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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Funkyswagzz(m): 6:48am On Sep 20, 2024
Drella:
They rushed to disarm him so he won't angrily fire the weapon at anyone.
Why should he feel threatened? If they want to attack him, they all have their rifles, they don't need to disarm him before firing at him.

The rifle doesn't belong to him, he was given and it must be collected.

While due process wasn't adhered to in disarming him, he committed a lot of military offences out of anger.
Bro if this guy was summoned by his superior and asked to summit his gun such thing wouldn't have happened. Ok as they rushed his gun was he trying to kill anyone. What I see here is lack of professionalism, barbaric approach and a very local display. If that guy was a dreadful killer you've given him a reason to shoot and kill.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Harrisonwo(m): 6:49am On Sep 20, 2024
Wickedfact:
What is the due process in disarming someone?

That only due process is surprise. That is it.
The C.O. gave an instruction, it's for the men to call MP to disarm and detain him. But him releasing those shots was wrong all the same.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by malvisguy212: 6:49am On Sep 20, 2024
AuschwitzPrefec:
Watched the video .

Resisting an arrest order by an officer

Refusing to be disarmed by his fellow soldiers .


Firing his weapon sporadically


He's even lucky that one of his own didn't open fire on him.

If this was the US military he would have since been gunned down.

The guy court martial counts go plenty.

1. Resisting a lawful order by a Senior officer to be disarmed.

2. Resisting arrest.

3. Attempted murder . As long as he pulled that trigger even if not targeting anyone he will be charged for attempted murder.

4. Unlawful possession of military firearm. As he refused to be disarmed and kept hold of his weapon despite an order to hand it over, he has committed a grave crime of possessing military weapon without authorization.

5. Insurbordination

6. Mutiny charges will be slammed on him from all the above charges . This carries a death sentence.

The only heroes here are his fellow Seamen who did everything to disarm him without resorting to deadly force .
you know next to nothing. If the soldier did not sign off, even the chief of army staff cannot collect his riffle, the only person that can collect his riffle is the president (tinubu) . Riffle is more important than a soldier life in the army.

If a soldier die , the first thing the military ask is his riffle because they believe that is the only way to get revenge.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by annayawchee: 6:52am On Sep 20, 2024
wahalawahala:
all this Igbo ppl sef lol
You're a fool.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Pearl1910: 6:54am On Sep 20, 2024
gfelo:
You know nothing about military ethics, itz unlawful to disarm a military personnel who is calm like shown in the video, infact they are lucky if truly he is a psych many of them would have fear dead
As if he is d only one with a gun there.
In the absence of Military Police, ur CO can give u a direct order to drop your arms, and if u refuse to obey he can command other soldiers to enforce the order.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Wickedlywicked: 7:01am On Sep 20, 2024
Ojiofor:
Those who are trying to disarm him by force did they follow due process?
It doesn’t work that way my friend. This is the military and disobeying your superior is a grave offense. He should at least obey first before anything else. He should be grateful because with the nonsense he did here, trust me, he would be gone already if it was before. Saying “who are you?” to your superior and he didn’t stop at cocking his gun but even shot it and you’re here ‘yarning’ dust. My appeal is that he is released by this beast shouldn’t be allowed to still work in the military. If he could do this to a superior officer, imagine what he would do to a ‘bloody civilian’ Make una stop to dey support nonsense.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Funflipper: 7:05am On Sep 20, 2024
Steve0979:
u don't disarm a military man using force,hence dere will will b collateral damage. d commanding officer wats rong so as the soldier in short all of una day mad including ebola tinibu
So you have to go down on your knees and beg to disarm an officer? Was it a junior officer that gave the order? That rebel is in serious trouble.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Funflipper: 7:13am On Sep 20, 2024
ajerimitan:
Any military personnel in uniform who is not well armed is half dead already. A well trained military man will never surrender his weapons without counting the cost. Not even at the command of a superior officer. It’s suicide. The law is kill until you are killed. He will easily risk a bullet to his head or straight to his heart than surrender his weapon
Your level of ignorance is out of this world.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Wickedlywicked: 7:15am On Sep 20, 2024
shegun1406:
You do not see anything wrong in the manner they want to take raffle from him right?
What happened to official means to communication in military ?
Ogbeni, nothing justifies his unruly conduct here. Even though the superior officer didn’t follow due process, the escalation wasn’t necessary tbh. Being obedient is the main foundation on which the military is built on. No military in the world condones defiant behavior. I was ‘blasting’ the NA when I first heard the news about his detainment but seeing this video, I can boldly say this guy is long gone. You still don’t know the magnitude of what you just watched.
Come to think of it, if this werey could open fire on his boss, who are you? Please stop defending rubbish if you want a sane society. The Nigerian military is not the Police force where superior officers aren’t respected.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Wickedlywicked: 7:18am On Sep 20, 2024
Funflipper:
So you have to go down on your knees and beg to disarm an officer? Was it a junior officer that gave the order? That rebel is in serious trouble.
Na you Dey mind them. Nigerians are too emotional for my liking. If the werey could do that to his oga, what then is the fate of a common civilian? He’s lucky that the army is now relatively soft these days otherwise, this boy would have gone missing without explanation undecided
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Lazenby007(m): 7:21am On Sep 20, 2024
Nigeria jagajaga
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by stuffs4me(m): 7:40am On Sep 20, 2024
Funkyswagzz:
Can't you see the way they rushed his gun. If it was you won't you feel threatened. The gun belongs to him why take take it by force without due process
The gun belongs to the military.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by ActiveFarms: 7:41am On Sep 20, 2024
chibnnodi:
A soldier rifle is more important than his life. Who are you to unarm him? They were all lucky that the bullets didn't hit anyone. There are processing to unarm a soldier, not with force and from behind, too.
There are processing to unarm a soldier, not with force and from behind, too.

You said it all.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by ActiveFarms: 7:43am On Sep 20, 2024
AuschwitzPrefec:
Speaking like a bloody civilian that you are.

When a CO or even a Squad leader demands you hand over the assigned rifle in your possession you do it.

The rifle does not bear his name on it but is the property of the Nigerian Navy which he signed off on from the armoury.

Even the khaki and every uniform bearing the insignia of the Nigerian Navy isn't he's property.

Following a dishonorable discharge , a personnel and even an officer is stripped of his or her uniform .

Nah gun he come dey claim as him property ?
Oga, he did not demand his weapon his handed. He was disarmed from behind. It is not an orderly manner that follows the right protocol, rest abeg
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Funkyswagzz(m): 7:47am On Sep 20, 2024
stuffs4me:
The gun belongs to the military.
Do you know there are law guiding them. He signed his life for that gun what they did is totally wrong there's no way you can justify that act.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by ActiveFarms: 7:48am On Sep 20, 2024
PastorFire:
Please watch the video again. The CO did not ordered that he should be disarmed. He said.. "Move him to the guardroom" and the erring soldier was shouting back at him.. "Who are you".. He even went in circles back to the CO.. It was a clear case of insubordination and mutiny because he attempted to fire the CO out of anger.
How do you move a soldier to a guard room without first disarming him ?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Afrojuju2017(m): 7:52am On Sep 20, 2024
Ojiofor:
Those who are trying to disarm him by force did they follow due process?
His C/O was standing there ans he was instructed to hand over his weapon.

To the best of my knowledge in the army the law is to obey first and complain after unless under the threat of death or grievous harm.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Afrojuju2017(m): 7:54am On Sep 20, 2024
Ojiofor:
If there was order from his commander to return his riffle I know he won't resist.
A commanding officer was standing right in front of them can't you see them all standing receiving instructions from him.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by stuffs4me(m): 7:56am On Sep 20, 2024
ezugegere:
The way they rushed him is very wrong. They put his life and even theirs in grave danger.
There should be a better way of doing that.
What if the guy was sick, I mean mentally sick or passing through some mental health challenges.
The CO was not wise at all!

The CO is the hero for removing a very dangerous personnel from the active duty.

If a navy rating could behave in an animalistic manner like this in his base among his colleagues and in front of a Lt. Col as his CO, How do you think he would behave outside his base in front of civilians?

That rating could kill people easily. You or your own family members could be victims of his madness
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Medipharm: 7:59am On Sep 20, 2024
wahalawahala:
again u don't know what it means... illiterate
You can't compare academically, no need going forward. Once again I call it inferiority complex on your part
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by id4sho(m): 8:04am On Sep 20, 2024
gfelo:
You know nothing about military ethics, itz unlawful to disarm a military personnel who is calm like shown in the video, infact they are lucky if truly he is a psych many of them would have fear dead
Aswearugad, Dead body for surplus 😳😳😳
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by stuffs4me(m): 8:05am On Sep 20, 2024
Funkyswagzz:
Do you know there are law guiding them. He signed his life for that gun what they did is totally wrong there's no way you can justify that act.
Stop being emotional. Seaman Abbas was a danger to himself and to others around him and that was why the CO gave the order for him to be disarmed. You do not have any single protocol to follow anymore if the soldier becomes a threat to himself and his colleagues or the general public. Abbas could have been gunned down and his friends knew it and that was why they were trying to prevent him from getting into more trouble by holding him.

What laws guide them that is above human lives.

The CO is the hero for removing a very dangerous personnel from the active duty.

If a navy rating could behave in an animalistic manner like this in his base among his colleagues and in front of a Lt. Col as his CO, How do you think he would behave outside his base in front of civilians?

That rating could kill people easily. You or your own family members could be victims of his madness.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Never4getU: 8:06am On Sep 20, 2024
Racoon:
This man is a dangerous psycho in Navy uniform. He gravely put the life of his colleagues @ risk.
Oga u don't know what u're saying. How do u disarm a seaman in such a ridiculous manner. What happened to him being ordered to surrender his ammunition instead of asking his colleague to disarm him.

It's very wrong of the senior officer to have conduct himself in such unprofessional manner
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by wahalawahala: 8:07am On Sep 20, 2024
Medipharm:
You can't compare academically, no need going forward. Once again I call it inferiority complex on your part
stop quoting me this Illiterate man
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by wahalawahala: 8:10am On Sep 20, 2024
annayawchee:
my father is a big foolish idiot
😹e pain u that much ? I agree with u anyway
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by stuffs4me(m): 8:10am On Sep 20, 2024
Thinkfree:
na it was a joint operation, but the army officer wanted to tell the police, civil defence,and navy that he is superior but the special naval officer thought him how things are done in a special operation... the naval big boys actually forsook there own. This cannot happen to an airforce special force because his superior will help him out of the mess triggered by the army idiots
So Airforce encourage insubordination and attempted murder on the Commanding Officer.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:10am On Sep 20, 2024
hamzeiy:
The weapon of a soldier is like an appendage attached to his hand, trying to disarm a soldier on active duty without due process was unprofessional of the senior officer.
He is trained to react like that if anyone tries to disarm him...
He is not in a combatant state, so that argument doesn't suffice. He refused to be disciplined by a senior officer that from all indications looking at the formation he was in before his crazy actions that officer had absolute authority over him and his peers even if that officer is from a different battalion.

The army man who tried to grab his weapon was wrong but it was simple, he knew the C/O had requested that he be disarmed why that order was given is not his business to ask in the army his only cause of action was to obey the instructions and then petition the correct authority for redress.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:12am On Sep 20, 2024
malvisguy212:
No, that is not the due process. Even if the commander order him to return the riffle and he did not sign off , he cannot return the riffle. First he must signed off before he can return the riffle.

The guy is not wrong!!
That is not true, he must return the riffle to the authority of the commanding officer who then becomes responsible for the care of that firearm.

Especially when it was done in public glare it's not like the commander tried to disarm him in a private environment.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:15am On Sep 20, 2024
crossbreedwears:
That's a normal thing. He will be dismissed from service
Dismissed from service is the least of his problems, he discharged his weapon unlawfully and risked the safety of many, he also refused to obey the instructions of a C/O
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by StJasper(m): 8:15am On Sep 20, 2024
Funkyswagzz:
The guy feels threatened I don't blame him for his actions
Are you alright?

Feels threatened by who?

Do you know anything about the military laws?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by chccho(m): 8:15am On Sep 20, 2024
ceejayluv:
So, what would have happened if he had complied to the disarming order? I'm very certain he wouldn't have been in as much trouble as this.
U make SENSE
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Kdon2: 8:15am On Sep 20, 2024
Racoon:
This man is a dangerous psycho in Navy uniform. He gravely put the life of his colleagues @ risk.
I said the same thing but some mofo feel he is a hero because of hate.
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