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helinues:
Both NFF and Libya FA are not different

Libya that's not a football country yet you relied all the logistics to them without having plan B

Your statement here doesn't make any sense. Can you rewrite it to make sense

Temptation147:
How did your country treat them first?

how did Nigeria treat them ? You're obviously among those who lack simple comprehension abilities

Nigeria should opt out of CAF if the football governing body fails to punish the Libyans heavily for this very shameful incident.

All Arabs are animals including Mohammed.

Sleekfingers:
I believe the match will be played at a neutral venue.
CAF is a useless organization.

Those north African countries don't see themselves as Africans . Especially Morocco and Tunisia

Bit unfortunately for them they are geographically located in the continent of Africa and thus classified.

helinues:
Both NFF and Libya FA are not different

Libya that's not a football country yet you relied all the logistics to them without having plan B

U must have been very silly and lack a very simple skill like comprehension.

kheny12:
The match should be play at a neutral venue. All those north African countries are same. They always think they are better than other African. CAF too is unserious organization.

To be honest somehow I never like any of those North Africa countries I don't even know why they are in Africa soil in the first place I'm not comfortable with them at all.

On this issue on ground Libya must be sanction seriously.

naptu2:
The NFF 🇳🇬 @thenff






https://thenff.com/20-points-of-a-20-hour-ordeal-on-libyan-soil/

Honestly, countries like Libya shouldn't have been granted international sports competition in the first place because it's a polarised country with two governments having different political, economic, social and sporting ideologies. The two governments obviously colluded to make sure Super Eagles of Nigeria land in the territory where our embassy could not reach easily to give them deserving hospitality for their shameless shenanigans.
I'm of the opinion that Libya should be scrapped from the comity of international sports for these high degree of untold hardships meted out on Super Eagles of Nigeria.

Normally, your brain 🧠 has been used by APC for campaign rituals, so when you spill rubbish from your gutter mouth no one is surprised. Ode, like this now, you don comment abi?

helinues:
Both NFF and Libya FA are not different

Libya that's not a football country yet you relied all the logistics to them without having plan B

naptu2:
The NFF 🇳🇬 @thenff






https://thenff.com/20-points-of-a-20-hour-ordeal-on-libyan-soil/

No.10 says there was no network and internet connection.... So how were they able to make all these calls they are saying in No. 11 down? Nigeria can lie for Africa. As citizens they are treating us like shit while lying to us that they have taken good care of us. How are we sure of the information they are giving us about the treatment of lybians here? And how are we sure of the information they give us about the treatment in lybia? We can no longer believe the government because we have seen how they have been treating us here

saintnegroid:
No.10 says there was no network and internet connection.... So how were they able to make all these calls they are saying in No. 11 down? Nigeria can lie for Africa. As citizens they are treating us like shit while lying to us that they have taken good care of us. How are we sure of the information they are giving us about the treatment of lybians here? And how are we sure of the information they give us about the treatment in lybia? We can no longer believe the government because we have seen how they have been treating us here

The NFF is not the government and comprehension should not be difficult.

Everybody complained that there was no WiFi at the airport. They were able to make calls, but had no internet access. It was the head of the Nigerian community in Labraq, Mr Eromosele, that came with internet access and food for them.

The NFF is not the Nigerian Government. The players are not the Nigerian Government. Journalists that were with the team are not the Nigerian Government. All of these people detailed what happened.

You can allow politics to becloud your judgement, but there are enough people that were there and they detailed exactly what happened.

helinues:
Both NFF and Libya FA are not different

Libya that's not a football country yet you relied all the logistics to them without having plan B

Read through the post and thread and stop displaying outright ignorance.

NFF was not relying on them for logistics... that was not the issue. NFF had already made provision for their logistics ahead for Benghazzi but their plane was diverted to a different city by the instruction of Lybian authorities.

Even at that, NFF was ready to make other plans from the City they were diverted to but the Securties at the diverted Airport, locked the exit gates and refused to let them leave that Airport, the security said they were acting on the instructions from above

helinues:
Both NFF and Libya FA are not different

Libya that's not a football country yet you relied all the logistics to them without having plan B

Did you read where the Nigeria embassy in Libya wrote to get a permission to welcome the players.Read well please....have a nice day

westlius:
Didn't you read where NFF got another vehicle but they didn't not allow them out of the airport.
Or you didn't read when the Nigerian Embassy in Libya wanted to host them but Libya govt didn't not approve.

As in...I tire oo...We don't read anymore and we are very quick to pass judgements for likes

The delegation, which included 22 players and team officials; NFF President Alh. Ibrahim Musa Gusau; Deputy Governor of Edo State, Comrade Philip Shaibu; a couple of NFF Board members; NFF General Secretary, Dr Mohammed Sanusi; a couple of parliamentarians; a couple of NFF Management; a couple of media representatives and; a couple of stakeholders, was shown scant respect by the airport authorities who applied curt manners and stern tones.

What did Edo State deputy governor went to do in Libya? And who are the parliamentarians that followed the team, are they footballers??

CAF is the cause of all this. They pamper those north Africans too much by setting the first legs away from there regions, which gives them the much audacity to plan and carry out there dark football acts. All north Africans teams both national and clubs do this and CAF has never sanctioned them.

ARABS ARE A HEARTLESS SPIECE OF HUMANS.

NEXT TIME THE NFF SHOULD TRAVEL WITH PACKS OF BOTTLE WATER AND BEVERAGES.
ALL THE OFFICIALS AND PLAYERS CANT BE UP TO 100. AND THAT IS JUST FOR PACKS OF WATER AND FOUR OF BEVERAGES. TWO PACKS OF GALA
THE JET IS BIG ENOUGH TO CARRY SUCH.
JUST IN CASE THE HOST TURNS OUT TO BE DEMONIC LIKE THE LIBYANS.

THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING TO FILL THEIR STOMACHS AND KEEP THEM HYDRATED.

CAF is such an incompetent organization while allow countries with political instabilities to compete in its competition. The whites are not superior to blacks but they do apply common sense in their doings and this is why they appear superior to Africans.
And the incompetent CAF president is yet to make a verdict, if the reverse is the case Nigeria would have been banned.
If CAF makes any biased decisions the NFF should drag CAF president to FIFA and sport arbitration court. Then the FG should drag the Libyan government to ICC for attempted murder bcs if not for God an air crash would have happened.
Countries like Libya should be withdrawn from any form of CAF competitions, and CAF should set a standard any hosting team

helinues:
Both NFF and Libya FA are not different

Libya that's not a football country yet you relied all the logistics to them without having plan B

what nonsense are u saying? ..read the report all over , slowly and more attentively this time.

Total madness by the Libyan foolish authority.,,?

I don't understand why CAF will approve for countries to go play football in a country like Libya. A country controlled by 2 different government.


lesson learn

1. The NFF should have never flown directly to Libya at night
2.The team should have gone through Egypt or Tunisia
3. fueling of our aircraft in Libya should be rule out in future
4. the team should go along with their food
5. Get a CAF official to go alone with the team

this people are barbaric and have war carry over in them and every thing about them should be avoided in future

MadPolitician:
NFF needs to be investigated too. A lot of blunders from their side too. They have been spared by Nigerians in all these, but thevfact is that they're not totally innocent.
I think we have roasted the poor Libyans thoroughly enough. It is time to look inwards.

Someone is not doing his job very well at the NFF. And this started since the coming of this ineffective NFF chairman. The South Africans complained of this. Now the Libyans. I read that another country that played us at hone recently, complained of similar treatment too.

While the Libyans might have overreacted in their typical primitive North African ways, heads need to roll at that NFF. Period. Someone who doesn't know how to coordinate stuffs like this, is in charge there. I don't know whether its the NFF chairman himself, or a head of an agency there. But someone out of sort withbhis administrative responsibilities is cauing the country all sorts of embarrassments.

What are you talking about

If Libyans are truly treated badly, why are they talking about it after the match have been played and they have given their satisfactory reports to CAF match commissioner as satisfactory...why crying after they have admitted to have a good outing in Nigeria Don't ask me if I have seen the match report....I know the match reports would have been satisfactory, that's why there was no noise about it till Super Eagles landed in Libya and they are trying to justify why they held them hostage.

My point is, you can't claim what was not officially reported, especially , when there is avenue to do so.


...and for the South Africa issue you pointed at....South Africa was the architect of their own problem...their flight was delayed in South Africa...so, by the time it got to Nigeria, Uyo airport has closed...they have to land in Portharcourt ...We can't pin that on the NFF...No


https://www.nairaland.com/8116243/controversy-bafana-bafana-arrive-port-harcourt

helinues:
Both NFF and Libya FA are not different

Libya that's not a football country yet you relied all the logistics to them without having plan B

Plan B like sending the Nigerian police force to go and forcefully escort them out of yhr airport when they were locked in? Or they should have sent the airforce to ensure that the plane was allowed to land in benghazi as planned??

But some people on these same platform were so quick to condemn the Nigeria government

adioolayi:
What are you talking about

If Libyans are truly treated badly, why are they talking about it after the match have been played and they have given their satisfactory reports to CAF match commissioner as satisfactory...why crying after they have admitted to have a good outing in Nigeria Don't ask me if I have seen the match report....I know the match reports would have been satisfactory, that's why there was no noise about it till Super Eagles landed in Libya and they are trying to justify why they held them hostage.

My point is, you can't claim what was not officially reported, especially , when there is avenue to do so.


...and for the South Africa issue you pointed at....South Africa was the architect of their own problem...their flight was delayed in South Africa...so, by the time it got to Nigeria, Uyo airport has closed...they have to land in Portharcourt ...We can't pin that on the NFF...No


https://www.nairaland.com/8116243/controversy-bafana-bafana-arrive-port-harcourt

Super eagles playing in uyo may be the issue here.
Direct flight to uyo from abroad could be challenging logistics wise. It's a new airport, not international and the aviation logistics for foreign airline to land at the airport could be daunting.
This may explain the difficulties both Libya and south Africa had landing in Uyo.
If NFF insists our home matches must continue in Uyo, then extra effort and concrete aviation arrangements must be made with Uyo airport and aviation authorities to ensure foreign airlines have enough information and equipped with necessary logistics to land in Uyo airport.

This can't continue to happen all the time teams play super eagles in Uyo, otherwise there will always be issue of retribution in return legs.

SIRTee15:
Super eagles playing in uyo may be the issue here.
Direct flight to uyo from abroad could be challenging logistics wise. It's a new airport, not international and the aviation logistics for foreign airline to land at the airport could be daunting.
This may explain the difficulties both Libya and south Africa had landing in Uyo.
If NFF insists our home matches must continue in Uyo, then extra effort and concrete aviation arrangements must be made with Uyo airport and aviation authorities to ensure foreign airlines have enough information and equipped with necessary logistics to land in Uyo airport.

This can't continue to happen all the time teams play super eagles in Uyo, otherwise there will always be issue of retribution in return legs.

The issue isn't about Super Eagles playing in Uyo, rather it is about gamesmanship. The airport in Uyo is designated as an international airport, the Victor Attah International Airport .

naptu2:
REVERSE GAMESMANSHIP 1

Reverse gamesmanship occurs when you believe that your hosts are planning to do something bad, so you make your own arrangements to counter them. The elements of reverse gamesmanship are:

A) You book your own hotel accommodation. Your hosts would have booked a hotel for you, but you ignore that hotel and book another hotel.

B) Your hire a team bus. Your hosts would have provided a team bus, but you ignore it and hire another bus

C) You don't inform your hosts about your travel arrangements, so that you can get them by surprise and they won't be able to prepare anything bad for you.

You must have a good point man in the host country in order to achieve this

Problems arise when you don't have a good point man, yet you want to play games.

Kenya

There was a match between Nigeria and Kenya in Calabar in 2013. The Kenyans did not inform the NFF of their travel plans. They suddenly arrived in Lagos.

Arik Air was the NFF's sponsor back then and it only flew to Calabar once a week. The Arik Air flight had already left Lagos for Calabar earlier that day, before the Kenyans arrived. The NFF had to arrange for Arik Air to provide another plane the next day.

The Kenyans complained that there was no NFF official to receive them, but how could there be when the NFF was not informed on time? NFF officials were in Calabar and Abuja, not in Lagos. The Kenyans found a football pitch at a secondary school and that's where they trained. They took pictures of the pitch and it went viral on social media. That was not the NFF's fault, it was entirely the fault of the Kenyans.

South Africa

The Super Eagles were to play Bafana Bafana in Uyo. Everybody thought that they would fly straight to Uyo or they would come through Lagos. Their flight was delayed in South Africa. The Bafana Bafana handle tweeted that their flight was delayed in South Africa (I posted a screenshot on my thread), yet they did not inform the NFF.

Their plane arrived Port-Harcourt Airport late at night. Uyo Airport had closed for the day by the time that they arrived Port-Harcourt and they could not get permission to fly to Uyo because the airport was closed. What do you want the NFF to do about that? NFF officials were waiting for them in Uyo, but they were in Port-Harcourt.

Libya

NFF's head of protocol spoke to the secretary-general of the Libyan FA on Monday and the Libyan did not tell him that the Libyan team would arrive on Tuesday. Late Monday night he got a call from someone that described himself as the Libyan advance party and the person told him that the Libyan team would arrive on Tuesday. The NFF made arrangements to receive them in Uyo on Tuesday afternoon. However, on Tuesday they got a call that the Libyan team was in Port-Harcourt. How was the NFF to know that they would be in Port-Harcourt?

Now take a look at the explanation by the Mamelodi Sundowns official in the last post above.

REVERSE GAMESMANSHIP 2

There is another trick that some teams play.

Enyimba played Raja Casablanca in Nigeria in 2018. Enyimba received them very well. I saw the videos and pictures. However, Raja players and officials made statements to travelling Moroccan journalists that they were mistreated, etc. Enyimba immediately filed a complaint to CAF. It was obvious that Raja were planning to maltreat Enyimba in Morocco and that they made those statements to rile their fans up.

People engage in reverse gamesmanship when they think that their hosts are going to do one of these things to them.

naptu2:
There's a reason that Enyimba have reported Raja to CAF.

My dad led many Nigerian teams to North Africa in the 1970s and '80s and he told me about the antics of the north Africans.


He said that he usually called the Nigerian ambassador in the host country days before any match. He would tell the ambassador to book a hotel and hire a bus for the team.


This is because (1) fans of the north African team would usually camp outside the visiting teams hotel and they would make a lot of noise with loud speakers and drums, to ensure that players of the visiting team do not sleep at night.

2) They would usually book hotels in the red light district for the visiting team so that their players would be distracted by prostitutes.


3) Matches are usually held at night and in towns that are close to the Mediterranean, rather than their home town, so that the visiting players would be bothered by the cold.

4) Bags of urine are sometimes thrown at the reserve bench


I guess that Enyimba believe that Raja is trying to create animosity in the minds of its supporters so that they will give Enyimba a terrible time when Enyimba goes to Casablanca.

naptu2:
Chief Abiola’s story included some underhand practices by host teams against visiting teams (changing the venue or kick-off times, etc.) This unfortunately was a regular occurrence in African football, as you can see from the post below.

naptu2:
The NFF is not the government and comprehension should not be difficult.

Everybody complained that there was no WiFi at the airport. They were able to make calls, but had no internet access. It was the head of the Nigerian community in Labraq, Mr Eromosele, that came with internet access and food for them.

The NFF is not the Nigerian Government. The players are not the Nigerian Government. Journalists that were with the team are not the Nigerian Government. All of these people detailed what happened.

You can allow politics to becloud your judgement, but there are enough people that were there and they detailed exactly what happened.

Comprehension is a problem for many people

toyosiolamide:
As in...I tire oo...We don't read anymore and we are very quick to pass judgements for likes

It is quite shameful to say the least.

The match will be played in Angola on March 25 2025

naptu2:
There is a war in Sudan, so they can't play their matches at home, they play in Libya. Sudan and Ghana were given permission to land in Benghazi on the same day that the Libyans refused to give permission to the Super Eagles to land in Benghazi. They played their match in Benghazi without any problems, while the Super Eagles were being detained at an airport in Abraq.


nwachinemerem Ka mbu ✪ @donemy2000

This evidence will definitely implicate the libyians hope caf will be bold enough to take the rightful decision

Dem for just play d match for our very own SAMBISA stadium, heard it's safer there...
🚶🏿‍♂️

MadPolitician:
NFF needs to be investigated too. A lot of blunders from their side too. They have been spared by Nigerians in all these, but thevfact is that they're not totally innocent.
I think we have roasted the poor Libyans thoroughly enough. It is time to look inwards.

Someone is not doing his job very well at the NFF. And this started since the coming of this ineffective NFF chairman. The South Africans complained of this. Now the Libyans. I read that another country that played us at hone recently, complained of similar treatment too.

While the Libyans might have overreacted in their typical primitive North African ways, heads need to roll at that NFF. Period. Someone who doesn't know how to coordinate stuffs like this, is in charge there. I don't know whether its the NFF chairman himself, or a head of an agency there. But someone out of sort withbhis administrative responsibilities is cauing the country all sorts of embarrassments.

If you think SA really had an issue with us then Goodluck to you...
Those people hate anything nigerian