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In this video, we’re looking at the bible prophecy that explains why the Middle East and most Islamic countries know no peace.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlDe35K0hA

Contrary to Antichristian's claim, the Bible traces Islam's origin and characteristics.
The Bible doesn't mention Mohammad in any place to be the heir of Ishmael

MightySparrow:
Contrary to Antichristian's claim, the Bible traces Islam's origin and characteristics.
The Bible doesn't mention Mohammad in any place to be the heir of Ishmael

The Bible does not mention Islam! This is just one of your lies!
Yes, the Bible didn't mention Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam!

The Torah revealed to Moses and the Injeel revealed to Jesus did mention him.

It was already stated that Ishmael's descendants would be terrorists. Also where the 666 beast would come from. Mohammad who started his minstry between 600 -666 AD as predicted is the 666 beast.

AntiChristian:
The does not mention Islam! This is just one of your lies!
Yes, the Bible didn't mention Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam!

The Torah revealed to Moses and the Injeel revealed to Jesus did mention him.

See Father of lies! Where is the injeel?

After the death of Christ's Jewish disciples of the first century Apostacy scripturally known as the AntiChrist took over intimidated those who wanted to stick to Christ's teachings later all religions claiming Abrahamic took after the steps of the AntiChrist that's why they all ended up becoming killers of their neighbors including fellow worshipers!

MightySparrow:
See Father of lies! Where is the injeel?

Injeel left the world with Jesus!

Na you be the liar!

Oldman liar!

AntiChristian:
Injeel left the world with Jesus!

Na you be the liar!

Oldman liar!

What is the purpose of the injeel then?

MightySparrow:
What is the purpose of the injeel then?

For Jesus to preach!

Did he write it down or told anyone to do so?

AntiChristian:
For Jesus to preach!

Did he write it down or told anyone to do so?

Antichristian. Who then have a copy?


Mind you, Mohammad's stopped receiving revelation after a guy known as Waraqa (his revelator) died.

Mohammed did not receive what was in the injeel before the death of Waraqa?

MightySparrow:
Antichristian. Who then have a copy?

Of course the disciples he taught and some people he did made da'wah to will have copies! And this copies were spread everywhere!

Mind you, Mohammad's stopped receiving revelation after a guy known as Waraqa (his revelator) died.

This is another big lie!

Revelation ceased (Paused) but not didn't stop! I don't know why you Christians like to tell hidden lies like this!

Mohammed did not receive what was in the injeel before the death of Waraqa?

The Qur'an is a separate book different from the Injeel, Zabur, Torah and others! They are all speech of Allah for the people they were for!

No one told you Injeel was to be in the Qur'an!

AntiChristian:
Of course the disciples he taught and some people he did made da'wah to will have copies! And this copies were spread everywhere!

This is another big lie!

Revelation ceased (Paused) but not didn't stop! I don't know why you Christians like to tell hidden lies like this!

The Qur'an is a separate book different from the Injeel, Zabur, Torah and others! They are all speech of Allah for the people they were for!

No one told you Injeel was to be in the Qur'an!

Did Mohammad know the injeel?

MightySparrow:
Did Mohammad know the injeel?

He doesn't need it!

Injeel was for those Jesus was sent to!

We believe in it as an inspired message for the children of Israel that Jesus was sent to but it's useless for us!

AntiChristian:
He doesn't need it!

Injeel was for those Jesus was sent to!

We believe in it as an inspired message for the children of Israel that Jesus was sent to but it's useless for us!

So your prophet brought a new message from Allah that no Jews knew?

MightySparrow:
So your prophet brought a new message from Allah that no Jews knew?

The message of Injeel brought by Jesus was a new message too which confirms the Torah that came before it

And the Qur'an confirmed the books that were revealed before it.

AntiChristian:
The message of Injeel brought by Jesus was a new message too which confirms the Torah that came before it

And the Qur'an confirmed the books that were revealed before it.

The book mohammed didn't know?

MightySparrow:
The book mohammed didn't know?

Does he need to know it?

[quote author=AntiChristian post=132200743]Does he need to know it?[/quote

All his prophethood was directed at] criticizing and how Jews with Christianis would be annihilated.

So he needed to know the content of what he condemned.

MightySparrow:
All his prophethood was directed at] criticizing and how Jews with Christianis would be annihilated.

So he needed to know the content of what he condemned.

Why are you always telling lies like this?

For the first 40 years of his life he didn't mention anything Christianity or Jew!

The last 23 years of his life was with Prophethood! And he fought idolatry and polytheism mostly!

You just keep telling lies everyday without apology!

We love to insult Islam at any given opportunity, but Muslims are a thousand times more charitable than Christians.
We are insulting Islam now but we hypocritically or ignorantly forget that in medieval Europe, Christians committed atrocities and massacres all in the name of converting or removing apostasy.
The notorious Spanish Inquisition of 1 November 1478 comes to mind.
Am not talking of the Portuguese and Roman Inquisitions.

AntiChristian:
Why are you always telling lies like this?

For the first 40 years of his life he didn't mention anything Christianity or Jew!

He was lost, he was a pagan. He was deep into idolatry and was yet to have encounter with the jinn that pinned him down thrice in the cave!

The last 23 years of his life was with Prophethood! And he fought idolatry and polytheism mostly!

- and he married a 6-year old
- he permitted mutta aka prostitution
- he snatch the wife of his adopted son
-he copied the Jews and the Christians but when they exposed his falsehood, he started killing them
-he continued to curse the Jews and the Christians even at his point of death-
-he was poisoned and lived an agonizing life

All these happened in the last 23years of his life

AntiChristian:
Why are you always telling lies like this?

For the first 40 years of his life he didn't mention anything Christianity or Jew!

The last 23 years of his life was with Prophethood! And he fought idolatry and polytheism mostly!

You just keep telling lies everyday without apology!

Why would Allah ask Mohammad to put chains on the necks of non - Muslims to punish them for not believing in Mohammed?


He also told Mohammed to kill Jews and Christians. Is that why Israel is hated today?

Augustine2244:
We love to insult Islam at any given opportunity, but Muslims are a thousand times more charitable than Christians.
We are insulting Islam now but we hypocritically or ignorantly forget that in medieval Europe, Christians committed atrocities and massacres all in the name of converting or removing apostasy.
The notorious Spanish Inquisition of 1 November 1478 comes to mind.
Am not talking of the Portuguese and Roman Inquisitions.

Sure. Gotta fall in love with those charitable bomb detonations, stoning and beheading of folks. Nothing can be more charitable than those.

advocatejare:
He was lost, he was a pagan. He was deep into idolatry and was yet to have encounter with the jinn that pinned him down thrice in the cave!


- and he married a 6-year old
- he permitted mutta aka prostitution
- he snatch the wife of his adopted son
-he copied the Jews and the Christians but when they exposed his falsehood, he started killing them
-he continued to curse the Jews and the Christians even at his point of death-
-he was poisoned and lived an agonizing life

All these happened in the last 23years of his life

AntiChristian a.k.a AbuTwins come and finish what you started

AntiisIam:
AntiChristian a.k.a AbuTwins come and finish what you started

He has been exposed!

AntiChristian:
He doesn't need it!

Injeel was for those Jesus was sent to!

We believe in it as an inspired message for the children of Israel that Jesus was sent to but it's useless for us!

AntiChristian:
The Bible does not mention Islam! This is just one of your lies!
Yes, the Bible didn't mention Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam!

The Torah revealed to Moses and the Injeel revealed to Jesus did mention him.

You see how easy it is to catch islamists in their lies.
You said Muhammad does not know injeel but you somehow know who is mentioned and who is not mentioned in the injeel.
Can you tell us how you came about this knowledge when you've never read or seen the injeel

MightySparrow:
Why would Allah ask Mohammad to put chains on the necks of non - Muslims to punish them for not believing in Mohammed?

When you make claims try and give a referenced proof to show you are not telling lies!

He also told Mohammed to kill Jews and Christians. Is that why Israel is hated today?

When you make claims try and give a referenced proof to show you are not telling lies!

Kukutenla:
You see how easy it is to catch islamists in their lies.
You said Muhammad does not know injeel but you somehow know who is mentioned and who is not mentioned in the injeel.
Can you tell us how you came about this knowledge when you've never read or seen the injeel

It was revealed in the Qur'an by the same Allah who revealed the Injeel and the Torah!
Anything you can't process in your brain is either foolish or a lie!

Allah says in the Noble Qur'an(interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e. Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: ‘This is plain magic’” [al-Saff 61:6]

“Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e. Muhammad) whom they find written with them in the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)— he commands them for Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden); he allows them as lawful At-Tayyibaat (i.e. all good and lawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khabaa’ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allah’s Covenant with the children of Israel), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad), honour him, help him, and follow the light (the Quran) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful” [al-A’raaf 7:157]

AntiChristian:
When you make claims try and give a referenced proof to show you are not telling lies!


When you make claims try and give a referenced proof to show you are not telling lies!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOyV0DZuKOE?si=LCmD0r_NyBoCYftA

AntiChristian:
It was revealed in the Qur'an by the same Allah who revealed the Injeel and the Torah!
Anything you can't process in your brain is either foolish or a lie!

Allah says in the Noble Qur'an(interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e. Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: ‘This is plain magic’” [al-Saff 61:6]

“Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e. Muhammad) whom they find written with them in the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)— he commands them for Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden); he allows them as lawful At-Tayyibaat (i.e. all good and lawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khabaa’ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allah’s Covenant with the children of Israel), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad), honour him, help him, and follow the light (the Quran) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful” [al-A’raaf 7:157]

Well, this is another case of the Quran failing itself again. So if the Quran claims what is in the injeel, can you quote what chapter or verse of the injeel that particular passage is where Eesa son of Miriam said Ahmad is coming after him? It is basic in human scholarly research that when you quote from a book, you give reference of the book. So since you have shown us that Eesa son of Miriam quoted the Injeel in the Quran, clearly show us what part of the Injeel was quoted in that quran. This request is not strange. Everywhere the Old Testament (Torah and the Prophets) was quoted in the New Testament, the reference is there today for you to refer to. So I'll be waiting for your response.

Secondly, is Eesa son of Miriam same as Jesus son of Mary? Because Jews in his time don't call God "Allah" as the quran is claiming here. Rather, they use Elohim to refer to God. So I wonder how a Jew will refer to God as "Allah" when speaking to his fellow Jews. Jews don't speak Arabic to each other or do they now?

MightySparrow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOyV0DZuKOE?si=LCmD0r_NyBoCYftA

That's someone's video!

Do you want me to go bring you videos too?

Bring your proofs with references here!

Kukutenla:
Well, this is another case of the Quran failing itself again. So if the Quran claims what is in the injeel, can you quote what chapter or verse of the injeel that particular passage is where Eesa son of Miriam said Ahmad is coming after him? It is basic in human scholarly research that when you quote from a book, you give reference of the book. So since you have shown us that Eesa son of Miriam quoted the Injeel in the Quran, clearly show us what part of the Injeel was quoted in that quran. This request is not strange. Everywhere the Old Testament (Torah and the Prophets) was quoted in the New Testament, the reference is there today for you to refer to. So I'll be waiting for your response.

The Injeel doesn't exist anywhere in the world! So there's no need to quote anything! And as regards your claim of scholarly research and quoting the reference of a book, where was this ever used in the New testament when Jesus was quoting the old testament books like

In Mathew 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” This is a copy from Deuteronomy 8:3 - He humbled you, and in your hunger He gave you manna to eat, which neither you nor your fathers had known, so that you might understand that man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of the LORD.

Another one is in Mathew 4:7 “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” - From Exodus 17:2 and Deut. 6:16. Did Jesus sinned by not stating the reference?

And not all reference quoted in the new testament is in the Bible you have today! That's not entirely true as Paul did quote off-Bible in Romans 11:8 and Romans 10:6-8. Then the argument starts about Masoretic or LXX manuscript.

Lastly, Injeel is not Bible according to Paul, Matthew and others! It is the revelation of Allah to Jesus son of Mary!

Secondly, is Eesa son of Miriam same as Jesus son of Mary? Because Jews in his time don't call God "Allah" as the quran is claiming here. Rather, they use Elohim to refer to God. So I wonder how a Jew will refer to God as "Allah" when speaking to his fellow Jews. Jews don't speak Arabic to each other or do they now?

Use your spectacles! It is Eesa son of MARYAM NOT MIRIAM!

Jesus didn't bear Jesus in his time! In fact Jesus was formed decades after the death of Jesus. Yet you call him Jesus now!
Are you an hypocrite?