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| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:03pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:So let us keep borrowing to fund subsides And keep on doing what has been done for decades. Got you. Call me agbadorian, it does not change the facts on ground man. And yes, I know most of Nairalander disagrees with me. Better to be right than to be popular Enjoy your likes |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Treadway: 3:05pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:Tinubu supposedly removed subsidy and in one year has increased the domestic debt by over 45trillion naira and the foreign debt by around $20b.. my explanation for that is simple. CORRUPTION, but OP no feel say corruption na front burner issue, na only subsidy removal be the Koko... paragraphs upon paragraph on one message and that message only. Oya write paragraphs on the above. Shebi you like theories. Explain the above with one of your verbose theories |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:05pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Treadway:So let us keep borrowing to pay for subsides Got you. You can continue the abuse, but the facts is facts. I have been screaming about this for over ten years..and I have been called all sorts of names. Enjoy your subsides ![]() |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:05pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:Which subsidy is 40trillion alagbado? Dem take lie swear for you? Let's even assume it is 40trn, that's less than $30bn. Tell your looting Mastere who have pilfered $582bn to release just a quarter of their loot and we'll be fine don't you think? |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:07pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
So the conclusion of this thread is simple. Let us borrow 60 trillion naira every year and pay for subsides. And from the apc guys, let's continue with the corruption. Opposing both beliefs shows you are agbadorian. Thanks guys I have heard you. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:07pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Treadway:Leave am Na corn apologist He's high on fermented corn |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:08pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Am sorry , but the flowers won't grow without Macmillan's extra organic fertilizer. Not the rubbish Orphen brand you keep trying to push on me , milord |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by lamentor78(m): 3:10pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:You will never know the problem of Nigeria except you get to that seat. Most president thought they can solved it until they see that some evil forces are always in Aso villa |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:10pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:No We should recover our looted funds of $582bn If a thief entered your house and stole your laptop, will you start looking for money to buy another one or Chase after the thief to recover your property? This thing na common sense o Na corn dey block your view |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:12pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😄😁😁 In other words, we should borrow more. Thanks for being honest. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:15pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:That's your conclusion My conclusion to you is to stop defending corruption or excusing it by claiming we don't earn enough to satisfy our politicians' urge to loot and settle other things is the problem. End corrupt govt and save Nigeria!! |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:16pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:You mean recovering loot is borrowing? I don't get you here |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:16pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
lamentor78:There is no evil forces. Tinubu got in there to earn money and run the country..actual economic policy he had not because if he used the actual medicine Nigeria needed,.he would be out of power in minutes. Nigeria is a poor country..always has been..that is why any proper economic policy would lead to a lot of pain and suffering Even the reforms tinubu has been making were forced on him by years of borrowing and corruption..and even then he tried to borrow our way out of it, until it got more worse than usual. So here we are. At independence we had two solutions.. capitalism or socialism paid for by selling raw materials and loans..we chose the latter. And no, apc or tinubu ain't leading us out of this mess |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:18pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:No,let us continue to borrow. I understand. It takes years to recover loot, plus when the loot runs out what next? Oga, nothing for you again. Na to abuse me you know. Good afternoon. Come back when you are a more mature person. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:22pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:Go back and read my first response to you Stop defending corrupt politicians |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:25pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:Nigeria was a socialist country at independence? I'm hearing this for the first time The excuse of Nigeria being poor always comes up from the govt side when they're asked to live up to their promises OBJ implemented some economic policies in his time that did not lead to pain That time saw the emergence of a middle class that's been systematically wiped out under the guise of reforms Only a dullard will think wiping out the middle class is a good economic policy |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:26pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:IN other words, we borrow more. Yes, son, recover looted money, but it won't be recovered in time to pay for your subsides, so, borrow more. Good afternoon. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:27pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23: ![]() He lacks understanding, this one. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:29pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:SO we borrow more. THANKS, economic hitman. Your bosses would be proud of you. You are just like Helinues, you know. In many many ways... ![]() |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:30pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:You are just another party shill defending his party And a follower of Satan to boot. And a little child SO, we will borrow more, as you say. Good to know you agree with tinubu, and buhari. LOL. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:32pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Well, since this thread has gone down the drain, because I have lost my temper and am no longer acting mature...here is the summa of my beliefs. Opinion Pass the Books. Hold the Oil. Thomas L. Friedman By Thomas L. Friedman March 10, 2012 Share full article 308 EVERY so often someone asks me: “What’s your favorite country, other than your own?” I’ve always had the same answer: Taiwan. “Taiwan? Why Taiwan?” people ask. Very simple: Because Taiwan is a barren rock in a typhoon-laden sea with no natural resources to live off of — it even has to import sand and gravel from China for construction — yet it has the fourth-largest financial reserves in the world. Because rather than digging in the ground and mining whatever comes up, Taiwan has mined its 23 million people, their talent, energy and intelligence — men and women. I always tell my friends in Taiwan: “You’re the luckiest people in the world. How did you get so lucky? You have no oil, no iron ore, no forests, no diamonds, no gold, just a few small deposits of coal and natural gas — and because of that you developed the habits and culture of honing your people’s skills, which turns out to be the most valuable and only truly renewable resource in the world today. How did you get so lucky?” That, at least, was my gut instinct. But now we have proof. A team from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, or O.E.C.D., has just come out with a fascinating little study mapping the correlation between performance on the Program for International Student Assessment, or PISA, exam — which every two years tests math, science and reading comprehension skills of 15-year-olds in 65 countries — and the total earnings on natural resources as a percentage of G.D.P. for each participating country. In short, how well do your high school kids do on math compared with how much oil you pump or how many diamonds you dig? The results indicated that there was a “a significant negative relationship between the money countries extract from national resources and the knowledge and skills of their high school population,” said Andreas Schleicher, who oversees the PISA exams for the O.E.C.D. “This is a global pattern that holds across 65 countries that took part in the latest PISA assessment.” Oil and PISA don’t mix. (See the data map at: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/43/9/49881940.pdf.) As the Bible notes, added Schleicher, “Moses arduously led the Jews for 40 years through the desert — just to bring them to the only country in the Middle East that had no oil. But Moses may have gotten it right, after all. Today, Israel has one of the most innovative economies, and its population enjoys a standard of living most of the oil-rich countries in the region are not able to offer.” So hold the oil, and pass the books. According to Schleicher, in the latest PISA results, students in Singapore, Finland, South Korea, Hong Kong and Japan stand out as having high PISA scores and few natural resources, while Qatar and Kazakhstan stand out as having the highest oil rents and the lowest PISA scores. (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, Algeria, Bahrain, Iran and Syria stood out the same way in a similar 2007 Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study, or Timss, test, while, interestingly, students from Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey — also Middle East states with few natural resources — scored better.) Also lagging in recent PISA scores, though, were students in many of the resource-rich countries of Latin America, like Brazil, Mexico and Argentina. Africa was not tested. Canada, Australia and Norway, also countries with high levels of natural resources, still score well on PISA, in large part, argues Schleicher, because all three countries have established deliberate policies of saving and investing these resource rents, and not just consuming them. Image Thomas L. Friedman Credit...Josh Haner/The New York Times Add it all up and the numbers say that if you really want to know how a country is going to do in the 21st century, don’t count its oil reserves or gold mines, count its highly effective teachers, involved parents and committed students. “Today’s learning outcomes at school,” says Schleicher, “are a powerful predictor for the wealth and social outcomes that countries will reap in the long run.” Economists have long known about “Dutch disease,” which happens when a country becomes so dependent on exporting natural resources that its currency soars in value and, as a result, its domestic manufacturing gets crushed as cheap imports flood in and exports become too expensive. What the PISA team is revealing is a related disease: societies that get addicted to their natural resources seem to develop parents and young people who lose some of the instincts, habits and incentives for doing homework and honing skills. By, contrast, says Schleicher, “in countries with little in the way of natural resources — Finland, Singapore or Japan — education has strong outcomes and a high status, at least in part because the public at large has understood that the country must live by its knowledge and skills and that these depend on the quality of education. ... Every parent and child in these countries knows that skills will decide the life chances of the child and nothing else is going to rescue them, so they build a whole culture and education system around it.” Or as my Indian-American friend K. R. Sridhar, the founder of the Silicon Valley fuel-cell company Bloom Energy, likes to say, “When you don’t have resources, you become resourceful.” That’s why the foreign countries with the most companies listed on the Nasdaq are Israel, China/Hong Kong, Taiwan, India, South Korea and Singapore — none of which can live off natural resources. But there is an important message for the industrialized world in this study, too. In these difficult economic times, it is tempting to buttress our own standards of living today by incurring even greater financial liabilities for the future. To be sure, there is a role for stimulus in a prolonged recession, but “the only sustainable way is to grow our way out by giving more people the knowledge and skills to compete, collaborate and connect in a way that drives our countries forward,” argues Schleicher. In sum, says Schleicher, “knowledge and skills have become the global currency of 21st-century economies, but there is no central bank that prints this currency. Everyone has to decide on their own how much they will print.” Sure, it’s great to have oil, gas and diamonds; they can buy jobs. But they’ll weaken your society in the long run unless they’re used to build schools and a culture of lifelong learning. “The thing that will keep you moving forward,” says Schleicher, is always “what you bring to the table yourself.” SAUCE Apparently my wanting the above means I am agbado. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:32pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:Collecting tax will not grow in time to pay for subsidies either $582bn let it sink in Kuwait's SWF is $514bn LET IT SINK THROUGH YOUR THICK AGBADO SKULL!! |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:34pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
1. The Dutch Disease |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:35pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:36pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
They call the Third World the lazy man’s purview; the sluggishly slothful and languorous prefecture. In this realm people are sleepy, dreamy, torpid, lethargic, and therefore indigent—totally penniless, needy, destitute, poverty-stricken, disfavored, and impoverished. In this demesne, as they call it, there are hardly any discoveries, inventions, and innovations. Africa is the trailblazer. Some still call it “the dark continent” for the light that flickers under the tunnel is not that of hope, but an approaching train. And because countless keep waiting in the way of the train, millions die and many more remain decapitated by the day.Believing in Field Ruwe makes you agbado.... Apparently ![]() |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:38pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:So, we don't pay for subsides. Simple. We still raise tax, but use it for things like schools and healthcare. As many sane countries do. We can't do like KUwait because Kuwait produces more oil than we do for 5 million people. And we don't borrow at all And our economy would grow. But you want us to borrow more. And you get upset when it is pointed out. See how immature you are. ![]() |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:50pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:Did you just use Taiwan as an example of your failed economic theory ![]() If you want to know how Taiwan grew, Google TSMC, Morris Chang and Li Kwoh Ting Do you know that Taiwan has one of the lowest VAT rates in the world? It even has subsidy for no homeowners and pays as much as $1200 for every child born by a family!! You know nothing You think Taiwan grew by removing subsidy and devaluing its currency, you must be high on coke |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 3:54pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:We can't do like Kuwait because Kuwait has SWF of $514bn while we're have looted wealth of $582bn. Stop making excuses for corruption. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 3:58pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:So, as you said, we borrow. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 4:02pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:So what? Every country borrows |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by nairalanda1(op): 4:04pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
Kukutente23:As for me, we need our Millei, Park, Kwam Yeu and Deng now. |
| Re: If You Support Fuel Subsidy Removal, You Are A Tinubu, Gej And Buhari Supporter. by Kukutente23: 4:08pm On Oct 20, 2024 |
nairalanda1:Deng, Park and Kwam will kill all our looters and ensure their loots are confiscated to govt to start with Why do you love to defend corruption though ![]() |
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