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Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by uuzba(m): 9:14am On Oct 21, 2024
Ola9ja23:
Lovely article
I know that LNG is used for cooking gas
CNG mainly for powering plant, gen or small vehicle

Hope I'm correct 😀
LNG (Liquified natural gas) is a mix of Propane and Butane. I think in Nigeria we have more Butane than Propane in the mix
and in the UK they have the other way, more propane than Butane in the mix. it has to do with the temperatures of these 2 different countries. UK is cold and they don't want their gas to freeze in the cylinder. Nigeria is hot and we don't want the gas to explode in the cylinder.
Hence the changes.
Our cookers have been designed to use it well, mix with air and burn. You can buy a UK cooker and it will work here In Nigeria.

CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) is basically Methane.
It burns at a low temperature. Ie, you need more of it to burn same rate as Propane/Butane mix.
So if you use it in a cooker, it will just blow out and quench.
There are special cookers that can use it.. Maybe in the US or something.
Some people have made the mistake of buying a fancy gas cooker from the US designed for CNG (methane),
...not reading the specifications and then shitting in their pant with surprise when the cooker doesn't work
with our gas in Nigeria.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by gentleguy1975: 9:18am On Oct 21, 2024
@no 1,if the lng temperature is 162degree,it means different substances has different freezing temperatures because at that temperature water becomes ice
@number 6, I am confused here, you said lng is safer because it turns to gas if it leaks but then it becomes risky if warms up too much because it might turn back to gas!
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by FireUpNow(m): 9:23am On Oct 21, 2024
GanagiBitrus:
This CNG storage pressure of up to 3,600 psi will possibly pose devastating explosion risks.

In event of an accident, 3600psi explosion go be like bomb.
What's the source of CNG and LNG?
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by XploraBen(m): 9:30am On Oct 21, 2024
pocohantas:
Pheèew! May your gentle soul continue to rest in peace, Gazzuzz.
Please what happened to him?
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by agentarcher(m): 9:51am On Oct 21, 2024
Educational post that our people will ignore.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by Sirwallace(m): 9:54am On Oct 21, 2024
pocohantas:
Pheèew! May your gentle soul continue to rest in peace, Gazzuzz.
Gazuzz don die?
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by Frezhkid10(m): 9:55am On Oct 21, 2024
Ola9ja23:
Lovely article
I know that LNG is used for cooking gas
CNG mainly for powering plant, gen or small vehicle

Hope I'm correct 😀
No!!..LPG is for cooking gas and not LNG
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by mankan2k7(m): 10:13am On Oct 21, 2024
My fear for CNG is explosion.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by Mordson: 10:24am On Oct 21, 2024
The one that caused a massive explosion of a car some days ago?
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by LillyandDaisy: 10:26am On Oct 21, 2024
I need to know how to start the biz abeg
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by damosade(m): 10:37am On Oct 21, 2024
God bless you for this information.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by franvincoop: 10:51am On Oct 21, 2024
It's natural gas, just note that it's not from petroleum refining.
Can be from cracks in the ground or natural decaying waste.
Have u ever heard about biogas which is obtainable from decaying waste or dung?
If you purify and compress biogas, you get CNG.
I am presently using purified biogas collected in gas bags for cooking and running my generator from cow dung and kitchen waste.
With a quality compressor, I can compress it and put into gas cylinders for use in vehicles or cooking.
This is CNG.

FireUpNow:
What's the source of CNG and LNG?
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by Emco1: 10:58am On Oct 21, 2024
franvincoop:
It's natural gas, just note that it's not from petroleum refining.
Can be from cracks in the ground or natural decaying waste.
Have u ever heard about biogas which is obtainable from decaying waste or dung?
If you purify and compress biogas, you get CNG.
I am presently using purified biogas collected in gas bags for cooking and running my generator from cow dung and kitchen waste.
With a quality compressor, I can compress it and put into gas cylinders for use in vehicles or cooking.
This is CNG.
Please how did you do it, I need it for my generator
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by franvincoop: 11:00am On Oct 21, 2024
Methane burns cleaner than butane/propane mix with full beautiful blue flame.

I am a specialist in gases - biogas, CBG, LNG, CNG, purification, upgrading, compression.

The gas cookers you see here can run on both methane and butane/propane mix.

uuzba:
LNG (Liquified natural gas) is a mix of Propane and Butane. I think in Nigeria we have more Butane than Propane in the mix
and in the UK they have the other way, more propane than Butane in the mix. it has to do with the temperatures of these 2 different countries. UK is cold and they don't want their gas to freeze in the cylinder. Nigeria is hot and we don't want the gas to explode in the cylinder.
Hence the changes.
Our cookers have been designed to use it well, mix with air and burn. You can buy a UK cooker and it will work here In Nigeria.

CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) is basically Methane.
It burns at a low temperature. Ie, you need more of it to burn same rate as Propane/Butane mix.
So if you use it in a cooker, it will just blow out and quench.
There are special cookers that can use it.. Maybe in the US or something.
Some people have made the mistake of buying a fancy gas cooker from the US designed for CNG (methane),
...not reading the specifications and then shitting in their pant with surprise when the cooker doesn't work
with our gas in Nigeria.

Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by MichaelSokoto(m): 11:12am On Oct 21, 2024
Tom1960:
They are protected from over pressure by relief valves and other safety devices. That's why you should do the conversion in an authorized center . It's very safe when all safety protections are put in place and working.
Ok
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by Barzinime(m): 11:27am On Oct 21, 2024
You have little knowledge and they say knowledge is power.
Go and acquire knowledge and stop following the foolish majority that have decided not to think.
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Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by adonainana: 12:03pm On Oct 21, 2024
Does anyone on here know a plug or whether it’s possible to change a diesel generator from a diesel source to a source that users CNG or LNG

Like how much is a cubic metre of this gases and how much fuel would it save me compare to diesel

I am thinking of opening a Garri making factory

Cost of diesel to power the Garri making machinery is why some people have put thier factory for sale these last few years

If truly a machine can be converted to use cheap gas instead of petrol and diesel then it’s a jackpot

Also I plan of farming goats on the same site I am doing the Garri making factory. Cassava peels are the end by product of Garri making

This means the goats would have free mr Biggs to eat everyday

All the wasted by products from the cassava straight to the goat mouth

Then later as production of my Garri grows I plan of opening a mini restaurant that only sells one item , Eba and any soup of your choice with meat for just 1,000 naira . Because the Garri for the Eba comes from my factory , it’s more or less FREE. And the price of 1,000 naira for a plate of Eba, soup and meat would see a lot of patronage in these hard times especially if it’s located in a busy area where workers are located

My location is Ibadan I have all the shipments and workforce ready

I would need investors too just in case anyone is interested in making crazy money despite all the wahala that is happening in this country at the moment

Regards

Barrister Akinola Samuel Eluyefa
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by FireUpNow(m): 12:12pm On Oct 21, 2024
franvincoop:
It's natural gas, just note that it's not from petroleum refining.
Can be from cracks in the ground or natural decaying waste.
Have u ever heard about biogas which is obtainable from decaying waste or dung?
If you purify and compress biogas, you get CNG.
I am presently using purified biogas collected in gas bags for cooking and running my generator from cow dung and kitchen waste.
With a quality compressor, I can compress it and put into gas cylinders for use in vehicles or cooking.
This is CNG.
Thank you so much for the information. Appreciated.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by commoditiesnig(m): 12:13pm On Oct 21, 2024
Excellent piece of info
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by professore(m): 12:20pm On Oct 21, 2024
These things are highly flammable and risky.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by GanagiBitrus: 12:32pm On Oct 21, 2024
FireUpNow:
What's the source of CNG and LNG?
Natural Gas. Same source as Crude oil.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by yommysure(m): 1:11pm On Oct 21, 2024
Nice business idea but no be everyone will like to eat eba….



quote author=adonainana post=132524032]Does anyone on here know a plug or whether it’s possible to change a diesel generator from a diesel source to a source that users CNG or LNG

Like how much is a cubic metre of this gases and how much fuel would it save me compare to diesel

I am thinking of opening a Garri making factory

Cost of diesel to power the Garri making machinery is why some people have put thier factory for sale these last few years

If truly a machine can be converted to use cheap gas instead of petrol and diesel then it’s a jackpot

Also I plan of farming goats on the same site I am doing the Garri making factory. Cassava peels are the end by product of Garri making

This means the goats would have free mr Biggs to eat everyday

All the wasted by products from the cassava straight to the goat mouth

Then later as production of my Garri grows I plan of opening a mini restaurant that only sells one item , Eba and any soup of your choice with meat for just 1,000 naira . Because the Garri for the Eba comes from my factory , it’s more or less FREE. And the price of 1,000 naira for a plate of Eba, soup and meat would see a lot of patronage in these hard times especially if it’s located in a busy area where workers are located

My location is Ibadan I have all the shipments and workforce ready

I would need investors too just in case anyone is interested in making crazy money despite all the wahala that is happening in this country at the moment

Regards

Barrister Akinola Samuel Eluyefa[/quote]
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by TheBigBossMan: 1:14pm On Oct 21, 2024
[Be like your speciality na chemistry quote author=flokii post=132510810]

LPG is used as cooking gas, not LNG.

What you're using for cooking (i.e LPG) is propane (for Nigeria) or butane gas (in some other countries. Either C3H8 or C4H10 is the LPG (liquefied petroleum gas).

LNG requires liquefaction units or LNG trains for the cooling process (cryogenic cooling) at very low temperature (-160 to -165 degrees Celcius which is approx. -260 degrees Fahrenheit). It's basically used for fueling in long distances e.g. ships and can be regasified for compression under pressure to get CNG.[/quote]
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by FireUpNow(m): 1:33pm On Oct 21, 2024
GanagiBitrus:
Natural Gas. Same source as Crude oil.
So amazing to know. Thanks
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by lereinter(m): 1:54pm On Oct 21, 2024
adonainana:
Does anyone on here know a plug or whether it’s possible to change a diesel generator from a diesel source to a source that users CNG or LNG

Like how much is a cubic metre of this gases and how much fuel would it save me compare to diesel

I am thinking of opening a Garri making factory

Cost of diesel to power the Garri making machinery is why some people have put thier factory for sale these last few years

If truly a machine can be converted to use cheap gas instead of petrol and diesel then it’s a jackpot

Also I plan of farming goats on the same site I am doing the Garri making factory. Cassava peels are the end by product of Garri making

This means the goats would have free mr Biggs to eat everyday

All the wasted by products from the cassava straight to the goat mouth

Then later as production of my Garri grows I plan of opening a mini restaurant that only sells one item , Eba and any soup of your choice with meat for just 1,000 naira . Because the Garri for the Eba comes from my factory , it’s more or less FREE. And the price of 1,000 naira for a plate of Eba, soup and meat would see a lot of patronage in these hard times especially if it’s located in a busy area where workers are located

My location is Ibadan I have all the shipments and workforce ready

I would need investors too just in case anyone is interested in making crazy money despite all the wahala that is happening in this country at the moment

Regards

Barrister Akinola Samuel Eluyefa
Sell only eba 😟

This your restaurant idea na real T-Pain era induced business mentality

Lolzzzzz 🤣

Instead of thinking of conversion, go buy cng or lng generator

The sellers will do installation

But I think diesel plant is good Sha
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by Love800(m): 2:26pm On Oct 21, 2024
Where are you buying the cow dungs gas from?
franvincoop:
It's natural gas, just note that it's not from petroleum refining.
Can be from cracks in the ground or natural decaying waste.
Have u ever heard about biogas which is obtainable from decaying waste or dung?
If you purify and compress biogas, you get CNG.
I am presently using purified biogas collected in gas bags for cooking and running my generator from cow dung and kitchen waste.
With a quality compressor, I can compress it and put into gas cylinders for use in vehicles or cooking.
This is CNG.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by franvincoop: 2:39pm On Oct 21, 2024
We are not buying the gas but we are producing it ourselves and including the household biogas plant for sale.
U can use poultry, pig, goat or even human excreta in your toilet and it will still produce biogas.
We have a system that purifies and upgrades it to
NG - Natural gas which is 90%+ Methane but because we don't compress it, we can't call it CNG.


Love800:
Where are you buying the cow dungs gas from?
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by franvincoop:
I will be making a thread here on nairaland about biogas and biogas plants very soon.
I will let you know when I do.

Emco1:
Please how did you do it, I need it for my generator
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by adonainana: 3:01pm On Oct 21, 2024
yommysure:
Nice business idea but no be everyone will like to eat eba….



quote author=adonainana post=132524032]Does anyone on here know a plug or whether it’s possible to change a diesel generator from a diesel source to a source that users CNG or LNG

Like how much is a cubic metre of this gases and how much fuel would it save me compare to diesel

I am thinking of opening a Garri making factory

Cost of diesel to power the Garri making machinery is why some people have put thier factory for sale these last few years

If truly a machine can be converted to use cheap gas instead of petrol and diesel then it’s a jackpot

Also I plan of farming goats on the same site I am doing the Garri making factory. Cassava peels are the end by product of Garri making

This means the goats would have free mr Biggs to eat everyday

All the wasted by products from the cassava straight to the goat mouth

Then later as production of my Garri grows I plan of opening a mini restaurant that only sells one item , Eba and any soup of your choice with meat for just 1,000 naira . Because the Garri for the Eba comes from my factory , it’s more or less FREE. And the price of 1,000 naira for a plate of Eba, soup and meat would see a lot of patronage in these hard times especially if it’s located in a busy area where workers are located

My location is Ibadan I have all the shipments and workforce ready

I would need investors too just in case anyone is interested in making crazy money despite all the wahala that is happening in this country at the moment

Regards

Barrister Akinola Samuel Eluyefa
Desperate times call for desperate measures now , if the Eba is affordable and has meat inside and is under 1,000 naira. Some people will buy it 3 times a day cos the alternative is not affordable with the way Nigeria is at the moment

You don’t eat Eba everyday because you get choice, na person wey get money in this t pain era that has choice

Eba with different soup too could make things a littlle bit more attractive
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by franvincoop: 3:11pm On Oct 21, 2024
Yes, but CNG is a whole lot less risky than that gas cylinder in your kitchen right now and less flammable than it.
I have been using it since 2017, no be today we dey use am.
See CNG is lighter than air, if it leaks it will just evaporate above as air will disperse it immediately and the whole gas leak will disappear in an instant and secondly sparks cannot cause it to ignite it will need a full flame near it to ignite.
LNG is the same gas which had been Liquified well below zero degree that is why your gas cylinder is always dead cold, if it leaks, it is heavier than air and will displace air to rise above it while it will pool on the ground roaming around for its(the gas)temperature to increase and make it lighter than air before it disperses, only God knows how long that will take if you are a chosen or not but you will be having a dangerous situation on your hand cuz if someone as much as flips on a switch, y'all burn in hell.
Capiche?
No offence meant and not wishing any bad thing to your family.




professore:
These things are highly flammable and risky.
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by franvincoop: 3:17pm On Oct 21, 2024
I can design a biogas plant for your project, which will use all the wastewater from the cassava/garri process and the dung of the goats to generate gas on site which you can use for cooking and running a generator for electricity plus the same plant will provide you with quality fertiliser for your farming all year round.
This will cost less than a million naira.

adonainana:
Does anyone on here know a plug or whether it’s possible to change a diesel generator from a diesel source to a source that users CNG or LNG

Like how much is a cubic metre of this gases and how much fuel would it save me compare to diesel

I am thinking of opening a Garri making factory

Cost of diesel to power the Garri making machinery is why some people have put thier factory for sale these last few years

If truly a machine can be converted to use cheap gas instead of petrol and diesel then it’s a jackpot

Also I plan of farming goats on the same site I am doing the Garri making factory. Cassava peels are the end by product of Garri making

This means the goats would have free mr Biggs to eat everyday

All the wasted by products from the cassava straight to the goat mouth

Then later as production of my Garri grows I plan of opening a mini restaurant that only sells one item , Eba and any soup of your choice with meat for just 1,000 naira . Because the Garri for the Eba comes from my factory , it’s more or less FREE. And the price of 1,000 naira for a plate of Eba, soup and meat would see a lot of patronage in these hard times especially if it’s located in a busy area where workers are located

My location is Ibadan I have all the shipments and workforce ready

I would need investors too just in case anyone is interested in making crazy money despite all the wahala that is happening in this country at the moment

Regards

Barrister Akinola Samuel Eluyefa
Re: 6 Differences Between CNG And LNG by adonainana: 4:05pm On Oct 21, 2024
franvincoop:
I can design a biogas plant for your project, which will use all the wastewater from the cassava/garri process and the dung of the goats to generate gas on site which you can use for cooking and running a generator for electricity plus the same plant will provide you with quality fertiliser for your farming all year round.
This will cost less than a million naira.
Hmm I thought of the same idea , the factory site has a soak away already and the goats poo would surely work . Send me your WhatsApp and let’s see if truly the cost of the bio gas digester would be super cheap then surely it’s doable

Besides what type of biogas would the soak away be releasing or there is no parity cake name for it it’s just called
Bio gas
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