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Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by Jamie248: 11:35pm On Sep 11, 2024
BleedingPen:
https://metrowatchonline.com/just-in-edo-2024-police-bans-edo-state-security-network/?amp=1
They should go to court immediately

Useless dog of an IGP is working to rig the election on behalf of his junkie master
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by CIZAR(m): 8:12am On Sep 12, 2024
its better to let them operate sef as you can monitor them with their uniforms and vehicles. as long as they still have their arms and they are an organized group. them go fall out in plain clothes.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by Amayabor1: 9:30am On Sep 12, 2024
senatordave1:
He has sir. The constitution gives the police overall power on internal security sir. Anything security and policing is vested in the exclusive list
Read your comment again. The Constitution gives the police overall power on internal security. Is the issue of internal security what we are discussing now?

Many States have their own security outfit that compliment the police. There is Hisbah in Kano, there is ametokun in the South west states and so on. What makes that of Edo state different?

Let me repeat; The IGP doesn't have the power to disband the security outfit of a state.

For your information, the Edo state security outfit is a creation of a law passed by the Edo state house of assembly. Only a court of competent jurisdiction can disband the security outfit.

I don't know if this is ignorance or what.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by cedricksly: 9:37am On Sep 12, 2024
thewinning101:
Tinubu's former bodyguard.


Does he even understand the law? This guy behave like fool. Are you Edo State House of Assembly? When did the office of IG become lawmaker?

Unnecessary and useless headline.

Is police an arm of the law or just another law enforcement agency that was created by Federal legislature just as ESS or whatever was created by state legislature?

We have accepted foolishness and lawlessness in Nigeria as norm that's why you spit such nonsense.

Vigilante reports to police as what? As Nigerian judiciary or lawmakers? Did you smoke weed? Does Hisbah report to Nigeria Police as well? Does EFCC or Amotekun or Civil Defence or FRSC report to police? As what?
it is so obvious you do not know what you are saying, so let me explain to you so you can understand, the IGP job is to protect the life and properties of every citizens in Nigeria which include edo state, and if a particular security outfit not Enshrined in the constitution or legally backed by law posses a threat to such responsibility he has the right to disband or suspend it.... Have you seen these guys carry a 5 to 9 round pump action gun around like some sort of stick? And let me quickly add, I'm from edo state, and the last time I was in edo state like 2months back, every know cultist which I personally knew are all ESSN memebers carrying pump action shotgun around, why haven't you asked yourself why cult crisis in Benin is filled with blood more than any where else in the country? Because those young guys are bow having access to gun legally in the state courtesy as ESSN memeber and during rival cult clash, they use same weapons to cause mayhem. Are you aware that some roads at night are blocked by ESSN and money charged form motorist plying same road?? If this ESSN is not ban, they are the tools the current Governor is planning to use to cause mayhem during the election....
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by StreetTyga: 9:39am On Sep 12, 2024
Witch hunting security... supposed banned.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by senatordave1(m): 9:41am On Sep 12, 2024
Amayabor1:
Read your comment again. The Constitution gives the police overall power on internal security. Is the issue of internal security what we are discussing now?

Many States have their own security outfit that compliment the police. There is Hisbah in Kano, there is ametokun in the South west states and so on. What makes that of Edo state different?

Let me repeat; The IGP doesn't have the power to disband the security outfit of a state.

For your information, the Edo state security outfit is a creation of a law passed by the Edo state house of assembly. Only a court of competent jurisdiction can disband the security outfit.

I don't know if this is ignorance or what.
The ignorance is certainly not from me...no state has any power to create any security outfit. All security matters are clearly vested in the police and the constitution has placed security on the exclusive list...
Therefore,any state security is subservient to the police or can only be created with the permission of the police,the president or national assembly. Any matter that is in the exclusive list can only be tampered with by the state with permission from the FG. In the eyes of the law,ESSN is illegal. Besides any law that is contrary to the constitution is null and void therefore the enactment by the Edo assembly is illegal. All state security agencies are illegal and can only operate at the behest of the police. That they exist in several states doesn't make it legal. They exist because the fg allows it due to political, economic or social factors

. A court does not need to disband it as the constitution has already made it illegal.it will never stand so why waste time? If you drag this matter to court,the supreme court will bury state police once and for all so why not just let the matter be? If it is not internal security,is it external security! Funny you
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by senatordave1(m): 9:45am On Sep 12, 2024
Jamie248:
They should go to court immediately

Useless dog of an IGP is working to rig the election on behalf of his junkie master
They will lose in court na
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by PARADIZEPRIEST: 10:11am On Sep 12, 2024
Imagine baseki trying to take this election by force.THAT IS WHY STATE POLICE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED FOR NGR GOVERNORS angry ,NEVA EVER,because THEY CAN NEVER BE CIVILIZED,UNTIL those OLD VINDICTIVE CROP OF POLITICIANS CEASE TO EXIST IN NIGERIA angry
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by Amayabor1: 10:14am On Sep 12, 2024
senatordave1:
The ignorance is certainly not from me...no state has any power to create any security outfit. All security matters are clearly vested in the police and the constitution has placed security on the exclusive list...
Therefore,any state security is subservient to the police or can only be created with the permission of the police,the president or national assembly. Any matter that is in the exclusive list can only be tampered with by the state with permission from the FG. In the eyes of the law,ESSN is illegal. Besides any law that is contrary to the constitution is null and void therefore the enactment by the Edo assembly is illegal. All state security agencies are illegal and can only operate at the behest of the police. That they exist in several states doesn't make it legal. They exist because the fg allows it due to political, economic or social factors

. A court does not need to disband it as the constitution has already made it illegal.it will never stand so why waste time? If you drag this matter to court,the supreme court will bury state police once and for all so why not just let the matter be? If it is not internal security,is it external security! Funny you
You are just trying to be smart.

There are 23 states in this country that have their own security outfits. According to you, the IGP has the power to disband a state's security outfit. He hasn't disbanded any one since. But he came to Edo state to disband Edo state security outfit. If it was illegal ever since and he has the powers, why didn't he disband it since? Why didn't he disband ametokun and other state security outfits during the general election? If he has the powers, why is he still allowing other state security outfits to operate? Why did he wait close to an election period to disband something that is illegal since he has the powers?

If you were really smart, you would have known that even if a state law is not in alignment with the Constitution, no one can disband such law or the product of such law except a court of competition jurisdiction. You think we are still in a military regime right? 😅

If you think one man can just wake up and declare a state law illegal, then you are joking.

I live in benin-city. What the IGP said is for e-warriors like you. The Edo state security network officers are still on ground. They are still working. They are everywhere in Benin-city this morning. But if believing they have been disbanded will make you feel better, then please believe it 😅

Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by senatordave1(m): 10:44am On Sep 12, 2024
Amayabor1:
You are just trying to be smart.

There are 23 states in this country that have their own security outfits. According to you, the IGP has the power to disband a state's security outfit. He hasn't disbanded any one since. But he came to Edo state to disband Edo state security outfit. If it was illegal ever since and he has the powers, why didn't he disband it since? Why didn't he disband ametokun and other state security outfits during the general election? If he has the powers, why is he still allowing other state security outfits to operate? Why did he wait close to an election period to disband something that is illegal since he has the powers?

If you were really smart, you would have known that even if a state law is not in alignment with the Constitution, no one can disband such law or the product of such law except a court of competition jurisdiction. You think we are still in a military regime right? 😅

If you think one man can just wake up and declare a state law illegal, then you are joking.

I live in benin-city. What the IGP said is for e-warriors like you. The Edo state security network officers are still on ground. They are still working. They are everywhere in Benin-city this morning. But if believing they have been disbanded will make you feel better, then please believe it 😅
He did not disband them but suspended their involvement in the elections.he literally caged them. Obaseki cannot use them against APC,police can arrest them indiscriminately. The intendment isn't to ban them but to cage Obaseki and make sure they don't interfere in the polls. No one is against them but their activities

Oga,all other security agencies like Amotekun,Ebubeagu,vigilantes work hand in hand with police. They operate alongside police and handover criminals and cases to the police. The Edo state security was suspended now because as the election is getting nearer,the governor is using them to terrorize opponents and petitions against them to the police increases so what do you expect the IG to do?

If it goes to court,they will still lose so what is the difference? Why not just lie low and stay out of politics like in other states? The constitution has already stated that they are illegal,a court will only just stamp what the IG said which will be a setback to what the fight for state police ..

There are a lot of illegalities being allowed so far as it is not overstretched or abused. States are being allowed to mine mineral resources even though it is in exclusive list,states fix federal roads,states build airports but you do it the permission of the fg... You can see the recent case of LG autonomy.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by Amayabor1: 11:15am On Sep 12, 2024
senatordave1:
He did not disband them but suspended their involvement in the elections.he literally caged them. Obaseki cannot use them against APC,police can arrest them indiscriminately. The intendment isn't to ban them but to cage Obaseki and make sure they don't interfere in the polls. No one is against them but their activities

Oga,all other security agencies like Amotekun,Ebubeagu,vigilantes work hand in hand with police. They operate alongside police and handover criminals and cases to the police. The Edo state security was suspended now because as the election is getting nearer,the governor is using them to terrorize opponents and petitions against them to the police increases so what do you expect the IG to do?

If it goes to court,they will still lose so what is the difference? Why not just lie low and stay out of politics like in other states? The constitution has already stated that they are illegal,a court will only just stamp what the IG said which will be a setback to what the fight for state police ..

There are a lot of illegalities being allowed so far as it is not overstretched or abused. States are being allowed to mine mineral resources even though it is in exclusive list,states fix federal roads,states build airports but you do it the permission of the fg... You can see the recent case of LG autonomy.
You still don't get the point. The IGP doesn't have the power to suspend, disband, discontinue or do whatever with a state's security outfit. He doesn't have that power. You don't use illegality to fight what you feel is illegality. We are not in a dictatorship. If the FG feels the Edo security outfit is illegal, even the president can't suspend it. The attorney General of the federation would have to drag the Edo state government to court and the court will decide on the matter.. That's how it is done. The examples you gave about States mining minerals and constructing federal roads doesn't apply to what we are discussing because the Edo state security outfit is the product of a law that was duly passed by representatives of the Edo people in the house of assembly. A state constructing federal roads doesn't require a law. One man can't use his mouth to suspend the product of a state law. The last time we had that was during military rule. Even the president doesn't have such powers.

Hear what you are saying. Cage obaseki. Lol. Why do you want to cage the governor of a state if you don't have a plan to rig? Do you have evidence that the Edo state security outfit has been terrorizing the opposition? We know it is Oshiomole that is trying his best to use the IGP. But God pass am.

If the Edo state security outfit was suspended because of an election, why didn't they suspend Kano hisbah and ametokun when the general election was getting closer? Or suspension of a state security outfit is only possible in Edo state?

The Constitution can't state anything is illegal. Only a court can declare something is illegal.

The IGP can't declare a state law or the product of a state law suspended. If you don't understand this, then sorry.

I hope the Edo state government gets a court injunction soon over the illegality of the IGP.

If you don't like the law that created the Edo security outfit, drag the Edo state House of assembly to court.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by senatordave1(m): 11:25am On Sep 12, 2024
Amayabor1:
You still don't get the point. The IGP doesn't have the power to suspend, disband, discontinue or do whatever with a state's security outfit. He doesn't have that power. You don't use illegality to fight what you feel is illegality. We are not in a dictatorship. If the FG feels the Edo security outfit is illegal, even the president can't suspend it. The attorney General of the federation would have to drag the Edo state government to court and the court will decide on the matter.. That's how it is done. The examples you gave about States mining minerals and constructing federal roads doesn't apply to what we are discussing because the Edo state security outfit is the product of a law that was duly passed by representatives of the Edo people in the house of assembly. A state constructing federal roads doesn't require a law. One man can't use his mouth to suspend the product of a state law. The last time we had that was during military rule. Even the president doesn't have such powers.

Hear what you are saying. Cage obaseki. Lol. Why do you want to cage the governor of a state if you don't have a plan to rig? Do you have evidence that the Edo state security outfit has been terrorizing the opposition? We know it is Oshiomole that is trying his best to use the IGP. But God pass am.

If the Edo state security outfit was suspended because of an election, why didn't they suspend Kano hisbah and ametokun when the general election was getting closer? Or suspension of a state security outfit is only possible in Edo state?

The Constitution can't state anything is illegal. Only a court can declare something is illegal.

The IGP can't declare a state law or the product of a state law suspended. If you don't understand this, then sorry.

I hope the Edo state government gets a court injunction soon over the illegality of the IGP.

If you don't like the law that created the Edo security outfit, drag the Edo state House of assembly to court.
Oga if you go court,you will still lose na so why bother? The IGP has ordered,if you feel otherwise go to court but all those arrested will be in detention till they lose in court so better to act wisely .
Anyways,the state government has acted wise by bowing to the Igp and asking them to go on leave till 23 which is the real intendment of the order... This is the right and wise thing. Obey the order till the elections die down and bring them back and FG won't have any issues or you challenge and lose and the FG will never allow opposition states bring up such ideas. You will even spoil your relationship with the FG. Sometimes,we apply commonsense.

Hisbah,amotekun and others at no time was ever used to hound opposition parties unlike Edo own. Can you spot the difference? Rivers had something similar under wike but we're disbanded and he didn't complain...

The person that is trying to rig is Obaseki, oshiomhole is only trying to nullify him. All rigging and violent plans so far has been instigated by pdp and apc is countering.Ovaseki is a bad man.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by Amayabor1: 5:24pm On Sep 12, 2024
senatordave1:
Oga if you go court,you will still lose na so why bother? The IGP has ordered,if you feel otherwise go to court but all those arrested will be in detention till they lose in court so better to act wisely .
Anyways,the state government has acted wise by bowing to the Igp and asking them to go on leave till 23 which is the real intendment of the order... This is the right and wise thing. Obey the order till the elections die down and bring them back and FG won't have any issues or you challenge and lose and the FG will never allow opposition states bring up such ideas. You will even spoil your relationship with the FG. Sometimes,we apply commonsense.

Hisbah,amotekun and others at no time was ever used to hound opposition parties unlike Edo own. Can you spot the difference? Rivers had something similar under wike but we're disbanded and he didn't complain...

The person that is trying to rig is Obaseki, oshiomhole is only trying to nullify him. All rigging and violent plans so far has been instigated by pdp and apc is countering.Ovaseki is a bad man.
All these one is talk talk talk. Edo security network officials are still working. If the IGP wants to ban illegal state outfits, he should go start with Kano hisbah.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by senatordave1(m): 5:28pm On Sep 12, 2024
Amayabor1:
All these one is talk talk talk. Edo security network officials are still working. If the IGP wants to ban illegal state outfits, he should go start with Kano hisbah.
Oga, your governor has already given them leave so that ship has sailed. Your party just disgraced themselves at the peace accord.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by Amayabor1: 6:16pm On Sep 12, 2024
senatordave1:
Oga, your governor has already given them leave so that ship has sailed. Your party just disgraced themselves at the peace accord.
Which leave? Dey play 😅.

APC and lies. We will disgrace you people at the pools.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by senatordave1(m): 6:23pm On Sep 12, 2024
Amayabor1:
Which leave? Dey play 😅.

APC and lies. We will disgrace you people at the pools.
Lol,you guys have disgraced yourself already. Obaseki cried yesterday and threatened to withdraw from the polls,it's over son
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by Amayabor1: 7:57pm On Sep 12, 2024
senatordave1:
Lol,you guys have disgraced yourself already. Obaseki cried yesterday and threatened to withdraw from the polls,it's over son
You never know wetin dey happen. That's all tactics. 😅😅. That's Nigeria politics for you.

APC represents ill-luck, lies, propaganda, hardship and that evil party has no place in Edo state politics.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by thewinning101: 10:29pm On Sep 12, 2024
cedricksly:
it is so obvious you do not know what you are saying, so let me explain to you so you can understand, the IGP job is to protect the life and properties of every citizens in Nigeria which include edo state, and if a particular security outfit not Enshrined in the constitution or legally backed by law posses a threat to such responsibility he has the right to disband or suspend it.... Have you seen these guys carry a 5 to 9 round pump action gun around like some sort of stick? And let me quickly add, I'm from edo state, and the last time I was in edo state like 2months back, every know cultist which I personally knew are all ESSN memebers carrying pump action shotgun around, why haven't you asked yourself why cult crisis in Benin is filled with blood more than any where else in the country? Because those young guys are bow having access to gun legally in the state courtesy as ESSN memeber and during rival cult clash, they use same weapons to cause mayhem. Are you aware that some roads at night are blocked by ESSN and money charged form motorist plying same road?? If this ESSN is not ban, they are the tools the current Governor is planning to use to cause mayhem during the election....
The "outfit" you are talking about is created by Edo State house of Assembly.

Every known cultist and thug are part of the criminal federal police too. In fact, your federal police are notirious for extorting and sometimes abducting motorists on the road.

Stop crying. Police is also tool of federal government and president.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by alcuin(m): 10:54pm On Sep 12, 2024
Amayabor1:
Read your comment again. The Constitution gives the police overall power on internal security. Is the issue of internal security what we are discussing now?

Many States have their own security outfit that compliment the police. There is Hisbah in Kano, there is ametokun in the South west states and so on. What makes that of Edo state different?

Let me repeat; The IGP doesn't have the power to disband the security outfit of a state.

For your information, the Edo state security outfit is a creation of a law passed by the Edo state house of assembly. Only a court of competent jurisdiction can disband the security outfit.

I don't know if this is ignorance or what.
Thanks.
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by cedricksly: 12:10pm On Sep 13, 2024
thewinning101:
The "outfit" you are talking about is created by Edo State house of Assembly.

Every known cultist and thug are part of the criminal federal police too. In fact, your federal police are notirious for extorting and sometimes abducting motorists on the road.

Stop crying. Police is also tool of federal government and president.
it has been disbanded, if the house of assembly thinks it isn't in the place of the IGP to disband them, they know what to do legally, but they won't, so stop crying more than the bereaved
Re: Edo 2024: IGP Bans Activities Of Edo State Security Network (ESSN) by thewinning101: 12:36pm On Sep 13, 2024
cedricksly:
it has been disbanded, if the house of assembly thinks it isn't in the place of the IGP to disband them, they know what to do legally, but they won't, so stop crying more than the bereaved
It has not been disbanded oga. Your IGP is a mere civil servant just like other policemen albiet the most senior policeman in Nigeria by rank. He can't create or repeal laws or agencies. His work is to enforce and follow already created laws.

Stop confusing yourself. ESC or whatever is still much active and legal.
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