a statement on Telegram on Sunday.
Rogozin said that he was “embarrassed” about the return of Soviet cosmonauts from space expeditions barely able to stand on their feet and undergoing long recoveries, while US astronauts crawled out of their lunar ships, in his words, “like cucumbers from the garden.”
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/russia-s-former-space-chief-doubts-us-landing-on-moon/2892170

These Jewish Messiahs were not old men with flowing white beards when went into battle and defeated the enemies of Israel. This shows you have nothing sensible to say except your usual garbage.

Joshua: Likely in his 40s during his first battle against the Amalekites.
David: Likely in his late teens when he fought Goliath.
Samson: Likely in his 20s or early 30s during his early acts against the Philistines.

DaddyCoool:
See STUPIDITY!
Russia was in COLD WAR with US. Never mind the "cold" it was virtually war. And anything is fair in war. You don't think USSR would be jumping up and down like Evander Holyfield after Tyson bit his ear if they detect ANY iota of cheating by US? And US KNEW it too and dare not try any nonsense. Ten years later you bury your head in YouTube and start quoting some fool!

Those people were not invented! Nobody would invent a messiah for Jews to keep them from attacking Rome and invent a 30 year old guy, or invent the Jesus we have in OT. Simply impossible. He said he came to die for sins of the world NOT to help Jews with Rome (which would have made sense). He said his kingdom was not of this world (you invent a messiah for Jews and make him say that!). He said powerful Rome can't keep him dead - he'd rise on the 3rd day (which he did). He went about calling Jewish leaders hypocrites and whitened sepulcher - the same Jews you're trying to ingratiate. He said Rome would destroy Jerusalem and not a stone would be left on top another, which happened on schedule (and you want Jews to clap for him). He said God didn't need Israel, that He can raise descendants foe Abraham even from stone!

MindHacker9009:
You are the one showing your STUPIDITY.

DaddyCoool:
FUNDAMENTAL questions,my friend, ask fundamental questions. And insist they answer them - not gloss over them and bury DaddyCoool in details and minutae!

MindHacker9009:
Your mind is still that of a baby that's why you cannot comprehend my comments and itelligent questions.

MindHacker9009:
You are the one showing your STUPIDITY.

FxMasterz:
Does a King not send his sons and servants on errands? Why can't Jesus send us? We are sons and are also messengers. Angels are only MESSENGERS. Not sons.

Angels are spirits and can never become flesh. Only God and man can put on flesh. Man can exist in both states but not angels. That itself is not a superiority.

Hey, I'm not talking about superiority here. You're misunderstanding. I'm only talking about what God made us for. I'm not even saying we're superior to angels. Please leave the matter of superiority alone. I never said that.

Superiority in heaven is not measured the same way we measure it on earth. Man was a high being. We fell, and Christ came to restore us. Today, for us who are in Christ "We are seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus " Ephesians 2:6-7.

At the end of time, we our position is restored, we would be like Christ and reign with Christ. Think about it.

Lucifyre:
Already told you. You can argue all you want, what's consensus fact is fact no matter what you write, except you want to write a thesis for peer review to change the current consensus of biblical scholarship, but i seriously doubt that, seeing as you can't even write your own comments without shamelessly ripping off and copy pasting chatgpt. It's akin to telling a flat earther the earth is spherical, no point(pun intended😅).

DaddyCoool:
Below is who Jews currently believe is their Messiah. See how he looks? Not some 30 year old guy!

MindHacker9009:
Here is the current Messiah in Israel and for your information his is only 36 years old



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg9_MM_U2EI

DaddyCoool:
YouTube messiah!
Google latest Jewish messiahs and see if you will see this guy's name. The first and only mordern name you'll see is the old man I posted.

Even so, this guy is 36 and alive, NOT 30 and dead at 33, in the interim demystfying Jewish leaders and doing nothing to help with Rome. You must be CRAZY to invent such a messiah for Jews!

MindHacker9009:
You are the one that is very VERY VERY CRAZY and still belongs to the stone age.

1. Google bought YouTube from it's founder for about five billion dollars, because of it's immense potentials for providing real-time or recorded information to anyone around the globe.

2. YouTube in the developed countries is now the go to place to watch events as they happen live or later. Presenting information and videos to go with it is much more easier, quicker and can be done immediately than creating a website that will take ages and might never come up in the first one thousand pages of a Google search.

Because you are VERY CRAZY that's why you think everyone are stuck and should reason like you in your stone age shithole cave.

DaddyCoool:
Once again, get this into your skull because it is very easy to miss: 90% of YouTube is MISINFORMATION!
ANYBODY can post any nonsense on YouTube and they do!
That's where people go to post nonsense and make it very believable with deceptive logic combined with manipulated video clips!

See below, Paul almost convincing a Roman king to believe in the Jesus he made up!

MindHacker9009:
Get this into your tick stone-age skull that 100% of the half god/half man invented Jesus chrst/craft is MISINFORMATION anywhere you find such be it on YouTube, Google, books and in the Roman empire Bible. The real Jesuses anytime in history were born of a man and a woman.

Now you can crawl back into your stone age shithole cave where you belong.

DaddyCoool:
*thick NOT tick😁

Now back to your skull. Now that you’ve gotten my teachings on moon landing and YouTube, I taught you to always ask FUNDAMENTAL questions. Go to any of the other stories and read them. See if they're supported by a 1000's years Torah (that Jews know very well - so saying Rome destroyed it is YouTube nonsense), see if there are some powerful words from the person, then Christ's brothers that also wrote, John the Baptist, Elizabeth, the apostles who all wrote, St. Paul, Turin shroud that can't be replicated, dead sea Scrolls, etc. Instead you'd have a flat story by some bad writer. Read the NT and see if there's any literature that comes alive like it and obviously written by different authors over a period of time.

Finally, speaking of fundamental questions, if you were making up a story to fool Jews WHY would all the parts not agree? Why would there be inconsistencies? Why won't there be drawings depicting who and what you're talking about? Why won't you make sure it gets in the hands of leading jews, etc

Here's that my post again:

But the important question (which you dodged because you know you're talking nonsense) is, why would Rome let a Christ they invented transcend their own gods? They no longer believed the sun was god, nor Zeus, nor the emperor. Not only that, the emperor was now a lowly sinner headed to hell.
Also, this sinless Christ they invented was not crucified by their enemies but by they themselves! Not only that, all Christ-related stories put their country and leaders in bad light - not a single positive image of Rome in a story they invented! Those Romans must have really suddenly gone bananas😅!

DaddyCoool:
I don't think you and "intelligent questions" go together. Elon Musk already answered all the questions about moon landing. Google it. He knows more than your YouTube nut, and he KNOWS for sure US went to the moon!

MindHacker9009:
Good you have even admitted to the fact that your stone-age skull is THICK and not tick😅!

Elon Musk is getting billions of dollars from NASA, so for you to believe him saying the moon landing was true shows that your THICK stone-age skull is empty so it can accept any garbage.
I posted this for you to read before it's from the former Chief of Russian space agency.
Read this from a former chief of Russian space agency Roscosmos about the moon landing: A former chief of Russian space agency Roscosmos has voiced doubt over the authenticity of the 1969 Apollo 11 Moon landing. “About 10 years ago, when I worked in the government, I sent an official request to Roscosmos to provide me with documentary evidence of the Americans' stay on the moon,” Dmitry Rogozin said in a statement on Telegram on Sunday.
Rogozin said that he was “embarrassed” about the return of Soviet cosmonauts from space expeditions barely able to stand on their feet and undergoing long recoveries, while US astronauts crawled out of their lunar ships, in his words, “like cucumbers from the garden.”
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/russia-s-former-space-chief-doubts-us-landing-on-moon/2892170

Now to your invented Jesus christ/craft: The real Jesuses in the first century were normal people born of a man and a woman and not your Jesus craft born of a god that mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself as half man/half god, that offered himself on the cross as a sacrifice to himself, then had a fake resurrection and a fake ascension and for two thousand years now he could not fake his second coming because that's too much for him to fake. All he can do now is to sneak out of the right hand of his father or himself, to appear three hundred years later to a pagan Roman emperor by showing him a sign in the sky to help him win his civil war that made the emperor to unify the Roman empire, yet the invented Jesus craft did nothing to help his own people when the same Rome destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple he called his father's house and Rome took all his people that survived the destruction of Jerusalem away as slaves to Rome.

There is no Jesus christ in the dead sea Scrolls. The religious sect in the dead sea Scrolls were the Essenes, which Josephus mentioned as one of the three religions in Israel during that time.

I have already given you the reasons why the Roman empire invented your Jesus christ, but I will give you the reasons again with more explanation, but I'm sure your THICK stone-age skull will not accept it as it's not the same as the garbage it's filled with.
The reason was because the Roman empire wanted to unify all their various religions in the Roman empire under one roof in order to unify the kingdom which was about to crumble due to various religions in the Roman empire of which Israel/Judea was part of at the time. So they had to merge their Roman pagan belief of their gods mating with their women to produce their emperors and the Jewish God and as the Jews were expecting a Messiah to come and restore the nation of Israel. This was the reason they invented a peaceful messiah that was pro Rome but was predicting the destruction of his fathers house in Jerusalem which was what the Romans were planning at the time and they carried it out in seventy AD as predicted by the messiah they invented.

What's the next garbage from your THICK stone-age skull?

DaddyCoool:
What a ridiculous conspiracy KUKU!!😅

If nothing else, this your still going on about the moon landing tells me you're beyond redemption and their is no pont in continuing to teach you. Even if Christ himself came down you'd point him to a YouTube video that proves he doesn't exist!😆 (Same way you keep citing a fool Russian Nationalist)

You think US went to the moon only once? US went to the moon 6 times and each time left artifacts that can still be SEEN there today (including American flags, footprints, and human feces) due to lack of atmosphere on the moon (see below)

If you're a conspiracy nut about that why won't you be conspiracy kuku about something as obvious as that Romans couldn't have invented the Jesus of the Bible.

Conclusion: you're too far gone and beyond redemption. Bye bye

MindHacker9009:
Hope you know who Bill Clinton is, here is what he had to say about the moon landing in his biography after his eight years in the White House of the United States:

Bill Clinton's CRYPTIC Statement About The Apollo Moon Landing - Joe Rogan & Annie Jacobsen
"he was saying that he was working I
think he was work doing construction in
1969 and showed up for work see if we
could find the quotes so I don't
paraphrase it I think it's page
241 of Bill Clinton's my life I might
have the page wrong um so
in this scenario he's talking to this
Carpenter and he's telling this
Carpenter isn't it crazy they landed on
the moon and the carpenter
says something to the sound of I don't
believe anything those television
Fellers say and he goes I think they can
fake anything somewhere along that line
and he goes before he goes back then I
thought that guy was a crank he goes but
after my 8 years in the white house I
started thinking maybe he's ahead of his
time now just imagine saying
that about the biggest achievement in
human history Landing another human
being on the surface of a moon another
planet essentially one quarter the size
of our planet 250 something thousand
miles away and he's saying maybe this
guy who thought it was fake is ahead of
his time that's not something you accidentally
say that's not something you frivolously
write down and just add it to your book."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ9gj7DCYz8

You still believing the moon landing is not fake shows you are even a KUKU in you stone age cave.

MindHacker9009:
Hope you know who Bill Clinton is, here is what he had to say about the moon landing in his biography after his eight years in the White House of the United States:

Gabrielshow24:
Even the bible records of "some that have encountered Angels unaware", the angels sent to lot; what form do you think they assumed? Don't be childish

sonmvayina:
Like I said earlier in one of my post, Christianity started as the worship of serapis in Egypt much earlier . Say like 430 BCE. It rose to become the predominant religion in Egypt and in Greece. Because it was an idea introduced by Ptolemy 1.
The Romans where predominantly mithraisic...
When the empire was expanding and Constantine needed a single religion for the empire to stop all the wars, the delegates at Nicea had to come up with one. They had to choose between mithraism and Christianity (worship of serapis). They voted to go with Christianity and went ahead to fine tune the creed of the religion. Most of the delegates there where of Greek origin, little wonder.
The serapis was the Christ up until the council of chalcedon.
I think this is when the gospel as we have it now started taking shape.
The priest where throlling round the Jewish scriptures looking for passages they can pass off as being a messianic prophesies just to deceive....

So the bottom line is still that the Jesus that is brought forward is still an invention...and never existed in history.

Moreover, the Messiah the Jews where expecting is a mortal man, not a demi God, from the line of David. He would be a king . He is not coming to die for sins as God has already provided a solution to the problem of sin.(See 2nd chronicles 7:14)

Gabrielshow24:
I beg to differ. A simple example are newborn babies; they are naked but they do not know and in fact are not ashamed which portrays innocence. This is just a clever way to explain a simple narrative with exuberance and splendour, as usual of men to emphasis their importance(pride)

Am sure Moses was not blind, he hath seen Angels covered with Glory; he even saw the glory of God hence he would have known if man was covered by His Glory or not and would have reported it. Leave it as it is, they were naked- simple

MindHacker9009:
Your consensus' fiction are from those helping to cover up the invention of your Jesus christ. The real Jesuses in the first century were normal people born of a man and a woman and not your Jesus craft born of a god that mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself as half man/half god, that offered himself on the cross as a sacrifice to himself, then had a fake resurrection and a fake ascension and for two thousand years now he could not fake his second coming because that's too much for him to fake. All he can do now is to sneak out of the right hand of his father or himself, to appear three hundred years later to a pagan Roman emperor by showing him a sign in the sky to help him win his civil war that made the emperor to unify the Roman empire, yet the invented Jesus craft did nothing to help his own people when the same Rome destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple he called his father's house and Rome took all his people that survived the destruction of Jerusalem away as slaves to Rome.
For you to believe such nonsense shows you still have the mind of a baby.

For your information ChatGPT is a very powerful tool that provides information, answers questions, and assists with complex tasks and can solve complex problems. I know you still belong to the stone age so to you using ChatGPT to quickly gather information that would have taken years to do makes you ashamed, when it would be very expensive to travel to libraries and other information centres around the globe, but believing the nonsense that a god mated with another man's wife and produced himself and offered himself to himself on the cross makes sense to you.
This shows I 've been discussing with someone who still has the mind of a baby.

Lucifyre:
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Lucifyre:
Man, I really wanted to remain courteous and didn't want to be condescending, even though from the onset it was glaringly obvious I was talking to someone with nothing but polluted air between his ears. So, let's have at it. It's funny you should say "my Jesus," because, one, I'm not even a Christian, and two, I'm not even a theist—just to show how much you're living proof that it’s possible to live without a brain. Because if you had one, you wouldn't have just made moronic assumptions like a rabid raccoon.

Like I said, if you'd like,, scream into the abyss, it wouldn't change what is a consensus fact decided upon by scholars whose feet you can't even lick. Do you even know what a fact or consensus is, you illiterate Bleep, or do you need to ask ChatGPT? 😅 If I were as dim-witted as you, I would quickly accept the claim that the historical Jesus didn't exist, as it supports my position of being irreligious and all, but nah, that's for room-temperature IQ morons like you who can't set bias aside. "Data over Dogma." I follow the evidence to come to a conclusion, even if it contradicts my original stance—simple common sense, which unfortunately forever eludes you. It's ironic you ridicule Christians because of their belief in Jesus when your own nonsense beliefs are just as deluded, but instead, more archaic and barbaric—supporting genocide, infanticide, rape, patricide, misogyny, sexual assault, discrimination, racism, hypocrisy, and whatnot from the insecure tyrant YHVH.

As far as I'm concerned, all your Abrahamic religions are major horse turd 😅, but that doesn't change the fact about the historical Jesus. At least you put your only two brain cells to work to manage to string words into sentences instead of shamelessly ripping off AI verbatim this time. As for your shallow, half-baked AI rant, save it for your fellow retards—you'll need it. A data scientist who creates data models and works with AI doesn't need info from someone who shamelessly rips off AI and couldn't articulate a simple thought process of his own for an ordinary forum discussion. The oaf couldn't even at the very least rearrange the format so it doesn't come across as AI-generated text to those who make frequent use of it.

Then again, it isn't my fault to have those expectations from someone whose only two brain cells are fighting for third place. It's interesting to see the amount of energy you put into not letting education get in the way of your ignorance. Still, I'd say go educate yourself, grade A m0ron. You're too dumb to be reasoned with so i'll be ignoring your daft ass.

FxMasterz:
But Adam and Eve were not babies Even Jesus admonished we men to emulate the meekness and innocence of babies🤔.

Perhaps, you don't know that the opposite of Glory is shame[b]This is human sentiment likewise there will be a neutral zone not glorious neither shameful what's your point?[/b], and the opposite of shame is glory. Why were they ashamed? They were not blind my brother. The saw for the first time their own unclothedness which they did not see before.
Nope, they have always been seeing but the eyes of their understanding were not opened once again buttresses their innocent, when you were a child you were butt naked and were not ashamed but can you do that now?where you covered by some invisible glory? Didn't your mom, dad etc not know you were naked but you couldn't perceive yourself as such? Stop with the unnecessary exaggerations They didn't know they were naked simply because they didn't see the unclothedness until what covered the unclothedness departed. The spiritual implication today in our lives is that, in the absence of God's glory, a man's life would be full of shame and reproach.

They didn't see!!! does that mean they were blind? What does the bible say? Adam and eve were naked but they were not ashamed? It didn't say a glory covered them🤔. And again how many times have we seen babies walk naked and are not ashamed even science confirms of this



When you read the Original Hebrew Bible and listen to Jewish traditions and take a study of the Jewish Kabbalah, you'll understand that there are many things known to the Jews about the Bible that are not known to you. You're saying leave it as it is just because that's the limit of your knowledge.
That's not the limit of my knowledge.let me give you analogy when a teacher come to you and says 2+3 is 5 don't you confirm it? After confirming it doesn't it not become an axiom. But if someone comes to you and expands upon that by adding complex mathematical notations whose limits both equal 2 and 3 respectively and as a result equals 5. For the sake of simplicity and ease 2+3 = 5 not lim(log(eqn)) + summation(lim(eqn)) = 5. The bible is simple and straightforward every single thing in our universe can be reduced to basic points(concept) even the bible says to feed the people milk not meat because in fact most of them don't have teeth yet to consume meat. Jesus said how can I tell you of heavenly things when earthly matters you know of. Don't add unnecessary labors upon the people in the same vein the pharisees and Sadducees did.

Most of the arguments we have would be unnecessary if we know what the Jews know. Even the argument about creationism would cease because these things are very clear in the Original Hebrew Bible.

FxMasterz:
Assuming a form does does not mean they're actually in that form.

You don't even understand spiritual things. We're talking about stateliness. Not transformation.

So, if a witch takes the form of a cat, it means she has a Carly state as part of its creation? I think you are confused, they are cars that are convertibles they are open when needed and are closed the same way. From the car maker's perspective this feature is built into them or can be installed into them. The same way some stadium have hoods and others don't just because the bernabeu opened its roof like most other stadia doesn't mean when needed it can be closed. Which drives home my point transformation and transmutation etc are not a prerogative of state one final example you must have heard of people who spend millions of dollars to achieve a desired form just because they are in that form does it mean that they are of that form? Passing your question back to you and your arguments becomes similar to the philosophical paradox of the ship of theseus

Why are you do obdurate in ignorance?

DaddyCoool:
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DaddyCoool:
KUKU! KUKU!! KUKU!!
YouTube Kuku, quoting someone on YouTube quoting someone quoting a book, AFTER being told most of YouTube is MISINFORMATION! Never mind he's been shown that artifacts left on the moon are still clearly visible in photographs taken by unmanned missions! Bye bye!

DaddyCoool:
Just as, if you had any COMMON sense you'd KNOW Rome couldn't have invented Christ of NT, likewise if you had any common sense you'd KNOW anybody who fakes a moon landing will be evasive about the topic going forward - not land on it 5 more times!
No common sense. What you have is conspiracy nutcase sense!😅

Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which circles the moon, has photographed each of the Apollo landing sites, revealing that the flags are still intact. Only one flag, the one planted during Apollo 11, appears to have fallen over—which matches a report from Aldrin that exhaust from the lunar module’s engine knocked down the flag as he and Armstrong lifted off from the moon

Some of the items left behind are highly intentional and sentimental, including a Bible and a photo of astronaut Charles Duke’s family. And others—such as vomit bags, facial wipes, nail clippers and earplugs—are less glamorous. But across the surface of the moon, these motley artifacts contain clues to a history of courage, ingenuity, exploration and unprecedented achievement.

Gabrielshow24:
You have this tendency of changing direction midway. Assuming a form means you are in that form but it doesn't necessarily mean you are of that form. Which means it's a being of higher understanding that can assume a form of lower transcendency. Man assuming a dog form walking on all fours but it's not necessarily all dogs(that can walk on the hind legs like man). Man can emulate a swaying motion of a fish when swimming but it's not also all fishes that can walk on land. Very simple an higher concept being can easily take the form of a lower being that's why it was very easy for God to take the form of man but is the converse true? Nope! Similarly, Angels taking the form of man but is the converse true, also Nope!