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Steep:
It is serious, having the wrong God means believing in a lie, which has eternal an eternal consequence.

Is the God of Adebayo different from the God of Chosen or the God of Oyedepo?

Petalss:
I’m not personally familiar with the beliefs of Satanists, maybe you are familiar with them sha.
Did they specifically identify this figure(Devil) as the same God worshipped by Abraham, Isaac, and Moses, or is there a distinction in their beliefs?

If someone mixes poison that looks like milk and gives you to drink though it smells toxic, would you drink it because somebody told that whither milk or poison it is all the same providd they have same color, it doesn't matter it depends on the perspective you view it, would you accept to drink it.

Petalss:
Is the God of Adebayo different from the God of Chosen or the God of Oyedepo?

If their God is not the God revealed in the bible then no it is a different God.

Steep:
If someone mixes poison that looks like milk and gives you to drink though it smells toxic, would you drink it because somebody told that whither milk or poison it is all the same providd they have same color, it doesn't matter it depends on the perspective you view it, would you accept to drink it.

Permit me to disagree with your analogy. I'm sorry I don't even understand it.

elated177:
Steep, what is(are) the core identity(ies) of God?

core attributes of God are truth, justice, righteousness, love, holiness, goodness.

Steep:
If their God is not the God revealed in the bible then no it is a different God.

I am now asking you, are they the same or not?

Petalss:
Permit me to disagree with your analogy. I'm sorry I don't even understand it.

Simple if someone gave you a poison that looks like milk but has a toxic smell, but he tells you it is milks even though it is written on the label that it is poison but he tells you it's just difference in perspective would you drink it?

Petalss:
Even in Judaism, the term "Son of God" does not carry the same connotations as it does in Christianity. In the Jewish context, "Son of God" can refer to a person who has a special relationship with God, such as a king or a righteous individual, but it does not imply divinity. It’s more of a metaphorical or symbolic expression of a close relationship or special status rather than a literal divine nature.

The Jewish view of son of God is different from christian veiw of son of God why ? If you read the new testament you will no why(all the works Jesus did and the word he said)

Steep:
Simple if someone gave you a poison that looks like milk but has a toxic smell, but he tells you it is milks even though it is written on the label that it is poison but he tells you it's just difference in perspective would you drink it?

Glory be to God, we do not drink God.
Now answering your question, any milk that has toxic smell is not a milk. And I will not drink because of the toxic smell

Petalss:
Glory be to God, we do not drink God.
Now answering your question, any milk that has toxic smell is not a milk. And I will not drink because of the toxic smell

you have answered right, meaning ignoring warnings and differences especially when it involves lif is not wise, how much more things that can determine your eternal state.
Saying all religion have the same God is like a man ignoring the warning and instead claims all withe liquid is milk.

Petalss:
I am now asking you, are they the same or not?

I have to know if the description of their God fit with the bible, hence I can't answer.

Kingsempires:
The Jewish view of son of God is different from christian veiw of son of God why ? If you read the new testament you will no why(all the works Jesus did and the word he said)

You can assist me whenever it's convenient for you.

The core issue at the heart of this trend revolves around the concept of the sonship of Jesus. Within Christianity, there is not universal agreement on what the 'sonship' of Jesus truly means. Various Christian denominations interpret this concept differently. On the other hand, both Muslims and Jews have already made their positions clear regarding Jesus: they do not recognize his sonship in the divine sense, as understood by many Christians.

Steep:
I have to know if the description of their God fit with the bible, hence I can't answer.

Once you're familiar with their description, kindly provide me with your response.

Just a note: they all happen to be Christian.

Steep:
you have answered right, meaning ignoring warnings and differences especially when it involves lif is not wise, how much more things that can determine your eternal state.
Saying all religion have the same God is like a man ignoring the warning and instead claims all withe liquid is milk.

I never claimed that all religions worship the same God. What I specifically stated is that Muslims, Christians, and Jews worship the same God.
While you may disagree with this, the reality is that these three faiths all call upon the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Moses.
These religious traditions share a common foundation in their belief in the one God who revealed Himself through these figures central to their faiths.
While the three religions differ in their theology and practices, they share a belief in the same God as the God of Abraham. The distinction arises more in how they understand God's nature and relationship with humanity.

Petalss:
Everyone makes mistakes or sins, but repentance and seeking forgiveness are key in many faith traditions.

This is where you are missing the point!

As imperfect humans we are prone to errors but repentance comes not from our own part rather it follows reminders.
You and i may disagree on something as both of us has his own opinion and wants to make it work for good but when someone mentions the name of our God at that moment showing us God's viewpoint on the matter whoever objects or insist on his or her own opinion afterwards is indirectly opposing God because at the mention of the Supreme One all of us must bow as in surrender.

I was a Muslim for years that's where Islam failed because two opposite sides claiming Muslims will have issues and none will remember Allah at that moment instead the issue will escalate into war where adherents will start killing one another yet at the call to salat everyone will enter the same mosque to bow towards the black stone in Mecca.

Surely Islam is weak regarding faith in your Allah at the name of your Allah all adherents supposed to surrender if Allah truly exists and is a God that's promoting PEACE (SALAM) among believers!

Who is your God?

Petalss:
Allah.

Does your God approves drinking alcoholic beverages or eating pork meat?

Petalss:
Alcohol and pork are prohibited in Islam, and Muslims are expected to avoid them as part of their faith and practice.

Good!

Now if someone or group of persons decides that pork meat and alcoholic beverages should be meals served right inside mosques are such ones still wordhipers of your Allah?

Kingsempires:
Wow!!

Real wao!

But they are Chrislam (a combination of Christian and Islam) and not Muslims!

They appear as Muslims but call Jesus!

So essentially they are not Muslims!

MightySparrow:
Mention two prophets between Ishmael and Mohammad from Ishmael's branch. If there was, what was their message. If there was none, why?

Seems you've got a low IQ!

How many Prophets exist between Adam and Noah?

Allah destined it so that there be no prophets between Ishmael until Muhammad.

All the Prophets came from Isaac untill John the baptist and Jesus who were the final.

The reason is the reason why you are poorer than Dangote.

Allah destined it so!

elated177:
Antichristian, which God are you talking about in your assertion below? Is it the the God of my Scriptures or the God of your Qoran? Or are you of the opinion that they are one and the same God?

The trinitarian's God!

I believe there's only one God the creator of everything that exist including Jesus, Muhammad and other Prophets, messengers, Angels, Jinna, planets, etc.

MaxInDHouse:
Who is your God?



Does your God approves drinking alcoholic beverages or eating pork meat?



Good!

Now if someone or group of persons decides that pork meat and alcoholic beverages should be meals served right inside mosques are such ones still wordhipers of your Allah?

Those who engage in such activities inside a mosque would likely be viewed as not adhering to the tenets of Islam. It could also be considered deeply disrespectful to the religious practices and values associated with the faith.

MaxInDHouse:
I was a Muslim for years that's where Islam failed because two opposite sides claiming Muslims will have issues and none will remember Allah at that moment instead the issue will escalate into war where adherents will start killing one another yet at the call to salat everyone will enter the same mosque to bow towards the black stone in Mecca.

You always mention Muslims fighting themselves. How many Muslims are fighting themselves? What's the ratio? Even in your Bible did Jews not rebel against themselves and God? Does that make them still not God's chosen at that time? You need to get your grip on your Jehovah witness denomination and stop using your ignorant islamic past as a proof for you as it is against you! Islam is perfect but Muslims are not!

And Christians too fought so much from the revolution to the crusade! Except that you regard Jehovah witnesses as the only Christian denomination authorised by Jesus in 1919 or so! So for 1919 years God left the world on autopilot!

Muslims that are united are more than those that fights themselves!

Surely Islam is weak regarding faith in your Allah at the name of your Allah all adherents supposed to surrender if Allah truly exists and is a God that's promoting PEACE (SALAM) among believers!

Islam is not weak! Some Muslims are actually weak but never the religion! This is the mentality of Jehovah witness you're promoting! You're being controlled by the Governing body from New York!

You're the weak one that's been banned from many countries due to your heresies!

And mind you not all those who call themselves Muslims are actually Muslims!

Petalss

Petalss:
Those who engage in such activities inside a mosque would likely be viewed as not adhering to the tenets of Islam. It could also be considered deeply disrespectful to the religious practices and values associated with the faith.

That's why i will never ever agree with you that this your Allah is the same as JEHOVAH because Jehovah will not condone disrespect for His sovereignty by watching His worshipers picking up weapons against one another while He remains their SUPREME RULER.

Your Allah has infused in your heart hatred for such trivial case having to do with meals that could be eaten by your imam when he is about to die of hunger and thirst but overlooked cases that's leading his worshipers into exterminating one another.

The true God will never ever approve worship from anyone who kills his or her fellow believer no matter what the case may be unless if God himself declares judgment for execution upon an offender but while two persons are claiming wordhipers of Jehovah both of them must be willing to settle whatever case could lead them into killing one another.

The law @ Exodus 20:13 is strictly to avoid killings among adherents of His laws!

AntiChristian:
Real wao!

But they are Chrislam (a combination of Christian and Islam) and not Muslims!

They appear as Muslims but call Jesus!

So essentially they are not Muslims!

Don't they distance themselves from any pastor who exhibits inherent flaws or questionable behavior?

AntiChristian:
You always mention Muslims fighting themselves. How many Muslims are fighting themselves? What's the ratio? Even in your Bible did Jews not rebel against themselves and God? Does that make them still not God's chosen at that time? You need to get your grip on your Jehovah witness denomination and stop using your ignorant islamic past as a proof for you as it is against you! Islam is perfect but Muslims are not! And Christians too fought so much from the revolution to the crusade! Except that you regard Jehovah witnesses as the only Christian denomination authorised by Jesus in 1919 or so! So for 1919 years God left the world on autopilot! Muslims that are united are more than those that fights themselves! Islam is not weak! Some Muslims are actually weak but never the religion! This is the mentality of Jehovah witness you're promoting! You're being controlled by the Governing body from New York! You're the weak one that's been banned from many countries due to your heresies! And mind you not all those who call themselves Muslims are actually Muslims! Petalss

Whoever raise a weapon against his fellow man is not a Christian! Matthew 26:52

So no matter what anyone claims as long as he or she deliberately shuns the ORDER from the CHRIST such a person is no longer viewing Christ as his or her Ruler (King)

AntiChristian:
Christians too fought so much from the revolution to the crusade! Except that you regard Jehovah witnesses as the only Christian

https://www.nairaland.com/5455718/how-jehovahs-witnesses-better-christians

This is a thread from one of those claiming Christians after carefully observing how Jehovah's Witnesses treat the Name of Jesus!

AntiChristian:
Seems you've got a low IQ!

How many Prophets exist between Adam and Noah?

Allah destined it so that there be no prophets between Ishmael until Muhammad.

All the Prophets came from Isaac untill John the baptist and Jesus who were the final.

The reason is the reason why you are poorer than Dangote.

Allah destined it so!

Aha, are you a potato?

Why did Allah forget about Ishmaelites for so long about 3000 years and when Allah would appoint a prophet from Ishmaelites, the prophet received a revelation that distorted Jewish history and to annihilate them. Why not the history of Arabs?

Okay, Allah didn't reckon with Ishmael's descendants, why, why, why!!!!!!!

Give answer please.

MightySparrow:
Aha, are you a potato?

You're an ass!

Why did Allah forget about Ishmaelites for so long about 3000 years and when Allah would appoint a prophet from Ishmaelites, the prophet received a revelation that distorted Jewish history and to annihilate them. Why not the history of Arabs?

Okay, Allah didn't reckon with Ishmael's descendants, why, why, why!!!!!!!

Give answer please.

It only seems you're catching cruise with your ignorance! It cool to remain ignorant. You can answer the question yourself!

Why did Yahweh give Dangote wealth than all your generations put together?

Answer the above and you have your answer!

MaxInDHouse:
https://www.nairaland.com/5455718/how-jehovahs-witnesses-better-christians

This is a thread from one of those claiming Christians after carefully observing how Jehovah's Witnesses treat the Name of Jesus!

It's none of my business about your organisation and its many heresies! You brought out one thread that's for you but left the tens of thread that were against you some of which you ran away from!

Petalss

AntiChristian:
And mind you not all those who call themselves Muslims are actually Muslims!

Petalss

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Please don’t take my response as opposition to what you’ve stated. I was merely attempting to reinforce the point you made to that individual by highlighting that they engage in the same behavior. My intention was to provide additional support for your argument, not to contradict or challenge it.

MaxInDHouse:
Whoever raise a weapon against his fellow man is not a Christian! Matthew 26:52

So no matter what anyone claims as long as he or she deliberately shuns the ORDER from the CHRIST such a person is no longer viewing Christ as his or her Ruler (King)

No one was a Christian in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John! Christianity was christend by unknown persons and defined later after Jesus.

All these your theories are falsehood!

Petalss

Petalss:
Don't they distance themselves from any pastor who exhibits inherent flaws or questionable behavior?

They are bigots and hypocrites! They have pastors involved in rape, sexual immorality, rituals, etc but it's only Muslims' they emphasize!

Petalss:
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Please don’t take my response as opposition to what you’ve stated. I was merely attempting to reinforce the point you made to that individual by highlighting that they engage in the same behavior. My intention was to provide additional support for your argument, not to contradict or challenge it.

Yeah, I read that well to get your perspective!