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Una Sabi lie sha

Haaaa.

Oya drop evidence.

ShoeGetSize:
The New Testament canon had not been completed during the time of Our Lord and Savior in this world before He ascended to Heaven.

But the koran you read today is the 1924 Cairo manuscript.

You do not have the original koran of your "prophet's" time.

Even today, there are several different korans with several different numbers of Surahs with different meanings.

Praxis758:
Bible is the only book recognized by the creator. It contains His wills for mankind, so, any other book is either demonic or human fabrication .

God said in suratul Tawbah in Quran that Christians call Jesus son of God and God,Jews call Ezra son of God that these religions are trying to kill the light of them God and instead he will Perish those religions and his light will even shine brighter. Today,Islam is world's fastest growing religion, Christianity is the fastest dying religion in Europe and America and it's Perishing rapidly already. Quran and Prophet Muhammad ﷺ 's Hadiths are loaded with thousands of scientific facts that are recently discovered by modern science. Jesus never even brought Christianity because he was a Muslim as a worshipper of 1 God who submitted to God. Islam was practiced since time of Adam till today. Jesus will enter Paradise but his worshippers that are associating him as partner to God Almighty will perish in hell. All evidences show that Islam is the only way. You're too far behind and ignorant. Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is the most Influential man to ever live according to Google and still we don't regard him as God and he said we shouldn't praise him so much so that he would not be worshipped like Christians worship son of Mary. Jesus doesn't even look like his statues you worship Idol worshippers. Ogun,Ganesha,Sango,Jesus,Krishna were all great men but Idol worshippers love to worship great and extraordinary men and those that worship these people are going straight to Hell fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

LtChisom:
Allah has done it again antichristian.

His time to die came so he died!

He will be raised upon what he died doing!

Which is cool for him!

So what did Allah do?

Praxis758:
Bible is the only book recognized by the creator. It contains His wills for mankind, so, any other book is either demonic or human fabrication .

It’s not difficult to notice mentally unstable children from broken homes

You people are illiterates even when talking about your bible, there is no book on earth especially a book from God apart from the bible that has more incidents of encouraging blood shed even against innocent babies ordered by god in the bible. When talking about violence , incest, prostitution you cant find that in any book from God apart from the bible.
I challenge you to give me ten verses in the Holy Quran that encourages blood shed and i will give very ugly bloody biblical verses in which your god encouraged and even ordered the killing of people including even breast feeding babies , you are either a bible illiterate or a hypocrite for comparing the Holy Quran and the bible when violence, rape, blood shed etc are involved




quote author=chuose post=131982913]Why won't he die when the book is all about killing ?

I mean look at the top cleric of Iran, he is obsessed with killing Israel.

Let's be frank the arab god is not the God Abraham,Isaac and Jacob.


Exo 3:6 KJV Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

Had the arab god been the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob, it would love Israel.



Jesus came that we might have life.

John 5:40 KJV And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Unlike the religion of peace that either kills you or what's u to kill others.[/quote]

Praxis758:
Bible is the only book recognized by the creator. It contains His wills for mankind, so, any other book is either demonic or human fabrication .

You christians even disrespect God till the extent that men and women hold hands in church while praying,women dance in church which would make their boobs and buttocks shake and men would see them do that. You guys call Jesus son of God and even call yourself children of God,how could you lie against God that God gave birth to children. No wonder why in Suratul Maryam,God said he will drive you Mujrimiins (criminals) into hellfire while you stay there thirsty. You Christians are actually criminals,the few out of what is part of your religion I just mentioned is nothing but big crimes. God made reference to Christians so much for associating partners with God,calling God Almighty 3 in 1 like God almighty is not capable of doing wonders as the 1 God he is,lying that God gave birth to Children,noy praying to God 5 times a dag and instead,singing and dancing like God wants to dance. I'm very happy now that Christianity is perishing rapidly though. Churches in Europe and America are closed down,some turned to supermarkets. Elon Musk and Daddy Freeze said Christianity is Perishing already . Good for you criminals.

EnEnPeecee:
The intoxicating evil manual has claimed yet another life. Islamabad

Yours is next

Al Quran💗💗💗
Baba Agba 💗

Rashduct4luv:
So reading a book killed him?

I wonder what will kill you?

Definitely it’s going to be stupidly

Wow, May Allaah forgive His shotcoming and grant him jannatul firdaus 😊 Aameen.
Imagining him been Resurrected on the Day of Resurrection while reciting Qur'an may Allaah Grant us good ending.

Take it up with Islamic scholars:

`Abdullah b. `Umar reportedly said, 'Let none of you say, "I have got the whole of the Qur'an." How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived."'

(Jalal al Din `Abdul Rahman b. Abi Bakr al Suyuti, al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur'an, Halabi, Cairo, 1935/1354, Volume 2, p. 25)

We find this same narration cited in Abu Ubaid’s Kitab Fadail-al-Qur’an:

Said Abu ‘Ubaid:
Isma’il b. Ibrahim related to us from Ayyub from Nafi‘ from Ibn ‘Umar who said – Let none of you say, “I have learned the whole of the Koran,” for how does he know what the whole of it is, WHEN MUCH OF IT HAS DISAPPEARED? Let him rather say, “I have learned what is extant thereof.”

(Ibn Warraq, Origins of the Koran – Classic Essays on Islam’s Holy Book [Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY 1998], Part Two: The Collections and the Variants of the Koran, 9. Abu ‘Ubaid on the Verses Missing from the Koran, by Arthur Jeffery, p. 151: bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)

Goalty01:
Una Sabi lie sha

Haaaa.

Oya drop evidence.

Praxis758:
Bible is the only book recognized by the creator. It contains His wills for mankind, so, any other book is either demonic or human fabrication .

The Bible is the cornucopia of ‘human fabrication’ according to scholars of textual history.

The New Testament is written in Greek almost 400years after the departure of Jesus Christ. Aside perched copies like the ‘P52’ and incomplete text like the ‘Codex Sinaiticus’ which itself is incomplete and is a 4th century parchment copy as well, you have nothing.

Though the Bible claims to be inspired, till date we still do not know the real authors of the Bible.

Gospel according to Mark, Mathew and the others are not written by the acclaimed disciples of Jesus. The disciples of Jesus were Aramaic speaking Jews, not Greeks which is the language of the earliest available manuscript of the Bible.
If not it would have Gospel of Jesus, gospel Mathew and so on.
Read Luke 1 vs 1 and you will see that they are not eye witnesses.

It is so bad that even Christian scholars admit that the Bible has multiple errors. The KJV (which enjoys the largest widespread readership among Christians) for instance was written by a known homosexual king (King James) who manipulated the Bible so much so that today’s Christians and Christianity is neckdeep with LGBTQ.

This is why you several ‘Revised Versions’ of the book. Like the RSV, NIV and many others.
Can you imagine the inspired book of god being subjected to human revision?

I have so much to write about the Bible, but for lack of strength I leave you with this

Oh student of Google. Go back to the Google and ask about the authenticity of the Hadith.

The Hadith you mentioned is considered weak (da'eef).

The chain of narration (isnad) is not reliable.

And let's say it's even strong.

The message in the Hadith is , humility and caution when claiming knowledge of the entire Qur'an.



Islam is based of proven facts

ShoeGetSize:
Take it up with Islamic scholars:

`Abdullah b. `Umar reportedly said, 'Let none of you say, "I have got the whole of the Qur'an." How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived."'

(Jalal al Din `Abdul Rahman b. Abi Bakr al Suyuti, al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur'an, Halabi, Cairo, 1935/1354, Volume 2, p. 25)

We find this same narration cited in Abu Ubaid’s Kitab Fadail-al-Qur’an:

Said Abu ‘Ubaid:
Isma’il b. Ibrahim related to us from Ayyub from Nafi‘ from Ibn ‘Umar who said – Let none of you say, “I have learned the whole of the Koran,” for how does he know what the whole of it is, WHEN MUCH OF IT HAS DISAPPEARED? Let him rather say, “I have learned what is extant thereof.”

(Ibn Warraq, Origins of the Koran – Classic Essays on Islam’s Holy Book [Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY 1998], Part Two: The Collections and the Variants of the Koran, 9. Abu ‘Ubaid on the Verses Missing from the Koran, by Arthur Jeffery, p. 151: bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)

AjegunleBoy:
I don't know oo!

Haaa!!!

ngwababe:
Haaa!!!

or....

let's pray & hope for d werey mod to give his life to Christ first & then Holy Spirit will direct him to come cancel all d 10-10 yrs ban him don dey dash ppl since!

It's actually sahih and it is found in the Tafseer of Qurtubi.

Secondly, it is clearly talking about MISSING verses from some chapters of the koran.

Aisha, your "prophet's" baby wife even admitted this:


Tafseer Qurtubi:

“Ayesha narrates: ‘Surah Ahzab contained 200 verses during the lifetime of Prophet (s) but when the Quran was collected we only found the amount that can be found in the present Quran”.

Goalty01:
Oh student of Google. Go back to the Google and ask about the authenticity of the Hadith.

The Hadith you mentioned is considered weak (da'eef).

The chain of narration (isnad) is not reliable.

And let's say it's even strong.

The message in the Hadith is , humility and caution when claiming knowledge of the entire Qur'an.



Islam is based of proven facts

I'm a Muslim, and I'm telling you it's weak.

Just because Aisha's name or Abdullahi ibn Umar's name was mentioned in the Hadith doesn't make it authentic.

Authenticity is based on the chains of the narrations.

And those Hadith you quoted, have a broken chain.

ShoeGetSize:
It's actually sahih and it is found in the Tafseer of Qurtubi.

Secondly, it is clearly talking about MISSING verses from some chapters of the koran.

Aisha, your "prophet's" baby wife even admitted this:


Tafseer Qurtubi:

“Ayesha narrates: ‘Surah Ahzab contained 200 verses during the lifetime of Prophet (s) but when the Quran was collected we only found the amount that can be found in the present Quran”.

LtChisom:
Based on Historical Facts, there's over 35 different Quranic versions that all contradict each other. And this justifiable criticism comes from actual Islamic scholars, historians and from non Islamic sources.

The Qur'an manuscripts were written between 200–300 years after the death of Mohammed.

Download all of its and show us the one that have 88 chapters , the one that have 66 chapters and the one of 100+ like the comic book you are carrying up and down ..,that is how to state the fact.,. Stop lieing against the scholar you didn't know or didn't said anything you claimed

LtChisom:
You guys can't keep deceiving yourselves with fake twisted history..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLsBbpJB6n8

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Both of una too mumu...
If you asked a two years old kid that went to a proper Islamic kid he will explain to you that all what the reciting about is a just the same Surat..with different phonetic of calling it...

Just a simple thing mumu people de twist..
It just like you are learning a phonetic sound and talking about diphthong in English language...
Abeggiiii

LtChisom:
You mean the poem that was compiled 200 years after your prophet's death or which one?

Which of these qurans are you talking about that was written during your mohammad's lifetime?

1. Qaloon

2. Al-Susi (Ibn Katheer)

3. Khallad

4. Idrees

5. Warsh

6. Hafs Ad-Duri (Abu Amro alBasri)

7. Al-Laith

8. al-Bazzi

9. Al-Azraq

10. As-Susi (Abu Amro alBasri)

11. Ad-Duri (alKisa’i)

12. Ibn Shanboodh

13. Al-Asbahaani

14. Hisham

15. Isa BinWardan

16. Sulayman

17. al-Bazzi

18. Ibn Dhakwan

19. Ibn Jammaz

20. Ahmad bin Farah

21. Qunbul

22. Showba

23. Ruwais

24. Shujaa’ bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi

25. Abu Amro Al-Ala

26. Hafs

27. Ruh

28. Al-Duri (alHasan alBasri)

29. Hafs Al-Duri (Ibn Katheer)

30. Khalf

31. Ishaq

32. Al-Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’i

33. Abu Farah Al-Shan-budhi



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lqQBVtUWvo

Keep deceiving yourself...
Each one of them were just a reciter with different intonation that u just got yourself confused...
It's not like the comic book which have different versions of 150+ with different chapters of 66, 86, 100+

ZekeYeager:
https://en.abna24.com/story/1479882

Almost £4k just to bury dead body

Actually it doesn't. One is classified Hasan by Albaani and he classifies the other as Sahih.

There's also sahih hadith in both Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim that mention how the koran has been textually changed

Goalty01:
I'm a Muslim, and I'm telling you it's weak.

Just because Aisha's name or Abdullahi ibn Umar's name was mentioned in the Hadith doesn't make it authentic.

Authenticity is based on the chains of the narrations.

And those Hadith you quoted, have a broken chain.

Rashduct4luv:
So reading a book killed him?

I wonder what will kill you?

Hatred will kill him like his forefather died

Ekrenji:
Did Muhammad read the Quran you read today or the one burnt by Uthman?

You are too Mimi I swear
Ignorant will kill you
What’s your problem with Islam
Don’t start where your father stopped without gain anything and die miserable

Ekrenji:
Did Muhammad read the Quran you read today or the one burnt by Uthman?

He did. Talk another one.

ShoeGetSize:
The New Testament canon had not been completed during the time of Our Lord and Savior in this world before He ascended to Heaven.

But the koran you read today is the 1924 Cairo manuscript.

You do not have the original koran of your "prophet's" time.

Even today, there are several different korans with several different numbers of Surahs with different meanings.

The same Qur'an Millions have committed to memory already?

You should get your facts right.

ShoeGetSize:
Take it up with Islamic scholars:

`Abdullah b. `Umar reportedly said, 'Let none of you say, "I have got the whole of the Qur'an." How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived."'

(Jalal al Din `Abdul Rahman b. Abi Bakr al Suyuti, al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur'an, Halabi, Cairo, 1935/1354, Volume 2, p. 25)

We find this same narration cited in Abu Ubaid’s Kitab Fadail-al-Qur’an:

Said Abu ‘Ubaid:
Isma’il b. Ibrahim related to us from Ayyub from Nafi‘ from Ibn ‘Umar who said – Let none of you say, “I have learned the whole of the Koran,” for how does he know what the whole of it is, WHEN MUCH OF IT HAS DISAPPEARED? Let him rather say, “I have learned what is extant thereof.”

(Ibn Warraq, Origins of the Koran – Classic Essays on Islam’s Holy Book [Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY 1998], Part Two: The Collections and the Variants of the Koran, 9. Abu ‘Ubaid on the Verses Missing from the Koran, by Arthur Jeffery, p. 151: bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)

You should just be deceiving yourself... The source that didn't quoted Sahih Bukhari,Muslim, Ibn Maja and the author of it Arthur Jeffery a kufar like you🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

He's a convert to the religion of MUDSLIMES! Do you want me to bring the one published by Darusalam in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia?

Expanse2020:
You should just be deceiving yourself... The source that didn't quoted Sahih Bukhari,Muslim, Ibn Maja and the author of it Arthur Jeffery a kufar like you🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Actually, during the Ridda Wars in the Battle of Yamama, many surahs of the koran were lost for eternity when the muslims who had memorised them died in battle.


Here are just 2 examples

Narrated Abu Musa:

We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust". ( Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.501).

Narrated Abu Musa:

We used to recite a surah similar to one of the Musabbihaat, and I no longer remember it, but this much I have indeed preserved: 'O you who truly believe, why do you preach that which you do not practise?' (and) 'that is inscribed on your necks as a witness and you will be examined about it on the Day of Resurrection'. (as-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur'an, p.526).

Luckysbab:
The same Qur'an Millions have committed to memory already?

You should get your facts right.

ShoeGetSize:
Actually, during the Ridda Wars in the Battle of Yamama, many surahs of the koran were lost for eternity when the muslims who had memorised them died in battle.


Here are just 2 examples

Narrated Abu Musa:

We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust". ( Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.501).

Narrated Abu Musa:

We used to recite a surah similar to one of the Musabbihaat, and I no longer remember it, but this much I have indeed preserved: 'O you who truly believe, why do you preach that which you do not practise?' (and) 'that is inscribed on your necks as a witness and you will be examined about it on the Day of Resurrection'. (as-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur'an, p.526).

Did they have any specific portions that died with them without already having backup memorization by others alive?

Except you are saying if the few people who already memorized the new Nigerian National Anthem die today, then the originality of the Anthem will be affected?

They specifically say that they remember how long the Surah is, but they have forgotten most or all of the verses contained in the lost Surahs

Luckysbab:
Did they have any specific portions that died with them without already having backup memorization by others alive?

Except you are saying if the few people who already memorized the new Nigerian National Anthem die today, then the originality of the Anthem will be affected?

ShoeGetSize:
They specifically say that they remember how long the Surah is, but they have forgotten most or all of the verses contained in the lost Surahs

They said it where?