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Under the Old Testament, God mandated tithing primarily to ensure the Levites, who served full-time in the temple. A voluntary system of contributions might have left them struggling to meet their basic needs.

In the same way, many servants of God are serving in the house of God today, with most of them working full-time. Additionally, the church employs staff, many of whom are university graduates. How do you expect them to be paid if there isn't a structured system to fund their salaries?

Tithing is simply a matter of common sense. Just as the government collects taxes to maintain infrastructure, tithes are given to maintain the house of God and support those who work within it.

Do not undermine the church's financial foundation with anti-tithing teachings.

While it’s true that the New Testament does not explicitly command the collection of tithes, there is also no instruction to stop the practice.

In fact, Jesus gave the church authority to decide what it permits and forbids—Matthew 18:18.

Ironically, many who now preach against tithing built their ministries through it. Having established various investments that generate income, they seek to hinder younger ministries that still rely on this biblical principle.

MaxInDHouse:
People are gaining their freedom from spiritual bondage [John 8:32} business is over!

Neither you nor your fellow robbers can stop the freedom of right thinking people!

It's not a crime or sin to be giving a % of your income to the church but...

As far as Christ's teachings /Christianity is concerned, all giving including tithes, should be done willingly without any form of compulsion or manipulation.

MaxInDHouse:
Neither you nor your fellow robbers can stop the freedom of right thinking people!

Awkward thinking .

I think your organization does not have people working full time. I knew one anyway.

GanagiBitrus:
It's not a crime or sin to be giving a % of your income to the church but...

As far as Christ's teachings /Christianity is concerned, all giving including tithes, should be done willingly without any form of compulsion or manipulation.

what is wrong with giving offerings alone, and calling members to support a project when there is one.

Please please this should end already....

Ken4Christ:
Under the Old Testament, God mandated tithing primarily to ensure the Levites, who served full-time in the temple. A voluntary system of contributions might have left them struggling to meet their basic needs.

In the same way, many servants of God are serving in the house of God today, with most of them working full-time. Additionally, the church employs staff, many of whom are university graduates. How do you expect them to be paid if there isn't a structured system to fund their salaries?

Tithing is simply a matter of common sense. Just as the government collects taxes to maintain infrastructure, tithes are given to maintain the house of God and support those who work within it.

Do not undermine the church's financial foundation with anti-tithing teachings.

While it’s true that the New Testament does not explicitly command the collection of tithes, there is also no instruction to stop the practice.

In fact, Jesus gave the church authority to decide what it permits and forbids—Matthew 18:18.

Ironically, many who now preach against tithing built their ministries through it. Having established various investments that generate income, they seek to hinder younger ministries that still rely on this biblical principle.

The problem here is you do not understand the history of tithe in Nigeria

Tithing is a recent practice developed by pentecostal ministries in Nigeria

Orthodox churches, like Methodist church of Nigeria did not collect tithe in Nigeria until the 1980's.

The Catholic church till date does not collect tithe in Nigeria

If tithing is essential to the financial foundation of a ministry, it would have been adopted much earlier in Nigeria

What tithing is in Nigeria is a perversion of the biblical principles. It is a symptom of the corrupt state of Nigeria.

An archbishop in Methodist church of blessed memory once told us ,'The church is filled with politicians..the only difference is they are playing in a different arena'.

jUeLiZ:
what is wrong with giving offerings alone, and calling members to support a project when there is one.

Please please this should end already....

Even "giving offerings & calling members to support a project" becomes wrong if they are compelled or manipulated to do so.

MightySparrow:
Awkward thinking .
I think your organization does not have people working full time. I knew one anyway.

Good you know that there are full time evangelizers in true Christianity and for your information we are not paying tithe for their upkeep!

Ken4Christ:
Under the Old Testament, God mandated tithing primarily to ensure the Levites, who served full-time in the temple. A voluntary system of contributions might have left them struggling to meet their basic needs.

In the same way, many servants of God are serving in the house of God today, with most of them working full-time. Additionally, the church employs staff, many of whom are university graduates. How do you expect them to be paid if there isn't a structured system to fund their salaries?

Tithing is simply a matter of common sense. Just as the government collects taxes to maintain infrastructure, tithes are given to maintain the house of God and support those who work within it.

Do not undermine the church's financial foundation with anti-tithing teachings.

While it’s true that the New Testament does not explicitly command the collection of tithes, there is also no instruction to stop the practice.

In fact, Jesus gave the church authority to decide what it permits and forbids—Matthew 18:18.

Ironically, many who now preach against tithing built their ministries through it. Having established various investments that generate income, they seek to hinder younger ministries that still rely on this biblical principle.

Eff of, go and sell your family to appease men in the name of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Good you know that there are full time evangelizers in true Christianity and for your information we are not paying tithe for their upkeep!

I pity the guy, he wasn't married then. I wonder how he would be able to take care of his wife and children. He could trek the whole Lagos. Can you see the pastors of tithe paying churches? They are happier.
The Governing Body members are living in mansions deceiving folks.

SocialJustice:
Eff of, go and sell your family to appease men in the name of God.

Keep your money. Those who love God don't struggle to support the work with 10%. After all, your government forces you to pay more as tax and you have never complained. They use your tax money to enrich themselves but you don't bother about it

Geovanni412:
The problem here is you do not understand the history of tithe in Nigeria

Tithing is a recent practice developed by pentecostal ministries in Nigeria

Orthodox churches, like Methodist church of Nigeria did not collect tithe in Nigeria until the 1980's.

The Catholic church till date does not collect tithe in Nigeria

If tithing is essential to the financial foundation of a ministry, it would have been adopted much earlier in Nigeria

What tithing is in Nigeria is a perversion of the biblical principles. It is a symptom of the corrupt state of Nigeria.

An archbishop in Methodist church of blessed memory once told us ,'The church is filled with politicians..the only difference is they are playing in a different arena'.

Tithe is as old as the church. It’s not a new thing. 10% is not too much to support a good course like the gospel. If that was God's demand under the Old Testament to support the Levites, should we give less under the New Testament that we have his grace at work in us. So many give over 50% of their income for the gospel sake. And you are struggling to give 10%. You must be very stingy.

Ken4Christ:
Tithe is as old as the church. It’s not a new thing. 10% is not too much to support a good course like the gospel. If that was God's demand under the Old Testament to support the Levites, should we give less under the New Testament that we have his grace at work in us. So many give over 50% of their income for the gospel sake. And you are struggling to give 10%. You must be very stingy.

And what is the result of them giving 50% of their income?

God does not look at how much you give but at your heart.

Prosperity has nothing to do with tithing or donating to the church

Arabs , atheists and freemasons are wealthy and they don't give tithes

If you want to give, give as you are led and not out of compulsion or necessity ,for God loves a cheerful giver.- 2 Corinthians 9:7-8

MightySparrow:
I pity the guy, he wasn't married then. I wonder how he would be able to take care of his wife and children. He could trek the whole Lagos. Can you see the pastors of tithe paying churches? They are happier.
The Governing Body members are living in mansions deceiving folks.

See faithlessness in action!

Regarding highlighted this is what Jesus has to say :

The disciples said to him: “If that is the situation of a man with his wife, it is not advisable to marry.” He said to them: “Not all men make room for the saying, but only those who have the gift. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs on account of the Kingdom of the heavens. Let the one who can make room for it make room for it.” Matthew 19:10-12

Can you see how real faithful servants of God are thinking in the highlighted in blue?
And can you see Jesus' encouragement for such ones in the highlighted in green?

Well your pastors can't be happier than Jesus and Paul both dedicated their whole life for the ministry and they never thought of marrying nor raising children! 1Corinthians 7:1

MaxInDHouse:
See faithlessness in action!

Regarding highlighted this is what Jesus has to say :

The disciples said to him: “If that is the situation of a man with his wife, it is not advisable to marry.” He said to them: “Not all men make room for the saying, but only those who have the gift. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs on account of the Kingdom of the heavens. Let the one who can make room for it make room for it.” Matthew 19:10-12

Can you see how real faithful servants of God are thinking in the highlighted in blue?
And can you see Jesus' encouragement for such ones in the highlighted in green?

Well your pastors can't be happier than Jesus and Paul both dedicated their whole life for the ministry and they never thought of marrying nor raising children! 1Corinthians 7:1

So your organization copy Catholic's celibacy.
That's interesting.
The Catholic priests are enjoying nah?! This guy to be get a bicycle, Kai.

MightySparrow:
So your organization copy Catholic's celibacy.
That's interesting.
The Catholic priests are enjoying nah?! This guy to be get a bicycle, Kai.

Now you're proving true what i often call you "faithless"
How many means of communication did Jesus or Paul had during their time?

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're proving true what i often call you "faithless"
How many means of communication did Jesus or Paul had during their time?

Catholicism were about two millennia before both Russell and Rutherford. Do you say that Catholic copied your organization?

MightySparrow:
Catholicism were about two millennia before both Russell and Rutherford. Do you say that Catholic copied your organization?

Faithlessness is your problem because if the Catholics are holding the Bible does that mean whoever hold the Bible belongs to Catholic?

MaxInDHouse:
Faithlessness is your problem because if the Catholics are holding the Bible does that mean whoever hold the Bible belongs to Catholic?

Okay, your organization agrees with Catholic on celibacy because both of you hold the Bible.

MightySparrow:
Okay, your organization agrees with Catholic on celibacy because both of you hold the Bible.

Christians don't believe in celibacy it's due to your faithlessness that makes you a novice regarding what Jesus and Apostle Paul meant and instead of asking to know the difference between what Catholics are doing and what true disciples of Christ believe you just muddle it up out of ignorance.

The Catholics have a separate group serving in their religion under celibacy and you can't be ranked along with them unless you remain unmarried but in Christianity being unmarried doesn't give you any privilege or position above other believers it's you who feels that's what can make you perform better as an evangelizer so in God's organization those who choose to be eunuchs aren't greater and there is no special sacred service they can render that others can't so far they have dedicated their lives to God.
That's why Peter who has a wife can be an Apostle of Christ as well as Paul who chose to be an eunuch can serve in the same capacity!

Geovanni412:
And what is the result of them giving 50% of their income?

God does not look at how much you give but at your heart.

Prosperity has nothing to do with tithing or donating to the church

Arabs , atheists and freemasons are wealthy and they don't give tithes

If you want to give, give as you are led and not out of compulsion or necessity ,for God loves a cheerful giver.- 2 Corinthians 9:7-8

If God is not concerned about how much you give, why did he reject Cains offering?

Why did Jesus monitored how they gave their offerings on one occasion and made comments about it?

Why did God respond to King Solomons offering he gave in 1st Kings 3?

God is sure concerned about both what you give and the state of your heart

Ken4Christ:
If God is not concerned about how much you give, why did he reject Cains offering?

Why did Jesus monitored how they gave their offerings on one occasion and made comments about it?

Why did God respond to King Solomons offering he gave in 1st Kings 3?

God is sure concerned about both what you give and the state of your heart

Which biblical scholar told you Cain's gifts were rejected because of the size rather than because of his heart?

Cite one reference here

Also, 1 kings 3 said nothing about God being pleased with King Solomon because of the size of the offering.

jUeLiZ:
■ what is wrong with giving offerings alone, and calling members to support a project when there is one.
Please please this should end already....

All these projects una dey fund, who send una? Na so una take fund Oyedepo's purchase of private airplanes, come even get landing strip for his church so he can bypass all other Nigerians out there at the airports and on the roads when he is going wherever it is he is going. Na, Oyedepo's mansions, and bank accounts una come to build? Why Oyedepo no come fund una own mansions and bank accounts instead? See this foolishness... na only una go fit rid una self of am!

MaxInDHouse:
Christians don't believe in celibacy it's due to your faithlessness that makes you a novice regarding what Jesus and Apostle Paul meant and instead of asking to know the difference between what Catholics are doing and what true disciples of Christ believe you just muddle it up out of ignorance.

The Catholics have a separate group serving in their religion under celibacy and you can't be ranked along with them unless you remain unmarried but in Christianity being unmarried doesn't give you any privilege or position above other believers it's you who feels that's what can make you perform better as an evangelizer so in God's organization those who choose to be eunuchs aren't greater and there is no special sacred service they can render that others can't so far they have dedicated their lives to God.
That's why Peter who has a wife can be an Apostle of Christ as well as Paul who chose to be an eunuch can serve in the same capacity!

Your definitions are different but the same working. It is just a matter of Community Truth. JWs' monks and Catholic monks.

It is like using a cutlass to fell a tree or axe for the same purpose. It doesn't make any difference!

MightySparrow:
Your definitions are different but the same working. It is just a matter of Community Truth. JWs' monks and Catholic monks.
It is like using a cutlass to fell a tree or axe for the same purpose. It doesn't make any difference!

So you believe Jesus and Paul were Catholic monks since they never married shey?

MaxInDHouse:
So you believe Jesus and Paul were Catholic monks since they never married shey?

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See old man's thinking. Which one came first?
Is it not the sayings of Paul and Jesus that your organization and Catholics interpreted to get yourselves monks?

MightySparrow:
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See old man's thinking. Which one came first?
Is it not the sayings of Paul and Jesus that your organization and Catholics interpreted to get yourselves monks?

Ẹn nah! It's not just what they said but how they lived their lives.
So Jesus and Paul were monks since they were the first to lay the foundation not so?

MaxInDHouse:
Ẹn nah! It's not just what they said but how they lived their lives.
So Jesus and Paul were monks since they were the first to lay the foundation not so?

Are you a Monk also living after Jesus and Paul?

MightySparrow:
Are you a Monk also living after Jesus and Paul?

Neither Jesus nor Paul said it's a prerequisite for anything rather it's left for each believer to decide whether it will help him focus more on the kingdom work! Matthew 19:12; 1Corinthians 7:1-2

Can you see why i often call you a faithless miscreant?

MaxInDHouse:
Neither Jesus nor Paul said it's a prerequisite for anything rather it's left for each believer to decide whether it will help him focus more on the kingdom work! Matthew 19:12; 1Corinthians 7:1-2

Can you see why i often call you a faithless miscreant?

So celibacy will not help your kingdom work or you are dodging responsibility?

MightySparrow:
So celibacy will not help your kingdom work or you are dodging responsibility?

Ask Peter and the others who married nah, àbí you've forgotten they are the foundation of Christianity?

MaxInDHouse:
Ask Peter and the others who married nah, àbí you've forgotten they are the foundation of Christianity?

Okay nah.
You don't resemble Paul and Jesus but take after Peter.