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Without too much Grammer I'll give you points why God is actually the terrorist in his own story. The devil who was the bad guy has never killed a single person, but God has tortured and killed many just because he felt like it
I'll give few points to support my claim why he is not real and if he is, then there is a bigger problem.

Point 1 Reading down to the book of Job, I noticed God actually went to Satan who was just chilling, placed a bet with the devil and asked him to torture Job and kill his children, I discussed this with someone and the person answered... "but God gave him ten folds of whatever he lost"... Like seriously? Giving me 10 children will just make up for the one you killed? I was not comfortable with the whole thing and felt this biblical God is egocentric and can just torture you cos he is bored.

point2 God strategically planted a forbidden fruit in the middle of Eden and told his mindless creatures with no wisdom as of then not to eat of that fruit. I don't get it, why plant it in the first place? it's like keeping a yam in a house and tell ur brainless goats not to eat of it, sooner or later they will surely eat it especially when the omini-present God decides to remove his presence from them throughout the day.
I think God was waiting for them to eat it so he can unleash the curses he had wanted to pour on them and enjoy as they suffer.

point3 God was supposed to be all merciful but this same God actually prepared a place (hell) where he could torture people, who don't believe in him, why on his name didn't he just destroy Adam and eve after they became wise and create another mindless cockroach-like creatures where he can control them as he please. I know people will say he wants us to have free-will, but creating the worst fate imaginable for us just because we don't believe in him doesn't sound like free will to me. I think he is a narcissistic being. While those who believe in him will be saved? This brings me to my next point.

point4 what is he saving us from?... Himself? Saving us from what he will do to us if we don't do as he pleases?
It's like an armed robber telling you, give me ur money so I won't have to kill you. Motherf***ker, I will have my money and my life if you were not here in the first place. What's the bullshit about saving me?

point4 God is actually the villain while Satan gives free will. In as much as this may sound disturbing, it's the truth. You can chose to believe in Satan or insult and ridicule him, but most christians will be scared to talk about God cause of fear of getting killed by the ever merciful, ever loving father. Alot of christians knows that there is something wrong with the bible but are too scared to point it out

point5 God/satan is a made-up character in the biblical mythology by our slave masters just to keep us in check and avoid any form of protest while they continue to abduct us, ruthlessly torture us and carry our resources. Cos if you read lev 25:44-46, "you will see how God said you could buy slaves and make them your property for life and can even pass them down to ur children as inheritance" That is not a very palatable thing to swallow for me, maybe only christians will love to have slaves or become slaves cos their God told them to.

point6 The story of Pharaoh, God purposely hardened this man heart so he can torture him, kill innocent first borns, bring plagues on the land of Egypt and finally destroy them. The question is "why will he chose to harden this man's heart? It shows there is a little sympathy within pharaoh but.
That why I think the biblical story is all bullshit cos if God was real, then we are in a bigger problem, both those that will be tortured for eternity and those that will be living with such a cruel being.

Wainey:
Born into a Christian family, I was taught God is all loving, all powerful and all merciful while Satan is the one that kills and destroys
But as I grow up, I began to realize God is actually the terrorist in his own story. The devil who was the bad guy has never killed a single person, but God has tortured and killed many just because he felt like it and I noticed God actually enjoys seeing us suffer and if God is real, then he just does this and let Satan takes the blame.
I'll give few points to support my claim why he is not real and if he is, then there is a bigger problem.

Point 1 Reading down to the book of Job, I noticed God actually went to Satan who was just chilling, placed a bet with the devil and asked him to torture Job and kill his children, I discussed this with someone and the person answered... "but God gave him ten folds of whatever he lost"... Like seriously? Giving me 10 children will just make up for the one you killed? I was not comfortable with the whole thing and felt that is not Godlike

point2 God strategically planted a forbidden fruit in the middle of Eden and told his mindless creatures with no wisdom as of then not to eat of that fruit. I don't get it, why plant it in the first place? it's like keeping a yam in a house and tell ur brainless goats not to eat of it, sooner or later they will surely eat it

The book you read is written by unknown authors whom can't be verified.
Their accounts of events were not accurate.

No wonder you got lost. Try read Qur'an

NeoWanZaeed:
The book you read is written by unknown authors whom can't be verified.
Their accounts of events were not accurate.

No wonder you got lost. Try read Qur'an

I don't believe in ur Allah either.

Wainey:
Born into a Christian family

Who is a Christian?

Wainey:
I don't believe in ur Allah either, a man who needs others to fight for him while he is up there with 72 virgins having endless fornication doesn't sound enticing to me.

hmmm

MaxInDHouse:
Who is a Christian?

Christlike, but that Jesus Christ is also a character in the story.

Most people attribute killing, stealing and destruction to Satan. News flash, God is the one who actually cause destruction and pain not satan. Read the story of Noah, Sodom/Gomorrah, Egyptians/Israelites etc and see for yourself.
If I had to follow one, I'll follow Satan whose only fault was to make us wise and see God for what he truly is. But I can't cos Satan is also made up

Wainey:
I don't believe in ur Allah either, a man who needs others to fight for him while he is up there with 72 virgins having endless fornication doesn't sound enticing to me.

Oh.. never knew you were one of em insanes..

I thought you were sane..

Have fun

NeoWanZaeed:
Oh.. never knew you were one of em insanes..

I thought you were sane..

Have fun

Those who believe in this ur God like mindless cockroaches are sane while we that are logical are insane?

Wainey:
Christlike, but that Jesus Christ is also a character in the story.

So I really do not care about him either

Is this how you've been from childhood or things changed along the line?

Wainey:
Those who believe in this God's like mindless cockroaches are sane while we that are logical are insane?

Like I said, you are part of em insanes.

No wonder you were saying the common lies on the lips on all em insanes

72 virgins lol

MaxInDHouse:
Is this how you've been from childhood or things changed along the line?

Things changed along the line.
Growing up, I question things, I became more logical instead of theological

You attention seeking so called atheits keep boring us with these threads. Nobody asked you nor cares whether you believe in God or not that’s your own business.

NeoWanZaeed:
Like I said, you are part of em insanes.

No wonder you were saying the common lies on the lips on all em insanes

72 virgins lol

Ok. I just don't give a f**k about any of the gods bruh.
They are all made up story, that the followers believe blindly.
Christians and Muslims are not different from those that believes in the Greek God Zeus.
It's all bullshit to me bruh.
I don't mean to disrespect you or what you believe in but I seriously don't see a single reason to believe in Jehovah or Allah

Lemos14:
You attention seeking so called atheits keep boring us with these threads. Nobody asked you nor cares whether you believe in God or not that’s your own business.

Well, most of you force your God down our throats.
Some of you have made the conscious effort of walking down to us and preaching about this ur god, some of you disturb us with loudspeaker as early as 5am. But one thread that God doesn't exist is attention seeking?
U and ur god seems pretty straightforward to me

Wainey:
Ok. I just don't give a f**k about any of the gods bruh.
They are all made up story, that the followers believe blindly.
Christians and Muslims are not different from those that believes in the Greek God Zeus.
It's all bullshit to me bruh.
I don't mean to disrespect you or what you believe in but I seriously don't see a single reason to believe in Jehovah or Allah

This is 21 century. computer age. Information age. And yet, you can't use that to find out the truth.


Well,let me sum it up for you. All Religion worship human being turned into god EXCEPT ISLAM.

ALLAH is not human nor having anything in common with any of his creations

This is what you get when you don't understand what your reading and decides to judge a good literature ignorantly. It's a book of literature. And as such there are a lot of allegory and symbolism and numerology.....


Until you understand what you ready, you will be lost.

The Torah is talking about higher consciousness....and how to attain it. Nothing more

And by extension we live in peace.

Lemos14:
You attention seeking so called atheits keep boring us with these threads. Nobody asked you nor cares whether you believe in God or not that’s your own business.

Exactly.... Attention seeking he is

Wainey:
Well, most of you force your God down our throats.
Some of you have made the conscious effort of walking down to us and preaching about this ur god, some of you disturb us with loudspeaker as early as 6am. But one thread that God doesn't exist is a problem to you?
U and ur god seems pretty straightforward to me

Oga, I personally am against megaphones early in the morning too as it is noise pollution… but then again, know that not everyone that claims to be a Christian or true man of God is as they say they are.

But then again, I don’t know what engagement you’re seeking for from people who do believe in the trinity. If you don’t believe in God again what exactly will you have us do argue with you?

sonmvayina:
This is what you get when you don't understand what your reading and decides to judge a good literature ignorantly. It's a book of literature. And as such there are a lot of allegory and symbolism and numerology.....


Until you understand what you ready, you will be lost.

The Torah is talking about higher consciousness....and how to attain it. Nothing more

And by extension we live in peace.

Ofcos, the bible is just literature, just imaginative bullshit

Lemos14:
Oga, I personally am against megaphones early in the morning too as it is noise pollution… but then again, know that not everyone that claims to be a Christian or true man of God is as they say they are.

But then again, I don’t know what engagement you’re seeking for from people who do believe in the trinity. If you don’t believe in God again what exactly will you have us do argue with you?

Nope, I don't feel like you could argue logically though, you will only end up quoting a passage from your bible, a book written to keep christians in check.
I argued with a christian who wanted to counter my argument and he ended up telling me how Jesus was the way and Mohammed wasn't. Bruh Jesus was the way and light in ur fictional book and nowhere else so defending ur argument from a book that is written for u and ur likes alone is flawed.
Logically and scientifically, ur Jesus doesn't exist.
So I do not feel like I want to argue with a christian that will use bible to defend all his points.

NeoWanZaeed:
This is 21 century. computer age. Information age. And yet, you can't use that to find out the truth.


Well,let me sum it up for you. All Religion worship human being turned into god EXCEPT ISLAM.

ALLAH is not human nor having anything in common with any of his creations

Jehovah is not human either, they are both Gods.
My problem is that these characters sounds like some fictional story

NeoWanZaeed:
Exactly.... Attention seeking he is

And those of you who preach with megaphones aren't seeking attention.
Instead of you to productively counter my points so we could all learn, unlearn and relearn.
You end it with calling me attention seeking. No issue, I expected this cos ur God didn't give you christians enough points to proof of his existence.

Wainey:
Jehovah is not human either, they are both Gods.
My problem is that these characters sounds like some fictional story

Like I said .. knowledge first. Then argue.


You are very far from knowledge

Wainey:
Nope, I don't feel like you could argue logically though, you will only end up quoting a passage from your bible, a book written to keep christians in check.
So I do not feel like I want to argue with a christian.

Keep you in check?

Okay let’s assume that the 10 commandments don’t exist.

I’m sure you wouldn’t like anyone to :

Steal your belongings

Sleep with your wife

Kill any of your loved ones

Lie to you

Bear false witness against you


You as a human being with a conscience would you like someone to do that to you? If God said everybody “do as you like” will you not still complain? Oya kill your conscience and do as you like then.

NeoWanZaeed:
Like I said .. knowledge first. Then argue.


You are very far from knowledge

Oh thanks.
All knowing Neowanzaeed, I do not feel like your God is real.
Cos if he was, he would have shown us proof.

Wainey:
Ofcos, the bible is just literature, just imaginative bullshit

Brilliant if you really really understand it..

You will appreciate it ...just follow my new thread tomorrow...

Lemos14:
Keep you in check?

Okay let’s assume that the 10 commandments don’t exist.

I’m sure you wouldn’t like anyone to :

Steal your belongings

Sleep with your wife

Kill any of your loved ones

Lie to you


You as a human being with a conscience would you like someone to do that to you? If God said everybody “do as you like” will you not still complain? Oya kill your conscience and do as you like then.

That is why I said the bible is written to keep you in check, well those laws help the society to an extent but we all know those characters in the bible don't exist. Jesus never existed, Noah didn't built a boat smaller than the titanic to accommodate billions of every creature on the planet.
The books are written to govern the society better. Dazzol

Wainey:
Oh thanks.
All knowing Neowanzaeed, I do not feel like your God is real.
Cos if he was, he would have shown us proof.

God is consciousness...

That is what the literature is saying...

Not a MAN up in the sky

sonmvayina:
Brilliant if you really really understand it..

You will appreciate it ...just follow my new thread tomorrow...

try and mention me on the new thread pls.

Wainey:
try and mention me on the new thread pls.

ok