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23jerryking:
Even the Russian S-400 Triumph can be overwhelmed. That's the way to bypass those stuffs, claiming it's overhyped and all of that is totally unacceptable, especially coming from a Nigerian boy/man.

It's fair to say they're over hyped because Iran's missiles were their first real test and they were found wanting

I've seen here how Russia's S-400 have been slammed by Ukraine supporters and they've been doing well in Ukraine against all kinds of attacks

Let's not forget that Israel didn't only rely on their own defenses, there were the Arab governments, the western allies (US,UK,France etc) who were there to intercept on behalf of Israel

The assessment isn't good

motayoayinde:
He's not done yet 😂.
He's still posting about iron Dome.

The pro-west guys have a hard time conceding to better points, it's as if they fear that doing so will make them doubt everything they believe

motayoayinde:
What AD will do magic now that Arrow, David sling and THAAD all failed against the last Iranian onslaught?

I remember how much they boasted about their "multilayered air defence systems" involving a coalition of allies.

And isreal needs to tread carefully this period because any little mistake and she will be in soup.
Attacking Iran is not the problem but the ripple effect of the aftermath.. Iran striking back by blowing up military bases, military runways for fighter jets thereby rendering them useless in whatever hangers they are means Isreal is foocked and placed at the defensive side.
With the air force being rendered useless, it is a greenlight for many groups at the border to attack since all battles now will be on ground
Air has been the cheat code they have been using to wipe off enemies and taking that out will spell a doom for them

IMEI:
It's fair to say they're over hyped because Iran's missiles were their first real test and they were found wanting

I've seen here how Russia's S-400 have been slammed by Ukraine supporters and they've been doing well in Ukraine against all kinds of attacks

Let's not forget that Israel didn't only rely on their own defenses, there were the Arab governments, the western allies (US,UK,France etc) who were there to intercept on behalf of Israel

The assessment isn't good

Okay then, but one thing though, let's assume there are about 4 to 5 reasons as to why an air defense mechanism no matter how sophisticated can be assumed to have failed.

1. For instance, Israel's air defense systems are designed to handle a certain number of incoming threats. If Iran launched a large, coordinated barrage of missiles, it could overwhelm the system's capacity, allowing some missiles to bypass the defenses. Does that render it useless? Not quite, but of course, as with everything else in the tech world, it cannot be perfect.

2. Forget about talks about sanctions and all of that. Iran has developed various missile systems, including long-range ballistic missiles that may be more sophisticated than the rockets Iron Dome typically intercepts. Missiles with maneuverable warheads, stealth characteristics, or even faster speeds can be harder to track and intercept.

3. I also think that the defense system can at some point witness a great deal of saturation. In the case of Israel that uses a layered defense system, including Iron Dome (short-range), David's Sling (medium-range), and Arrow (long-range) systems. A massive, simultaneous attack across different ranges could saturate multiple layers of the defense, making it difficult to stop all missiles. Iran understood this very well and played the cards almost to perfection.

4. Also, it should be noted that some missiles might be fired from angles or at trajectories that exploit gaps in radar coverage or defense systems. Particularly long-range missiles fired from Iran could come in from higher altitudes or different directions than those typically encountered from Gaza or Lebanon.

5. I also think that Iran may have used electronic countermeasures or decoys to confuse Israeli defense systems, disrupting radar and missile guidance systems.

6. Another thing I think is that maybe, just maybe the Israelis' air defense systems prioritize intercepting missiles that pose the greatest threat to populated areas. Some missiles may have been intentionally left to strike less critical targets to conserve resources for more dangerous ones. This is me just assuming though.

emmaodet:
And isreal needs to tread carefully this period because any little mistake and she will be in soup.
Attacking Iran is not the problem but the ripple effect of the aftermath.. Iran striking back by blowing up military bases, military runways for fighter jets thereby rendering them useless in whatever hangers they are means Isreal is foocked and placed at the defensive side.
With the air force being rendered useless, it is a greenlight for many groups at the border to attack since all battles now will be on ground
Air has been the cheat code they have been using to wipe off enemies and taking that out will spell a doom for them

Honestly I don't want them to tread carefully.
I also want them to make that mistake so that all you said (which are quite correct) can happen quickly, for the middle East to have peace and for the US to lose its vice grip over the region.

motayoayinde:
Honestly I don't want them to tread carefully.
I also want them to make that mistake so that all you said (which are quite correct) can happen quickly, for the middle East to have peace and for the US to lose its vice grip over the region.

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Natanyahu is reckless, yes. But believe me guy, he's not stupid. Israel are in a tight corner, if they strike Iran well enough it will be deemed as being "too far-fetched". And if they strike lightly, the response they'll get from Iran will be far more devastating. Remember they're fighting on multiple fronts already,it only remains to be seen whether they'll chose to respond at a far later period or they'll simply let this slide. But knowing Natanyahu sha... He might resume hostilities with Iran after they must have subdued Hamas and Hezbollah to a reasonable extent.

Vic2023:
Breaking: Esmail Qaani, Head of Iran's Quds Forces, had a heart attack while being interrogated for the suspicion of being an Israeli agent.

(Sky News Arabic)

I guess he was injected or he quickly swallowed a poisonous tablet before he starts spilling the beans or some cabals in the Iranian top echelon had to silence him before they get implicated too

Situation south of Lebanon [11/10/2024]:
After nine days of operation “Northern Arrows” the IDF has established a presence in the following locations: Yaroun, Maroun El-Ras, Aitaroun, Blida, Meiss el Jabal, Al Adeisseh & Kfarfela.
Hezbollah's resistance is tenacious, which has prevented Israeli troops from penetrating deep into Lebanese territory, mountainous and full of Lebanese militia positions, mostly local.
As a consequence, Israeli forces have resorted mainly to air power to attack Hezbollah bases in the territory in addition to the demolition of a large part of Lebanese villages, especially Maroun El-Ras, which could be considered the first Lebanese locality to be “taken” by Israel since the beginning of the offensive

Allthelight:
Situation south of Lebanon [11/10/2024]:
After nine days of operation “Northern Arrows” the IDF has established a presence in the following locations: Yaroun, Maroun El-Ras, Aitaroun, Blida, Meiss el Jabal, Al Adeisseh & Kfarfela.
Hezbollah's resistance is tenacious, which has prevented Israeli troops from penetrating deep into Lebanese territory, mountainous and full of Lebanese militia positions, mostly local.
As a consequence, Israeli forces have resorted mainly to air power to attack Hezbollah bases in the territory in addition to the demolition of a large part of Lebanese villages, especially Maroun El-Ras, which could be considered the first Lebanese locality to be “taken” by Israel since the beginning of the offensive

Pro hamas channels admit hezbollah has lost control of some villages

motayoayinde:
Aren't they all just as dumb?
And these vendors of mediocrity never hesitate to throw insults around in spite of their multilayered ignorance.

That's the only thing they are good at. That's why they prefer to be posting 'your prostitute mother is a,' your bastard father is b,' mumu, idi0t, etc over offering constructive arguments.

YouTube and Google should be renamed into NATO propaganda 1 and NATO propaganda 2.
You can't do a proper research on Google on anything concerning Ukraine, it was very hard to avoid Israeli propaganda on YouTube for more than a month, the way YouTube just forced Israeli propaganda on anybody watching YouTube in France (and probably everywhere in the west) was very disgusting.

All media and social media just turned into biased propaganda machines. Disgraceful !

obedience4:
Should be Nicaragua one of the poorest central America country breaks ties one of the biggest economy in the middle-east

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That's goes to show you that while some humans wouldn't mind worshiping anyone that has money, many are actually honorable.

Olatunji1929:
is this Israel that will send Iran back to stone age? and if you see the way Israel supporters in Nigeria are arrogantly hyping them, you will be thinking that they would have been in Beirut by now, when you have been fed propaganda all you life about Israel invisibility you won't have choice than to be parroting the same nonsense propaganda of Israel invisibility.

Don't blame them too much. Israel's victory in the 6-day war has convinced them that some imaginary entity is personally fighting for Israel himself. I've seen NLanders claiming that Israel could defeat Russia here so dem no fit surprise me 😂😂😂

Some have even claimed Nigeria could easily defeat Russia 🤣

They don't know that Ukraine was stronger than Israel before Ukraine and Russia started fighting.

FoolishBoy419:
Don't blame them too much. Israel's victory in the 6-day war has convinced them that some imaginary entity is personally fighting for Israel himself. I've seen NLanders claiming that Israel could defeat Russia here so dem no fit surprise me 😂😂😂

Ghostagain:
Some have even claimed Nigeria could easily defeat Russia 🤣

They don't know that Ukraine was stronger than Israel before Ukraine and Russia started fighting.

They are just something else bro 😂😂😂😂

And it's not like they are deliberately exaggerating their power or something. They truly believe that crap 100%

Cancri:
remember it took Iran month to retaliate
One thing is very sure Israel will retaliate but when?

It took Iran long to retaliate because you're master USA begged them not to and that there would be a ceasefire in Gaza. When Iran found out they lied, they responded.

23jerryking:
Okay then, but one thing though, let's assume there are about 4 to 5 reasons as to why an air defense mechanism no matter how sophisticated can be assumed to have failed.

1. For instance, Israel's air defense systems are designed to handle a certain number of incoming threats. If Iran launched a large, coordinated barrage of missiles, it could overwhelm the system's capacity, allowing some missiles to bypass the defenses. Does that render it useless? Not quite, but of course, as with everything else in the tech world, it cannot be perfect.

2. Forget about talks about sanctions and all of that. Iran has developed various missile systems, including long-range ballistic missiles that may be more sophisticated than the rockets Iron Dome typically intercepts. Missiles with maneuverable warheads, stealth characteristics, or even faster speeds can be harder to track and intercept.

3. I also think that the defense system can at some point witness a great deal of saturation. In the case of Israel that uses a layered defense system, including Iron Dome (short-range), David's Sling (medium-range), and Arrow (long-range) systems. A massive, simultaneous attack across different ranges could saturate multiple layers of the defense, making it difficult to stop all missiles. Iran understood this very well and played the cards almost to perfection.

4. Also, it should be noted that some missiles might be fired from angles or at trajectories that exploit gaps in radar coverage or defense systems. Particularly long-range missiles fired from Iran could come in from higher altitudes or different directions than those typically encountered from Gaza or Lebanon.

5. I also think that Iran may have used electronic countermeasures or decoys to confuse Israeli defense systems, disrupting radar and missile guidance systems.

6. Another thing I think is that maybe, just maybe the Israelis' air defense systems prioritize intercepting missiles that pose the greatest threat to populated areas. Some missiles may have been intentionally left to strike less critical targets to conserve resources for more dangerous ones. This is me just assuming though.

All you've stated are valid, though I have one correction to make: I never referred to the ADsystems as useless

FoolishBoy419:
Don't blame them too much. Israel's victory in the 6-day war has convinced them that some imaginary entity is personally fighting for Israel himself. I've seen NLanders claiming that Israel could defeat Russia here so dem no fit surprise me 😂😂😂

How are we even sure the 6 day war was fought by isreal alone? We were only fed by the western media about what happened.
With what am seeing so far, the west and Nato heavily supported them.
If not for social media today, we will still believe isreal is the one single handedly fighting in Gaza and Lebanon while the reverse is the case.
So many weapons coming from Germany, US, UK. Funds and spying supports.
We would have been told how brave they were blowing up embassy, Hezbollah bunkers etc without knowing US is the one behind.
If not for social media, we would have been praising Ukraine how bold they are to stand up to a bully like Russia and blowing up many Russian ships and military bases, meanwhile the US the brain behind it but just using Ukraine hand to act

Mille:
Lmao.

Are you blind? Can't you see the disclaimer in the so-called news and screenshot you shared.

"We only have the army's account of what happened here". Even the BBC that is only opinionated towards Israel is saying this is not our news but the Israeli army's official position.

"Account of what happened in that part of Lebanon, where the journalist visited."
Anyway, you have seen that IDF are deep in Lebanon territory as updated "couple of miles in Lebanon territory."

Allthelight:
Pro hamas channels admit hezbollah has lost control of some villages

You are a mugu. Shey na today Israel don dey claim and lie full everywhere? How many links from Jewish Wikipedia have I brought out now? Israel can't even capture 1 meter of Lebanon's land. They will struggle for eternity to hold on to even half meter. Oya the fourth link of small small villages wey Hezbollah kill IDF like termites in 2006
Search word: Battle of Ayta ash-Sha'b

emmaodet:
How are we even sure the 6 day war was fought by isreal alone? We were only fed by the western media about what happened.
With what am seeing so far, the west and Nato heavily supported them.
If not for social media today, we will still believe isreal is the one single handedly fighting in Gaza and Lebanon while the reverse is the case.
So many weapons coming from Germany, US, UK. Funds and spying supports.
We would have been told how brave they were blowing up embassy, Hezbollah bunkers etc without knowing US is the one behind.
If not for social media, we would have been praising Ukraine how bold they are to stand up to a bully like Russia and blowing up many Russian ships and military bases, meanwhile the US the brain behind it but just using Ukraine hand to act

This is absolutely true. The West used to enjoy complete media dominance at that time and everything they said was gold. Israel has been caught lying over a hundred times (by my estimates) since last year, and most of them had been reported as factual by western media. There's definitely much more to the story than we have been told

seunny4lif:
German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock stated that Putin is refusing to talk to Olaf Scholz -- Reuters

Putin refusal to talk to the German chanselor is a slap on the face of Germany, and this is making them uncomfortable.

FoolishBoy419:
Don't blame them too much. Israel's victory in the 6-day war has convinced them that some imaginary entity is personally fighting for Israel himself. I've seen NLanders claiming that Israel could defeat Russia here so dem no fit surprise me 😂😂😂

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NL front page is a complete shit show when it comes to these issues.

One claimed Israel can blow up all the power plants and communication gadgets in Iran with the press of a button.

Israel wan die finish for Lebanon. Laugh wan kill me since morning. The fight will be taken by Hezbollan inside Israel soon and they will slaughter them like the fowl wey them be

timesupnababa:
You are a mugu. Shey na today Israel don dey claim and lie full everywhere? How many links from Jewish Wikipedia have I brought out now? Israel can't even capture 1 meter of Lebanon's land. They will struggle for eternity to hold on to even half meter. Oya the fourth link of small small villages wey Hezbollah kill IDF like termites in 2006
Search word: Battle of Ayta ash-Sha'b

If you followed that news you will see that Israel lied that they took control of that city, before they where publicly disgraced

timesupnababa:
Israel wan die finish for Lebanon. Laugh wan kill me since morning. The fight will be taken by Hezbollan inside Israel soon and they will slaughter them like the fowl wey them be

The only time they meet a little bit well organized army.

timesupnababa:
Israel wan die finish for Lebanon. Laugh wan kill me since morning. The fight will be taken by Hezbollan inside Israel soon and they will slaughter them like the fowl wey them be

I think about 20 have been killed this morning alone going by news channels on TG.