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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Housing(m): 8:41pm On Oct 09, 2024
gidgiddy:
You don't know what a Republic is? A Republic simply means you are self governing. Nigeria was a Republic since October 1 1960
Nigeria was a Republic before the Coup yes, but a Federation and practice Federalism. Aguiyi Ironsi abrogated Federalism with Decree 34. When a Republic stop practicing Federalism it is only left with Unitary.

Why did Aguyi Ironsi arrested Adaka Boro through Odumekwu Ojuku?

Adaka Boro decided to secede Niger Delta from Nigeria due to the abrogation of Federalism, which is tantamount to end of regional government.

Aguyi Ironsi arrested Isaac Adaka Boro through Ojukwu and sentenced him to death.
For every action there is equal and opposite reaction.

Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by biaframaster200: 10:09pm On Oct 09, 2024
I doubt if the writer of this article is not an impostor. IBO. People are desperate. ..wanting to change history by all means.

You can try harder. ........
Aguyi. Ironsi is the originator of the problem of this country.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mrexcell(m): 11:50pm On Oct 09, 2024
Raf4:
The same people you're referring to also demanded that secession clause be included in the constitution. Today, those who demanded for it do not want to hear about it whereas those who objected to it are the ones clamouring for it. So, what's your point?
It clearly shows that those who clamoured for the secession clause never meant it but were just using it for political bargain cause if they really meant it they would have done everything to make it a reality after being in power for so long.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Uchek(m): 1:00am On Oct 10, 2024
Yes O!

Noblechykk:
Lies can travel a thousand miles but truth will definitely catch up
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by BALLOSKI: 2:47am On Oct 10, 2024
Story! So, Gowon came before Ironsi? He only stood on what he met on ground to create more states.

Ironsi is the main culprit.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Uchek(m): 3:31am On Oct 10, 2024
U referenced the opinion of a Guardian columnist to substantiate your argument. How is the columnist u referenced definitive than Adele Ogun since both of them are personal opinions & claims? U accept narrative that supports your view & reject those that disagree with your view. HABA!

twosquare:
Ironsi already abrogated the resources of all the regions to the centre, thereby ending the regional autonomy. It is called unification decree for a reason. Gowon acted on what was on ground already.

"It was the decree that started the death of regionalism....General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating the Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into 12 states and provided military governors for each state. With decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried"

https://guardian.ng/opinion/history-and-the-future-of-decree-34-of-1966/

So, trying to pander to the feelings of your host or so is dishonest. When you have taken all the resources to the centre, what remains?

Aguiyi Ironsi abolished regionalism and resource control...Gowon, out of necessity due to Ojukwu's rebellion, further buried it by breaking it up into 12 states.


Read: https://x.com/renoomokri/status/1670355943328997378
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Christistruth02: 6:15am On Oct 10, 2024
biaframaster200:
I doubt if the writer of this article is not an impostor. IBO. People are desperate. ..wanting to change history by all means.

You can try harder. ........
Aguyi. Ironsi is the originator of the problem of this country.
Fake News Propaganda



Gen Ironsi abolished Regions and Regional Autonomy


This was the Speech Gen Ironsi gave afterwards and he owned up to abolishing the Region's with his full Chest!!!!

Nobody should change his Story

Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mbanda(m): 6:45am On Oct 10, 2024
Noblechykk:
Lies can travel a thousand miles but truth will definitely catch up
Fear Agbadorians which includes, helinues, yarimo and the Igbo wannabe (okoroawusa). This people can lie for Africa.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by helinues: 6:46am On Oct 10, 2024
Mbanda:
Fear Agbadorians which includes, helinues, yarimo and the Igbo wannabe (okoroawusa). This people can lie for Africa.
How have you been able to maintain your sanity with this years of daily trolling?
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mbanda(m): 6:56am On Oct 10, 2024
helinues:
How have you been able to maintain your sanity with this years of daily trolling?
In one of your numerous yeye posts, you said wike is not responsible for what is happening in rivers state, that fubara is misbehaving. And after lying you expect we the reasonable ones not to call you to order?
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by helinues: 7:00am On Oct 10, 2024
Mbanda:
In one of your numerous yeye posts, you said wike is not responsible for what is happening in rivers state, that fubara is misbehaving. And after lying you expect we the reasonable ones not to call you to order?
Stop sounding incoherently.

You are not even consciously aware of that
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mbanda(m): 7:04am On Oct 10, 2024
helinues:
Stop sounding incoherently.

You are not even consciously aware of that
Your lies concerning lekki toll gate is still fresh in our hearts.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by helinues: 7:05am On Oct 10, 2024
Mbanda:
Your lies concerning lekki toll gate is still fresh in our hearts.
Irredeemable case with the incoherency.

It's a pity
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mbanda(m): 7:10am On Oct 10, 2024
helinues:
Irredeemable case with the incoherency.

It's a pity
Una god and personal saviour (rino) is now a known liar courtesy APC lying camp 🤣🤪
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 7:24am On Oct 10, 2024
Christistruth02:
Fake News Propaganda



Gen Ironsi abolished Regions and Regional Autonomy


This was the Speech Gen Ironsi gave afterwards and he owned up to abolishing the Region's with his full Chest!!!!

Nobody should change his Story
You guys can keep posting your third party comments, but Gowons Decree 14 abolishing all 4 Region's Nigeria had, and creating 12 states, as well as Gowns Decree 15 that abolished resource control, is already in the public domain to tell people the truth-


There shall , on commencement of this Decree, be created out of the Regions, States to be known by the names in column of 1 of the Shedule of this Decree

Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by IseyinIsese: 7:41am On Oct 10, 2024
helinues:
Stop sounding incoherently.

You are not even consciously aware of that
Do you sound coherent at all?
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by IseyinIsese: 7:52am On Oct 10, 2024
helinues:
Irredeemable case with the incoherency.

It's a pity
Are you even redeemable at all?
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Christistruth02: 9:26am On Oct 10, 2024
gidgiddy:
You guys can keep posting your third party comments, but Gowons Decree 14 abolishing all 4 Region's Nigeria had, and creating 12 states, as well as Gowns Decree 15 that abolished resource control, is already in the public domain to tell people the truth-


There shall , on commencement of this Decree, be created out of the Regions, States to be known by the names in column of 1 of the Shedule of this Decree
How many times do we need to remind you that Ironsi left the Regions completely Powerless to make their
Own Laws and decisions without his influence?


Gen Ironsi with his own mouth announced that he had abolished the Regional Government

Western Regions UK Embassy was closed down because of it !!!

Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 9:38am On Oct 10, 2024
Christistruth02:
How many times do we need to remind you that Ironsi left the Regions completely Powerless to make their
Own Laws and decisions without his influence?


Gen Ironsi with his own mouth announced that he had abolished the Regional Government

Western Regions UK Embassy was closed down because of it !!!
People like this are funny. Look at what you are posting as your source of proof over a military Decree

You that is posting this, don't you have brains to know that the neat layer jet print out you are posting did not exist in 1966? It didn't even exist in 70's

Posting third party nonsense from Dawodu.com when people are posting Decrees themselves
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:41am On Oct 10, 2024
danvon:
Regionalism wasn't even a good thing, Gowon was very wise for abolishing it, unlike Aguiyi he opted for Federalism not Unitary government.
You always want to make excuses. What Gowon did was never federalism it was even worse than the unitary decree. Because the unitary decree still kept the regions, the only thing the unitary decree did was to unify the civil service.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:44am On Oct 10, 2024
GeneralPula:
That’s his personal opinion and that won’t change the truth..

Ironsi scrapped our regionalism..

One of the major reasons Ibo killed Saudana & Akintola was simply cuz it wouldn’t be possible to scrapped our regionalism if they were alive. They had to plan and use a coup to kill them, thereby paving way for their plans..

They wanted to control the whole of Nigeria from the center but they forgot man proposes, God disposes! Azikwe knew there was going to be a coup, he fled away I think 2 days to the planned coup day. It was all planned by them to snatch power!

I just love the fact that Ironsi didn’t end well! He was killed like a church rat and I so love that..
You see you can never have sense till you die. How did Ironsi abolish regionalism when he still appointed military governors for the regions. He still kept the revenue and the regional structure intact.
What he only did with unitary decree was to unify the civil service. Don't let your hatred for igbos make you invite curses on yourself and your lineage.

You said igbos killed sardauna in the coup. Okay please tell me is Ademoyega, Captain Adeleke and Lt Fola Oyewole igbos because they participated in the coup. You can never have sense till you die.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:49am On Oct 10, 2024
sulaak:
Aguiyi Ironsi's decree 34 abolished the regional system in Nigeria.

The military government is not, by definition, unitary, but Ironsi abolished the regional system because he believed that the regions were not loyal to the Nigerian constitution. Gowon exacerbated the problem of the unitary state, but the fault lies with Aguiyi Ironsi's Decree 34
Oga you people should know when to give up and throw in the towel. Ironsi never abolished regional system it was Gowon that did it. Ironsi only centralised the civil service.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:50am On Oct 10, 2024
Softmirror:
It's not about being Yoruba or being Igbo or Hausa. It's about being sincere and objective. The author is only catching straws just like you.
Dude you are the one catching straws. Try and learn to give up and throw in the towel.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:52am On Oct 10, 2024
Christistruth00:
grin
Fake News Propaganda



Gen Ironsi abolished Regions and Regional Autonomy


This was the Speech Gen Ironsi gave afterwards and he owned up to abolishing the Region's with his full Chest!!!!

Don't change his Story
Oga stop being stupid. You should learn to give up and stop lying with confidence. Look at the decree 34 document, you will see that technically Ironsi didn’t abolish the regions. He still kept the military governors of the regions.
You have raised these issues before and I countered you countless times.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:53am On Oct 10, 2024
[quote author=Christistruth00 post=132348875][/quote]Oga stop being daft. Learn to give up and throw in the towel.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:54am On Oct 10, 2024
Softmirror:
😂😂😂😂😂😂 The Truth is the Truth.
It is your truth and not the truth in itself. Oga your hatred for igbos will be your ruin and the curses will follow you till you die.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:56am On Oct 10, 2024
Raf4:
Don't mind them. We know very well who declared the draconian decree 34 and the reasons behind it. One Dele Ologun that wasn't born then cannot rewite the history now. Obasanjo was the 1st president to rule based on the current Nigerian constitution, but you cannot tell us now that Obj is the author of it.
Oga try and have sense. Decree 34 was borne out of the limitations of the situation at that time. Oga stop this show of stupidity and face reality.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by cybernaut(m): 9:57am On Oct 10, 2024
NairalandForumo:
One major criteria to be a Tinubu supporter is to hate one certain tribe and that is what Reno is doing, his lies keep getting busted



I've said it to those asking for regional government that it might not work, regional government is what led Nigeria to where it is today, Nigeria needs to break up because we don't share the same regional ideology especially on politics and leadership.
one Nigeria will be disintegrated and is eminent
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:58am On Oct 10, 2024
9gerian:
Exactly. After the coup, the remnants of the government’s cabinet actually tried to continue especially as the coup had been quashed.

Some accounts have it that Ironsi stopped them, and with the collaboration of Nwafor Orizu transferred power to himself under the guidance of Azikiwe who was in constant communication monitoring the ensuing outcome of events.

In other words, the coup did not destroy regional autonomy. It was Ironsi stepping in as a military head of state, and a few months later promulgating the unification decree 34 of May 1966.

The trajectory could have been different had Ironsi remained a professional soldier, and kept the military out of the whole equation after the coup. Well, he took a chance and risked Nigeria’s fragile democracy and with it its development.
Oga stop twisting accounts. Your hatred for igbos will not make you see reason and throw in the towel, yet you are still grasping to the same lies.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:01am On Oct 10, 2024
Housing:
May God bless you abolition of Nigeria as a Federation but a Republic was done by Ironsi
Did he abolish regions? That is the question here? No he didn't. The structure was still there he decided that regions should be called collection of provinces, and in hindsight what is the definition of a region? It is a collection of provinces.
You guy claim to be educated, but cannot make deductive reasoning all because you are blinded by hatred and bigotry.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by sulaak(m): 10:02am On Oct 10, 2024
Realtruth2023:
Oga you people should know when to give up and throw in the towel. Ironsi never abolished regional system it was Gowon that did it. Ironsi only centralised the civil service.
See the research paper from your own Igbo countryman. Ironsi promulgated the unification decree No 34

http://eprints.gouni.edu.ng/2268/1/RENAISSANCE%20UNIVERISTY%20JOURNAL%20OF%20MANAGE%20MENT%20AND%20SOCIAL%20SCIENCES%20%28RUJMASS%29.pdf

Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:02am On Oct 10, 2024
twosquare:
Why return to something that won't benefit the political class?...this present system benefits them more for their corruption. Easy to hide under Abuja than put in the work in a regional system. One bloc started it to benefit themselves but lost out in the power tussle. The beneficiary who once rioted because of it gained the system and said wait o, this will benefit us more and refused to let go.

It is a case of the goat taking the bread from the child...the goat won't leave the bread alone afterwards but will run away with it.
Sorry which bloc started it? Try and be bold and mention the name.
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