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PEACE2023:
Which country harboured Abacha loot?
You guys have been brainwashed to believe these develop countries are Saint.
Tell me any African country where Abacha loot was hidden?
These guys are more corrupt than us.

Yes, that's true...but they engage in more corruption that hurts foreign countries.

How many Chinese, Arab, USA or UK or Brazilian officials have been caught hiding money in Nigeria?

Black Africans sold their own brethren into slavery in America & Arabia. How many Europeans or Arabs sold their own people to Black Africans?

That's the difference.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

They have seen the future.

PEACE2023:
Your assertion doesn't hold water

I am a Southerner and also work in a FGN parastatal. That is why I want you to be specific because your statement of employing people from the South do not go well with us especially those from South South. I know a CEO of an agency that employed people mostly from his region but a larger percentage from his local government.

Ejaisky:
I am a Southerner and also work in a FGN parastatal. That is why I want you to be specific because your statement of employing people from the South do not go well with us especially those from South South. I know a CEO of an agency that employed people mostly from his region but a larger percentage from his local government.

That's why most of this agencies are filled with dic_k head people.
Inside of them to employ based on merit its based on who is at the top....


Cry country

fastseo:
That's why most of this agencies are filled with dic_k head people.
Inside of them to employ based on merit its based on vwho is at the top....

Cry country

Very pathetic. Denying people who don't anyone opportunity.

PEACE2023:
Which country harboured Abacha loot?
You guys have been brainwashed to believe these develop countries are Saint.
Tell me any African country where Abacha loot was hidden?
These guys are more corrupt than us.

You are the brain washed one sha.
Abacha and other politicians that stole your money, you didn't fault them. It is the country they took the money to you are blaming. Do you know how much money flows through commercial banks in Western countries on a daily basis. How many can these Western countries track to know which is fraud and which is legit money? Your politicians don't steal with their names. They use proxies. Or you think Abacha looted these monies using his name? They all steal using proxies and those kind of monies are difficult to trace. But once a Western country discover the money was stolen from a country, they freeze that account. They will later send back the money to the country it was stolen from after due investigations while making sure the present govt at the time doesn't re-steal the money.

In the case of Abacha loot, after they discovered that the money was stolen, the account was frozen and a large part has been returned to Nigeria. What has your leaders done with recovered Abacha loot? Majority of those funds have been re-stolen.

Continue blaming innocent people while your demonic leaders continue to make sure you people don't see the light of the day.

And like I said, the police, judiciary, civil service, military etc are all corrupt institutions in Nigeria. That is what makes Nigeria a corrupt Nation. Not just politicians stealing alone.

Amayabor1:
You are the brain washed one sha.
Abacha and other politicians that stole your money, you didn't fault them. It is the country they took the money to you are blaming. Do you know how much money flows through commercial banks in Western countries on a daily basis. How many can these Western countries track to know which is fraud and which is legit money? Your politicians don't steal with their names. They use proxies. Or you think Abacha looted these monies using his name? They all steal using proxies and those kind of monies are difficult to trace. But once a Western country discover the money was stolen from a country, they freeze that account. They will later send back the money to the country it was stolen from after due investigations while making sure the present govt at the time doesn't re-steal the money.

In the case of Abacha loot, after they discovered that the money was stolen, the account was frozen and a large part has been returned to Nigeria. What has your leaders done with recovered Abacha loot? Majority of those funds have been re-stolen.

Continue blaming innocent people while your demonic leaders continue to make sure you people don't see the light of the day.

And like I said, the police, judiciary, civil service, military etc are all corrupt institutions in Nigeria. That is what makes Nigeria a corrupt Nation. Not just politicians stealing alone.

Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.

IbeOkehie:
This is the CORRUPTION that most people agree is holding Nigeria back. This one is NEPOTISM. And you're correct, this kind of thing is widespread in Nigeria.

Government jobs produce NOTHING and that's the truth in EVERY COUNTRY in the world.

Look at NNPC, blessed with everything needed and yet it can't operate ordinary refinery. People are there collecting huge salary for doing nothing.

Private sector is where people are producing wealth through innovation and hard work.

Keep enjoying 😉, let others make their own choices.

Good Luck to Nigeria

But you are clapping for Biden, Trump, macron and Trump who surround himself with his relatives in government.
Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
Wake up black man.

Ready2speak:
Sorry dear. It appears we are miles apart in our world view. I don't subscribe to such warped thinking. If I were to be in my early 50's, to be honest with you, I will seriously contemplate japa.

I know a particular organization where the people of the South does the doing while the privileged region does the getting of the pecks of office. So it becomes a case of monkey de work baboon de chop. So I ask you, is that fair?

Hewers of wood and drawers of water is not cool. It is slavery. Besides, opportunities for growth and development in ones chosen career is much more outside than here where infrastructure is atrociously insufficient.

Can you look at the schools over here and honestly say that what we have here is good enough for a thorough academic to excel? The universities that produce the core of administrators are lacking in funding in all the departments. One can't do proper research work here in any discipline. Will you want an academic remain here an end up a mediocre when there are several collages out there looking for such a person.

Professor Ilooba or so of UNN ended up working at immigration service and briefly headed the agency before he was replaced. How about that? Was the pay and facilities top notch that he should leave an academic environment and take up job in the immigration service a professor? Its absurd to say the least.

So my dear, sincerely speaking, it is a choice imposed on those leaving by the system.

No matter what you achieve in abroad as a black you are still a second class citizen and will be treated as such.

PEACE2023:
Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.

Very true. Continue to believe the Westerners are your problems. They are living good. How much did your president budget for presidential planes again? How much did your national Assembly budget for renovations of the national Assembly again? How much is minimum wage in Nigeria? Lol.

ednut1:
The Northerners have their reasons-
- they cant compete when merit is used ( we can see it in the jamb scores, common entrance scores etc)
- they dont like the west, many are in middle east , sudan etc. south is more influenced by the west.
-some northerners are satisfied with bare minimum, many southerners want better for themselves and children.

Lol, continue living in your alternate reality.

If you believe intelligence, smartness and brightness are attributes that belong to a southerner but not a northerner just because of geography you belong in the stone age.

There are northerners that will whoop your ass till kingdom come when it comes to merit but....

Hogwarthtrades:
Comment like that just show low effort and possibly no interaction with the northern region. It's the run of the mill typical erroneous stereotype / lores from previous generation.

Sadly, the same mistake made by the past is currently happening in real time. To reconfigure the system at this pace will take a generation starting with the young ones interested in joining the civil service and other areas.

I used to be angered by such takes, not anymore.

Most of the people pushing the 'dumb north' narrative cannot go toe to toe with an equally educated northerner, so they take solace in the habitual 'foul mouthing'.

PEACE2023:
No matter what you achieve in abroad as a black you are still a second class citizen and will be treated as such.

Why reduce the discuss to citizenship or what exactly is this naa?

Let keep to the talking point dear.
You have a failed system.and you want to excuse it and for primordial reasons you want to protect such a system?

Common Mr be real.
The so called directors in those parastatals don't they send their kids to schools abroad?
Ngozi Okonjo Iweala studied at Harvard and came down here to work and you can tell better her experience with those good for nothing guys in the ministry of finance and the presidency.
That's just one person they made every effort to rubbish.
Mr forget story and face facts.

Following......

Amayabor1:
You are the brain washed one sha.
Abacha and other politicians that stole your money, you didn't fault them. It is the country they took the money to you are blaming. Do you know how much money flows through commercial banks in Western countries on a daily basis. How many can these Western countries track to know which is fraud and which is legit money? Your politicians don't steal with their names. They use proxies. Or you think Abacha looted these monies using his name? They all steal using proxies and those kind of monies are difficult to trace. But once a Western country discover the money was stolen from a country, they freeze that account. They will later send back the money to the country it was stolen from after due investigations while making sure the present govt at the time doesn't re-steal the money.

In the case of Abacha loot, after they discovered that the money was stolen, the account was frozen and a large part has been returned to Nigeria. What has your leaders done with recovered Abacha loot? Majority of those funds have been re-stolen.

Continue blaming innocent people while your demonic leaders continue to make sure you people don't see the light of the day.

And like I said, the police, judiciary, civil service, military etc are all corrupt institutions in Nigeria. That is what makes Nigeria a corrupt Nation. Not just politicians stealing alone.

Where was this money's stashed mumu

sharpwriter:
Bàbá, na true you dey talk.... An average southerner is infected with the abroad greener pasture syndrome, our blind idea of life elsewhere in any colonial masters land is that the place is paradise and nothing of our own is nice for human beings to thrive on. The I better pass my neighbor syndrome is too strong here and makes an average southern Nigerian greedy, even if God has settled him with all the goodies of life, it's still not enough, eventually some loses their life earnings because of this when they do not appreciate what God has done for them.

Sir abeg, if I can find favor with you sir, I really need your connection to those jobs which people do not appreciate o. I will appreciate your link sir.

Me too sir. I am a serving Corper from the south east.

PEACE2023:
Where was this money's stashed mumu

Ode! Have they not given back the money to your leaders? What did your leaders do with the money? Zombie!

What do they even need your money for? Ozuor

Amayabor1:
Ode! Have they not given back the money to your leaders? What did your leaders do with the money? Zombie!

What do they even need your money for? Ozuor

You are a big full oh. Did your useless slave masters return the interest it generated for them during the many years they did business with the money. Ozuo.
Transparency international is headquartered there, why didn't They stop America and their likes from keeping the loot?
Are we sure that they have released all the loot?
By the way what did the law say about a "thief and the person who purchased or keep a stolen item knowing that it was stolen?"

PEACE2023:
You are a big full oh. Did your useless slave masters return the interest it generated for them during the many years they did business with the money. Ozuo.
Transparency international is headquartered there, why didn't They stop America and their likes from keeping the loot?
Are we sure that they have released all the loot?
By the way what did the law say about a "thief and the person who purchased or keep a stolen item knowing that it was stolen?"

See this slowpoke. Developed interest where? Accounts that were frozen? Ode!

Your politicians till this day still steal money from Nigeria via proxies to hide in foreign banks. Why not just beg your politicians to stop stealing? if they stop stealing the country's money, you wouldn't have to bother whether Nigeria stolen funds are developing interests in America banks or not.

Banks in Western countries and governments of Western countries shouldn't even be bothering themselves if the funds deposited in their banks are stolen from Nigeria or not. Afterall, banks are set up to make profit. I don't know why they are bothering themselves when they discover stolen money from Africa (especially Nigeria). Let the stolen money remain in Western banks. Let your politicians continue to steal the country's money and save them in Western banks so people like you can suffer and die in poverty. Na wetin fit useless idiots like you.

Please, Nigeria politicians, continue the stealing. Continue to deposit the stolen funds in western banks. And govts of the US, UK, Australia, Canada, etc, please leave stolen Nigerian funds in your banks. Use the funds to develop your economies so fools like this one will continue to suffer in Nigeria. 😁😁

PEACE2023:
You are a big full oh. Did your useless slave masters return the interest it generated for them during the many years they did business with the money. Ozuo.
Transparency international is headquartered there, why didn't They stop America and their likes from keeping the loot?
Are we sure that they have released all the loot?
By the way what did the law say about a "thief and the person who purchased or keep a stolen item knowing that it was stolen?"

Part of the corruption I was talking about.
Ode

Amayabor1:
Part of the corruption I was talking about.
Ode

You are just brainless. Do does this answer my question?

Amayabor1:
See this slowpoke. Developed interest where? Accounts that were frozen? Ode!

Your politicians till this day still steal money from Nigeria via proxies to hide in foreign banks. Why not just beg your politicians to stop stealing? if they stop stealing the country's money, you wouldn't have to bother whether Nigeria stolen funds are developing interests in America banks or not.

Banks in Western countries and governments of Western countries shouldn't even be bothering themselves if the funds deposited in their banks are stolen from Nigeria or not. Afterall, banks are set up to make profit. I don't know why they are bothering themselves when they discover stolen money from Africa (especially Nigeria). Let the stolen money remain in Western banks. Let your politicians continue to steal the country's money and save them in Western banks so people like you can suffer and die in poverty. Na wetin fit useless idiots like you.

Please, Nigeria politicians, continue the stealing. Continue to deposit the stolen funds in western banks. And govts of the US, UK, Australia, Canada, etc, please leave stolen Nigerian funds in your banks. Use the funds to develop your economies so fools like this one will continue to suffer in Nigeria. 😁😁

Can money be hidden in Americans bank?
This your reply is the most dumbest.
Can huge amount of money be hidden in American bank without your slaves master's knowing?
All those money Abacha looted is it in any way close to the money that they are dragging Onyema with?
Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
Your brain has been replaced making you think that America and Europeans are saint fool.
Answer me, why has no black man become Pope in the history of Catholic Church?
Father Tansi died before Pope John Paul the 2 but why did Pope John Paul de 2 become a saint before Tansi?
You American slaves are all stewpid and senseless.

PEACE2023:
Can money be hidden in Americans bank?
This your reply is the most dumbest.
Can huge amount of money be hidden in American bank without your slaves master's knowing?
All those money Abacha looted is it in any way close to the money that they are dragging Onyema with?
Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
Your brain has been replaced making you think that America and Europeans are saint fool.
Answer me, why has no black man become Pope in the history of Catholic Church?
Father Tansi died before Pope John Paul the 2 but why did Pope John Paul de 2 become a saint before Tansi?
You American slaves are all stewpid and senseless.

You that is not an American slave, how is your life? 😁😂. How are your family members? Are you feeding properly? How much are you earning per month? What's the quality of your life? Foolish he-goat. 😂🤣. Someone that will run to the same America if given an opportunity. 😂.

Now, let me answer your dumb questions. Yes, it is possible for America or any western country not to know that a certain amount deposited in their banks was stolen. Your politicians are very smart when it comes to stealing the country's monies. They use Mr A, who uses Mr B, who uses Mr C, who uses Mr D and usually, Mr D is a legit business man. So, you wouldn't even know that the money he is depositing into an American account is stolen money because he has businesses he uses to cover up. That's how most of your politicians steal money. Those kind of funds are difficult to trace, even by America.

Let your politicians continue to steal your Commonwealth and bring them to us here make we dey enjoy am why people like you suffer in penury. 😂.

Why don't America politicians steal their country's money and bring it to Njgeria? You left the people that are stealing your money to other countries. Your issue is with the countries where those monies are taken to, even though these countries have returned billions of dollars of stolen funds back to Nigeria but your leaders can't account for how they used the money. Don't you see that you will die inside suffer? 😂

The idiot is talking about the Catholic Church. I am not a Catholic. Why not go to the Vatican and ask them these questions? But why has an igbo man not been president of Nigeria. You haven't removed the log in your eyes, you want to remove the speck in another person's eyes. Ode! 😂🤣

PEACE2023:
You are just brainless. Do does this answer my question?

Yes, it answers your questions. It shows how corrupt Nigeria is. Is that not the point of our argument? Imagine a national security adviser saying policemen and army personnel sell their weapons to bandits and Terrorists. How do you want to define a corrupt society again? Ozour wey nor know him left from his right. 😂

PEACE2023:
You are just brainless. Do does this answer my question?

Look at the salary of only one senator in Nigeria. Only salary o. Other allowances are not included yet. How much is minimum wage again? 70k.😂🤣.

Continue to hate on America while your politicians continue to f*uck your life up. Useless fool 😂

Amayabor1:
You that is not an American slave, how is your life? 😁😂. How are your family members? Are you feeding properly? How much are you earning per month? What's the quality of your life? Foolish he-goat. 😂🤣. Someone that will run to the same America if given an opportunity. 😂.

Now, let me answer your dumb questions. Yes, it is possible for America or any western country not to know that a certain amount deposited in their banks was stolen. Your politicians are very smart when it comes to stealing the country's monies. They use Mr A, who uses Mr B, who uses Mr C, who uses Mr D and usually, Mr D is a legit business man. So, you wouldn't even know that the money he is depositing into an American account is stolen money because he has businesses he uses to cover up. That's how most of your politicians steal money. Those kind of funds are difficult to trace, even by America.

Let your politicians continue to steal your Commonwealth and bring them to us here make we dey enjoy am why people like you suffer in penury. 😂.

Why don't America politicians steal their country's money and bring it to Njgeria? You left the people that are stealing your money to other countries. Your issue is with the countries where those monies are taken to, even though these countries have returned billions of dollars of stolen funds back to Nigeria but your leaders can't account for how they used the money. Don't you see that you will die inside suffer? 😂

The idiot is talking about the Catholic Church. I am not a Catholic. Why not go to the Vatican and ask them these questions? But why has an igbo man not been president of Nigeria. You haven't removed the log in your eyes, you want to remove the speck in another person's eyes. Ode! 😂🤣

Slave

eaglebeliever:
This is one very illogical argument I hear all the time and I have to comment because I live in America and have seen people fall into this trap for lack of knowledge. If your salary in N1,000,000, you can afford to conveniently live in a N500,000 rented apartment annually and pay from 1 months salary.

The factory worker you referred to cannot get a 1 bedroom apartment to rent for less than $800 monthly and so there is virtually nothing left after working for an entire month. There is no factory worker or (even any average worker) that can pay his annual rent from 1 month salary. So as far as living conditions is concerned, the FG worker with N1,000,000 is living in the dreams of the factory worker earning <$1000, who will most likely need to share an apartment with a friend.

I am not saying migrating is a bad idea, however stop cherry-picking where to convert from $ to N. I see people migrate with their family because they were told you can conveniently make $2000 (3 million) monthly through Uber but no one told them they will also pay over N2,000,000 for rent monthly 😀

If you are going to respond, please stay within the nexus of my argument and don’t extrapolate to anything I did not say. Thanks

Thanks. You made sense.

PEACE2023:
Slave

He, abi na she can't counter my points. 😂.

You go die for suffer nor worry. Your politicians will continue to steal the money meant for your well-being and development. 😂. Hope you don eat today? 😁

PEACE2023:
Thank you brother. Tomorrow when the News paper will announce top positions in your company and they are northerners, the south will start making noise.

My southern brothers are not even happy that I’m still in the country .. thou most of them got job with Amazon , Cisco and google . They are doing pretty well

OP, while I get what you are saying about Southerners losing important positions in the civil service due to the JAPA Syndrome, you have to bear in mind that Southerners are ultra-competitive while most Northerners are content with what they have. As one commentator rightly said, Southerners think globally while Northerners think locally. Southerners want to compete with their contemporaries across the globe while Northerners are contented with thriving in a society that runs on quota system and corruption.

PEACE2023:
It seems you don't understand the implications as I highlighted above. Meanwhile must of them don't have good jobs abroad.
Can you please tell me what a man is looking for if not shelter, mobility, raise a family and live in good health.
Outside this what are you looking for please?
Don't mention security because USA is not save, Canada and UK are not save.
Meanwhile none of this develop countries can guarantee you long life and prosperity none.

You are right, Am a federal civil servant and also a southerner, most of my southern brethren that we were employed together, have relocated. Religion is a major factor. Most of my friends that resigned and relocated belonged to a particular Religion (I believe you can guess the Religion). Religion should promote contentment and uprightness.