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Political Philosophy by anonimi(op):
A thread for nonpartisan political commentary.

Feel free to add yours.

fuckJones:
(A case study of Nigeria citizens & their elected oppressors).

During the Soviet dictatorship of Joseph stalin. He was a brutal dictator with mind of his own. On one fateful day, stalin came to Politburo meeting with a live chicken. Standing in front of audience, He started to pluck the feathers of the live chicken off one by one. The chicken trembled in pain, blood tricking out of its pores. It gave out grievous cries, but stalin being a cruel dictator continued without remorse plucking the feathers out until the chicken was completely Unclad. After which, he threw the chicken on the ground. The Unclad chicken was staggering in pain. stalin goes into his pocket and from his pockets, he took out some chicken food and started to throw it at the poor & hapless creature. The poor chicken in pain started eating and stalin started walking towards his seat. As he walked away, he kept dropping some feeds on the floor & the chicken followed him and sat feeding from his feet.

Joseph stalin then turned to members of his political party leadership. He said, "This chicken represents the people". "You must disempower them, brutalise them, beat them up, starve them and then leave them". "If you do this, go into your pocket & give them peanuts when they are in that helpless and desperate situation, they will blindly follow you for the rest of their life, worshiping you". "They will think you are a hero forever. They will forget that, you're responsible for their sorrowful situation in the first place." Breath taking, isn't it ?

Now! Take a look at all the people some Nigerians are busy defending on social media. Take a look at those they call their heroes. They are the same people who plunged Nigeria into the situation she is. They are the same people who are responsible for their predicaments. Did you see the numbers of people that throng to Saraki's House during this Sallah period to go collect peanuts? People trooping to Bola Ahmed Tinubu Foundation offices to collect branded One kilo bag of Rice & Noddles. Did you see the number of people of all ages who troop out to welcome Ex- convict James Ibori to South South! Do you see the number of handle mop following obi as if he is a seat? what of the one following dino malaye?

Your guess is as good as mine. Nigerians kill those they should defend and defend those they should kill! Pass to all your contacts & let your Political & Religion Leaders read, understand & digest.
Re: Political Philosophy by bestlary(m): 10:45am On Sep 22, 2024
Clear and balanced examination.
Re: Political Philosophy by Softmirror: 10:53am On Sep 22, 2024
Hungry and angry man philosophy. tongue
Re: Political Philosophy by vanitybutiwanti: 11:41am On Sep 22, 2024
Mr Thread creator You fail to understand that in Nigeria regardless of the party that wins people are the beneficiaries, me personally have resolved to stop voting in Nigeria unless I am a direct beneficiary of the candidates. Only fools vote in Nigeria without getting anything in return, you want me to vote for Obi, Tinubu or Asue who will get richer after being sworn in? If you like deceive yourselves, all politicians in Nigeria are thieves, they are no saint amongst them, you blame Tinubu for buying new cars yet all governors regardless of party affiliation also bought fleet of cars. Don't put yourself on the line if you wont be a multi millionaire or billionaire if a party candidate wins.

Politics is now bring infiltrated by corporate scammers with posh English offering to do heaven on earth, a clear testament to this fact is obaseki, who wanted to foist another crisp English speaking scammer.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 1:04pm On Sep 22, 2024
Softmirror:
Hungry and angry man philosophy. tongue
The type that is used in oyinbo and Asian countries to make us go there as voluntary slaves? Voluntarily unlike our brethren who we captured and sold into slavery for peanutshuh

sage:
http://www.leadershipnigeria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:the-vague-future-of-nigeria&catid=28:friday-column&Itemid=56


Lord Lugard, the former governor-general of Nigeria, in 1926, wrote his unfiltered thought about Nigerians. From his book, The Dual Mandates, come these excerpts: "In character and temperament, the typical African of this race-type is a happy, thriftless, excitable person, lacking in self-control, discipline, and foresight. Naturally courageous, and naturally courteous and polite, full of personal vanity, with little sense of veracity, fond of music and loving weapons as an oriental loves jewellery. His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future or grief for the past. His mind is far nearer to the animal world than that of the European or Asiatic, and exhibits something of the animals' placidity and want of desire to rise beyond the state he has reached.

"Through the ages, the African appears to have evolved no organised religious creed, and though some tribes appear to believe in a deity, the religious sense seldom rises above pantheistic animalism and seems more often to take the form of a vague dread of the supernatural. He lacks the power of organisation, and is conspicuously deficient in the management and control alike of men or business. He loves the display of power, but fails to realize its responsibility - he will work hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the courage of the fighting animal, an instinct rather than a moral virtue. In brief, the virtues and defects of his race -type are those of attractive children, whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as to an older and wiser superior and without envy. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future"


Guys lets discuss the thoughts of Lord Lugard. he had  a supremacist view obviously. But is he right in the way he describes Nigerians and Africans in general? How many of the issues that he raises are valid?

Letz get some responses
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op):
vanitybutiwanti:
Mr Thread creator You fail to understand that in Nigeria regardless of the party that wins people are the beneficiaries, me personally have resolved to stop voting in Nigeria unless I am a direct beneficiary of the candidates. Only fools vote in Nigeria without getting anything in return, you want me to vote for Obi, Tinubu or Asue who will get richer after being sworn in? If you like deceive yourselves, all politicians in Nigeria are thieves, they are no saint amongst them, you blame Tinubu for buying new cars yet all governors regardless of party affiliation also bought fleet of cars. Don't put yourself on the line if you wont be a multi millionaire or billionaire if a party candidate wins.

Politics is now bring infiltrated by corporate scammers with posh English offering to do heaven on earth, a clear testament to this fact is obaseki, who wanted to foist another crisp English speaking scammer.
Only fools are selfish AND myopic individuals who hypocritically want to live in a society that functions.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op):
TheBedWench:
The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States in the 20th century. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ("one drop" of black blood) is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms).

This concept became codified into the law of some states in the early 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste and later segregation. It is an example of  hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status, regardless of proportion of ancestry in different groups.[3]

The one-drop rule is defunct in law in the United States and was never codified into federal law.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op):
The often cited biography titled Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker, authored by Nigerian historian Oladipo Yemitan, paints her views regarding slave trading.

On one occasion, during her final sojourn in Abeokuta, she was alleged to have sold a young boy into slavery and was accused of it. When arraigned before Ogundipe Alatise over the matter, she reportedly explained: 'I have a large house-hold and I must feed them well. I need money to do that, that's why'.

— Oladipo. Yemitan, 'Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker'

Another section of Yemitan's Tinubu biography, referred to as the Amadie-Ojo Affair, captures a slave trading deal gone sour in 1853 (notably after the 1852 Treaty abolishing slavery in Lagos) wherein Tinubu tells another slave trader (Domingo Martinez) that "she would rather drown the slaves [20 in number] than sell them at a discount".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efunroye_Tinubu
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 11:55am On Oct 16, 2024
edet19892015:
Unless you understand your role in society, you can never make any meaningful contribution.

According to the Greeks, they are three types of people on Earth,
1. The idiots,
2. The tribesmen, and
3. The citizens.


Studies show only 10% of Africans are citizens.
The remaining 90% are either tribesmen or idiots.

1. When the Greeks used the word "Idiot", they did not use it as a curse word.
Idiots are people who just don’t care.
If they sit for exams, they will cheat.
If they are in government they will steal.

An idiot does not care at all, if he eats bananas he throws the peels anywhere instead of putting them in a trash bin.

IDIOTS won't attend monthly neighborhood meetings. They won't pay security dues. They won't contribute to community development. Even when they see or know about something that will harm others in the community they won't report it. When they see/know/have something that will benefit their community they won't share.

In fact, Idiots don't care to register for or vote in an election, yet they complain the most. If they register to vote, IDIOTS will sell their votes for peanuts.

According to the Greeks, some societies have more idiots than tribesmen and citizens.

2. The next set of people are "Tribesmen", these are people that look at everything from the point of view of their tribe.

These are people that believe in you only if you are part of their tribe.
It can be terrible to have a tribesman as a leader, he will alienate the rest.

When the Greeks talk about tribes, it’s not just about ethnicity, they also consider religion, gang membership, group membership, party membership and even cult membership as a tribe.

A great percentage of Africans are tribesmen, because they view everything from the point of view of their tribes. They trust only their tribesmen

3. The last group are "Citizens".
These are people who like to do things the right way.
They will respect traffic light rules even if no one is watching them.

They drive within speed limits.
They respect the laws, and won’t cheat in exams.
In government, they won’t steal.
They are compassionate and give to others to promote their well-being.

Citizens often promote projects that benefit everyone.
The Greeks called this group "The Citizens".

Some countries have more citizens than tribesmen and idiots, others have so many idiots.

A tribesman can become a citizen through orientation.
And an idiot can become a citizen by training and constant enforcement of the law.

But things fall apart if you elect an idiot or tribesman to lead you if he has not been reformed.

Where do you belong? Are you an idiot, a tribesman or a citizen? Reflect on your life.
Reflect about your immediate community, city, state and nation.

#EdetEdemAkpan #Share
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op):
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper?

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?
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The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op):
The migrant crisis in Libya and the Nigeria experience

JUNE 24, 2019

The drive for survival and for greener pastures has continued to force millions of West African young men and women to gamble with death in attempts to cross over to Europe and other parts of the world. This quest to escape poverty, hunger, unemployment and insecurity, among other reasons, caused a major segment of Nigeria’s population to seek alternatives for better livelihood prospects for themselves and their families.

Those seeking economic survival see irregular migration as the best alternative, given the difficulty and resources involved in migrating through regular and legitimate routes. In many instances, very few of the original number who set out on these dangerous journeys live to tell their stories. While many regularly drown in the Mediterranean Sea, many also die in the deserts, and others are sold as slaves in a modern slave market.

Most of the victims of this trade are from West Africa. Many of them leave home with expectations of getting to Europe and other destinations perceived to have better economic prospects for them, but they end up in the slave merchant nets in North Africa. The victims are put in camps and sold in open markets in Libya, while the international community watches in silence. The geographical location of Libya renders it a transit route for migrants journeying to Italy and many other parts of Europe.

https://www.accord.org.za/conflict-trends/the-migrant-crisis-in-libya-and-the-nigeria-experience/
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 2:24pm On Jan 29, 2025
“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events.

He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics.

The slowpoke doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”

― Bertolt Brecht
Re: Political Philosophy by givedemwotowoto:
First of all, the quoted post was written by a Tinubu supporter who also doubles as a tribal bigot. First Red Flag.

But ok he’s making sense so I kept reading, then boom, he inserted Peter Obi’s name in the midst of known criminals.

That tells all you need to know. This thread was stylishly disguised to de-market Peter Obi.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:41am On Jan 30, 2025
givedemwotowoto:
First of all, the quoted post was written by a Tinubu supporter who also doubles as a tribal bigot. First Red Flag.

But ok he’s making sense so I kept reading, then boom, he inserted Peter Obi’s name in the midst of known criminals.

That tells all you need to know. This thread was stylishly disguised to de-market Peter Obi.
What is the meaning of what you said, in the light of this thread below huh



https://www.nairaland.com/7277602/peter-obi-reference-thread
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 6:54am On Apr 27, 2025
leavegoodbehind:
STATUTORY FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999 provides in the Fourth Schedule the main functions of Local Governments in Nigeria as follows: –

(a)the consideration and the making of recommendations to a State Commission on Economic Planning or any similar body on:
(i) the economic development of the State, particularly in so far as the areas of authority of the Council and of the State are affected, and
(ii) proposals made by the said Commission or body;
(b) collection of rates, radio and television licences;
(c) establishment and maintenance of cemeteries, burial grounds and homes for the destitute or infirm;
(d) licensing of bicycles, trucks (other than mechanically-propelled trucks), canoes, wheel barrows and carts;
(e) establishment, maintenance and regulation of slaughter houses, slaughter slabs, markets, motor parks and public conveniences;
(f) construction and maintenance of roads, streets, street lightings, drains and other public highways, parks, gardens, open spaces, or such public facilities as maybe prescribed from time to time by the House of Assembly of a State;
(g) naming of roads and streets, and numbering of houses;
(h) provision and maintenance of public conveniences, sewage and refuse disposal;
(i) registration of all births, deaths and marriages;
(i) out-door advertising and hoarding;
(ii) movement and keeping of pets of all descriptions;
(iii) shops and kiosks;
(iv) restaurants, bakeries and other places for sale of food to the public,
(v) laundries, and
(vi) licensing, regulation and control of the sale of liquor.

Apart from these exclusive functions, the function of Local Governments shall include participation of such Councils in the government of a state as respects the following matters:
(a) the provision and maintenance of primary, adult and vocational education;
(b) the development of agriculture and natural resources other than the exploitation of minerals;
(c) the provision and maintenance of health services; and
(d) such other functions as may be conferred on a local Government Council by the House of Assembly of the State.

As provided for in the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, Local Governments have functions and responsibilities assigned.
Some of these functions are performed exclusively by the Local Government like the maintenance of cemeteries, markets and motor parks. On the other hand, some other functions and responsibilities are performed concurrently with the State Government. Among these concurrent functions are primary education, agriculture, health and any other functions that may be conferred on Local Government by the House of Assembly of the State.

As can be seen, these various functions and responsibilities of Local Governments are quite enormous and demanding. The tragedy of the situation is that Local Governments have very limited and circumscribed sources of revenue to enable them execute meaningfully and effectively the functions and responsibilities assigned to them.

In my local government at Ajeromi Ifelodun in Ajegunle, we have not felt the presence of local government at all, take for instance, the road from otto – wharf to Achakpo have never been maintained for as provided in the constitution, the question begging for an answer, is what do the Ajeromi Local Government do with money that go to them?

HOW IS YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT?, express your mind if indeed they are working now that you know their functions.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 7:30pm On May 04, 2025
Racoon:
The ranking placed Nigeria in 186th position, only after Haiti, among 187 countries of the world. Nigeria is the second country in the world with the lowest voter turnout, worse than war-ravaged Afghanistan and Libya, a new ranking by Picodi has shown.

The ranking placed Nigeria in 186th position, only after Haiti, among 187 countries of the world. Nigeria also ranked worst in Africa. Nigeria’s low voter turnout

PREMIUM TIMES had reported how Nigeria recorded a new low in voter turnout during the last general elections. With a national turnout of 29 per cent, a Premium Times analysis showed that the last election had the lowest participation rate in the country’s six decades of independence.

It further revealed that of the 93.4 million registered voters this year, 87.2 million people collected their Permanent Voters Card and the total number of actual voters on election day was only 24.9 million..The winner of the election, Bola Tinubu, had less than nine million votes, roughly 10 per cent of the total eligible voters.

Another analysis by this newspaper revealed that all the 18 candidates in Nigeria’s February elections received only 27.55 per cent of the total eligible votes.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/634921-voter-turnout-nigeria-ranks-worlds-second-worst-nation-report.html?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:13am On Jul 01, 2025
Slavery in Japan

Japanese slave women were even sold as concubines to Asian lascar and African crew members, along with their European counterparts serving on Portuguese ships trading in Japan, mentioned by Luis Cerqueira, a Portuguese Jesuit, in a 1598 document.

Japanese slaves were brought by the Portuguese to Macau, where some of them not only ended up being enslaved to Portuguese, but as slaves to other slaves, with the Portuguese owning Malay and African slaves, who in turn owned Japanese slaves of their own.

Hideyoshi was so disgusted that his own Japanese people were being sold en masse into slavery on Kyushu, that he wrote a letter to Jesuit Vice-Provincial Gaspar Coelho on 24 July 1587 to demand the Portuguese, Siamese (Thai), and Cambodians stop purchasing and enslaving Japanese and return Japanese slaves who ended up as far as India. Hideyoshi blamed the Portuguese and Jesuits for this slave trade and banned Christian proselytizing as a result.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Japan
Re: Political Philosophy by wirinet(m): 6:46am On Jul 27, 2025
anonimi:
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper?

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?
@
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The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/
I vehemently disagree with the redded quote and the whole article in general.

One of the core problems with capitalism is its overwhelming focus on wealth—particularly material wealth. It reduces the meaning and purpose of life to the relentless pursuit of material possessions. This fixation breeds greed, exploitation, moral decay, and ultimately undermines the very fabric of society.

Contrary to popular misconceptions, socialism is not about distributing wealth without first creating it. It's important to remember that original wealth—land, minerals, water, forests—comes from natural resources. A properly structured socialist system is about the equitable distribution of these resources, which are often collectively inherited. However, capitalism, driven by greed, has historically led a small group of people to invade, exploit, and even enslave others in order to claim these resources for themselves.

Interestingly, many of the most peaceful, stable, and morally grounded nations today are those with strong socialist principles.

Africa, for instance, did not begin with a capitalist model. Traditional African societies were deeply communal. Land and natural resources were shared equitably among tribes, clans, and families. There was a strong emphasis on mutual responsibility and cooperation. As a result, conflicts were relatively rare. But as capitalist ideals took root—especially through colonization and foreign influence—competition replaced cooperation. Today, we see not just inter-tribal conflicts, but family feuds over land and inherited property, reflecting the divisive nature of resource ownership under capitalism.

Even Christianity began on socialist—arguably even communist—foundations. Jesus, his disciples, and the early Christian community lived communally. Personal ownership was discouraged, and everything was held in common for the benefit of all. It was only later, under Roman influence and institutional religion, that capitalist doctrines began to creep in and shape the modern interpretation of Christianity.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:27am On Jul 27, 2025
wirinet:
I vehemently disagree with the redded quote and the whole article in general.

One of the core problems with capitalism is its overwhelming focus on wealth—particularly material wealth. It reduces the meaning and purpose of life to the relentless pursuit of material possessions. This fixation breeds greed, exploitation, moral decay, and ultimately undermines the very fabric of society.

Contrary to popular misconceptions, socialism is not about distributing wealth without first creating it. It's important to remember that original wealth—land, minerals, water, forests—comes from natural resources. A properly structured socialist system is about the equitable distribution of these resources, which are often collectively inherited. However, capitalism, driven by greed, has historically led a small group of people to invade, exploit, and even enslave others in order to claim these resources for themselves.

Interestingly, many of the most peaceful, stable, and morally grounded nations today are those with strong socialist principles.

Africa, for instance, did not begin with a capitalist model. Traditional African societies were deeply communal. Land and natural resources were shared equitably among tribes, clans, and families. There was a strong emphasis on mutual responsibility and cooperation. As a result, conflicts were relatively rare. But as capitalist ideals took root—especially through colonization and foreign influence—competition replaced cooperation. Today, we see not just inter-tribal conflicts, but family feuds over land and inherited property, reflecting the divisive nature of resource ownership under capitalism.

Even Christianity began on socialist—arguably even communist—foundations. Jesus, his disciples, and the early Christian community lived communally. Personal ownership was discouraged, and everything was held in common for the benefit of all. It was only later, under Roman influence and institutional religion, that capitalist doctrines began to creep in and shape the modern interpretation of Christianity.
Life is about balancing out different things.

Capitalism by itself is not a cure all system. There is a need to balance it out with some elements of socialism, such as free basic education and healthcare, along with progressive pricing of basic utilities like electricity and water.

However, the more socialist we are, the worse we are collectively, especially when we drift towards communism.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 9:34am On Jul 27, 2025
Atlantian:
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Socialism principles: All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
Neither could I.
Re: Political Philosophy by wirinet(m): 11:17am On Jul 27, 2025
anonimi:
Life is about balancing out different things.

Capitalism by itself is not a cure all system. There is a need to balance it out with some elements of socialism, such as free basic education and healthcare, along with progressive pricing of basic utilities like electricity and water.

However, the more socialist we are, the worse we are collectively, especially when we drift towards communism.
That's the message I have been trying to pass. Most capitalism proponents especially those from US makes out socialism as a form of evil, and capitalism as the answer to all socio economic problems.

There has to be a balance between the two systems. China realised this and moved from strict capitalism- communism to a very liberal form of capitalism that allows for private ownership of resources. In thirty years you can see the tremendous development.

Nigeria has elected to adopt the strictest form of capitalism, even stricter than the US. In the US, there are free public schools, even almost free public universities.
All Nigeria's resources are being left to private hands, most public social amenities have been abandoned. Water, electricity,basic health care and schools, have been left in private hands. Even public roads are being privatised. Nigerians enjoy zero public social services from the government.
Re: Political Philosophy by wirinet(m):
anonimi:
Atlantian post=44098058:
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Socialism principles: All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
Neither could I.
Very interesting story. I took time to read it and wrote a rebuttal.

This story, though catchy, is a gross misrepresentation of what socialism truly is.

1. The Flawed Assumption: Confusing Socialism with Communism

What the professor described is not socialism but a rigid, extreme form of communism —a system that erases individual effort by enforcing uniform outcomes. History, particularly the collapse of the Soviet Union, has shown us the pitfalls of such a system: namely, the absence of an equitable reward mechanism. When people are rewarded equally regardless of their input, motivation declines. That is indeed a flaw—but it’s a flaw of communism, not of socialism.

Socialism , in contrast, is a social and economic framework that ensures the equitable distribution of shared resources—like land, healthcare, and education—while still maintaining fair rewards based on individual contributions. It’s not about giving everyone the same outcome but about giving everyone a fair start and equal access to basic needs and opportunities.

2. Misapplication of Incentives

The professor’s experiment failed to account for human psychology. There were no meaningful stakes tied to the students' performance. Whether they passed or failed had no real consequence—no reward for excellence, no penalty for underperformance.

If the prize for an A was a million dollars or a guaranteed job at Google, students would absolutely strive to succeed—even under equalized conditions. Conversely, if the reward was linked to failing (say, a prestigious anti-academic award), everyone might deliberately aim to fail. Human beings—like all living organisms—are motivated by consequences. The absence of meaningful incentives in the experiment made the entire exercise irrelevant to real-world socialism.

3. Survival vs. Grades

Unlike real life, school tests don’t determine survival. Many students take courses under parental pressure or just for social reasons. Failing a test might not even matter to them. In contrast, failing to provide food, shelter, or healthcare in society has devastating consequences, not just for individuals but for the entire social structure.

Throughout history, collapsed civilizations were often brought down not by their wealthy elite but by the mass of impoverished, desperate people with nothing left to lose. The starving Gauls overran wealthy Roman outposts. Barbaric Viking raids destabilized Northern Europe. In today’s world, insurgent groups like Boko Haram and violent herders have created chaos in Nigeria—because extreme poverty and lack of opportunity create conditions for extremism, not peace.

4. The Real Weakness of Capitalism

While capitalism may reward innovation and hard work, its greatest weakness lies in how easily it allows millions to fall through the cracks. When too many people are poor, helpless, and excluded, the overall prosperity of a nation becomes meaningless. No matter how wealthy the top 1% is, a nation cannot function or remain peaceful when large swaths of its population lack access to basic needs.

That is where socialism offers a necessary correction—not to destroy wealth or remove personal incentive, but to ensure no one is too poor to live in dignity.

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Addressing the “5 Best Sentences:

Let’s briefly address the so-called 5 best sentences offered by the professor:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
False dichotomy. Progressive taxation and social programs don’t legislate the wealthy out of prosperity—they simply ensure everyone contributes fairly.

2. What one person receives without working for, another must work for without receiving.
This ignores systemic inequality and inherited privilege. Many wealthy individuals today inherited wealth they never worked for.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything it does not first take from somebody else.
That’s literally how all taxation works—including in capitalist societies. Roads, military, and public services are paid for this way.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
Actually, wealth circulation through spending and redistribution stimulates the economy more than hoarding it at the top.

5. When half the people believe they don’t have to work, and the other half stops working because they’re exploited, it’s the end of a nation.
Agreed—but this is exactly why unregulated capitalism fails too. Both ends—laziness and exploitation—are unsustainable.

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Conclusion

The professor’s experiment was not only flawed in design but also in logic. It misrepresented socialism as a rewardless, demotivating system—which it is not.
Socialism seeks balance : reward for effort and protection for the vulnerable. In a world of rising inequality and economic insecurity, understanding that difference is not just important—it’s urgent.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 6:38am On Jul 30, 2025
This is a religious issue but it is connected with politics since they have a symbiotic relationship even in traditional societies where monarchy is intertwined with religion.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49DAa8Xys_g?si=bnnymSZ8z5zb24Bm



Deuteronomy 14

22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year.
23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.
24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away),
25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.
26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.
27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.


28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns,
29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 7:52pm On Aug 03, 2025
A rat swallowed a diamond and the owner of the diamond contracted a man to kill the rat.

When the rat hunter arrived to kill the rat there were more than a thousand rats bunched up and one sitting by itself away from the pack. He killed the one by itself and that was the exact one that had swallowed the diamond.

The amazed owner of the diamond asked: How did you know it was that rat?

He responded: "Very easy
When idiots get rich they don't mix with others!!!"
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 3:51am On Aug 07, 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmF5lyvhrtA?si=foUCeGgOb1mRn5fC




The Traditional Social Contract Theory

The social contract theory is the most prominent account of authority in the last 400 years of philosophy and has as good a claim as any to being America’s theory of authority.

The theory holds that, at least in some countries, there is a contractual relationship between the government and its citizens. The contract requires the government to provide certain services for the population, notably protection from private criminals and hostile foreign governments. In return, citizens agree to pay their taxes and obey the laws.1

Some views of the social contract assign the government a larger role, perhaps including providing for the basic needs of indigent citizens, ensuring an equitable distribution of material resources, and so on.2 Whatever a particular theorist takes to be the state’s legitimate functions, the theorist will argue that the social contract both authorizes and obligates the state to perform those functions.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137281661_2
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 6:47am On Aug 18, 2025
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Re: Political Philosophy by Nobody: 11:36am On Oct 17, 2025
Palliatives

You must disempower them, brutalise them, beat them up, starve them and then leave them". "If you do this, go into your pocket & give them peanuts when they are in that helpless and desperate situation, they will blindly follow you for the rest of their life, worshiping you". "They will think you are a hero forever. They will forget that, you're responsible for their sorrowful situation in the first place." Breath taking, isn't it ?
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anonimi:
A thread for nonpartisan political commentary.

Feel free to add yours.
Re: Political Philosophy by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:54pm On Jun 19
Nigerians don't have the balls to kill anyone

They vote for scammers
anonimi:
A thread for nonpartisan political commentary.

Feel free to add yours.
Re: Political Philosophy by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:59pm On Jun 19
anonimi:
Only fools are selfish AND myopic individuals who hypocritically want to live in a society that functions.
only folks are not selfish oga

Think am well
Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 2:12am On Jun 20
MIKOLOWISKA:
only folks are not selfish oga

Think am well
If oyinbos and Asians are foolishly selfish then why would they attract us to japa to their countries where civil servants are well paid to make basic services and utilities available for everyone? Things like water and electricity supply, free education for all children, free basic healthcare for all residents, law and order that applies to everyone for securing their countries etc.

Have you heard anything about Enlightened Self Interest, ESI? Read about the concept and how much of it is reflected in Nigeria and other countries in Africa versus the countries of oyinbos and Asians.

Re: Political Philosophy by anonimi(op): 3:15am On Jun 20
MIKOLOWISKA:
Nigerians don't have the balls to kill anyone

They vote for scammers
Is there any worse scammer than Tinubu in Nigeria?

Who is this person who is a worse scammer than Tinubu huh

Someone who used his master plan to raise Lagos budget 100 times to N4.2 trillion in 27 years but failed to pay enough workers a good wage for water supply to all households. How can anyone be a worse scammer then Tinubu?

How can you increase tax burden on people forever ♾️♾️ to brag about IGR and budget growth but you fail to make water available and you fail to provide free education for all children huh




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5v-F81hNTs



Lanrelagboi:
Lagos has now crossed the 3 Trillion Naira annual budget mark. Crossed 2 Trillion in 2024.

Memory Lane: the first full-year Lagos State budget (Year 2000) in the 4th Republic was in the region of 40-something billion Naira. And it was described as “unprecedented” back then.
https://x.com/toluogunlesi/status/1877326708904181856?t=R_xycXnffVtjtiWwoGCzAQ&s=19
Re: Political Philosophy by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:54am On Jun 21
anonimi:
Is there any worse scammer than Tinubu in Nigeria?

Who is this person who is a worse scammer than Tinubu huh

Someone who used his master plan to raise Lagos budget 100 times to N4.2 trillion in 27 years but failed to pay enough workers a good wage for water supply to all households. How can anyone be a worse scammer then Tinubu?

How can you increase tax burden on people forever ♾️♾️ to brag about IGR and budget growth but you fail to make water available and you fail to provide free education for all children huh
.
When you were voting for free education and healthcare and security and electricity and subsidized payroll petrol it was sweeting you

You know they say you can only scam a scammer

No wonder you all vote for scammers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5v-F81hNTs






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