₦airaland Forum

Evercurious:
He has picked his battle and obviously doing well in it

Goodluck to him then.....

Lithiumite:
Goodluck to him then.....

If you reside in PH or any where in Rivers, you LL know that this election is the calmest and most peaceful ever.. No police, no noise.. Just go and vote..

Meanwhile, your allegiance ought to be based on worthy attributes and not to lawless nonentities nor for the highest bidder...

Evercurious:
If you reside in PH or any where in Rivers, you LL know that this election is the calmest and most peaceful ever.. No police, no noise.. Just go and vote..

Meanwhile, your allegiance ought to be based on worthy attributes and not to lawless nonentities nor for the highest bidder...

I am not from rivers state but I won't fail to be on the side of reason ....fubara needs to err on the side of caution,the way he is going about this isn't in his best interest,you can't fight everyone you think his friends with Wike.

You need tact and intelligence to win this and not chest beating and insults,I personally do not see any reason why LG elections shouldn't hold.

Lithiumite:
Where were you when the president intervened and even gave fubara a lifeline and that's why he is still gov today .....but what did fubara do,he spat in everyone's faces and beat his chest that he is king Kong!! Only a fool makes enemies in the wrong places.

Mr president son, how did he spat on everyone faces, why did wike bent on frustrating his governance, is that how ameachi frustrate wike when he was there...why is it difficult for your president to caution wike and allow fubara to run his administration as he pleases...una just like to defend rubbish

zoedew:
My answer to your question is that the law envisages lawful obedience to the order of court and statute. You must obey the order of court in the manner provided for doing so. The Local Government Chairman the Governor seeks to put in place will not have FG and RMFAC recognition with the implication that they will not have access to funds meant for their LGs. The Governor can funnel his humongous security votes to run the LGs but that will weaken him politically as it would be a huge leak in his war chest prepping for future political skirmishes. The Supreme Court judgment is not in issue here. Watch out for the aftermath in court. Hon Justice Peter Lifu is watching the parties in 3D!

My brother, when an order that is superior is out, every other lower court order must take dressing from it. Higher court can't take decision from lower court. It's just judiciary rascality for any judge to have given order contrary to supreme court order in the form of judgement against all states of the federation. The best the judge should have done is to tell those that brought the case to put on notice the state governor and RSIEC, instead of granting that annoyed order and expeditiously dispense the case, by the virtue that he should know that there is already an issue like that at the supreme court and the supreme court had given express order on the case.
I reiterate, no court in Nigeria will void Rivers State election , except such judge is tired of his job, as that judge will be going against the ruling of the highest court of the land.
Besides, that judge that gave that order didn't say, they RSIEC should not conduct election by the order. He only said, INEC should not provide voters' register and police should not give security coverage to the election.
Note, there is no portion of our law that says police should provide security during election in Nigeria. It's just part of their statutory function to provide security for the nation (note the difference, for the nation and not for the election). There are many security agencies that can provide security, even vigilante or man-o-war.
You want the governor to use his security vote to carter for the LGA rather than doing the right thing. O ma ga.

Gbeng30:
Mr president son, how did he spat on everyone faces, why did wike bent on frustrating his governance, is that how ameachi frustrate wike when he was there...why is it difficult for your president to caution wike and allow fubara to run his administration as he pleases...una just like to defend rubbish

High wire politics of this nature requires tact and intelligence,it's not like your village meeting where you shout and chest beat to proof your mettle.

When the impeachment brouhaha started,the president told them to sheath their swords and allow status quo remain,he told them to leave fubara to govern and those who resigned as commissioners should go back but what did fubara do immediately he got back to PH,he deliberately started undermining Wike by making moves directed at removing his structures,same structure that made him gov.

Rather than defer to the president if he had any issues with Wike,he kept his distance and decided to go it alone.

Lithiumite:
High wire politics of this nature requires tact and intelligence,it's not like your village meeting where you shout and chest beat to proof your mettle.

When the impeachment brouhaha started,the president told them to sheath their swords and allow status quo remain,he told them to leave fubara to govern and those who resigned as commissioners should go back but what did fubara do immediately he got back to PH,he deliberately started undermining Wike by making moves directed at removing his structures,same structure that made him gov.

Rather than defer to the president if he had any issues with Wike,he kept his distance and decided to go it alone.

If I may ask, is SIM an appendage of Mr. President, that he has to defer to him if he has issue with Wike? That would be senseless if he has to submit his government to outsiders because of one man. In Wike's 8 years reign, did he allow any person to exert on his government for any reason? The way you're seeing Wike as a mini god that must be pacify at all cost, it doesn't worth it. A single man should not be the determinant of what happened in a state, it makes no sense at all.

Even at that Mr. President intervention was one sided. All his intervention were in favour of Wike and that SIM still bow to the pressure and yielded to some of the interventions.
It was the insatiable thirst of Wike that escalated the whole thing. Wike doesn't want to let go of Rivers State structure because he want to be seen as the alpha and the omega of the state, so that he will be called Jagaban of Rivers State. He wants to equal himself with Tinubu but he doesn't know that Tinubu was tact to have had control over Lagos State and not do the gragra Wike was doing.
That aside, there are state that would not favour godfatherism and Rivers State is one of them and Wike knows this. He should have known that it would be very difficult for him to take control of the state like that.

IfnobeGod20:
If I may ask, is SIM an appendage of Mr. President, that he has to defer to him if he has issue with Wike? That would be senseless if he has to submit his government to outsiders because of one man. In Wike's 8 years reign, did he allow any person to exert on his government for any reason? The way you're seeing Wike as a mini god that must be pacify at all cost, it doesn't worth it. A single man should not be the determinant of what happened in a state, it makes no sense at all.

Even at that Mr. President intervention was one sided. All his intervention were in favour of Wike and that SIM still bow to the pressure and yielded to some of the interventions.
It was the insatiable thirst of Wike that escalated the whole thing. Wike doesn't want to let go of Rivers State structure because he want to be seen as the alpha and the omega of the state, so that he will be called Jagaban of Rivers State. He wants to equal himself with Tinubu but he doesn't know that Tinubu was tact to have had control over Lagos State and not do the gragra Wike was doing.
That aside, there are state that would not favour godfatherism and Rivers State is one of them and Wike knows this. He should have known that it would be very difficult for him to take control of the state like that.

Fubara isn't an appendage of the president but the kind of system we run in Nigeria,the president has a lot of powers you wouldn't want to be used against you,it's quite unfortunate but it is what it is.....obj did it to fayose and dariye,GEJ to Nyarko and amaechi,Buhari to ihedioha and fayose again,just recently tinubu to obaseki.

Everyman worth his salt must keep to agreements,if fubara hadn't agreed and struck a deal with Wike there was no way he could have made it to bridge house.....yes I am kin to agree that Wike can be downright outlandish in his demands on the governor considering his personality but fubara should have been going about it quietly till he gets a foothold in the state.

Lithiumite:
Fubara isn't an appendage of the president but the kind of system we run in Nigeria,the president has a lot of powers you wouldn't want to be used against you,it's quite unfortunate but it is what it is.....obj did it to fayose and dariye,GEJ to Nyarko and amaechi,Buhari to ihedioha and fayose again,just recently tinubu to obaseki.

Everyman worth his salt must keep to agreements,if fubara hadn't agreed and struck a deal with Wike there was no way he could have made it to bridge house.....yes I am kin to agree that Wike can be downright outlandish in his demands on the governor considering his personality but fubara should have been going about it quietly till he gets a foothold in the state.

I won't buy the idea or submission you stated. OBJ was able to over stepped his bounds because people were ignorant of the law as at that time. If you could remember, he declared state of emergency and removed the governor and the constituted authority, which were against the letters of our constitution because there was no where in the constitution that states that declaration of state of emergency automatically remove an elected governor or dissolution of the state assembly. No where.
If you can recall, GEJ corrected that mess when he declared his own state of emergency. He never removed the governor or dissolve the house of assembly.
Yes, it was an arbitrary removal of state governors that are not in good term with OBJ but not with GEJ or PMB. Nyako that was removed by Adamawa's House of Assembly for his gross misconduct. For even including PMB in your narrative, it has spoilt the all show. The same PMB that was difficult for him to remove his own minister is the one you're claiming he removed Ihedioha and Fayose. Please it is off point I have insinuated that PMB removed those two people or Tinubu removed Obaseke.
Please how did Tinubu removed Obaseki? I thought Obaseki is still the governor of Edo till today and tomorrow? You're incoherent my brother and you equally jam talk issues.

Please which agreement was between Wike and SIM? I think their grouse is all about who to hold PDP structure principally? Why should Wike on hold to PDP structure when he is no more the governor? He wants to play God I think so.
Wike is just insatiable and his appetite for self honour is out of this world. The governor had been magnanimous enough by allowing him to chose some commissioners and he gave those he chose juicy posts, even after they resigned and they were absolved again, he still gave them those juicy posts. Wike is just trying to play God and it is not good at all. Just because you help someone, doesn't mean the person doesn't have his life to live or control. How will you give someone goat to tent and still hold on to the twine. That's crazy. That's what Wike is doing.
Fubara has been tact and want peace at all costs but Wike doesn't want that. He pushed the governor to the wall and you know the repercussion of pushing goat to the wall.

Lithiumite:
High wire politics of this nature requires tact and intelligence,it's not like your village meeting where you shout and chest beat to proof your mettle.

When the impeachment brouhaha started,the president told them to sheath their swords and allow status quo remain,he told them to leave fubara to govern and those who resigned as commissioners should go back but what did fubara do immediately he got back to PH,he deliberately started undermining Wike by making moves directed at removing his structures,same structure that made him gov.

Rather than defer to the president if he had any issues with Wike,he kept his distance and decided to go it alone.

So you're saying rivers State belong to wike, when wike become the governor did he not remove the structure of his predecessor....one things that is inevitable is that when you decide to defend hypocrite,,,you will always end up saying rubbish...

The understanding of the Nigeria politics is not for the infant like you and the mentality of the hypocrite that defend this regime should be check so that they don't corrupt others

Gbeng30:
So you're saying rivers State belong to wike, when wike become the governor did he not remove the structure of his predecessor....one things that is inevitable is that when you decide to defend hypocrite,,,you will always end up saying rubbish...

The understanding of the Nigeria politics is not for the infant like you and the mentality of the hypocrite that defend this regime should be check so that they don't corrupt others

Politics is about interest and there is nothing wrong with wike's ambition so far it's pursued within the ambit of the law.....in all this fubara is the one who has shown himself to be the double faced, undependable ally.... There is nothing you can tell me that keeping wike's structure after they help him become gov wasn't part of the agreement fubara made with his benefactor.

I would never support a man who can't keep to agreements.....it's easier to condemn Wike but one of the basic tenets of humanity is ability to respect agreements......if the agreement negated your own interest or belief why accept in the first place.

Lithiumite:
Politics is about interest and there is nothing wrong with wike's ambition so far it's pursued within the ambit of the law.....in all this fubara is the one who has shown himself to be the double faced, undependable ally.... There is nothing you can tell me that keeping wike's structure after they help him become gov wasn't part of the agreement fubara made with his benefactor.

I would never support a man who can't keep to agreements.....it's easier to condemn Wike but one of the basic tenets of humanity is ability to respect agreements......if the agreement negated your own interest or belief why accept in the first place.

See you can go on and on, no politician in this country can keep agreement,the moment they got to the position of power whatever the kind of agreement they may have made will definitely change..power intoxicate human being than anything in this life...wike equally fight ameachi because of the same change of agreement...so wike is not a saint he's guilty of the same crime that fubara might have committed... that's why I don't give the Bleep about anyone of them.... it's quite unfortunate that all this corrupt governor want to be relevant even when they are not in office by trying to control the current governor... it's totally bad for the growth of this country and democracy...

Lithiumite:
Politics is about interest and there is nothing wrong with wike's ambition so far it's pursued within the ambit of the law.....in all this fubara is the one who has shown himself to be the double faced, undependable ally.... There is nothing you can tell me that keeping wike's structure after they help him become gov wasn't part of the agreement fubara made with his benefactor.

I would never support a man who can't keep to agreements.....it's easier to condemn Wike but one of the basic tenets of humanity is ability to respect agreements......if the agreement negated your own interest or belief why accept in the first place.

There is everything wrong with what Wike is doing and how is going about it. He's the most selfish politician as at today. There's a common saying that , you don't give what you don't take. If you give what you don't take, then, you're an hypocrite. Meaning, politics doesn't take away morality, anyone that loses his morality on the altar of politics, such is not a principle person but a devil's advocate.
You know the number of people that have gone to the mother's earth because of Wike's self ambition since 2014? Records have it that between 2014 to 2015, at least 19 people are lost each month in Rivers State because of the political game played within the period and it was the handiwork of his group, GDI. They maimed, injured and killed with reckless abandon just because of one man ambition.

Please of what value is the PDP structure to Wike, if not for his self interest? Even though, if he is contesting tomorrow, would the governor not give him the required support he deserves but he wants to be seen like Tinubu of Lagos but he forgot that Lagos and Rivers State are not the same. That game won't work out for him. His high handedness is out of this world and very selfish person that like playing God.