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Lucifyre:
"The God of the Bible is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

― Richard Dawkins

Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life (1995)



"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."


Do you agree with Dawkins on this?
Do you accept your existence has no meaning, no difference, no purpose and no design?

MaxInDHouse:
Are you concluding on what this man said or you will like to make your own investigation?

Lol! What investigation?! For a case that's closed and the folder's already collecting dust on the shelf.

richmond500:
I don't actually get in.
I mean u believe in the biblical god(in as much as u said we shouldn't talk about it for now).
Permit me to ask why u actually believed and serve him as u do? Cos for me, the story around him is shady.
And I can't defend someone with a shady story like that... It's easier to defend that he doesn't exist and u can have a plethora of points to give

Ọmọ you're running too fast now please try to take it easy i have not said my God is the biblical God yet i'm only giving you the QUALITIES i need to see just as you too said before i can wholeheartedly stand up to speak in defense of any God be it Ṣàngó, Júpítérì, Zeus, Ra, Allah, Amadioa or Yahweh.

I strongly believe that God exists but to speak in defense of any God those QUALITIES must be there!

Lucifyre:
Lol! What investigation?! For a case that's closed and the folder's already collecting dust on the shelf.

If a case is truly closed billions out there won't be rendering sacred service to God/Gods so it's you that have reached your limit when talking about how far you can go with your investigation!

Aemmyjah:
Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life (1995)



"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."


Do you agree with Dawkins on this?
Do you accept your existence has no meaning, no difference, no purpose and no design?

Do u think ur existence and purpose in life is to get created, serve a control freak or face eternal torture?

Do u really feel that is how u are designed for that one purpose?

richmond500:
The fact that people are looking forward to spending eternity with that control freak baffles me.

Do they read?! How many of them read their bibles nevermind reading about the context surrounding it. YHVH's the epitome of toxic, more toxic than ground zero of a nuclear bomb.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're running too fast now please try to take it easy i have not said my God is the biblical God yet i'm only giving you the QUALITIES i need to see just as you too said before i can wholeheartedly stand up to speak in defense of any God be it Ṣàngó, Júpítérì, Zeus, Ra, Allah, Amadioa or Yahweh.

I strongly believe that God exists but to speak in defense of any God those QUALITIES must be there!

Oh, I get u now.
It's fine if you believe that a God exists, u just aren't sure of which God is the true God.
I only have problem with those that wants to choke me with their God

richmond500:
Oh, I get u now.
It's fine if you believe that a God exists, u just aren't sure of which God is the true God.
I only have problem with those that wants to shoke me with their God

You don't have to feel choked my guy just be yourself and feel relaxed everyone has a right to whatever they choose to believe (trust) but it's when someone's comments is proving true that i become uncomfortable whether he is an atheist, agnostic, traditionalist, buddhists, hindu, judaist or muslims.
So far they can't make any sense i am cool with my own beliefs!

richmond500:
Do u think ur existence and purpose in life is to get created, serve a control freak or face eternal torture?

Do u really feel that is how u are designed for that one purpose?

1. My God is not a control freak cos he has given me freewill. If God were a control freak, would he allow you speak blasphemous nonsense. It is very possible for me to easily choose not to serve God again. No worshipper of a control freak would do that

2. My God does not torture humans in hell fire. He himself condemned humans that did so to their own children and has promised everlasting life only as a gift to faithful ones. The wicked will be destroyed. Do you know the similarities of God's judicial punishment in the wicked such as Pharaoh, Sodom, The Assyrians, the Canaanites, etc, are they still suffering till now? No. Their punishment served once and for all

3. Every complex object or everything that is made has a purpose. Your brain has a purpose. Your car has a purpose. Your TV has a purpose. And all these must be used right according to the instructions of the Maker for them to function properly. Similarly, I know that I am made and that is very logical and reasonable and for me to be truly happy - physically, morally, spiritually, etc, I must live my life in a way that is in accord to that of what Jehovah God himself wanted. Yes, man must live by God's word since we're not like animals


Again, even if God torment in hellfire, I'll rather serve him with fear to attain him blessings than accept by some so called scientists that life has no purpose, good, design, difference. Is that appealing to you?


Goodnight

MaxInDHouse:
If a case is truly closed billions out there won't be rendering sacred service to God/Gods so it's you that have reached your limit when talking about how far you can go with your investigation!

Last i checked, don't remember speaking for anyone save for myself.

Lucifyre:
Last i checked, don't remember speaking for anyone save for myself.

Good!

So you have nothing to do with this case about speaking for God it's still a fresh case in many places and minds of billions around you!

Aemmyjah:
1. My God is not a control freak cos he has given me freewill. If God were a control freak, would he allow you speak blasphemous nonsense. It is very possible for me to easily choose not to serve God again. No worshipper of a control freak would do that

if you do not serve him, you will be tortured forever in hell, that is not free will bruh

2. My God does not torture humans in hell fire. He himself condemned humans that did so to their own children and has promised everlasting life only as a gift to faithful ones. The wicked will be destroyed. Do you know the similarities of God's judicial punishment in the wicked such as Pharaoh, Sodom, The Assyrians, the Canaanites, etc, are they still suffering till now? No. Their punishment served once and for all

the bible said there is a hell for people, a place of gnashing of teeth.Jude 6. It is a furnace of conscious torment where the fire never goes out (Matt. 13.49-50). It is a place of excruciating misery where the worm does not die (Mark 9.47-48). I think you should read your bible more often

3. Every complex object or everything that is made has a purpose. Your brain has a purpose. Your car has a purpose. Your TV has a purpose. And all these must be used right according to the instructions of the Maker for them to function properly. Similarly, I know that I am made and that is very logical and reasonable and for me to be truly happy - physically, morally, spiritually, etc, I must live my life in a way that is in accord to that of what Jehovah God himself wanted. Yes, man must live by God's word since we're not like animals

hmm, I know for a fact my purpose is not to serve a tormentor

Again, even if God torment in hellfire, I'll rather serve him with fear to attain him blessings than accept by some so called scientists that life has no purpose, good, design, difference. Is that appealing to you?


Goodnight

Scientists never said life has no purpose, u are making that up. Well as long as u have agreed to serve ur god in fear without freewill, I have no issue with u.

Aemmyjah:
Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life (1995)



"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."


Do you agree with Dawkins on this?
Do you accept your existence has no meaning, no difference, no purpose and no design?

The fact i liked a violinist's outstanding solo in an orchestra performance doesn't mean I'm obligated to like all his performances. There's something called nuance.

Lucifyre:
The fact i liked a violinist's outstanding solo in an orchestra performance doesn't mean I'm obligated to like all his performances. There's something called nuance.

Do you actually believe the violinist exists or you're repeating the words of a disgruntled audience?

safarifarms:
No matter how many time you are told the truth, you will still ask this same question a thousand times. I think it's the question given to you Atheist to ask about things that are beyond your ability to understand.

I've already told you it's beyond you to understand what the Garden of Eden is all about.

The Bible is full of mysteries, parables, figures of speech. But people like you will ignorantly read it all as pure literal history and miss the mark.

Psalm 78:2-3
2. I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
3 Which we have heard and known, and our fathers have told us.

I'd also already told you that Jesus only taught in Parables because of the presence of people like you and only explained his parable to his disciples. No matter the attempt, it is not given unto you to understand it.

Matthew 13:
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

In my previous response I'd also mentioned how Peter described how Paul's teachings were hard to understand and those who don't understand it wrestle with it to their destruction.

Now I'm done. Repeat the same question again.

So its beyond me to understand the Bible? So is it beyond you to understand, or are you like me?

safarifarms:
Rest. It's beyond you. The Bible was written like that because of People like you.
Your believe that God does not exist is sufficient for you for now.
When you are ready to learn the mysteries of the Bible, it will be explained to you.

Do you know who wrote Genesis where the account of the Garden of Eden is?

So who wrote Genesis?

safarifarms:
See how you draw your conclusions and as much claim Christians don't think at all. Lol.
If the book wasn't written by Job shouldn't you (who claim to be smart) be wise enough to see that whoever wrote it and concluded in the last chapter that he didn't know God and only wrote based on rumors, then whatever he wrote shouldn't be taken at face value?
Like you quipped, these Athiests no dey think at all. Lol

This conversation is already going south. I won't respond to you again.

Whoever wrote the narrative about the angels and Satan, is not Job. Now job wrote the part you talked about which was clearly quoted as per him. So its obviously not the same person, dvmmy

Kvarachi:
So why are we now running to live with the people that live on credit.
Isn't it a shame that people that lives on credit are times 100 better than us

The guy na dvmmy. He doesn't think. Logic and science are not his forte

You guys are still on this thing?
None even a single person has prove the existence of God.
I am even tired of discussing this thing

Kingsempires:
those people are doing their own free will that is all I can say

Lol 😆
Its the same excuse that muslims give when confronted with the fact that their religion is violent.
Aint it so funny you are giving the same dumb excuse?

Kvarachi:
Hahaha, I give up on you cuz you clearly do not know what you're saying

I warned you folks about that guy. He intentionally dodges and befuddles you with nonsense then claims victory

jaephoenix:
Lol 😆
Its the same excuse that muslims give when confronted with the fact that their religion is violent.
Aint it so funny you are giving the same dumb excuse?

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― Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life (1995)



"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."


Do you agree?
Do you share similar sentiment?
How does it affect your existence too?

richmond500:
I give up on you.

Lol. You obviously don't know the dude. Waste of sperm

sanesta:
And almost the whole killings that is recorded in the bible was done by god, infact the only killing satan did was that of Job's sons on god's permission

So it was basically Yahweh, then

NeoWanZaeed:
Do you know how 9 year old look back then? You have no idea how people then look like..
Using what you know now to judge what happened then which you have absolutely no idea about is kinda low bawling bro.


BEHEADING OF APOSTASY
Nothing is bad about it at all. For you to deny, blaspheme and criticise your creator.. the punishment is befitting.

It's just like a child denying and blaspheming parents that brought him or her up.

BEHEADING is for Muslim that renegade and non Muslims that blaspheme.


It's only Amir that can give verdict of killing of non Muslims and those who renegade and jihad.


What you itemized.. that's for Islam nation.

As for now..
1. Preach
2. Wether they accept or not. . Not your problem
3. Refute their blaspheme and errors.

So because a 9 yo girl looks mature you should fvck her? Please which country are you in? You're a potential (if not actual ) sex offender. You should be locked up

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

So you have nothing to do with this case about speaking for God it's still a fresh case in many places and minds of billions around you!

Wouldn't change the fact that even if they investigate from now till another 5000 yrs they'll never come up with objective and empirical proof. Subjective conclusions and anecdotes without substance nor based on reality would forever be the outcome, dividing the so called investigators even those who offshoot from the same branch across numerous lines. Nonsensical chaos that's fun to watch, as it was from the very onset.

Lucifyre:
Wouldn't change the fact that even if they investigate from now till another 5000 yrs they'll never come up with objective and empirical proof. Subjective conclusions and anecdotes without substance nor based on reality would forever be the outcome, dividing the so called investigators even those who offshoot from the same branch across numerous lines. Nonsensical chaos that's fun to watch, as it was from the very onset.

You never made any investigation nah so leave matter for Matthias!

erniok:
I'm going to respond to this post on your first link because if that was wrong, I could guess the rest would be.

It's obvious you never bothered to go through that post before pasting as you just used google search.

The guy was identified as as christian just once by a friend but no where did he identify himself as one. A coworker said he was distressed because he lost a family member. Why the independent failed to call him a grieving terrorist is what I'm still trying to figure out. Where the killer even shouted " jesus christ is lord" before ramming into the family with his vehicle was never captured and yet, you were audacious to call him a Christian terrorist. Such shame.

Did you read this part of the article?

"He’s Christian and has a great relationship with God ... He was always pretty calm towards other people,” added the unnamed friend.

What does it say?

jaephoenix:
Lol. You obviously don't know the dude. Waste of sperm

seriously, that guy is the worst to engage in a topic like this.

This guy made no single sense but claims to win an argument

MaxInDHouse:
Says indisputable WISDOM!

Only you call it wisdom. There are thousands and one daft posts in that bible

jaephoenix:
Only you call it wisdom. There are thousands and one daft posts in that bible

WISDOM is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF ACCUMULATED INFORMATION FOR BENEFITS.

Of course millions are benefitting themselves today so it's you who can't see it!