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Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 5:45am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If you call that Arabian man the prophet of your God and willing to do whatever he says then what makes you feel others are wrong when they does whatever their own prophets also say? smiley
The Arabian man didn't say he's the only prophet. He said he's the last of them. There are many others before him like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joseph, Jonah, Jacob, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Solomon, David, Elisha, Elijah up to Zechariah, John the baptist and Jesus!

While you Christians reject Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam entirely, we do accept the Prophethood and messengership of Jesus the son of Mary!

So how are we like you and others?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 5:46am On Sep 15, 2024
MightySparrow:
Is that the reason Sunni is killing Shia?
How many Sunni is killing Shia in Lagos, Oyo, Osun to Niger state?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:51am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
No one was Christian before Jesus left the world! And God didn't ordain Christianity nor Judaism at all as a viable way of life! Even your Jehovah witness is simply a creation of Russell another white man!
So in a nutshell you knew very well that there is no time wordhipers of the God of Abraham raised weapons against one another for any reason shey?

God stopped sending messages to mankind through prophets after the Bible book of Revelation has been written so whoever comes claiming he or she is prophesying apart from echoing the promises of God's Kingdom is FAKE!

God's servants don't lift up weapons against their fellow worshipers that's one good reason why you should think twice about the religions claiming they are worshiping the same God of Abraham today because He has always proved to be the SUPREME BEING who watches over His own worshipers in a LOVING and FATHERLY manner, none of His loyal servants can raise his or her eyes above in worship to him when such a person wishes to kill his fellow worshiper unlike you people who pray in the name of your Gods yet raises weapons against your fellow religionists due to politics and racism yet claiming you are worshiping the same God of Abraham! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:55am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
The Arabian man didn't say he's the only prophet. He said he's the last of them. There are many others before him like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joseph, Jonah, Jacob, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Solomon, David, Elisha, Elijah up to Zechariah, John the baptist and Jesus!
While you Christians reject Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam entirely, we do accept the Prophethood and messengership of Jesus the son of Mary! So how are we like you and others?
Muhammad is not a worshiper of that same God that's why his disciples (followers) can pray to your Allah yet pick up weapons against one another after bowing towards the black stone in Mecca, that's a sign showing you that your Muhammad is FAKE, your Allah is FAKE, your Quran is FAKE and so your ISLAM is FAKE! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Iamanoited: 6:54am On Sep 15, 2024
GOD IS OMNIPOTENT OMNIPRESENT AND OMNISCIENT. YOU CANNOT BE JEALOUS OF THAT.


GOD IS ALSO SSIT-SUPREME SPIRIT INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 7:19am On Sep 15, 2024
Steep:
To take the place of guilty humans so they don't get condemned.
Are there no other options than for Jesus to die? Is dying Jesus's destiny and there's nothing that could have stopped his death?

Only Hypocrites deny Destiny!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 7:28am On Sep 15, 2024
sonmvayina:
Is that Allah or not...

All those stories you post means nothing...

As long as that moon crescent is there, I have equated Allah to the moon God Nanna/sin. He is definitely up there. He is the god of darkness. Which Christian know as the devil. ..that is the only one I can make. I sincerely doubt that Allah is Marduk. The only equivalent is Nanna.
But Allah says He created the moon, sun in the Qur'an. Qur'an 21:33, Qur'an 10:5.

You are still spreading falsehood. I won't brand you a liar yet as this is your second mistake with me on this thread!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Qasim6(m): 7:41am On Sep 15, 2024
SIRTee15:
Ok before we start.
I need to clarify 2 things

1. Do U accept the 2nd person of the trinity as per Christian theology is the WORD OF GOD- also called God the Son/Jesus Christ.

2. Tell me the authoritative Jewish texts that U know.

I need clear answers to above because I don't want any denial once I bring the evidence.
No problem. We know that's what you believe. We know that's what John gospel says, we just don't know where the writer get that from.

Tanakh, Oral torah(Talmud, Mishnah).
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 7:58am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Muhammad is not a worshiper of that same God that's why his disciples (followers) can pray to your Allah yet pick up weapons against one another after bowing towards the black stone in Mecca, that's a sign showing you that your Muhammad is FAKE, your Allah is FAKE, your Quran is FAKE and so your ISLAM is FAKE! smiley
So Joseph and his brothers fought because their God was fake too?

Bros you're going stale!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 8:01am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell you knew very well that there is no time wordhipers of the God of Abraham raised weapons against one another for any reason shey?

God stopped sending messages to mankind through prophets after the Bible book of Revelation has been written so whoever comes claiming he or she is prophesying apart from echoing the promises of God's Kingdom is FAKE!

God's servants don't lift up weapons against their fellow worshipers that's one good reason why you should think twice about the religions claiming they are worshiping the same God of Abraham today because He has always proved to be the SUPREME BEING who watches over His own worshipers in a LOVING and FATHERLY manner, none of His loyal servants can raise his or her eyes above in worship to him when such a person wishes to kill his fellow worshiper unlike you people who pray in the name of your Gods yet raises weapons against your fellow religionists due to politics and racism yet claiming you are worshiping the same God of Abraham! smiley
Abeg enough of all these awake theories from New York. I'm tired!

All of your new testament are doctored that's why you don't believe in the trinity but they do believe it yet you read the same book!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 8:07am On Sep 15, 2024
Sand2022:
I have not seen analogy without it's limitations.

But I think it's better to say 3 who's and one what.
How is this explained by any of God in the Bible?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 8:07am On Sep 15, 2024
SIRTee15:
AntiChristian what if I show you with evidence that the ancient Jews believed in the plurality of God's nature, will it end the discussion?
If I produce evidence that the ancient Jews believed God manifest in more than one person, will U be satisfied?
If I show U that the ancient Jews believed the word of God is a person with the full divinity of the God as stated in John 1, will U accept or continue to argue blindly.
You'll only lie as usual!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 8:13am On Sep 15, 2024
Kingsempires:
so una no dey ask to Mohammed to pray for una ? undecided
Anyone who prays to Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam or Jesus Alayhi salaam or any other Prophets or humans is not a Muslim!

We only pray to Allah and ask Allah to bless Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by sonmvayina(m): 8:33am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
But Allah says He created the moon, sun in the Qur'an. Qur'an 21:33, Qur'an 10:5.

You are still spreading falsehood. I won't brand you a liar yet as this is your second mistake with me on this thread!
Lol...it is you who is believing without proper knowledge and research..

If you are sincere, that's what you will do.

When I learnt to read and understand, that's the first thing I did and I uncovered many things that where hidden from us...
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:44am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
So Joseph and his brothers fought because their God was fake too?
Bros you're going stale!
Praise be the name of JEHOVAH the one and only true God because you can never ever find the highlighted in his word! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 8:47am On Sep 15, 2024
sonmvayina:
Lol...it is you who is believing without proper knowledge and research..

If you are sincere, that's what you will do.

When I learnt to read and understand, that's the first thing I did and I uncovered many things that where hidden from us...
There's no research outside the book used by the Muslims about their God!

You want me to believe Google over the Qur'an and traditions of the Prophet? Nothing is hidden in Islam except what what we do not need to know!

Allah said He created the sun and the moon!
Allah is over His throne above the heavens!

So you're the one spreading falsehood that's unproven in Islam!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:47am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
Abeg enough of all these awake theories from New York. I'm tired!
All of your new testament are doctored that's why you don't believe in the TRINITY but they do believe it yet you read the same book!
You haven't quote or cite a single verse in any version of the Bible where the highlighted is found just as there is nowhere your Quran says a worshiper of your Allah can eat pork meat or drink alcoholic beverages.

So you're just holding up to straws! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Qasim6(m): 8:59am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
So Joseph and his brothers fought because their God was fake too?

Bros you're going stale!
U dey mind the dumb skull?

I never see someone make that kind of silly argument.

Even the nation of Israel split into two after Solomon and they fought each other.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 9:00am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You haven't quote or cite a single verse in any version of the Bible where the highlighted is found just as there is nowhere your Quran says a worshiper of your Allah can eat pork meat or drink alcoholic beverages.

So you're just holding up to straws! smiley
I'm not for Trinity before so which straw did you see for my hand?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 9:01am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Praise be the name of JEHOVAH the one and only true God because you can never ever find the highlighted in his word! smiley
You said it yourself! Muslims fight because their God is fake!

So Joseph's brothers too fought him because their God were fake!

That's Jehovah witness ideology from NY!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:03am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
I'm not for Trinity before so which straw did you see for my hand?
When i asked you to quote or cite a verse where TRINITY is found written in the Bible this is your response:

AntiChristian:
Of course it is clear that doesn't exist!
So if you're now claiming those who believe it should be considered then you're holding up to STRAWS! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:04am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
You said it yourself! Muslims fight (against themselves) because their God is fake!
So Joseph's brothers too fought him because their God were fake!
That's Jehovah witness ideology from NY!
Can you quote or cite anywhere in the Bible where the highlighted is found written? smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 9:09am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote or cite anywhere in the Bible where the highlighted is found written? smiley
You should quote where our God is fake because there are Muslims fighting themselves exist?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 9:10am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
When i asked you to quote or cite a verse where TRINITY is found written in the Bible this is your response:

So if you're now claiming those who believe it should be considered then you're holding up to STRAWS! smiley
Who told you to consider them? They have the belief and there are in the majority! I just want them to explain it here! And no one can!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
You should quote where our God is fake because there are Muslims fighting themselves exist?
I told you that the God of Abraham has never approved the worship of two opposite sides so His worshipers can never raise weapons against themselves during war because He is their SUPREME RULER, GOD and FATHER who really cares for His worshipers.
So if your Allah welcomes those killing their fellow worshipers due to political or racial disputes then it can't be the same God! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:14am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
Who told you to consider them? They have the belief and there are in the majority! I just want them to explain it here! And no one can!
So when i'm talking about what is found written in the Bible you bringing the case of those who can't point to what they believe in the Bible is tantamount to holding on to STRAWS! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 9:27am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I told you that the God of Abraham has never approved the worship of two opposite sides so His worshipers can never raise weapons against themselves during war because He is their SUPREME RULER, GOD and FATHER who really cares for His worshipers.
So if your Allah welcomes those killing their fellow worshipers due to political or racial disputes then it can't be the same God! smiley
You're just going front and coming back! Where did you see that those fighting themselves are serving a fake God in the first place?

Show us?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Expanse2020(m): 9:34am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
1. If it is that God has a Spirit called Holy Spirit and Jesus is the son then you are talking about duality not Trinity!

2. And your theory does not explain how the three are coequal and coeternal! The Husband is greater than the wife in marriage! The husband as well as the wife can also initiate divorce in marriage!

3. If God has a spirit, then why is a sin against the Holy Spirit hard to forgive while God forgives all sins due to him?

4. And you mentioned heir to the throne. Do you mean Jesus will take over as God when the original God dies?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:39am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
You're just going front and coming back! Where did you see that those fighting themselves are serving a fake God in the first place?
Show us?
Oh that's common sense!

The title "GOD" means SUPREME BEING so if you truly believe that your Allah is SUPREME over you and your fellow Muslim do you think anything no matter how precious it is to you could make you lift up a weapon against your brother in Islam whose life is really precious to your Allah?

In the Bible the God of Abraham warns His own worshipers never to murder {Exodus 20:13} yet He orders them to exterminate those who are standing in the way of pure worship.

So if you are not deceiving yourself is it not clear that the true God wants pure worship to be established and preserve the lives of those participating in pure worship?

There is no single verse in the whole Bible where you can find two opposing sides who are worshipers of the same God of Abraham because if you kill a worshiper of Jehovah or someone when God never gave such an order you're a murderer.

According to God's word Jesus is the one who will destroy all enemies of pure worship {Luke 19:27} but he must never do such unless the order comes from God! Psalms 110:1-2

So your Allah who welcomes worship from two opposing sides yet after slaughtering one another they will bow low facing the black stone in far away Mecca can never ever be the same God who appeared to Abraham! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:09am On Sep 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Oh that's common sense!

The title "GOD" means SUPREME BEING so if you truly believe that your Allah is SUPREME over you and your fellow Muslim do you think anything no matter how precious it is to you could make you lift up a weapon against your brother in Islam whose life is really precious to your Allah?

In the Bible the God of Abraham warns His own worshipers never to murder {Exodus 20:13} yet He orders them to exterminate those who are standing in the way of pure worship.

So if you are not deceiving yourself is it not clear that the true God wants pure worship to be established and preserve the lives of those participating in pure worship?

There is no single verse in the whole Bible where you can find two opposing sides who are worshipers of the same God of Abraham because if you kill a worshiper of Jehovah or someone when God never gave such an order you're a murderer.

According to God's word Jesus is the one who will destroy all enemies of pure worship {Luke 19:27} but he must never do such unless the order comes from God! Psalms 110:1-2

So your Allah who welcomes worship from two opposing sides yet after slaughtering one another they will bow low facing the black stone in far away Mecca can never ever be the same God who appeared to Abraham! smiley
So this proofs Joseph's brothers are worshipping a fake God because they were aware of all these your common sense from Jacob aka Israel yet they fought Joseph!

Or is it only applicable to Muslims but not others?

Is it applicable to the revolutionist and crusaders too?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m):
AntiChristian:
So this proofs Joseph's brothers are worshipping a fake God because they were aware of all these your common sense from Jacob aka Israel yet they fought Joseph!
Or is it only applicable to Muslims but not others?
Is it applicable to the revolutionist and crusaders too?
Joseph's brothers did not FIGHT with Joseph nah rather they conspired to sell send him far away so that the prophecies of his dreams may not come true.
So stop deceiving yourself that is not fight as Joseph wasn't ready to fight them and their father never knew about this evil scheme and God never approved it that's why they had to lie to their father about the whereabout of their brother.

Do you think if it's a war like what is happening among those claiming Muslims they will lie to their father who supposed to pray for victory before they can go to war against the enemies of pure worship?

Ọmọ i've told you times without number that you're free to keep the religion of your parents if that's what you want but when it comes to pure worship it doesn't depend on what your parents handed over to you! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Sand2022: 11:21am On Sep 15, 2024
AntiChristian:
How is this explained by any of God in the Bible?
Three persons, one essence.
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