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Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by 4words: 9:49am On Oct 06, 2024
MichaelSokoto:
Though I don't support d way some overzealous men of God lampoon their followers over tithe issue, me personally I have seen d reason why we should endeavor to pay tithes cos dis tithes are very essential in d running of d church and proclamation of d gospel...

jez 4get weda pastor dey waste d money, na God go arrest am
Should we make church the government of the country and when they embezzle money, we should wait for God to arrest them and not say anything.

Hope you see how flawed your logic is.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by LordReed(m): 9:50am On Oct 06, 2024
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by PHIPEX(m):
paxonel:
Go and read your bible again.
Jesus was never against the Jews paying tithe in their religion Judaism according to Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42
But in Christianity that he established which started in the book of Act of apostles, he never instituted tithe
1. Are you a Jew?
2. Who were the Jews paying tithe to?
3. Why did Jesus and his Disciples not pay nor recieve tithe
4. Why did Jesus and the Disciples not instruct the CHRISTIAN body to pay or receive tithe?
5. The disciples wrote extensively on generous giving but zero on tithe, was that a mistake?
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by omooba969(m): 9:50am On Oct 06, 2024
MichaelSokoto:
Though I don't support d way some overzealous men of God lampoon their followers over tithe issue, me personally I have seen d reason why we should endeavor to pay tithes cos dis tithes are very essential in d running of d church and proclamation of d gospel...

jez 4get weda pastor dey waste d money, na God go arrest am
This is the real problem you people create, forgetting that these earthly pastors are mere humans.

There has to be transparency and accountability, as this would help to build and strengthen public trust.

Shall we also 4get weda our politicians or public officials dey waste our money? undecided

You black people sef, only God knows how y'all reason! 😒
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by techbro1: 9:50am On Oct 06, 2024
Christ4ever:
You are talking thrash
Thrash Trash

Try go school mumu
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by Paddyben: 9:51am On Oct 06, 2024
Ilf all of them r followers if Jesus Christ.. r they not suppose to follow in his foot steps? Deh there the decieve yourself..
sweetjohn:
Correct. Jesus do not preside over any Temple or synagogue. Therefore, he is not a parish priest. He is simply a man who came to reveal God to man and show man how to commune with God and also make heaven. He is more like evangelist. That’s the work of an evangelist. Priest preside over Temples and synagogues, Jesus do not. Jesus move from place to place to spread the word. That’s evangelism.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by MichaelSokoto(m): 9:52am On Oct 06, 2024
omooba969:
This is the real problem you create, forgetting that these earthly pastors are mere humans.

There has to be transparency and accountability, as this would help to build and strengthen public trust.

Shall we also 4get weda our politicians or public officials dey waste our money? undecided

You black people sef, only God knows how y'all reason! 😒
am Jez saying bro!

Our politicians are a different kind of evil we should not accord dat chance to misbehave!
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by MichaelSokoto(m): 9:53am On Oct 06, 2024
4words:
Should we make church the government of the country and when they embezzle money, we should wait for God to arrest them and not say anything.

Hope you see how flawed your logic is.
jez my own assumption oo!
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by femi4: 9:55am On Oct 06, 2024
sweetjohn:
none of the above mention are priest. Paul is an evangelist just as Jesus. They both move from place to place to teach about God. Peter is a leader of the church but he is not a priest bc he is not a Levite. Timothy is also an evangelist just like Paul. Same with Philip. None of Jesus disciples are priests they are apostles.

I think, you don’t know who is a priest and who is an apostle. You are misunderstanding both. Priest are Levite. They are the only one qualified to receive tithes and preside over a temple. And must be ordained to become one.

Although, I still don’t know why it pastors this days are collecting tithes bc pastors and apostles are not priest.
Don't dodge the question. I never said they did, I said mention 1.

I only gave you some popular names in NT
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by SlavaUkraini: 9:55am On Oct 06, 2024
paxonel:
Go and read your bible again.
Jesus was never against the Jews paying tithe in their religion Judaism according to Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42
But in Christianity that he established which started in the book of Act of apostles, he never instituted tithe
If paying of tithe is too much for you to understand then don't pay

But make sure you support your local church financially regularly..

By the time you know it, you are giving 30%, which is highly Commendable.

Apostle Paul said.... And I paraphrase

"If I have blessed you with Spiritual Gifts, is it too much to ask for your material substance ?"


The apostle wasn't just talking about a tenth here.

By the time you sow seeds into the life and ministry of your Man of God, you would have gone past the tenth.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by Arrowhead71: 9:56am On Oct 06, 2024
Bros this is my testimony I pay 50 percent of my profit as tithe and I have more money than when I was not born again, no stress and mind you my pastor don’t know me or aware of my personal arrangement with God, because the church is big
kennyz247:
D's pastors can do Anything to defend tithes..

Na so one pastor dey buy Rolls Royce for another established pastor and hundreds of member are suffering from hunger and hardship,and you still want make Dem still hustle and pay tithes..
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by Vadese1: 9:56am On Oct 06, 2024
Oh Lord, your hand I belong. Save me Father and Direct my understanding from Mere mortals
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by omooba969(m): 10:00am On Oct 06, 2024
MichaelSokoto:
am Jez saying bro!

Our politicians are a different kind of evil we should not accord dat chance to misbehave!
Haaaaa 🥺, hey I don't think your brain is capable of any critical thinking. Your thought process is warped, therefore shouldn't be contributing to sensitive topics like this one.

As you've used the word misbehave, it shows that you would agree that pastors wasting our contributions are also misbehaving. We shouldn't allow that to happen nor fester.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by AntiChristian: 10:01am On Oct 06, 2024
advocatejare:
The irrational one is sighted again, your account has been unbanned?
When was it banned before?
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by DmonSlayer10: 10:02am On Oct 06, 2024
meum:
Na wa.

Na you talk say Jesus had women who supported his ministry. Na same you have word of caution for those who have women supporting their ministry.

God abeg the anointed wey you talk say make we no touch don dey over do.
As the annointed don dey "over do", go and touch them naa!!

You go receive wotowoto,spiritually and physically

Radical Islamists and Idolaters everywhere!!
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by omooba969(m): 10:03am On Oct 06, 2024
Arrowhead71:
Bros this is my testimony I pay 50 percent of my profit as tithe and I have more money than when I was not born again, no stress and mind you my pastor don’t know me or aware of my personal arrangement with God, because the church is big
Congrats! 👏

I hope your ways are one with God though.

Search your heart!
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by jojothaiv(m): 10:04am On Oct 06, 2024
Jesus was not a parish pastor; He was a world evangelist...

Just wow, just wow again.

In most orthodox and pentecostal churches of which RCCG belongs, a parish pastor is more rated than an evangelist, so using the word evangelist on the Lord's most glorious creature sound corny at best.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by MichaelSokoto(m): 10:07am On Oct 06, 2024
omooba969:
Haaaaa 🥺, hey I don't think your brain is capable of any critical thinking. Your thought process is warped, therefore shouldn't be contributing to sensitive topics like this one.

As you've used the word misbehave, it shows that you would agree that pastors wasting our contributions are also misbehaving. We shouldn't allow that to happen nor fester.
if I swear 4 u dis early morning ehn, no church go gree deliver u ooo!

na shrine ya salvation go Jez dey!

dem go give u bed space inside shrine for deliverance purpose!
angry
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by georgeakins: 10:11am On Oct 06, 2024
omoredia:
Apc false prophet. The way he likes money so much shows where his heart truely is. The bible has warned us against his type
You hate Adeboye simply because he is greater than all the pastors from your tribe, put together.

Na bitterness and envy go kill you las las
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by omoredia: 10:13am On Oct 06, 2024
georgeakins:
You hate Adebayo simply because he is greater than all the pastors from your tribe, put together.

Na bitterness and envy go kill you las las
Joker. I hate a thief and a liar and even a thief and a liar can be great it doesn't change whi they are
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by georgeakins: 10:18am On Oct 06, 2024
omoredia:
Joker. I hate a thief and a liar and even a thief and a liar can be great it doesn't change whi they are
Na lie!

Na bitterness and envy dey worry.

You praise all the pastors from tribe but criticise Adeboye because your tribe cannot produce a famous pastor like him.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by Artscollection: 10:18am On Oct 06, 2024
ruffhandu:
Oh, I so dislike when people make themselves the standard for Christianity.

Even Damina, when he was preaching 'prosperity gospel', he would have called every other pastor who opposes that a 'liar'. Now he claims he has 'repented', and turns around to call every pastor who is still preaching what he preached a 'liar'.

Now this Rccg man, after asking for forgiveness, he still defends his action. He had 'lied' to people they will go to hell. Now he says they won't go to hell but they should pay tithe anyway, more than 10%.
Now he has unfairly tagged another pastor's sermon as 'shallow', him who had 'lied' to his people preaches 'spirit-filled' sermon.

I honestly stay away from these people. I check what they preach with the scriptures, if my spirit confirms it with the Bible, I lambalo it, else, I thrash it. They are men like me and never my role models.
Those men has bastardized christanity with their vanity filled list even the missionaries that came with some political motives scored high above them. How can you message be centred on tithing and still people in your churches are poor and can't even afford your schools and hospitals which they contributed to
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by kunleham: 10:22am On Oct 06, 2024
uncleck:
Tithing and offerings is the basis of modern Christianity. 98% of church activities, sermon etc is about money
That's why they said "owo ni keke iyin rere"
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by omooba969(m): 10:22am On Oct 06, 2024
news247:
Who make them anointed, abi all this pastor wey be self anointed all of them are business and conmen, remove tithe and offering and any form of giving in the churches and see how it will die off cause most of them won't stand it they will automatically close and find alternatives to make money | to preach repentant and sinful wrong doings or even guiding people close to God's words this day in church's na wahala, all of them are focused not only on words that will bring prosperity and money but also those pastors in the church every Sunday and every other days all their minds body and soul is always focused at the time of giving offering and tithe, they just start church program normally as a formality but where their mind dey as the program is ongoing is at the point or time for offering and tithe, you won't know they will be using their mind and heart to be calculating the total offering and tithe (money) ongoing so far at that particular section and they will be happy cause in their mind business is growing and customers which are the church members are doing well lol 😆

Until people wise up this conmen will not stop but to keep business going on as usual.
@bolded, what do you think would happen to countries all over the world if we don't pay taxes? Paying tithe is not the issue here but making it compulsory and failing to administer same judiciously on people-centred projects.

Remember, James 1:27. “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.”

Proverbs 19:17: “Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done.”

Deuteronomy 26:12: In the third year, give the tithe of your produce to the Levite, stranger, orphan, and widow so they can eat in your cities.

I want to believe some religious centres are trying their best with regard to this.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by paxonel(m): 10:23am On Oct 06, 2024
SlavaUkraini:
If paying of tithe is too much for you to understand then don't pay
Nigerians are gradually understanding these whole thing now. The problem is not the money, the problem is the manner at which the money is collected.
It is done out of deception, distortion and intimidation.
Infact, the name TITHE alone is deception.
If the collection is renamed GIVING or even PAYMENT FOR PASTORS SALARY, it will be very much ok
But make sure you support your local church financially regularly..
very sure!
We are doing that
By the time you know it, you are giving 30%, which is highly Commendable.

Apostle Paul said.... And I paraphrase

"If I have blessed you with Spiritual Gifts, is it too much to ask for your material substance ?"


The apostle wasn't just talking about a tenth here.

By the time you sow seeds into the life and ministry of your Man of God, you would have gone past the tenth.
exactly
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by meum: 10:23am On Oct 06, 2024
DmonSlayer10:
As the annointed don dey "over do", go and touch them naa!!

You go receive wotowoto,spiritually and physically

Radical Islamists and Idolaters everywhere!!
Na you be the anointed? Why E come pain you like dis? No be only spiritually & physically. Keep deceiving yourself.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by emapeteum(m): 10:28am On Oct 06, 2024
Redeem is a heretic sect of Christianity, and not the Church Christ built
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by Eastcoastboy(m): 10:33am On Oct 06, 2024
kennyz247:
D's pastors can do Anything to defend tithes..

Na so one pastor dey buy Rolls Royce for another established pastor and hundreds of member are suffering from hunger and hardship,and you still want make Dem still hustle and pay tithes..
The Genz's and woke generation are not buying any of those unbalanced doctrines.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by Cmeo(m): 10:34am On Oct 06, 2024
I am not surprised because it was the teachers and prospectors of the law that crucified Jesus and his followers . They later became the propagator of the so called gospel when their relevance was diminishing after the death of Jesus. They did that to safe their face after His resurrection. One among them is Apostle Paul and majority of the present day pastors who modelled after him.
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by femi4: 10:36am On Oct 06, 2024
Arrowhead71:
Bros this is my testimony I pay 50 percent of my profit as tithe and I have more money than when I was not born again, no stress and mind you my pastor don’t know me or aware of my personal arrangement with God, because the church is big
This is the mentality you should drop and why tithe paying is TRANSACTIONAL.

2. There is no relationship between your 50% tithing and profit. It's not a cause n effect thing. My neighbour gave his first salary and lost the job the following month.

It means the day your have a loss, you will not give. You only give cos you made more. Giving should be done at all times irrespective of you making profit or not
Re: Why Jesus, Apostles Did Not Collect Tithes - Adeboye by etrouble: 10:36am On Oct 06, 2024
This man keeps humiliating the Churches
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