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Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 6:14am On Oct 06, 2024
PASTOR ADEBOYE NEEDS TO ALSO APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING GOD A LIAR

This article will prove that Pastor Enoch Adeboye of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) calls God a liar.

A few days ago, Pastor Adeboye apologized to his congregation for saying that those who don't pay tithe won't make heaven. This was after years of preaching that non-tithers will go to hell fire. The reason why Adeboye held such believe for long is because he knows nothing about the Bible except how to twist it for his own gain and to send people to eternal damnation. This article will prove that.

Before I go into the reason why I believe Adeboye calls God a liar, I'll first briefly address the 'tithe and heaven' claim he believed for so long. If one can miss heaven for not paying tithe, Adeboye should tell us when the thief on the cross paid tithe after Jesus promised him paradise. Can you now see that Adeboye knows nothing about the Bible other than twisting it for his own gain? Mind you, I strongly believe that every believer owes God the tithe. That's a topic for another day.

Now, the reason why Adeboye calls God a liar is this - he continually preaches against the Once Saved Always Saved doctrine. Before I use the Bible to prove my point, I want you to read the below excerpt from an article authored by Pastor Adeboye which has a title attacking Once Saved Always Saved, calling it a lie.

"Several believers have been made to accept a dangerous belief concerning their faith in Christ. Even some of the ‘big’ men of God preach that once a person is born again, even if he is still committing sin, he is still a born again Christian. This is a horrible lie from the pit of hell. To tell you the undiluted truth, if you become born again, and you go back to sin, if you don’t repent, you will end up in eternal damnation."

Source: https://rccgcornerstoneparishmn.org/uncategorized/once-saved-forever-saved-a-lie-was-written-by-pastor-e-a-adeboye/

What Adeboye said in essence is that once you are born again (saved) and you commit sin after that, you will lose your salvation and end up in eternal damnation (hell fire). With that statement, Adeboye just called God a liar. Read the verse below before I explain how he did it.

1 John 5:10-11 KJV

10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

The above passage says if you don't believe that God has given us eternal life, then you are calling God a liar. Adeboye calls God a liar by saying the eternal life that God has given us is the type that can end when we sin. That is wrong and an attack on God and the promise he made to us. Eternal Life means a life that never ends and all those who have it can never perish regardless of sin. Yes, I said it. Sin can never put an end to that eternal life, because if sin could end it, then the life was never eternal. It means God lied when he said he gave us a never-ending life for believing in Jesus, knowing fully well that it could end. God is not a man like Adeboye that he should lie. Everlasting life cannot stop lasting. Once you have it, it lasts forever. You have it the moment you believe in Jesus Christ. John 3:16.

Below is another sermon preached by Adeboye to his congregation in which he attacked eternal salvation.

"There are many people all over the world now telling you that once you are saved, you are saved forever. Of course you can be saved forever, provided you take heed. That's what the Bible says. 1 Corinthians 10:12 says 'if you think you stand, take heed lest you fall.' The Almighty God who has kept me standing till now will keep you standing forever.

"There are so many preachers all over the world now telling you that since you are saved by grace, which is true, that you can now do whatever you like, that you will still make it to heaven."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_n-mTMqMH8

The above shows Adeboye stating that you can lose your salvation or you can lose the eternal life God has given you. He quoted the below verse.

1 Corinthians 10:12 KJV
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall

Where in the above verse does it say that if you fail to take heed, you will fall from grace or salvation or lose eternal life? Adeboye just quoted the verse and inserted his own meaning into it. The chapter was not talking about salvation or eternal life. The passage was talking about early believers in the Old Testament who took things for granted and murmured against God and in turn God punished them by killing them.

1 Corinthians 10:8-10 KJV
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

Now, where in the above does it say they lost their salvation and were thrown into hell fire? Look, if you sin after you are saved, God will punish you as a loving Father does to his son but he will never throw you into the lake of fire.

Hebrews 12:6 KJV
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Nowhere is it stated that God will throw his sons in hell fire for commiting a sin. Rather, he will chasten and scourge you for sinning and that's all. As a matter of fact, Jesus promised his believers that they will NEVER PERISH. Which means no sin can ever make them perish. They will only be chastened and not perish.

John 10:27-28 KJV
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28 And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Dif you see how Jesus used eternal Life and never perish in the same sentence? He also said nobody can pluck his believers out of his hand. Even his believers can never pluck themselves out of his hand. This means their sins can never get them plucked out of the saviour's hand.

In another sermon, Adeboye tried to prove that one can lose his salvation by quoting the below verse about Paul and Demas.

2 Timothy 4:10 KJV
10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.

According to Adeboye, if Demas who walked with Paul could forsake Paul, then a Christian can lose his salvation. Firstly, Paul is not the author and finisher of our faith, Jesus is. Nowhere is it stated that Demas forsook Jesus Christ. So, we can't say he lost his salvation. Forsaking Paul meant Demas didn't want to walk with him anymore, which was why the verse said he departed to Thessalonica, just as Titus went to Dalmatia and Crescens went to Galatia. They all took different paths. The verse also said Demas departed from Paul because he still "loved this present world". Of course, I would do the same if I still want to see my family again, because walking with Paul was dangerous. Paul was constantly getting stoned, beaten, arrested, locked up and thrown out of cities before he was eventually killed. Before his death, he was warned by a disciple that he would get arrested and bound if he set foot in Jerusalem. Did Paul listen? No. He got up and headed for Jerusalem.

Acts 21:12-13 KJV

12 And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.

13 Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.

Paul was ready to die even as the enemies of the gospel were seeking his life. Is that the kind of man you would want to walk with if you have plans to see tomorrow? That was why Demas departed from him. The verse never said Demas departed from the gospel of Jesus Christ that Paul believed in. He only stopped walking with Paul.

What Adeboye preaches is that you have to ensure that you are without a single sin at the moment of your death or else you will end up in hell fire. He's preaching work based salvation and all those who hold such believe will end up in hell fire because they don't believe that we have eternal life as given by God. We already have eternal life. It is not something that we have to wait till we die before we can find out. The Bible says we already have it.

1 John 5:13-15 KJV
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; THAT YE MAY KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

People like Adeboye also love to quote the below verse.

Philippians 2:12 KJV
12 ...work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

When his likes quote the verse, they make it seem as if the verse is saying that you should save yourself. The verse is only saying that you should show your salvation and not keep it hidden. Let me give you an illustration. When God created you, he gave you muscles. If you go to the gym to WORK OUT, the muscles become very obvious and can make you look good. The muscles could make your friends admire you and get inspired to want to go to the gym and WORK OUT their own muscles too. Same way if you do good, love your neighbors and practice the commandments of Jesus Christ, everyone around you will be motivated to do the same. So, when the Bible says "WORK OUT your salvation", it's simply saying let what God put inside of you be seen. That way it will be of benefit to others. Show the good work of God in you.

Philippians 2:12 KJV

12 ... WORK OUT your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which WORKETH in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Does God want us to be holy? Yes of course. He said, "Be ye holy, as I am holy". However, even if we chose to live a wayward life after we are saved, we will still make heaven. Even if we do no work, we are still seen as righteous by God because we believe in Jesus. That is good news which the Bible preaches as seen below.

Romans 4:5-8 KJV

5 But to him that WORKETH NOT, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for Righteousness.

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without WORKS,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

The last two verses says our sins and iniquities are forgiven and covered. The last verse said God will not impute sin unto us after we are saved. This means sin can never make us lose our salvation, it can never end our eternal life and can never make us miss heaven. That is why the Gospel is called Good News, because there is no good news in knowing that you can lose your salvation at any time. There is no good news in knowing that Jesus can reject you after he saved you. There is no good news in knowing that you can miss heaven for a sin you committed a few seconds before you died, despite living a holy life before that moment. The only good news is Once Saved Always Saved, which Jesus himself preached when he said he gave us eternal life and we shall never perish.

28 And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (John 10:28 KJV)

The reason why we do our best to avoid sin is because we love God and so we keep his commandments. Also, we don't want him to chasten and scourge us.

Hebrews 12:6 KJV
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

If you patronize sex workers, you may contract HIV. If you engage in armed robbery, you may end up in jail. So, avoiding sin is all for your own good. But no sin is greater than the REDEMPTIVE BLOOD of our saviour Jesus Christ. No sin can prevent you from heaven. However, sin can make God punish you here on earth.

Dear reader, if you have any verse that you think disproves the above article, kindly post it in the comment section and I will do my best to show you why you are wrong.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 6:14am On Oct 06, 2024
nlfpmod
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by OgogoroFreak(m): 6:16am On Oct 06, 2024
He drank tea with God.

He is the next to the throne when God is no more.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:16am On Oct 06, 2024
False and antichrist teaching spotted!

Matthew 13:41-42 (KJV)

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by DeathToRiggers(f): 6:20am On Oct 06, 2024
insightful.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by Augustine2244(m): 6:34am On Oct 06, 2024
OgogoroFreak:
He drank tea with God.

He is the next to the throne when God is no more.
Lol! The old fool is always high on Methamphetamine and heroin.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by Clairvoyancy: 6:35am On Oct 06, 2024
You guys should stop all these baseless accusations... These men are humans and are bound to make mistakes...

If find any wrong in any of their teaching, then you shouldn't follow it and help those around you to see the wrong and help the preacher with prayer to see the truth, instead of you condemning them...
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by CodeTemplarr: 6:37am On Oct 06, 2024
Internet is the new street where all the privileged mad men display their wares.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by GanagiBitrus: 6:37am On Oct 06, 2024
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by Kobojunkieee: 6:52am On Oct 06, 2024
Clairvoyancy:
■ You guys should stop all these baseless accusations... These men are humans and are bound to make mistakes...
If find any wrong in any of their teaching, then you shouldn't follow it and help those around you to see the wrong and help the preacher with prayer to see the truth, instead of you condemning them...
So, even after all these many decades, Adeboye remains an imperfect/unholy man incapable of seeing God? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

This all means you lot are aware that Adeboye has been lying all of this while to you about drinking tea with God and hearing from God, since according to Scripture — Adeboye reiterated this the other day — without perfection, no man shall see God. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by xtianchris(m): 6:57am On Oct 06, 2024
Clairvoyancy:
You guys should stop all these baseless accusations... These men are humans and are bound to make mistakes...

If find any wrong in any of their teaching, then you shouldn't follow it and help those around you to see the wrong and help the preacher with prayer to see the truth, instead of you condemning them...
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by TradingGod: 7:40am On Oct 06, 2024
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Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 8:03am On Oct 06, 2024
Clairvoyancy:
You guys should stop all these baseless accusations... These men are humans and are bound to make mistakes...

If find any wrong in any of their teaching, then you shouldn't follow it and help those around you to see the wrong and help the preacher with prayer to see the truth, instead of you condemning them...
There are certain mistakes you don't make as a Man of God. You don't tell people that they can be lost after the Ultimate Saviour has saved them. That's like equating the work of Jesus Christ to that of an earthly bank that can lose what was saved in it. Simply put, Adeboye has never believed that Jesus can save for all eternity. He doesn't even believe that Jesus saves. That's why he entreats his followers to try to save themselves, which is works based salvation. Such people will definitely end up in hell because they don't believe Jesus is sufficient for them.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 8:05am On Oct 06, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
So, even after all these many decades, Adeboye remains an imperfect/unholy man incapable of seeing God? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

This all means you lot are aware that Adeboye has been lying all of this while to you about drinking tea with God and hearing from God, since according to Scripture — Adeboye reiterated this the other day — without perfection, no man shall see God. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
I wonder why God never corrected Adeboye on his error about tithe and heaven on the day they "drank tea together".

grin
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 8:13am On Oct 06, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
False and antichrist teaching spotted!

Matthew 13:41-42 (KJV)

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Once you are saved (born again), your spirit does No iniquity. It is your flesh that still sins. Your spirit cannot sin because it is has been born of God.

1 John 3:9 KJV
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God

Born of God means born again as seen above.

That spirit that has been born of God goes to heaven while the flesh becomes dust. If your spirit is NOT born of God (born again), it goes to hell fire when you die.

Everyone on earth sins, including Christians. We are all sinners.

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

We are all sinners and we sin almost everyday. But the reason why we are Christians is because we are relying on Jesus Christ who died on the cross to pay for our sins. How dare you say Jesus never paid for our sins? How dare you belittle the redemptive blood of Jesus? How dare you call God a liar when he said he gave us everlasting life for believing in Jesus?

Don't prevent this thread from getting to front page, otherwise it will amount to bias and an hindrance to the work of God.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AntiChristian: 8:13am On Oct 06, 2024
What brand of tea does God drink?
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by Kobojunkieee: 8:14am On Oct 06, 2024
AlwaysSaved:
■ I wonder why God never corrected Adeboye on his error about tithe and heaven on the day they "drank tea together". grin
You mean his lie, right? If we are to at all connect Adeboye to being, it would be to he devil who is the father of all lies. That is more than likely the source of his lie regarding drinking tea there. undecided
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by cutecommend: 8:16am On Oct 06, 2024
Augustine2244:
Lol! The old fool is always high on Methamphetamine and heroin.
Try to have respect. He may be older than you Dad.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by Clairvoyancy: 10:33am On Oct 06, 2024
AlwaysSaved:
There are certain mistakes you don't make as a Man of God. You don't tell people that they can be lost after the Ultimate Saviour has saved them. That's like equating the work of Jesus Christ to that of an earthly bank that can lose what was saved in it. Simply put, Adeboye has never believed that Jesus can save for all eternity. He doesn't even believe that Jesus saves. That's why he entreats his followers to try to save themselves, which is works based salvation. Such people will definitely end up in hell because they don't believe Jesus is sufficient for them.
You interpreted him wrongly ooo... This is not what he meant oo...

What he's trying to say is that you can buy yourself walk out of the salvation Jesus has given unto you via committing sins without repentance...

Don't misquote him please... I'm not one of his member but that's not what he said
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 12:57pm On Oct 06, 2024
Clairvoyancy:
You interpreted him wrongly ooo... This is not what he meant oo...

What he's trying to say is that you can buy yourself walk out of the salvation Jesus has given unto you via committing sins without repentance...

Don't misquote him please... I'm not one of his member but that's not what he said
You are helping him with his lies.

Here you say one can by himself walk out of the salvation of Jesus. That is a big lie because Jesus himself said no man can pluck us out of his hands. If you are not a man, you can pluck yourself out of his hand. But as long as you are a man aka human being, you can never pluck yourself out of his hand because he's stronger than you and keeps you safe with his strength. He also promised that you will NEVER PERISH because he has given you eternal life. If he says we will never perish, how dare you say one can still perish? All what I've said are in the passage below as said by Jesus himself.

John 10:27-28 KJV

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Who do you believe? Adeboye that said you can perish or Jesus that said you can NEVER PERISH?


nlfpmod Mynd44 Seun fergie03
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by Clairvoyancy: 2:23pm On Oct 06, 2024
AlwaysSaved:
You are helping him with his lies.

Here you say one can by himself walk out of the salvation of Jesus. That is a big lie because Jesus himself said no man can pluck us out of his hands. If you are not a man, you can pluck yourself out of his hand. But as long as you are a man aka human being, you can never pluck yourself out of his hand because he's stronger than you and keeps you safe with his strength. He also promised that you will NEVER PERISH because he has given you eternal life. If he says we will never perish, how dare you say one can still perish? All what I've said are in the passage below as said by Jesus himself.

John 10:27-28 KJV

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Who do you believe? Adeboye that said you can perish or Jesus that said you can NEVER PERISH?


nlfpmod Mynd44 Seun fergie03
Oh... Is SIN also man? Cos I can see you didn't understand my post... Answer that first before I ask the main question....
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:33pm On Oct 06, 2024
Apologize to who? huh
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 5:48pm On Oct 06, 2024
Clairvoyancy:
Oh... Is SIN also man? Cos I can see you didn't understand my post... Answer that first before I ask the main question....
You don't seem to get it. Sin was what Jesus came to defeat for us because we couldn't conquer it ourselves.

Matthew 1:21-23 KJV
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people FROM THEIR SINS.

If we could live a life without sin, then we won't need Jesus. But God knew we couldn't do it ourselves, so he sent his Son to face the punishment meant for us. Don't you think it stupid to punish someone again even after another person has paid for his offense? If Jesus saved us from sin, which he defeated, how dare you still say sin can still conquer hom and steal us from him?

The Bible says "There's none righteous, no not one." The same Bible also says "For all have sinned...". There's nowhere it says there are some who are without sin. Anybody that says he has no sin, even the smallest of sins, is a liar and has no truth in him and should never be listened to. I didn't say so, the Bible did as seen below.

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Because we know we are sinners, we rely on Jesus who paid the debt on our behalf on the cross. Jesus made us blessed because he not only forgave our sins, he covered them and promised us in future tense that he will not IMPUTE SIN on us. That's what the Bible said below.

Romans 4:7-8 KJV
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are FORGIVEN, and whose sins are COVERED.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord WILL NOT IMPUTE SIN.

The assurance that he won't IMPUTE SIN on us lies in the fact that he gave us everlasting life which is a life that lasts forever. Now, tell me how sin can put an end to an everlasting life? Sin has no power over it because it is everlasting. If you say otherwise, then it means you are saying God lied when he said the life he gave us is everlasting. It means you have called God a liar like Adeboye.

John 5:24 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by Clairvoyancy: 6:03pm On Oct 06, 2024
AlwaysSaved:
You don't seem to get it. Sin was what Jesus came to defeat for us because we couldn't conquer it ourselves.

Matthew 1:21-23 KJV
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people FROM THEIR SINS.

If we could live a life without sin, then we won't need Jesus. But God knew we couldn't do it ourselves, so he sent his Son to face the punishment meant for us. Don't you think it stupid to punish someone again even after another person has paid for his offense? If Jesus saved us from sin, which he defeated, how dare you still say sin can still conquer hom and steal us from him?

The Bible says "There's none righteous, no not one." The same Bible also says "For all have sinned...". There's nowhere it says there are some who are without sin. Anybody that says he has no sin, even the smallest of sins, is a liar and has no truth in him and should never be listened to. I didn't say so, the Bible did as seen below.

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Because we know we are sinners, we rely on Jesus who paid the debt on our behalf on the cross. Jesus made us blessed because he not only forgave our sins, he covered them and promised us in future tense that he will not IMPUTE SIN on us. That's what the Bible said below.

Romans 4:7-8 KJV
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are FORGIVEN, and whose sins are COVERED.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord WILL NOT IMPUTE SIN.

The assurance that he won't IMPUTE SIN on us lies in the fact that he gave us everlasting life which is a life that lasts forever. Now, tell me how sin can put an end to an everlasting life? Sin has no power over it because it is everlasting. If you say otherwise, then it means you are saying God lied when he said the life he gave us is everlasting. It means you have called God a liar like Adeboye.

John 5:24 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
I understand all you typed but I do not agree.... It simply means that because Jesus had died for our sins, we can keep going back to sin just because we know he would forgive when we ask for forgiveness.... That's exactly what you are saying...



Can you please explain the word of God below 👇


Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1Cor: 6
Re: Pastor Adeboye Needs To Also Apologize For Calling God A Liar by AlwaysSaved(op): 3:14pm On Oct 07, 2024
Clairvoyancy:
I understand all you typed but I do not agree.... It simply means that because Jesus had died for our sins, we can keep going back to sin just because we know he would forgive when we ask for forgiveness.... That's exactly what you are saying...
Remember that I posted a verse above that says we are all sinners, we sin almost everyday. Even after we are saved, we still sin, knowingly and unknowingly. However, when we sin, God chastens and scourges us because we are his sons.

Hebrews 12:6 KJV
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth

The above is how God punished his son's who sin and it happens here on earth. Nowhere is it stated that he throws his own sons into hell fire. It is those whose sins have not been paid by Jesus Christ because they refused to accept his gift of salvation that end up in hell. Those that accepted his salvation don't face punishment for their sins after death because Christ already paid their debt.

If you keep going back to sin after you are saved, God will keep punishing you and scourging you until you come to your senses. Same way a father beats and punishes his disobedient child. However, no father burns his child in fire for disobedience. If we humans can't do that, why then do you think our heavenly father will do such to his children?

Clairvoyancy:
Can you please explain the word of God below 👇


Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1Cor: 6
You see all those sins listed above, Christians who are saved also commit them. Do you want to know something else? Christians will never miss the kingdom of God because of those sins. Why is that so? It is so because the debt they owe for those sins have been paid by Jesus who suffered the punishment on their behalf.

You may look at a Christian today and see a gambler, alcoholic, thief, fornicator, adultery, extortionist, etc. But when God sees that Christian, he sees his son Jesus Christ. Why is that so? When Jesus died on the cross, he took upon himself our sins. He was killed like a transgressor, a common criminal despite being sinless. He was made sin for us to become righteous.

2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Remember the Garden of Eden. After Adam and Even sinned, they became naked and ashamed. To cover their unclothedness, they used leaves. However, leaves will dry up and expose their unclothedness again. That was when God showed up and killed a lamb then used the lamb's skin (leather) to make clothes for them. That leather lasts than leaves. The leaves represented man's works of righteousness which couldn't do much. The leather represented God's righteousness which is everlasting.

Ask yourself, what sin did the lamb commit that he had to die. He committed no sin but died for the sins committed by Adam and Even. His blood was shed for them to be forgiven. That lamb pictured Jesus Christ who is called the Holy Lamb slain from the foundation of the world - Revelations 13:8.

Adam and Eve sinned, the lamb paid the price. We Christians sinned, Jesus paid the price.
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