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| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:55am On Oct 01, 2024 |
Emusan:The highlighted is what i want you to clarify. Which religion do you refer to as "BROTHERS" since you can't present any group that's working together as one body! ![]() |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 9:58am On Oct 01, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:So, you're blind to see that since and you said the discussion is over ![]() Answer my questions first before you clarify what you have in mind. |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:24am On Oct 01, 2024 |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 10:25am On Oct 01, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:ANd you want to clarify what after OVER? ![]() This has been on auto reply "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." - NWT However, brothers, concerning the PRESENCE of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him... Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it(THAT DAY) will not come unless the apostasy(singular) comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god. - NWT Who was this man of LAWLESSNESS that was so great that nobody knows anything about before Jesus presence happened in 1914? Have these scripture already fulfilled? |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:27am On Oct 01, 2024 |
Emusan:Over! ![]() |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:29am On Oct 01, 2024 |
Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914! ![]() |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 10:31am On Oct 01, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: This has been on auto reply "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." - NWT However, brothers, concerning the PRESENCE of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him... Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it(THAT DAY) will not come unless the apostasy(singular) comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god. - NWT Who was this man of LAWLESSNESS that was so great that nobody knows anything about before Jesus presence happened in 1914? Have these scripture already fulfilled? |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:33am On Oct 01, 2024 |
Discussion is OVER! ![]() Emusan: |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 10:36am On Oct 01, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:This has been on auto reply "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." - NWT However, brothers, concerning the PRESENCE of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him... Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it(THAT DAY) will not come unless the apostasy(singular) comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god. - NWT Who was this man of LAWLESSNESS that was so great that nobody knows anything about before Jesus presence happened in 1914? Have these scripture already fulfilled? |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:37am On Oct 01, 2024 |
Jesus returned in the year 1914 and the man of LAWLESSNESS (CHRISTENDOM) who has been since the death of the last apostle was exposed! ![]() |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 11:13am On Oct 01, 2024*. Modified: 11:18am On Oct 05, 2024 |
Evidence that Jesus hasn't returned as found from the scripture using the perverted Watchtower translation called NWT. "For this is what we tell you by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death; because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in cloudsw to meet the Lordx in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord." - NWT "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." - NWT "However, brothers, concerning the PRESENCE of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him... Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it(THAT DAY) will not come unless the apostasy(singular) comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god." - NWT Verse 15 says "that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord..." Which means TRUE BELIEVERS will be on earth till Jesus comes PHYSICALLY IN THE AIR. Understand that Watchtower teaches that NO TRUE BELIEVERS exist on earth since the death of the first century Christians until when Russell started his movement before Jesus bought it from him (a claim with no scriptural backing), fact from the scripture is that Jesus only BOUGHT THE HIS SAINTS WITH HIS OWN BLOOD. ALSO, The man of LAWLESSNESS is a SINGLE PERSON as stated above in the scripture in plain English Jesus can't come in 1914 since ONLY GOD KNOWS THE DAY OF HIS RETURN and that will be witnessed by many. |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 11:21am On Oct 01, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com The Harp of God went into great detail to explain God's generosity in saving the majority of humankind, to be educated in this new system of things. After referencing Isaiah 35:4-6 to describe life in this earthly New System, it went on to say; "When these great miracles begin to be performed in the earth, then the most skeptical, it is to be hoped, will believe that the Lord Jesus reigns." The Harp of God p.331 Page 333 describes God's promise to Noah to never again smite "every living thing" as proof Armageddon will not result in a great human slaughter. "The majority of mankind practice unrighteousness" according to page 334, and these are the ones that will be given the opportunity to learn to practice righteousness during the reign of the Messiah. This was a fair concept that showed God's love and reasonableness towards humankind. Current Misapplication The Proclaimers book properly indicates that early Bible Students believed the majority of worldly people would survive Armageddon. "[Bible Students] Understood that people then living-mankind in general-had the opportunity to survive right into the time of restitution and that they would then be educated in Jehovah's requirements for life. If obedient, they would gradually attain to human perfection. If rebellious, they would, in time, be destroyed forever." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.163 More often though, the Watchtower misleadingly indicates that the teaching of "millions now living" was overoptimism, as if the teaching back then coincided with the current doctrine that only Jehovah's Witnesses would be saved onto earth as part of the Great Crowd. |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:20pm On Oct 01, 2024 |
Jesus returned in the year 1914! Matthew 24:7-14 |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:09am On Oct 02, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com "The "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" slogan applied only to the "great crowd" of "other sheep," mentioned in the Scriptures at Revelation 7:9 and John 10:16, whose destiny is an earthly paradise." Watchtower 1963 May 15 p.294 "In the early 1920's, a featured public talk presented by Jehovah's Witnesses was entitled "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." This may have reflected overoptimism at that time. But today that statement can be made with full confidence." Watchtower 1997 Jan 1 p.11 "This must be the class of persons that are often described as 'the millions now living that will never die'." Today, it is thrilling actually to see millions of these being marked for preservation, as they put on the true Christian personality, in a dedicated relationship to Jehovah through Christ Jesus. ... Presented at that time was conclusive proof identifying the "great crowd" of Revelation 7:9 with the Lord's "other sheep" of John 10:16, with the Jehonadab class, with those marked in the forehead for survival, with the millions now living who will never die, and with "the sheep"... " Watchtower 1985 Mar 1 p.14 These statements are complete falsehoods. Rutherford's message was the very opposite of what these articles claim. He was not preaching that millions of Watchtower followers were never to die, in fact the few thousand Bible Students all expected to die and go to heaven, as either the Little Flock or Great Crowd. At that time, the teaching was that the Great Crowd would go to heaven. The "Millions" that Rutherford was referring to who would never die were the rest of humankind alive at that time. The dishonesty that Watchtower displays is even more disturbing when considering the context of the Watchtower 1963 May 15 p.294. This quote is part of an article entitled "Taking Liberties with The Truth," which criticises people that misrepresent what Jehovah's Witnesses believe. |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:24am On Oct 03, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com Shifting Blame It is reprehensible that from the moment Rutherford's prediction proved wrong (and continuing to this day) the Governing Body shifted the blame for the false expectation away from themselves and onto the members. "It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion; besides it is still shortly after 1925." Watch Tower 1926 Jul 1 p.196 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not so state." Watch Tower 1926 Aug 1 p.232 "Instead of its being considered a 'probability,' they read into it that it was a 'certainty'." Yearbook 1975 p.146 "Ever since the 1870's, Bible Students had been serving with a date in mind - first 1914, then 1925. Now they realized that they must serve for as long as Jehovah wishes." Watchtower 1993 Nov 1 p.12 "On the basis of what was said there, many hoped that perhaps the remaining ones of the little flock would receive their heavenly reward by 1925. … Though mistaken, they eagerly shared it with others." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.632 Rather than accept responsibility for stumbling followers with their false 1925 teachings, Watchtower derogatively describes these ones as chaff. "Although these tests resulted in a sifting and some blew away like chaff when wheat is winnowed, others remained firm." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.633 Current Watchtower comments about 1925, such as in Proclaimers, attempt to whitewash the failure, or shift the blame to the members. However, on one occasion, Rutherford candidly made the following admission; “Regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925, he once confessed to us at Bethel, “I made an ass of myself.”” Watchtower 1984 Oct 1 p.24 |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:14pm On Oct 03, 2024 |
In the year 1914 Jesus returned to restructure his group! |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:14am On Oct 04, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com Importance Downplayed Proclaimers deceptively claims that the failure of 1925 affected just a small minority. "The year 1925 came and went. Some abandoned their hope. But the vast majority of the Bible Students remained faithful.” Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.78 We have already seen from Watchtower statistics that over half left the organisation. An interesting tactic that downplays the importance is seen in the following quote. It is admitted that attendance dropped "in France and Switzerland", which misleadingly makes it seem other countries were not equally affected. "But some of their time calculations and the expectations that they associated with these gave rise to serious disappointments. Following 1925, meeting attendance dropped dramatically in some congregations in France and Switzerland." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.633 Similar intellectual dishonesty can be identified in the 1980 Yearbook, which misquotes from the Watchtower of 1926 in an attempt to downplay the sentiment of 1925. Notice how only half a sentence is quoted, with a full stop replacing a semi-colon. Yearbook 1980 p.62 "Indicative of this testing was the question meeting held by Brother Rutherford during the Basel, Switzerland, assembly, which took place May 1-3, 1926. The report on this convention stated: Question: Have the ancient worthies returned? Answer: Certainly they have not returned. No one has seen them, and it would be foolish to make such an announcement. It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion." Watchtower 1926 Jul 1 p.196 "Question: Have the ancient worthies returned? Answer: Certainly they have not returned. No one has seen them, and it would be foolish to make such an announcement. It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion; besides it is still shortly after 1925. There is no good reason why we should expect the ancient worthies to return until the church is complete and the work of the church on earth is done." |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:32am On Oct 04, 2024 |
The year 1914! |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:41am On Oct 05, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com When mentioning the title of the 1918 lectures, a 2010 Watchtower uses the word "may" instead of "will", despite including a scanned image of a newspaper advertisement that used the word "will" in the title. "The anointed followers of Christ have been extending the invitation since as far back as 1918. In that year, the public talk entitled “Millions Now Living May Never Die” offered hope that many will gain life in a paradise earth after the battle of Armageddon." Watchtower 2010 Feb 15 pp.15-16 Using the word "may" deceptively covers over the absolute conviction Rutherford was implanting in his followers that the new system would arrive in 1925.
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| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 8:30am On Oct 06, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com Rutherford's Defining Prophecy The 1925 teaching seems to have originated between 1914 and 1916, whilst Russell was still living, but without his consent. In 1916 the Watch Tower quoted a letter asking; DEARLY BELOVED PASTOR:… A sister recently arrived from --- tells us that the Class there are teaching that the church must not expect to be glorified until 1925, and that this is your thought;…" Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888 Russell replied; "Our kindest thought must be that they are not giving much head to its teachings. Otherwise they would know from its columns that we are not looking forward to 1925, nor to any other date." Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888 Shortly after Russell's death, Rutherford introduced 1925 as doctrine. Whether this originated with Rutherford of some other person, this became Rutherford's defining prophecy, as he used it to rebuild Watchtower membership after the failure and disappointment of 1914. However, it was the failure of 1925 that resulted in even more important consequences for today, as it led to Rutherford embarking on a dramatic overhaul of Watchtower doctrine, and distancing his followers from Russell. |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:22am On Oct 06, 2024*. Modified: 8:38am On Oct 09, 2024 |
The year Jesus was enthroned in heaven! |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:32am On Oct 07, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com Following the failure of 1925, almost all of Russell's time prophecy predictions were discarded by Rutherford. Furthermore, it was stated that between 1918 and 1919 Jesus cleansed the Watchtower Society, in effect implying that the time of Russell was one of uncleanness, and it was under Rutherford that Jesus chose the Organization as his sole provision for salvation. Rutherford distanced his followers from other Christians by stating most of Christendom's symbols and holidays were pagan. Use of the word Jehovah began to be emphasised (see God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached p.288; Proclaimers p.152), leading to the name change of Watchtower followers from Bible Students to Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931. Finally, in 1935 the great crowd was moved from heaven to earth, to become the sole survivors of Armageddon. These changes made it simple to introduce a concept of "narrow salvation," the concept that only a handful of the world were deserving salvation. Conveniently, survivors now had to belong to one earthly Organization, the Watchtower Society. God was prepared to kill billions of people, most that have never even heard of the Watchtower Organization. The Bible explains that Jesus Ransom was for all mankind, even the ungodly. Romans 5:6 "For, indeed, Christ, while we were yet weak, died for ungodly men at the appointed time …" 2 Corinthians 5:14 "For the love the Christ has compels us, because this is what we have judged, that one man died for all …" Rutherford's post 1925 belief structure removed the value of Jesus sacrifice from "all mankind" and placed his followers alone amongst the living as worthy of its benefits. This unfortunate view eliminates most of the value of Jesus sacrifice for those alive at Armageddon and paints a cruel and unjust God. This viewpoint cannot be justified by reason or Scripture, yet is common amongst fundamentalist religious groups, due to being an effective way to encourage membership and prevent defection. "Millions now living will never die" had its first failure in 1925 when the earthly return of Abraham failed to materialise. Time has proven this prophecy false beyond doubt. In 2017 there were less than one million people still alive that were on earth when Rutherford made his bold statement, with an estimate of only 450,000 centenarians throughout the earth.
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| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 8:29am On Oct 09, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com 1975 - Watchtower Quotes From 1966 to 1975, the Watchtower regularly implied that Armageddon would arrive in 1975. However, ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses about this date and they will invariably deny there ever being such statements. The following exhaustive list of quotes show Watchtower left little to the imagination regarding 1975. In 1980, Watchtower admitted "considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975" from information printed in its publications. "With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. ... Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility." Watchtower 1980 Mar 15 p.17 Regular implications that 1975 would bring Armageddon resulted in many Jehovah's Witnesses firmly believing this was going to be the end. The growth rate of publishers before and after 1975 proves the significance of 1975 for Jehovah's Witnesses and the affect of Armageddon's failure to eventuate at that time. |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:38am On Oct 09, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:13am On Oct 10, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com The 2017 Regional Convention video "Don't Give Up," whilst careful not to mention 1975, refers to it when saying: "I never thought this system would last so long, and I certainly never thought I would be a grandfather. ... when I was about your age, I had just become a new father. ... years later another test came our way, you see, back then some were looking to a certain date as signifying the end of this old system of things." There can be no denying the sensational results of the 1975 teaching when comparing the conversion rate of Bible Studies prior to and after 1975. In 1974 a high of over 1 in 5 Bible studies progressed to baptism, compared with just 1 in 30 since the year 2000. 1975 Watchtower Quotes The idea that 1975 would culminate in the end of the world was introduced in 1966. "The published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man's creation as 4026 B.C.E. According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E. So six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation. So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence. How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants! This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ. It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence." Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966 pp.26-30 |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:37am On Oct 11, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com "Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975. It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfilment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end"." Awake! 1966 Oct 8 pp.19-20 "It did not take the brothers very long to find the chart beginning on page 31, showing that 6,000 years of man's existence end in 1975. Discussion of 1975 overshadowed about everything else. "The new book compels us to realize that Armageddon is, in fact, very close indeed," said a conventioner. Surely it was one of the outstanding blessings to be carried home!" .. Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah's witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don't any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that." Watchtower 1966 Oct 15 pp.629,631 In 1967, Watchtower wrote that "sudden death" was "only a few short years ahead of us" and to come within the generation that had seen both world wars. "the danger of sudden death is staring you in the face. ... That is exactly the case with the warning that we speak of here, and there are reasons why it can truly be said to be the most urgent warning ever given. ... It is to come within the generation that has already seen two world wars and it is only a few short years ahead of us." Watchtower 1967 Apr 15 pp.243-244 |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:16am On Oct 12, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com Similar comments flowed through the Watchtower during the late nineteen sixties, showing that the concept Armageddon would arrive in 1975 was encouraged, with terms such as "there is only 6 years left" used as a count down to the end. "Just think, brothers, there are only about ninety months left before 6,000 years of man's existence on earth is completed. Do you remember what we learned at the assemblies last summer? The majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out, and there are no resurrection hopes for those that are destroyed then." Kingdom Ministry 1968 Mar p.4 "The immediate future is certain to be filled with climactic events, for this old system is nearing its complete end. Within a few years at most the final parts of Bible prophecy relative to these "last days" will undergo fulfilment." Watchtower 1968 May 1 p.272
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| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 7:51am On Oct 13, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com "Do we know that the seventh year from now will conclude the 6,000th year since Adam was created? And if we live to that year 1975, what should we expect to happen?" Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.488 "WHAT about all this talk concerning the year 1975? Lively discussions, some based on speculation, have burst into flame during recent months among serious students of the Bible. Their interest has been kindled by the belief that 1975 will mark the end of 6,000 years of human history since Adam's creation. The nearness of such an important date indeed fires the imagination and presents unlimited possibilities for discussion. 2 But wait! How do we know their calculations are correct? What basis is there for saying Adam was created nearly 5,993 years ago? Does the one Book that can be implicitly trusted for its truthful historical accuracy, namely, the Inspired Word of Jehovah, the Holy Bible, give support and credence to such a conclusion? 35 One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man's existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows , neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the "day and hour"! 36 Even if one cannot see beyond 1975, is this any reason to be less active? The apostles could not see even this far; they knew nothing about 1975. All they could see was a short time ahead in which to finish the work assigned to them." Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.494 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975? "Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ. If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth. It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative “day.” Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the “sixth day,” which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam’s 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or “day” ended, and how long Adam lived into the “seventh day.” And yet the end of that sixth creative “day” could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam’s creation. It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years." Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.499 "The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the "last days" have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God." Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.13
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| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 7:51am On Oct 15, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com "Bible chronology which indicates that Adam was created in the fall of the year 4026 B.C.E. would bring us down to the year 1975 C.E. as the date marking 6,000 years of human history with yet 1,000 years to come for Christ's Kingdom rule. So whatever the date for the end of this system, it is clear that the time left is reduced, with only approximately six years left until the end of 6,000 years of human history." Watchtower 1970 May 1 p.273 In the Awake! 1971 October 8, a timeline was presented with the caption "As we near the end of 6,000 years of human history in the mid-1970's there is the thrilling hope of a grand relief." In the timeline the "Millennial reign of Jesus Christ" starts on the six thousandth year.
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| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:58am On Oct 15, 2024 |
In the year 1914 Jesus began ruling in heaven! |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 7:38am On Oct 16, 2024 |
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com Watchtower was still promoting such expectations in 1975. During an Assembly part on February 10th, 1975 in Los Angeles, Fred Franz referred to Live Everlasting Life in Freedom of the Sons of God, saying: "And then if we turn to page 35 we are starting to see the year nineteen hundred and seventy five, where we actually are. And, what does it say with regard to 1975? It says, the end, now notice this, the end of the six one thousand year day of man's existence in early autumn. And then it carries us beyond that, beyond this year, the next date is 2075. So you see, we haven't much left till this year 1975. It going to end at sundown of September the 5th, and that immediately after September the the 5th, why the millennial kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ must begin in order to fulfil the final thousand years of God's great seven creative days, and they're expecting the great tribulation to occur and the destruction of Babylon the Great and the annihilation of all the political systems of this world and then the binding of Satan and his demons and their abyssing to occur before this year is ended, this year nineteen hundred and seventy five, and immediately thereafter the thousand year reign of the Lord Jesus Christ to begin. Now that is all it says about the year 1975. (Audience applauses.)" Watchtower 1975 May |
| Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:02pm On Nov 22, 2024 |
Jesus was enthroned in heaven! |
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