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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by NothingDoMe: 8:18am On Oct 19, 2024
IMEI:
The guy is a jew
And he's cashing out on the Terrorists while using the money to fund his country. 🤷.

Terrorists are not very smart it appears.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by NothingDoMe: 8:20am On Oct 19, 2024
DystopianMuse:
NA HIM OWN NOCHE BE THAT. SMART MOVES. BUT DOES IT WORTH IT??
Man must wack? 🤷‍♂️
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:20am On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
I don't want to call you a liar maybe you are or maybe you're just ignorant. Let me help you.


The Hamas Covenant

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:​​​​​​​​​​​​​

​Goals of the HAMAS:
​"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6)



On the destruction of Israel:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)
( yeah the destruction of Israel by ISLAM)
Note: this is not a religious war.


The exclusive Moslem nature of the area:

"The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it." (Article 11)

"Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be." (Article 13)



The call to jihad:

"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised." (Article 15)

"Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about." (Article 33)



Rejection of a negotiated peace settlement: Like they have always done. But it's Israel that doesn't want the two state solution.

"[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility." (Article 13)



Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:

"Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act." (Article 32)



Anti-Semitic incitement:

The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7)


You said Hamas' founding charter doesn't state all Jews should be killed, please explain the above.

"The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it." (Article 22)

"Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'." (Article 32)

"The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews." (Article 32)
Now from the revised charter

. There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity. Whatever has befallen the land of Palestine in terms of occupation, settlement building, judaisation or changes to its features or falsification of facts is illegitimate. Rights never lapse.

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.


Now the bolded is what spoilt previous negotiations because then Palestinians can live within Israel . You get.


On your last bit this is a political not a religious thread.

Use the quranic references in my post.
Stop wasting your time,
A simple glance at the dictum and manifestos of these terror groups in the Middle East you will find one thing is similar about them. And that is the total annihilation of the Jewish state.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 8:25am On Oct 19, 2024
Alamkir:
I heard yahaya Sinwar was in isreali prison for more than 20 years, 23 years precisely, he came out 13 years ago and take up arms against Israel immediately. Hero
I heard while he was in the Jewish prison he had a terminal illness and was treated at a Jewish hospital by Jewish doctor


When Israel saved Yahya Sinwar's life
Ironically, Israel had put a target on a man whom it had once saved from certain death. In the early 2000s, while in prison, Sinwar began experiencing headaches and blurred vision, as per a Bloomberg report that narrates the interesting episode in his life. He was taken to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba where a surgeon removed a brain tumor, saving his life.


There's a whole documentary on this Sinwars word to the doctor is I own you my life.

The doctor's son was killed on Oct 7th
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 8:31am On Oct 19, 2024
obedience4:
Stop wasting your time,
A simple glance at the dictum and manifestos of these terror groups in the Middle East you will find one thing is similar about them. And that is the total annihilation of the Jewish state.
Some people here either truly don't know or pretend not to know or worst still know but don't care.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 8:34am On Oct 19, 2024
0neal:
When the basal instinct for survival kicks in, rules of engagement flies away...especially when the enemy (Iran) has sworn to no rest until Isreal is wiped off the map or erased from the pages of time.

It is called WAR

Do you think some of the soldier either knowingly or mistakenly shooting those unharmed civilians were given orders from their superiors?
and do you think all the soldiers will carryout the orders to the latter without some having a moral issue with the order?

You proved my point fighting an unconventional army with no standard uniform is messy, even the IDF killed their own people.
Regardless of the orders giving to them it's left to you as a human being to use your moral compass to justify the situation. In your case your are ok with Israel killing civilians anyhow, you have looked for every means to justify it. I'm not like you my humanity won't ever let me condone such. France and other NATO members have called out Israel on this and have started to stop sending weapons to Israel if they don't stop attacking civilians. If NATO members have openly admitted that Israel is killing civilians unnecessarily despite the fact that they have tried to deny it for long but it's not too glaring, so who are you and your western ass lickers to deny it and lie that Israel is not doing it?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 8:39am On Oct 19, 2024
DystopianMuse:
Did not fear death but was hiding in tunnels all his life. Tell me another joke please
That lie has been debunked already.. he was fighting alongside his men . Despite all the lies that he was in a tunnel hiding, handcuffed to civilians or that he was booby trapped and staying with the hostages. All na lie.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:49am On Oct 19, 2024
23jerryking:
watch how they'll avoid this question as though they didn't see it.
Same as asking why were the crusaders named crusaders even though there were other non-christian people within that country.

Same as Lord's resistance force/army/movement in Rwanda or is it in Congo?

The name should not matter, the intent/intention should.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:51am On Oct 19, 2024
IMEI:
They follow the principles of Islam
Just like other resistance fighters follow a religion majority of those within it practice.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:51am On Oct 19, 2024
Vic2023:
❗️And as expected, the Lebanese inhabitants of Rmeich village allowed the IDF to enter their village and safely operate there to create a new axis to surround Aita al-Shaab.

Israeli vehicles are moving safely in Rmeich and have closed the main road with two M113 vehicles
I think it's xtian village
And when it's time for them to bomb them to ashes, they do it without flinching. They did one few days ago.

Christians (majority) in the middle east and other parts of the world act like slaves to the fake jews (Zionist cult).

The power of Religious brainwashing can never be overemphasized.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:54am On Oct 19, 2024
Vic2023:
🇱🇧🇮🇱⚡- Inhabitants of the Christian-majority village, Rmeich, have surrendered and allowed IDF soldiers into the town. The residents have been assisting the Israeli forces since the beginning of Israel's invasion, providing intel.
Willing slaves.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:56am On Oct 19, 2024
Vic2023:
🇮🇷❌🇱🇧🇬🇷 — Lebanese netizens report sectarian clashes are taking place in Zahleh, after a Melkite (Greek Orthodox) Priest was kidnapped by local shia civilians

➡️ It happened because the Priest was supposedly taking pictures of the moon (It's currently a Hunter's Supermoon), and the local Shias thought he was a "Mossad agent taking photos of sensitive sites"

➡️ According to reports, the Priest was dragged to their Husseiniya.

➡️ Church bells are ringing all over Zahleh, as local christian parties call for mobilization

➡️ The Lebanese Army is now being deployed on the scene to prevent further escalation.

✍️✍️✍️✍️Picture of moon? For what? He's a spy joor arrest him!
Taking pictures of the moon in a country under military conflict?

I wasn't born last night. grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:59am On Oct 19, 2024
Ska333ko:
Russia will give everyone who holds an Israeli passport of Russian origin a grace period to “return to the country and renounce Israeli citizenship,” and will set a period during which anyone who does not respond to the Russian government’s request will lose Russian citizenship.
Perfect!

You can't be an European, then go to another region of the world to be claiming heritage/land.

I just love Russsians, they truly distaste hypocrisy.

If you want to claim Jew, go ahead and do that but you can't claim Russian too!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mille: 9:09am On Oct 19, 2024
Cancri:
why would IDF kill unarmed people?
You guys just assume that the IDF are moving around kill unarmed people, you asking the IDF not to fight Hezbollah and hamas is like you asking the Nigerian army not to fight boko Haram
I actually consider it a waste of time to go back and forth with people like you. I no get the time and energy, especially for you. We know where you stand with genocide, whether real or imagined.


But for others, here is a crime of baiting that happened yesterday. Israeli sniper shot and injured a small boy. When people gathered to try and help him, there was a drone strike on everyone else.
https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1847399154185883693?t=OqPFa4kDWoAK_24At6Z5tQ&s=19

Now Just imagine another country doing something like that, and also imagine the international response.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 9:17am On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
I heard while he was in the Jewish prison he had a terminal illness and was treated at a Jewish hospital by Jewish doctor


When Israel saved Yahya Sinwar's life
Ironically, Israel had put a target on a man whom it had once saved from certain death. In the early 2000s, while in prison, Sinwar began experiencing headaches and blurred vision, as per a Bloomberg report that narrates the interesting episode in his life. He was taken to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba where a surgeon removed a brain tumor, saving his life.


There's a whole documentary on this Sinwars word to the doctor is I own you my life.

The doctor's son was killed on Oct 7th
...........hmmmm
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 9:25am On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
Some people here either truly don't know or pretend not to know or worst still know but don't care.
I think everyone here know what is going on but very few are doing it for argument seek and majority are doing it because of their religion affiliation, it is a form of jih.....

You better don't waste your time......they will still ask you to bring proof
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 9:28am On Oct 19, 2024
Procashtips:
Taking pictures of the moon in a country under military conflict?

I wasn't born last night. grin
.....and you did not see anything bad in what they are doing......... continue sir
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by timesupnababa: 9:32am On Oct 19, 2024
obedience4:
Dude you attended uniben, grin ?? All this small small ekosode boys, I attended Auchi poly and AAU when it was hell back then, You know BABA K?? All this small small uniben aye boys with their running mouth.
see people u dey call. Smallies them. Be like u want men enter AAU tie u join motor drag u for ground pass everywhere. No put body. Separate yourself from imperialists or face the wrath of resistance madness
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 9:42am On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
I heard while he was in the Jewish prison he had a terminal illness and was treated at a Jewish hospital by Jewish doctor


When Israel saved Yahya Sinwar's life
Ironically, Israel had put a target on a man whom it had once saved from certain death. In the early 2000s, while in prison, Sinwar began experiencing headaches and blurred vision, as per a Bloomberg report that narrates the interesting episode in his life. He was taken to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba where a surgeon removed a brain tumor, saving his life.


There's a whole documentary on this Sinwars word to the doctor is I own you my life.

The doctor's son was killed on Oct 7th
Here you go.....

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by motayoayinde: 9:45am On Oct 19, 2024
Ska333ko:
Russia will give everyone who holds an Israeli passport of Russian origin a grace period to “return to the country and renounce Israeli citizenship,” and will set a period during which anyone who does not respond to the Russian government’s request will lose Russian citizenship.
This is quite significant.

Israelis of Russian origin are the reason Russia has sort of had its hands tied on this matter.

Now, Putin is clearly taking sides with the axis of Resistance.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by motayoayinde: 9:57am On Oct 19, 2024
Hoping Netanyahu was in that building.

There are rumours he was.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:59am On Oct 19, 2024
WrriterNg:
Perfect excuse for Russia to Nuke Ukraine to thy kingdom come.


Make Zelensky just make that mistake. Before he say Jack na bright yellow flash followed by mushroom cloud he go see from heaven.
Something tells me that Russia will have to take this man out soon. He has outlived his relevance to the Russians.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 10:19am On Oct 19, 2024
motayoayinde:
Hoping Netanyahu was in that building.

There are rumours he was.
Terrorist supporter shut up, that's was how you people said bibi was hit in the airport now this
Keep wailing, your terrorist buddies in the middle-east will keep going to paradise to enjoy their virgins

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Saladdin: 10:21am On Oct 19, 2024
hamzeiy:
Are you senile....did you watch the drone footage released by IDF, the guy was right in front of them all along actively fighting at the front.....
Lol.
Truly it's the heart that's blind and not the eyes
Bro, kindly ignore that monicker like everyone else is doing.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 10:22am On Oct 19, 2024
Another bites the dust

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16:
motayoayinde:
Hoping Netanyahu was in that building.

There are rumours he was.
Netanyahu will always be in a bunker when he is not in transit.
There are only a few ways to get him. Through an assassin or when he is on the move.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ghostagain: 10:40am On Oct 19, 2024
Stop replying dystopianidiot, you're wasting your time and elevating a fool.

Ignore fools as early as possible, don't argue with them.
Jovi10:
That lie has been debunked already..
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by motayoayinde:
Obedience40:
Terrorist supporter shut up, that's was how you people said bibi was hit in the airport now this
Keep wailing, your terrorist buddies in the middle-east will keep going to paradise to enjoy their virgins
I hate it when dirty flies like you quote me.

Any time this happens, I either ignore or go back to my post to see if it has anything in it to attract poop flies like you.

In this case (as always), it doesn't.
An idiot just wants my attention.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:44am On Oct 19, 2024
WrriterNg:
⚡The Head of the State Duma defense committee commented on the possibility of Ukraine creating nuclear weapons.

It is absolutely impossible; they do not have the competences, materials and equipment. Statements that nuclear weapons can be made from waste for nuclear fuel are fairy tales for the poorly educated, said Andrey Kartapolov.

He added that Ukraine could make a "dirty bomb", but Russia is considering all possibilities.

If we assume that it can be given to them secretly, then this is also excluded, because there is a certain technique that allows you to immediately determine where the special ammunition was created. So goodbye America then, added Andrey Kartapolov.
It is only mad people that would wish Ukraine to have nukes right now.

Just the threat of Britain giving Ukraine permission to strike deep into Russia with waste uranium-tipped missiles instantly prompted Russian nuclear subs to take striking position close to UK waters. Imagine what would happen if a nuke was secretly delivered to the Ukros. The preemptive nuclear strikes on American and NATO military infrastructures would be unimaginable as such that even Satan would be thanking God he wasn't the target for the Russian Satan 2 and many other nuclear strikes platforms.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ghostagain: 10:46am On Oct 19, 2024
Your confusing of "Israeli" with "Jew" is actually a big help you are giving the Zionists who want everybody to identify Israel as synonymous with Judaism. You are also thrashing all the Jews whom are not Zionists and who stand against Israel.

Since you defended this position before, I thought you should know.
Procashtips:
Perfect!

You can't be an European, then go to another region of the world to be claiming heritage/land.

I just love Russsians, they truly distaste hypocrisy.

If you want to claim Jew, go ahead and do that but you can't claim Russian too!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 10:54am On Oct 19, 2024
Procashtips:
Just like other resistance fighters follow a religion majority of those within it practice.
Exactly
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:26am On Oct 19, 2024
Lawag3:
I don't want to call you a liar maybe you are or maybe you're just ignorant. Let me help you.


The Hamas Covenant

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:​​​​​​​​​​​​​

​Goals of the HAMAS:
​"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6)



On the destruction of Israel:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)
( yeah the destruction of Israel by ISLAM)
Note: this is not a religious war.


The exclusive Moslem nature of the area:

"The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it." (Article 11)

"Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be." (Article 13)



The call to jihad:

"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised." (Article 15)

"Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about." (Article 33)



Rejection of a negotiated peace settlement: Like they have always done. But it's Israel that doesn't want the two state solution.

"[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility." (Article 13)



Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:

"Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act." (Article 32)



Anti-Semitic incitement:

The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7)


You said Hamas' founding charter doesn't state all Jews should be killed, please explain the above.

"The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it." (Article 22)

"Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'." (Article 32)

"The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews." (Article 32)
Now from the revised charter

. There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity. Whatever has befallen the land of Palestine in terms of occupation, settlement building, judaisation or changes to its features or falsification of facts is illegitimate. Rights never lapse.

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.


Now the bolded is what spoilt previous negotiations because then Palestinians can live within Israel . You get.


On your last bit this is a political not a religious thread.

Use the quranic references in my post.
There are only two points that require my attention out of all these you've stated, because all the others all make clear that Hamas' fight is against the Zionist State of israel and Zionism

Secondly, I won't even bother to double check anything you've written there because nothing debunks my points

Now to my response:

1. The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7)


The above is a foretelling of Prophet Muhammad about the end times, when Jesus (Isa) will come back and will lead the Muslims to defeat the anti-Christ (Dajjal). The prophecy states that Jews are waiting for a Messiah and a lot of them will accept the Dajjal(anti-Christ) as such when he shows up, there'll be battles and eventually, Jesus (Isa) will come and lead the Muslims to victory against them, killing the anti-Christ. It's when that happens, that even rocks and trees will speak.

The Article you quoted is not a command to kill Jews, it's a prophecy of end time events, the actual text is very long and I'm certain Hamas put it there as motivation, seeing it as some sort of promised outcome

2. Claiming negotiations failed because of any provision of a Hamas Charter is false, there's never been negotiations between Hamas and Israel for a Two State Solution, it's always been between the PLO/PA and israel

3. Hamas' Charter is only a response to the Provisions of the Likud Party Charter( founded 1973) which contains thus:

The original 1977 party platform stated that "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."

The 1999 Likud Party platform emphasized the right of settlement:

The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting

The 'Peace & Security' chapter of the 1999 Likud Party platform rejects a Palestinian state:

The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs

This makes clear the rejection of any Palestinian State and even claims a right to Palestinian land and erasure of Palestinians

Note that Likud was formed in 1973 and Hamas in 1987. Today, Likud is in power and the knesset has passed a resolution rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian State

4. Like I stated, Hamas revised it's Charter in 2017 and even removed the 'controversial' Article 7 from it and several others

5. The claim Israel wants peace and Palestinians don't want it is bogus.

You can call me a liar, I don't care, I only speak on what I know
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