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Emusan:
So in essence, you mean God has HANDS, HEAD, LEGS e.t.c like we human or some animals?

I used a figure of speech
Go and understand what figure of speech means

Is God also a star, a sun, rock, light as he also describes himself

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Born again Christians are like wind?
What about saying his followers are light of the world?

Both statement are correct.

The point is, Jesus used WIND as the best physical thing the SPIRIT CAN BE COMPARE WITH on physical universe.

In fact, that was the reason why Bible writers used the objects with no definite shape or form for Spirit because there no PHYSICAL THING THAT CAN BE PERFECTLY USED TO DESCRIBED SPIRIT.

So, nothing like PHYSICALITY about spirit.

Aemmyjah:
I used a figure of speech
Go and understand what figure of speech means

Is God also a star, a sun, rock, light as he also describes himself

So, which means God is indescribable, is that right?

Sand2022:
That is consistent with what the Bible says. He does not know just as Jehovah's witnesses teach with regards to the Sodomites. You teach that Jehovah only knew when he came down to observe. So from JW view, you can no longer use this issue of knowledge against Jesus. If God doesn't know certain things at least for sometime, how then would you expect Jesus to know certain things all the time?

The same way You and I doesn't know certain things all the time. It doesn't mean we choose not to know, it's just not in our authority to know. The Bible is clear that Only the Father has the authority to set TIME. That's the only person that can choose not to know something. He alone has that authority and jurisdiction. Jesus doesn't know, not that he choose not to know.

Not if you understand the Trinity doctrine which it appears you do not even understand. Jesus has the same essence as God, the angels do not possess this essence.

This is a dumb take though, God , angels , and Jesus all have the same essence. Essence means Nature or what someone is made of. God, Jesus and the angels in heaven are all Spirit beings, that's their essence. In fact the bible speak of Christina's has having the hope of Divine ( God's ) Nature at ressurection. Does that mean they have same authority as God to know time and seasons ?

Dumb

No. You don't equate Jesus with humans and angels in his full divinity. I made this point above:

"Back to the point. Jesus never said he cannot know. After his resurrection notice that Jesus told his apostles that it does not belong to THEM(you) to know the date that the father has kept in his own JURISDICTION. So that is the role of His father to set the date. That is a role. Trinitarian agree that there can be distinction within the Godhead and that there are distinct roles.

First by Jesus saying it does not belong to "THEM" to know neither did he say it does not belong to US including himself, this could mean that at this time Jesus now knows, but he doesn't want to share that knowledge to THEM. He didn't now say "no one knows except the Father".

Jesus didn't say CANNOT. I mean how will he come to judge the world and destroy the wicked if he cannot know when the end will come? Is he not the one that will be bringing it to end?

Jesus doesn't still know, as at when he was speaking to them, he is yet to return to God in Heaven

Emusan:
The point still remains JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

Evidence from the scripture

Useless point . The son doesn't know the day and hour.

The more you dodge this question the more it shows you are afraid of your own lies
I've been asking you this question long time before now.
Is there anything the Father can hide from the Son?

I already answered you, you are just dumb

Matt 24:36 - Son admit the Father didn't tell him the date. That's what he hide from him

Emusan:
Beating around the bush....

Just admit you are stupid. Matthew 10:28 describe a fully functional physical body, is that what return to heaven?

Answer my question first oponu.

Nothing enters the womb, nothing return to God as well. For anything to return to God means God transferred something in the first place to activate life in the womb . Sit down in one place

Either admit your dumb Spirit person from heaven was transferred to the womb, or admit your dumb nothing enters the womb analogy

MightySparrow:
All spirit beings share the same essence just as all human beings share the same essence

So all humans are beings except Janosky that is a weed.

Same as
All spirit beings?
Of all the spirits, Holy Spirit is the only force not being

Have you received sense?

Why are afraid to paste the Nicean Greed?

Holy spirit is a force , the same way the spirit of man is a Force. If holy spirit is a person , Jesus lied when he said nobody knows except the Father because holy spirit must know.

Secondly, it means Holy spirit is GREATER Than Jesus. You can speak against Jesus and be forgiven, but sin against holy spirit is not forgivable, that's the proof that The person holy spirit is greater than Jesus. Dump that heresy you are spreading

CAPTIVATOR:
Just admit you are stupid. Matthew 10:28 describe a fully functional physical body, is that what return to heaven?

Very oponu somebody, Matt was about God having power over man death.

Let that sink into your empty skull

Nothing enters the womb, nothing return to God as well. For anything to return to God means God transferred something in the first place to activate life in the womb . Sit down in one place

And this oponu was using Job to brag on how Baby in the womb has GOD'S BREATH.

HE even tried to create impression as if GOD SITS BESISED EVERY pregnant women to put life into their embryo.

Can you see how shameless you are?

Either admit your dumb Spirit person from heaven was transferred to the womb, or admit your dumb nothing enters the womb analogy

What is causing you severe pain is,

God gave every human a Spirit.

The Spirit of man is a Person

The Spirit returned to God who gave human.

Do you need more cry?

CAPTIVATOR:
Useless point . The son doesn't know the day and hour.

BUT THE SON KNOWS ALL THINGS.

You can remove that scripture from your already perverted version.

As the truth is so heavy fro you to swallow.

I already answered you, you are just dumb

Where is the answer oniro oshi?

Can the Father hide anything from the Son?

I told you, your exposed your own lying mouth that statement and it's the same statement that buried your lying mouth finally.

Matt 24:36 - Son admit the Father didn't tell him the date. That's what he hide from him

So the Father can hide something from the Son.

Yes or No?

Emusan:
Very oponu somebody, Matt was about God having power over man death.

Let that sink into your empty skull

So God only exercise that power with People with physical bodies.

" Nothing like PHYSICAL with spirit being, " - Emusan



We are talking about spirit person's that return to heaven now,

It means the spirit person's return to heaven both good and wicked and have a Nice time. God's holy dwelling becomes an haven for wicked spirit person's , No judgement.

Emusan , your Dumbness has PhD.

And this oponu was using Job to brag on how Baby in the womb has GOD'S BREATH.

HE even tried to create impression as if GOD SITS BESISED EVERY pregnant women to put life into their embryo.

Can you see how shameless you are?

What is causing you severe pain is,

God gave every human a Spirit.

The Spirit of man is a Person

The Spirit returned to God who gave human.

Do you need more cry?

If you go to school, you know the word " Return " in the bolded means to go back to where you are previously, If spirit of man is a person from God in heaven, it means it Came from heaven into the womb to give life to the body.

Emusan:
BUT THE SON KNOWS ALL THINGS.

You can remove that scripture from your already perverted version.

Which means he is a Liar to have claimed only the Father know the day and hour ?

Just admit it

As the truth is so heavy fro you to swallow.
Where is the answer oniro oshi?

Can the Father hide anything from the Son?

I told you, your exposed your own lying mouth that statement and it's the same statement that buried your lying mouth finally.
So the Father can hide something from the Son.

Yes or No?

Yes, Jesus admitted it. ' Not even the son knows '

CAPTIVATOR:
Which means he is a Liar to have claimed only the Father know the day and hour ?

Just admit it

No! It means your brain is so empty to accept the testimony of the scripture.

And since God can also decided not to know despite being ALL KNOWING and never stop being God.

[quoye]Yes, Jesus admitted it. ' Not even the son knows '[/quote]Answer my question oponu?

Emusan:
No! It means your brain is so empty to accept the testimony of the scripture.

And since God can also decided not to know despite being ALL KNOWING and never stop being God.

Are you admitting that Jesus doesn't know the day and hour now ?

Yes, Jesus admitted it. ' Not even the son knows '

Answer my question oponu?

If eye is paining you, let me help you. God didn't reveal the day and hour to his son. That's what is hidden to the son ( Matt 24:36)

CAPTIVATOR:
So God only exercise that power with People with physical bodies.

" Nothing like PHYSICAL with spirit being, " - Emusan

Matt 10 is about God on human final destination its self explanatory.

We are talking about spirit person's that return to heaven now,

It means the spirit person's return to heaven both good and wicked and have a Nice time. God's holy dwelling becomes an haven for wicked spirit person's , No judgement.

Emusan , your Dumbness has PhD.

Stop repeating your ignoramus.

This had been addressed long time ago.

Where did I tell you I have PhD?

You this false accuser people.

If you go to school, you know the word " Return " in the bolded means to go back to where you are previously, If spirit of man is a person from God in heaven, it means it Came from heaven into the womb to give life to the body.

After Hus lying mouth had been exposed he's now looking for irrelevant legs to stand on.

Job failed.

Embryo with breath in the womb failed e.t.c

Which next lie remain for you now?

The spirit of man is a person and that is the reason the spirit can know THOUGHT.

CAPTIVATOR:
Are you admitting that Jesus doesn't know the day and hour now ?

Boring this time.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

Cry harder and hit your head on the wall, that won't remove the truth from the scripture.

If eye is paining you, let me help you. God didn't reveal the day and hour to his son. That's what is hidden to the son ( Matt 24:36)

Can the Father hide anything from the Son?

Simple Yes or No answer but you see him dancing around like headless chicken

Emusan:
Matt 10 is about God on human final destination its self explanatory.

Matt 10 mentions Body, is your human spirit going to heaven with Physical bodies now ?

Stop repeating your ignoramus.

This had been addressed long time ago.

Where did I tell you I have PhD?

You this false accuser people.

After Hus lying mouth had been exposed he's now looking for irrelevant legs to stand on.

Job failed.

Embryo with breath in the womb failed e.t.c

Which next lie remain for you now?

The spirit of man is a person and that is the reason the spirit can know THOUGHT.

Ecc 12:7 "Return"

That single word will ruin your entire empire of lies

'Nothing enters the womb' - Emusan

It means nothing return . Clap for yourself .

Sperm gives life not God.

As far as spirit come from God to give life as Eccl 12:7 , you must face the absurdity of your position.

Emusan:
Boring this time.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

Cry harder and hit your head on the wall, that won't remove the truth from the scripture.

Not even Jesus said so


The son doesn't know. Matt 24:36

Jesus himself said this.

Can the Father hide anything from the Son?

Simple Yes or No answer but you see him dancing around like headless chicken

Already replied Yes, but it's like you have sight and comprehension problem .

I even show you what he hide

CAPTIVATOR:
Matt 10 mentions Body, is your human spirit going to heaven with Physical bodies now ?

Already.... Done deal!

Ecc 12:7 "Return"

That single word will ruin your entire empire of lies

'Nothing enters the womb' - Emusan

It means nothing return . Clap for yourself .

Sperm gives life not God.

As far as spirit come from God to give life as Eccl 12:7 , you must face the absurdity of your position.

Job has breath in his NOSTRILS says the deluded one.

That lie not flies, he turned to God TRANSFERRING SOMETHING SOMETHING FROM HEAVEN TO THE WOMB...that lie bursted.

He is now chasing shadow

Human spirit is a person and the spirit knows human THOUGHT only a person have ability to know thought.

Proof me wrong on this first!

CAPTIVATOR:
Not even Jesus said so

The son doesn't know. Matt 24:36

Jesus himself said this.

That is why you claimed the Bible is contradictory.

But now pretending to be defending the same contradictory Book.

You can't eat your cake and also have it.

Jesus knows ALL THINGS.

That makes Him God Almighty.

Already replied Yes, but it's like you have sight and comprehension problem .

I even show you what he hide

Where did you reply YES?

Lying liar!

If the Father can hide something from the Son, that means they are NOT ONE which even your organization interpret as HAVING ONE INTENT.

This your delusion will outgrowing you don't worry

Emusan:
Already.... Done deal!

Why are you afraid to answer

Do spirit person return to heaven with Physical body as mentioned in Matt 10:28?

If no, that means the text isn't about any spirit. Showing the spirit that return to God remain with God.

You are yet to prove that God judge what return to heaven! What we have at Matt 10:28 is a fully functioning human body

Job has breath in his NOSTRILS says the deluded one.

That lie not flies, he turned to God TRANSFERRING SOMETHING SOMETHING FROM HEAVEN TO THE WOMB...that lie bursted.

He is now chasing shadow

Human spirit is a person and the spirit knows human THOUGHT only a person have ability to know thought.

Proof me wrong on this first!

Still on that text

Ecc 12:7 " Return "

What came from God into the baby in the womb ?

A. Nothing
B. spirit Person
C. Breath of life


Whatever you pick in the option will tell us what RETURNS.

Emusan:
That is why you claimed the Bible is contradictory.

But now pretending to be defending the same contradictory Book.

You can't eat your cake and also have it.

Jesus knows ALL THINGS.

That makes Him God Almighty.

God almighty dey get who greater than him? Olodo.


Jesus never said he knows all things , but he confess to not knowing the day and hour. This is the perfect testimony

Where did you reply YES?

Lying liar!

If the Father can hide something from the Son, that means they are NOT ONE which even your organization interpret as HAVING ONE INTENT.

This your delusion will outgrowing you don't worry

Cos you are a fool

If I hide some information from my wife, it means we are not one according to your useless thought.

The Father hide the day and hour from the Son! scriptural Fact Matt 24:36

CAPTIVATOR:
Holy spirit is a force , the same way the spirit of man is a Force. If holy spirit is a person , Jesus lied when he said nobody knows except the Father because holy spirit must know.

Secondly, it means Holy spirit is GREATER Than Jesus. You can speak against Jesus and be forgiven, but sin against holy spirit is not forgivable, that's the proof that The person holy spirit is greater than Jesus. Dump that heresy you are spreading

Your ignorance is captivating.

Are these referencess the only ones made about HOLY SPIRIT?
by Jesus

Please paste them and analyze.

I know you will dodge this challenge

CAPTIVATOR:
Holy spirit is a force , the same way the spirit of man is a Force. If holy spirit is a person , Jesus lied when he said nobody knows except the Father because holy spirit must know.

Secondly, it means Holy spirit is GREATER Than Jesus. You can speak against Jesus and be forgiven, but sin against holy spirit is not forgivable, that's the proof that The person holy spirit is greater than Jesus. Dump that heresy you are spreading

sin can only e committed against a person. It means the holy Spirit is a person

Emusan:
So, which means God is indescribable, is that right?

His personality is not
. you're the ones that call him a mystery by means of your dirty, pagan Trinity

Emusan:
BUT THE SON KNOWS ALL THINGS.

I need clarification about this verse.

In Matthew 24:36 (NIV), it states,
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

If Jesus is the one speaking, why did He say He didn’t know if He actually did? What was His purpose in saying He was unaware?

Aemmyjah:
His personality is not
. you're the ones that call him a mystery by means of your dirty, pagan Trinity

Personality are just character and quality about a person not the whole BEING of a person.

So, you agreed only the personality is describable while other aspect ARE INDESCRIBABLE, right?

Petalss:
I need clarification about this verse.

In Matthew 24:36 (NIV), it states,
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

If Jesus is the one speaking, why did He say He didn’t know if He actually did? What was His purpose in saying He was unaware?

You don't need clarity.

Stop lying.

You already on this and I've done before.

So, stop dragging us backward!

CAPTIVATOR:
God almighty dey get who greater than him? Olodo.

That was the human part.

No can can be compare to God Almighty but scripture didn't only compare Jesus Christ but put Him on the same Level.

Jesus never said he knows all things , but he confess to not knowing the day and hour. This is the perfect testimony

Still keep spewing the nonsense.

That statement was made in the presence of Jesus, and Jesus went to ENDORSED IT.


Shabi....that was the reason your evil mind said, Bible contains contradiction.

Cos you are a fool

If I hide some information from my wife, it means we are not one according to your useless thought.

Oponu....radarada.

Yes you're not ONE THE MOMENT YOU HIDE ANYTHING FROM YOUR WIFE.

Oneness is about having the same INTENT, how can you have THE SAME INTENT WITH ANOTHER WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HIDE SOMETHING FROM THEM?

Reason, it took you time before you answered that question and at the end you still displayed your emptiness.

The Father hide the day and hour from the Son! scriptural Fact Matt 24:36

Then they are NOT ONE INTENT.

That is the fact.

Meaning, Jesus lied!

CAPTIVATOR:
Why are you afraid to answer

Do spirit person return to heaven with Physical body as mentioned in Matt 10:28?

If no, that means the text isn't about any spirit. Showing the spirit that return to God remain with God.

Matt 10 is about God having the final say over the dead.

God didn't bury people in the grave.

Oponu

You are yet to prove that God judge what return to heaven! What we have at Matt 10:28 is a fully functioning human body

Function but is about DEAD.

You see the reason I said you're OPONU

Still on that text

Ecc 12:7 " Return "

What came from God into the baby in the womb ?

A. Nothing
B. spirit Person
C. Breath of life

Whatever you pick in the option will tell us what RETURNS.

Nothing came from God into the BABY IN THE WOMB

Stop spewing this nonsense and stop disgracing yourself on public forum.

Not even when the nonsense you said about Job was refuted.

Emusan:
You don't need clarity.

Stop lying.

You already on this and I've done before.

So, stop dragging us backward!

I assure you that I am being honest and not trying to hold anyone back. If you had provided clear explanations regarding the verse I referenced, I wouldn’t have needed to ask for clarification again.

Additionally, the other person addressed you multiple times, yet I still couldn't find any clear reasoning behind why Jesus stated that He did not know certain things. The only insight I could find was your assertion that "Jesus knows all things."

Petalss:
I assure you that I am being honest and not trying to hold anyone back. If you had provided clear explanations regarding the verse I referenced, I wouldn’t have needed to ask for clarification again.

Additionally, the other person addressed you multiple times, yet I still couldn't find any clear reasoning behind why Jesus stated that He did not know certain things. The only insight I could find was your assertion that "Jesus knows all things."

Jesus knows everything that has to do with his father's will {John 21:17} this could come from any normal human who is astonished at your level of understanding regarding what matters most to him for instance a Nairalander once said to me:

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

But does that mean MaxInDhouse truly knows everything?
Of course the answer is NO that's why Jesus made it clear to his disciples that even though he knows everything about his father's will {Matthew 11:27} but as for the day and hour God will give him the order to go and destroy all evildoers he does not know! Matthew 24:36

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus knows everything that has to do with his father's will {John 21:17} this could come from any normal human who is astonished at your level of understanding regarding what matters most to him for instance a Nairalander once said to me:

But does that mean MaxInDhouse truly knows everything?
Of course the answer is NO that's why Jesus made it clear to his disciples that even though he knows everything about his father's will {Matthew 11:27} but as for the day and hour God will give him the order to go and destroy all evildoers he does not know! Matthew 24:36

Thank you for the clarification.

This reflects a contrast between what Jesus himself said and what others may have claimed on his behalf.