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Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 2:45pm On Oct 21, 2024
grin Today is Benjamin Natanyahu’s birthday.
Sad birthday to him
Short life and poverty SLAP
May Iran continue to slap Israel under your reign.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 3:02pm On Oct 21, 2024
johnayo01:
The ANC and HAMAS are false equivalence.

ANC were rebel group fighting for their people.
HAMAS on the other hand are terrorising both Israel and the people of Palestine.
In case you want to ask how they are terrorising Palestine, aside fighting for them, they steal aids donated to the people.
The ANC did not use their women and children as human shield, HAMAS even have tunnels to hide and protect this children from the bombs, but they prefer the current outcome.

ANC through Mandela have brokered a deal for the survival of his people, HAMAS find a way to start up the war at every interval to profit from it.

My view maybe wrong and I stand to be corrected.
While both of them can claim to be occupied and apartheid, the interest and methodology of getting it resolved is totally different .
shocked U completely wrong
Oct7, why don’t you say IDF used dead Israeli civilians as human shield? U say Hamas killed civilians in Israel. Yet in Gaza u say Hamas is using Palestinians as human shields? Complete lies. It just an IDF excuse to slaughter innocent people. Zionists say in Gaza, there are no innocents! They say even a baby can be killed and IDF snipers shoot children in the twice to make it clear, the act was no mistake.
You are a partaker in genocide by ur rubbish parroting of Zionist narratives.
Hamas is fighting for their homeland against the most brutal settler colonialists ever known to man. And Hamas will prevail. Israel better recognize the right of Palestinians to have their state or lose everything they now have. The choice is theirs and times running out!
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by J3susFr3ak: 3:04pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
Oct7 is not Yom Kippur. Stop lying
That was an oversight on my sight. October 7th 2003 was Simchat Torah ---which was equally a solemn Jewish Holiday which felll on the Sabbath in which Hamas took advantage of.

The remaining core message of that post remains accurate.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Kukutente23: 3:05pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
grin It is only in Israel an army will open fire on its own people, becos militants are in their midst. Is like shooting at ur own family because intruders huddled up among them, then justifying it by saying what else could I have done? Could I just fold my hands and watch intruders molest my family? Wot a backward argument?
Common sense is to attempt to isolate the militants from the civilians before any serious military gun fight or if not possible, allow to abduct the civilians, then negotiate their release b4 you turn around to exact your revenge. Right now, IDF is bombing Gaza, killing the hostages, while publicly shouting we want our hostages? Can’t u see it’s a LIE? There are Israeli hostages with Hamas since 10yrs ago! Israel does not care. They keep saying those hostages are dead even when Hamas release videos of them being alive.
As for Deborah’s killing in the north, you waste time trying to equate religious killing to politics. It’s completely UNRELATED.
Every religious killing is unjustified and condemned as unreasonable. Religious killings is same as cult killings. Cos religion is a cult. Christian cults kill Muslims in Benue state as well. It’s all madness.
Jews have burnt more than 50churches in Israel dis year alone and killed so many Christians. That not what Oct7 is about. So, stop confusing yourself
What were the militants looking for among the civilians in the first place? Is a party the army barracks of force headquarters? I remember Russia once bombed a cinema house with hostages inside. I didn't see you call Russia names for that. You are trying to tell Israel how to react so as to reduce casualties and in essence eliminate the need to bomb Gaza while you absolve Hamas off blame in attacking a party.
The part of Deborah is not about the religious aspect. There are those who blame her for insulting the prophet. Such people say if you don't want to die, don't insult the prophet. That's their justification for her gruesome murder. That's what I'm asking if you agree with or not and not necessarily the religious angle
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by J3susFr3ak: 3:09pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
grin It is only in Israel an army will open fire on its own people, becos militants are in their midst. Is like shooting at ur own family because intruders huddled up among them, then justifying it by saying what else could I have done? Could I just fold my hands and watch intruders molest my family? Wot a backward argument?
Common sense is to attempt to isolate the militants from the civilians before any serious military gun fight or if not possible, allow to abduct the civilians, then negotiate their release b4 you turn around to exact your revenge. Right now, IDF is bombing Gaza, killing the hostages, while publicly shouting we want our hostages? Can’t u see it’s a LIE? There are Israeli hostages with Hamas since 10yrs ago! Israel does not care. They keep saying those hostages are dead even when Hamas release videos of them being alive.
As for Deborah’s killing in the north, you waste time trying to equate religious killing to politics. It’s completely UNRELATED.
Every religious killing is unjustified and condemned as unreasonable. Religious killings is same as cult killings. Cos religion is a cult. Christian cults kill Muslims in Benue state as well. It’s all madness.
Jews have burnt more than 50churches in Israel dis year alone and killed so many Christians. That not what Oct7 is about. So, stop confusing yourself
There were initial friendly fires made by mistake since Hamas was also using the hostages as bait for the IDF soldiers to lure them into a building and street and then ambush them.

Why would the IDF value the lives of their own people since it was the release of a kidnapped Israeli soldier that eventually led to the release of 1000 jailed Palestinean criminals years ago in which Sinwar was the beneficiary.

Hundreds of years ago, Jews all over Europe and the Middle East will contribute millions of equivalent dollars to release even one Jewish person from slavery...because they valued human lives and freedom.

This core value has not changed today despite deceptive posts like yours that make it seem so.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by bdsm: 3:11pm On Oct 21, 2024
GBTYO:
Over 50 survivors of the attack have so far been suicided.

You know why?

Because these are the guys who refused to back down and went to town telling people that IDF soldiers and helicopter gunships shot at the concert.

The IDF killed most of their own people on Oct 7 and most of the survivors know this .

I know Jews are chicken hearted but how can 50 survivors commit suicide within a year of Oct 7.

Does not make sense until you know that they didn't commit suicide but were murdered by IDF.

Israel knew before hand that the attack will happen and they let it happen and when it was going on, IDF and Mossad goons fired on their own to max the casualties so as to enrage the Israeli public to accept total war on Gaza.

It was a pyschop.

Edit:

I see 0koro judases mentioning me and spewing trash.

The Mossad that has been suiciding these survivors has as their motto the pic related below
You think like an intelligence agent. Israel allowed it to happen. There was no way Hamas would invade without the knowledge of Shin Bet. I heard Shin Bet are even more proactive than Mossad because the enemies within is greater than those in foreign nations.

The War with Iran would happen it's in the Dogma of the Illuminati to usher in the 3rd World War to bring about the New World Order.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 3:41pm On Oct 21, 2024
Kukutente23:
What were the militants looking for among the civilians in the first place? Is a party the army barracks of force headquarters? I remember Russia once bombed a cinema house with hostages inside. I didn't see you call Russia names for that. You are trying to tell Israel how to react so as to reduce casualties and in essence eliminate the need to bomb Gaza while you absolve Hamas off blame in attacking a party.
The part of Deborah is not about the religious aspect. There are those who blame her for insulting the prophet. Such people say if you don't want to die, don't insult the prophet. That's their justification for her gruesome murder. That's what I'm asking if you agree with or not and not necessarily the religious angle
grin What is Hamas doing in Gaza u mean?
All the places Hamas raided Oct7 are all part and parcel of the 1948 Gaza! Those people at the party are illegal migrants. Detaining illegal migrants is not an offense under international law. Israel is occupying Palestine, even in the eye of the law! You have to get that into ur mind. They don’t own those places they are living in.
Then can u pls give me the place Russia bombed a cinema? Or on what date?
Bombing Gaza with ur hostages in the place, is sure proof u don’t care about ur hostages. Simple. Even one of the hostages died this morning! In the north were Israel has been burning people alive.
As for Deborah, she insulted a religious prophet and members of the religious group attacked her and yet to u, it’s not a religious killing? Religion is idiotic dats all am telling you. Separate it from what’s happening in Gaza. Cos there are Christians Muslims and even Jews on all sides of the conflict. IDF kill Jews in West Bank over land. Yes! All religion is on all the sides. There are Christians in Hezbollah fighting IDF right now. So how foolish can NLders be seeing the fight as Christians vs Muslims nonsense?
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 3:53pm On Oct 21, 2024
J3susFr3ak:
There were initial friendly fires made by mistake since Hamas was also using the hostages as bait for the IDF soldiers to lure them into a building and street and then ambush them.

Why would the IDF value the lives of their own people since it was the release of a kidnapped Israeli soldier that eventually led to the release of 1000 jailed Palestinean criminals years ago in which Sinwar was the beneficiary.

Hundreds of years ago, Jews all over Europe and the Middle East will contribute millions of equivalent dollars to release even one Jewish person from slavery...because they valued human lives and freedom.

This core value has not changed today despite deceptive posts like yours that make it seem so.
Friendly fire inside Israel? Or why u keep telling lies? How many testimonies of survivors have u listened to? Israelis were shot dead by IDF without mercy Oct7. IDF used Tanks, planes and helicopters to kill their own people and then blamed it on Hamas.
If Israel cared about hostages, they would have attempted to secure the release of prisoners with Hamas since 10yrs now.
As for hardened criminals, it depends which lens you wear. All the IDF fighting in Gaza right now are hardened criminals to Hamas, whereas they are hero’s to Israel. Those Palestinians Israel see as hardened criminals are heroes in Palestine.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Mrexcell(m): 4:06pm On Oct 21, 2024
GBTYO:
Over 50 survivors of the attack have so far been suicided.

You know why?

Because these are the guys who refused to back down and went to town telling people that IDF soldiers and helicopter gunships shot at the concert.

The IDF killed most of their own people on Oct 7 and most of the survivors know this .

I know Jews are chicken hearted but how can 50 survivors commit suicide within a year of Oct 7.

Does not make sense until you know that they didn't commit suicide but were murdered by IDF.

Israel knew before hand that the attack will happen and they let it happen and when it was going on, IDF and Mossad goons fired on their own to max the casualties so as to enrage the Israeli public to accept total war on Gaza.

It was a pyschop.

Edit:

I see 0koro judases mentioning me and spewing trash.

The Mossad that has been suiciding these survivors has as their motto the pic related below
Nice propaganda and conspiracy theories there.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by SenatePresdo(m): 4:09pm On Oct 21, 2024
GBTYO:
Olodo

She like the over 50 survivors who have been suicided by Satanyahu were the few survivors who went about telling the world that the concert was shot up by IDF helicopter gunships .

The IDF have been given ground orders to execute every hostage still with Hamas .

Several hostages who were freed or escaped from Hamas were shot dead by IDF goons .

Satanyahu needs the survivors dead because only them know who shot at the concert and it wasn't Hamas but IDF helicopter gunships
Ibadan Expressway fake news merchants.

You were there when all these were happening.

What's your proof - my friend tell me say.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by J3susFr3ak: 4:12pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
Friendly fire inside Israel? Or why u keep telling lies? How many testimonies of survivors have u listened to? Israelis were shot dead by IDF without mercy Oct7. IDF used Tanks, planes and helicopters to kill their own people and then blamed it on Hamas.
If Israel cared about hostages, they would have attempted to secure the release of prisoners with Hamas since 10yrs now.
As for hardened criminals, it depends which lens you wear. All the IDF fighting in Gaza right now are hardened criminals to Hamas, whereas they are hero’s to Israel. Those Palestinians Israel see as hardened criminals are heroes in Palestine.
NOT referring to friendly fires inside of Israel on the 7th of October because there were none.

I was refering to the very beginning of the war when the IDF finally moved into Gaza...when the IDF mstakely shot two of their hostages who finaly broke free by mistake.

The IDF has shown a lot more grace and patience to the Gazans especially given the vivid carnage and deaths they had caused on October 7th. Even pre-warning them ahead of time of any strikes or bombings.

I would not say the Gazans and Islamists generaly are not any gracious. This is why the sum ttotal of military might and power is not in their favor globally. Israel has had nukes since the 1960s but has since been humble and quiet about it. Iran is just about pushing hard to create Uranium yields that could make a bomb and already they are behaving like a spoilt brat misbehaving and terrorising everyone like they are cursed.

You see why the world will never be at peace with irresponsible Islamic countries and fanatics cursed with oil and willing to sponsor deaths everywhere? Yes...even inside your Nigeria too.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Kukutente23: 4:15pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
grin What is Hamas doing in Gaza u mean?
All the places Hamas raided Oct7 are all part and parcel of the 1948 Gaza! Those people at the party are illegal migrants. Detaining illegal migrants is not an offense under international law. Israel is occupying Palestine, even in the eye of the law! You have to get that into ur mind. They don’t own those places they are living in.
Then can u pls give me the place Russia bombed a cinema? Or on what date?
Bombing Gaza with ur hostages in the place, is sure proof u don’t care about ur hostages. Simple. Even one of the hostages died this morning! In the north were Israel has been burning people alive.
As for Deborah, she insulted a religious prophet and members of the religious group attacked her and yet to u, it’s not a religious killing? Religion is idiotic dats all am telling you. Separate it from what’s happening in Gaza. Cos there are Christians Muslims and even Jews on all sides of the conflict. IDF kill Jews in West Bank over land. Yes! All religion is on all the sides. There are Christians in Hezbollah fighting IDF right now. So how foolish can NLders be seeing the fight as Christians vs Muslims nonsense?
Well, if you are going to see it as 1948 Gaza, the Israeli can also come and say they inhabited and owned those places since biblical times. They can also say those people being bombed are all terrorists. Bombing terrorists is not an offence under international law. Hamas and Palestinians are occupying Israeli lands even in the eyes of the law. They don't own those places they are living in. You see how no one has monopoly of madness now? The fact remains that Hamas attacked civilians unprovoked on Oct 7th and you're blaming Israeli military for not preventing the attack or worst case, prevent an escalation of the attack.
If you choose to insist that the killing of Deborah is religious, I won't debate it. The point I'm bringing out of it is that people always look to justify their deeds with their biases without looking at the other side.
You can check out the Moscow theatre hostage certified crisis of 2002 to instance understand what I'm talking about that happened in Russia
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 4:49pm On Oct 21, 2024
Kukutente23:
Well, if you are going to see it as 1948 Gaza, the Israeli can also come and say they inhabited and owned those places since biblical times. They can also say those people being bombed are all terrorists. Bombing terrorists is not an offence under international law. Hamas and Palestinians are occupying Israeli lands even in the eyes of the law. They don't own those places they are living in. You see how no one has monopoly of madness now? The fact remains that Hamas attacked civilians unprovoked on Oct 7th and you're blaming Israeli military for not preventing the attack or worst case, prevent an escalation of the attack.
If you choose to insist that the killing of Deborah is religious, I won't debate it. The point I'm bringing out of it is that people always look to justify their deeds with their biases without looking at the other side.
You can check out the Moscow theatre hostage certified crisis of 2002 to instance understand what I'm talking about that happened in Russia
Indeed Israel has been making stupid claims, something like, the most moral army in the world. Whereas the UN has designated them as risk to children. No claim of Israel, including owning the land 2000yrs ago holds up to scrutiny. It’s all lies no serious scholar or politician support. There has never been Israel in Palestine. If u ask them where all the people of Israel went, they will tell u, they are the 11 lost tribes! No trace. Then they will tell u Romans expelled all Jews from Judaea and named the place Palestine.
Complete bullshit from rubbish Jews who are ethnically Europeans!
As for Russia. I know about the theater incident in 2002 involving the Chechen militants. But Russia didn’t bomb the place as u claimed, they stormed it and killed a lot of civilians. Which is stupid! Russia is the one of least example u should advance. Cos they are number one in killing their own people. Do u know how many Russians, Russia killed in WW2?
Even now in Kursk, u won’t believe how Russia is bombing their own territory!
Religion has no context in the war in Gaza. It is resistance against a brutal settler colonialists running a death cult.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by meobizy(m): 4:54pm On Oct 21, 2024
Okay… and?
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by adabaraabdul: 4:58pm On Oct 21, 2024
redcliff:
Weak humans. See the person wey a full govt kill 40k people for.
40k people of mostly women and children....
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by J3susFr3ak: 5:05pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
Indeed Israel has been making stupid claims, something like, the most moral army in the world. Whereas the UN has designated them as risk to children. No claim of Israel, including owning the land 2000yrs ago holds up to scrutiny. It’s all lies no serious scholar or politician support. There has never been Israel in Palestine. If u ask them where all the people of Israel went, they will tell u, they are the 11 lost tribes! No trace. Then they will tell u Romans expelled all Jews from Judaea and named the place Palestine.
Complete bullshit from rubbish Jews who are ethnically Europeans!
As for Russia. I know about the theater incident in 2002 involving the Chechen militants. But Russia didn’t bomb the place as u claimed, they stormed it and killed a lot of civilians. Which is stupid! Russia is the one of least example u should advance. Cos they are number one in killing their own people. Do u know how many Russians, Russia killed in WW2?
Even now in Kursk, u won’t believe how Russia is bombing their own territory!
Religion has no context in the war in Gaza. It is resistance against a brutal settler colonialists running a death cult.
Translation: The Bible that both Jews and Christians believe in to have core Historical validity backed by Archaeology is a LIE. Why? Because Krismas and the whole of Islam says so.

For thousands of years Jews in North Africa and other parts of the Middle East lived with Muslims and had to flee for their lives to reside in Israel after 1948....suddenly those Jews are also "not Jews". Why? Because Krismas says so.

DNA evidence that connects both European Ashkenazik to N. AFrican/ Middle East Shephardic Jews to one common Ancestry with unique genetic traits and markers should be thrown out the window. Why? Because Krismas says so.

You do have a long way to go friend.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m):
J3susFr3ak:
NOT referring to friendly fires inside of Israel on the 7th of October because there were none.

I was refering to the very beginning of the war when the IDF finally moved into Gaza...when the IDF mstakely shot two of their hostages who finaly broke free by mistake.

The IDF has shown a lot more grace and patience to the Gazans especially given the vivid carnage and deaths they had caused on October 7th. Even pre-warning them ahead of time of any strikes or bombings.

I would not say the Gazans and Islamists generaly are not any gracious. This is why the sum ttotal of military might and power is not in their favor globally. Israel has had nukes since the 1960s but has since been humble and quiet about it. Iran is just about pushing hard to create Uranium yields that could make a bomb and already they are behaving like a spoilt brat misbehaving and terrorising everyone like they are cursed.

You see why the world will never be at peace with irresponsible Islamic countries and fanatics cursed with oil and willing to sponsor deaths everywhere? Yes...even inside your Nigeria too.
grin It’s either u are, out out ignorant or you are a liar!
U dish out a lot of misinformation.
1. All monitoring bodies in Gaza, both Doctors Without Borders, UN, independent aid bodies, American lawmakers, Journalists Many people rioting in all the cities of the world, etc agree UNANIMOUSLY that IDF is deliberately targeting civilians.

2. IDF killed their own people Oct7 inside Israel and blamed it on Hamas. That’s why Israel refused to allow independent investigation into the incident and have withdrawn their own personal investigations into the matter from public scrutiny. Most of the absurd claims of systemic rape and beheaded babies have been debunked severally by independent journalism.

3. It’s a lie that Hamas is using Palestinians as shields. Even if that were true, the rules of war is clear about killing civilians in a bid to get to a militant. It’s war crime. Israel killed over 100 innocent people and spent almost $7million dollars to kill Nasrallah. It’s war crime. But they always behave like they are above the law.

4. Israel has dropped more bombs in Gaza than the Nukes America dropped on both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, plus the bomb dropped on Dresden by Britain. Nuke is measured in explosive power. Gaza has been Nuked almost 4times Hiroshima and Nagasaki over

5. Iran has not gone to war with any of its neighbors in recent memory. We can say same for Israel. Iran is not trying to expand its territory, Israel has no defined territory. They are now saying south of Lebanon is part of Israel, in Syria Israel has crossed the blue line with their tanks into Syrian controlled golan. They are stupid neighbors. Iran is never the problem, Israel is.

6. Jihadists group like Al-qaeda, ISIS etc are not Islamic as they pretend to. Cos they attack Muslims more and are found to be Zionists anytime u catch them. In Nigeria Boko haram has killed more Muslims than Christians. How can they represent Islam?
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by MrPRevailer(m): 5:27pm On Oct 21, 2024
FARA4GA:
Hmm....the truth is no side wins in a war ...both loss of lives and messing up the minds of those who witnessed the murder and mayhem, death and destruction ....

I know many of us have been programmed to believe Hamas as the villains.... But remember that Hamas is to Palestinians as ANC is to South Africa ...

Yes, the same ANC that is the ruling party in South Africa was once a resistance REBEL group...

Mandela was termed a Terrorist...even when he had become South Africa's president....

Unfortunately, Hamas is Muslim....so, it's now being termed as religious fanatics, but they are only fighting for their ancestral homes ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfHyBC7wkLY
It's not their ancestral home. The Land of Israel was taken from the Cannanites in the days of Joshua, the next leader to Moses.

The muslims believe David, Solomon, etc were true prophets of God. These people ruled Israel in this Promised land which God gave them.

The Islamic brought now only denies the divinity, death and resurrection of Jesus and but also makes Israel it's arch-enemy that must be defeated in the endtimes.
Islamic prophecies.
The Jewish hatred is rooted in Islam.
And so it is an obligation for Muslims to hate Israel.

And their media groups have become powerful, influencing the world against Israel. But it is going exactly according to Bible prophecies which is The Armageddon.
When Jesus comes with his armies (Christians) to save Israel from annihilation by the nations united with one mind.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 5:41pm On Oct 21, 2024
J3susFr3ak:
Translation: The Bible that both Jews and Christians believe in to have core Historical validity backed by Archaeology is a LIE. Why? Because Krismas and the whole of Islam says so.

For thousands of years Jews in North Africa and other parts of the Middle East lived with Muslims and had to flee for their lives to reside in Israel after 1948....suddenly those Jews are also "not Jews". Why? Because Krismas says so.

DNA evidence that connects both European Ashkenazik to N. AFrican/ Middle East Shephardic Jews to one common Ancestry with unique genetic traits and markers should be thrown out the window. Why? Because Krismas says so.

You do have a long way to go friend.
grin Once again, u embark on hasty generalization?

1. Why don’t u attach any archeological evidence, that AUTHENTICATE THE HISTORICITY OF THE BIBLE?
The Bible is FICTIONAL. It’s nothing but religious delusion. e.g the gospels in the KJV originally had no known authors. But people called those books Matthew mark Luke and John. So u know the Bible is the fable manipulation of man.

2 Jews in North Africa are Shephardic, who migrated to those places from Western Europe, mostly Spain and they lived comfortably in northern part of Africa until the Zionists forced most of them to flee to the false state of Israel. Cos how can u explain Jews who have lived in a place for hundreds of yrs suddenly had to go to a new place in the Middle East?

3. Ur confusion is on the word Jews.
They are Europeans and not from the Middle East. They are not the people of the Biblical land of Palestine. There was nothing like Jew in the first KJV of 1611. The Bible was burglarized to insert the word Jews into it by the Zionist cults. DNA of Jews show them out clearly as Europeans. That’s why DNA testing requires court approval b4 its carried out in Israel. Jews only came into Palestine in 1800s for first time
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Kukutente23: 6:27pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
Indeed Israel has been making stupid claims, something like, the most moral army in the world. Whereas the UN has designated them as risk to children. No claim of Israel, including owning the land 2000yrs ago holds up to scrutiny. It’s all lies no serious scholar or politician support. There has never been Israel in Palestine. If u ask them where all the people of Israel went, they will tell u, they are the 11 lost tribes! No trace. Then they will tell u Romans expelled all Jews from Judaea and named the place Palestine.
Complete bullshit from rubbish Jews who are ethnically Europeans!
As for Russia. I know about the theater incident in 2002 involving the Chechen militants. But Russia didn’t bomb the place as u claimed, they stormed it and killed a lot of civilians. Which is stupid! Russia is the one of least example u should advance. Cos they are number one in killing their own people. Do u know how many Russians, Russia killed in WW2?
Even now in Kursk, u won’t believe how Russia is bombing their own territory!
Religion has no context in the war in Gaza. It is resistance against a brutal settler colonialists running a death cult.
So what claim does Palestinians have to the place? How did the Temple mount in Jerusalem come to be there? If you say there are no Jews who ever inhabited the area then who are the Jews that were taken captive to Europe by the Romans and where were they inhabiting before then? How can you have Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc etc all places that existed and you claim Israel never existed?
You're now making another excuse when I gave you an example of Russia. Iran in a bid to bomb a US base ended up bombing a civilian plane filled with its citizens in 2020. How about that?
Religion has context in the Gaza war. It is not for nothing that most Arab nations have always been against Israel until recently. Majority of those supporting Palestine are the Muslims. Their book tells them to hate and kill Jews. It's written there in black and white. So don't bury your head in the sand forming moralist.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Olufemiolaolu(m): 8:14pm On Oct 21, 2024
So saddening
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by zumbigbo(m): 8:56pm On Oct 21, 2024
Very sad. Old men making decisions to kill young ppl.

Netanyahu, Biden, macron, hamas, all the same bunch of murderers.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by johnayo01: 9:32pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
shocked U completely wrong
Oct7, why don’t you say IDF used dead Israeli civilians as human shield? U say Hamas killed civilians in Israel. Yet in Gaza u say Hamas is using Palestinians as human shields? Complete lies. It just an IDF excuse to slaughter innocent people. Zionists say in Gaza, there are no innocents! They say even a baby can be killed and IDF snipers shoot children in the twice to make it clear, the act was no mistake.
You are a partaker in genocide by ur rubbish parroting of Zionist narratives.
Hamas is fighting for their homeland against the most brutal settler colonialists ever known to man. And Hamas will prevail. Israel better recognize the right of Palestinians to have their state or lose everything they now have. The choice is theirs and times running out!
If boko haram attack me, I will blame my government first, who are responsible for the safety of life and property of Nigerians before I put a single blame on boko haram.

The attack on Israel on the Oct 7th was 100% Israel's fault. So many shady circumstances.

And by extension, same can be said about Palestine casualties as well.

The early we start holding the appropriate quarters responsible, the faster this conflict will be resolved.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by k4kenny(f): 9:36pm On Oct 21, 2024
GBTYO:
Over 50 survivors of the attack have so far been suicided.

You know why?

Because these are the guys who refused to back down and went to town telling people that IDF soldiers and helicopter gunships shot at the concert.

The IDF killed most of their own people on Oct 7 and most of the survivors know this .

I know Jews are chicken hearted but how can 50 survivors commit suicide within a year of Oct 7.

Does not make sense until you know that they didn't commit suicide but were murdered by IDF.

Israel knew before hand that the attack will happen and they let it happen and when it was going on, IDF and Mossad goons fired on their own to max the casualties so as to enrage the Israeli public to accept total war on Gaza.

It was a pyschop.

Edit:

I see 0koro judases mentioning me and spewing trash.

The Mossad that has been suiciding these survivors has as their motto the pic related below
Exactly what I've been saying, but e be like someone has used juju on Nigerian christians, I've never seen this level of brainwashing.

And yes, suicide will be rampant in Israhell. These young people are being used by western imperialists to fulfil their selfish political gains.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 9:45pm On Oct 21, 2024
johnayo01:
If boko haram attack me, I will blame my government first, who are responsible for the safety of life and property of Nigerians before I put a single blame on boko haram.

The attack on Israel on the Oct 7th was 100% Israel's fault. So many shady circumstances.

And by extension, same can be said about Palestine casualties as well.

The early we start holding the appropriate quarters responsible, the faster this conflict will be resolved.
U incorrect. In dat, war has rules. That Israel conducts its wars with reckless impunity regardless. Israel believes it will never be held to account. But the day may come wen all its political leaders will stand trial like Nazis and Khmer Rouge. As for Oct7, Israel prevented an independent investigation into the incident. What people know about the event, is what Israel is parroting in MSM. And no man should be allowed to be judge, jury, executioner, complainant and IPO in their own case. Oct7 narrative is Complete sham
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by johnayo01: 9:55pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
shocked U completely wrong
Zionists say in Gaza, there are no innocents! They say even a baby can be killed and IDF snipers shoot children in the twice to make it clear, the act was no mistake.

I'm curious to know what Muslims, HAMAS and the people Palestine think of Israeli and the Jews.

You are a partaker in genocide by ur rubbish parroting of Zionist narratives.
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I wonder who's narrative you are pushing and I hope it helps you stop the killing of those children or push them to their death
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Namigotalktru: 9:57pm On Oct 21, 2024
atiku4President:
I guess the pro Hamas members of nairaland will rejoice over this news.
Why? She died because of the lies her people wanted her to tell of her experiences.

That’s how they have been killing themselves including the soldiers

She killed herself because they used her name to murder 40,000 children.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by johnayo01: 10:00pm On Oct 21, 2024
Krismas:
U incorrect. In dat, war has rules. That Israel conducts its wars with reckless impunity regardless. Israel believes it will never be held to account. But the day may come wen all its political leaders will stand trial like Nazis and Khmer Rouge. As for Oct7, Israel prevented an independent investigation into the incident. What people know about the event, is what Israel is parroting in MSM. And no man should be allowed to be judge, jury, executioner, complainant and IPO in their own case. Oct7 narrative is Complete sham
Bro you claim to know everything about Oct 7, but it skipped you that HAMAS actually posted the clip on its website first.

You trying to even justify HAMAS action is making me sick already.

Good luck with your pursuit of justice.
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 10:19pm On Oct 21, 2024
Kukutente23:
So what claim does Palestinians have to the place? How did the Temple mount in Jerusalem come to be there? If you say there are no Jews who ever inhabited the area then who are the Jews that were taken captive to Europe by the Romans and where were they inhabiting before then? How can you have Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc etc all places that existed and you claim Israel never existed?
You're now making another excuse when I gave you an example of Russia. Iran in a bid to bomb a US base ended up bombing a civilian plane filled with its citizens in 2020. How about that?
Religion has context in the Gaza war. It is not for nothing that most Arab nations have always been against Israel until recently. Majority of those supporting Palestine are the Muslims. Their book tells them to hate and kill Jews. It's written there in black and white. So don't bury your head in the sand forming moralist.
1. The place has been Palestine since 2,600yrs ago. Historians like Herodotus wrote about it, Shakespeare wrote about Palestine and several important ancient authors. Palestine has featured on all world maps since 2000yrs ago. Israel on the other hand is completely obscure. Only dubious religious books and maps talk about Israel.

2. Temple Mount was built by the Arab colonial masters of Palestine. And Muslims claim their prophet ascended to heaven from Temple Mount. Which I truly don’t believe or care much about. What is important though is fact dat Temple Mount is Palestinian property. Jewish claim that Temple Mount is the former site of Solomon Temple are LIARS. Solomon never existed, talkless of Solomon’s temple. Even the so called western wall/wailing wall, within the Al Aqsa, which the Jews claim is somehow connected to Herod’s temple has been rubbished by many Jewish scholars, who claim Herod’s temple wasn’t even located at that place AT ALL.

3. I have offered $500 USD severally on this platform to anyone who can prove Romans sent Jews out of Palestine to Europe. Nobody has responded. Maybe u should respond? Romans did not expel Jews from Palestine. Wen Romans were in Palestine, there were no Jews in the place. Jordan is a river, it Britain that created the state of Jordan. Jordan is therefore a fake country.
As for Syria and Lebanon, I believe strongly that those countries remain good examples to show ancient countries just don’t disappear into thin air. If there was Israel in that place, where is it? Why has it disappeared into thin air?

4. Ur examples are unimpressive. U cannot justify killing ur own people! It’s rubbish
Whether it’s Russia who did it or Iran. As for iran, the airplane incident is an accident, so I don’t understand why people always talk about it as though big nations don’t make plenty aviation errors?

5 when Israel was created, religion was never the issue. Many of the religious parties of today in the Knesset were bound from politics back in the days for incompetence. And anyone with eyes can truly see, how damaging this religious demagogue are to the stability and safety of the state of Israel
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 10:36pm On Oct 21, 2024
johnayo01:
Bro you claim to know everything about Oct 7, but it skipped you that HAMAS actually posted the clip on its website first.

You trying to even justify HAMAS action is making me sick already.

Good luck with your pursuit of justice.
Hamas posted what exactly on their website?? Beheaded babies or serial rape? Or incinerating babies in an oven? Or cutting off the breast of women and playing football with it? Or cutting open a pregnant woman and beheading the fetus? Or what?
These were all the LIES Israel spread about Hamas which even Israelis living in the kibbutzs where they claimed it happened REJECTED the stories as events that didn’t happen in their kibbutz.
Look at the way Israel is conducting its war! Targeting civilians with impunity, whereas those who NL Zionist lickspittles call terrorists only target military sites and military personnels. Yet they still believe all the foolish lies of Israel that Hamas killed civilians Oct7? Mumus!
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by Krismas(m): 10:52pm On Oct 21, 2024
johnayo01:
I wonder who's narrative you are pushing and I hope it helps you stop the killing of those children or push them to their death
Israel kills civilians as a military accomplishment. So, I expect many more dead civilians. Civilian lives must not be used as a bargaining chip like America and Israel is doing! Civilians are dying and hungry, so Hamas should take the CURSED deal on the table! An argument that is so damning as to be satanic. Which show how sick Israel and its allies are.
Yet, killing all the babies of Palestine cannot bring Israel the victory it seeks or the security it needs. Israel is finished!
Re: Shirel Golan Dies By Suicide On 22nd Birthday. by johnayo01: 6:19am On Oct 22, 2024
Krismas:
Israel kills civilians as a military accomplishment. So, I expect many more dead civilians. Civilian lives must not be used as a bargaining chip like America and Israel is doing! Civilians are dying and hungry, so Hamas should take the CURSED deal on the table! An argument that is so damning as to be satanic. Which show how sick Israel and its allies are.
Yet, killing all the babies of Palestine cannot bring Israel the victory it seeks or the security it needs. Israel is finished!
Bro, heaven knows I have tried my best.

The only thing that will make us agree with each other is if I curse Israel. But what you are doing is selective blindness.

In a war that is almost 75yrs old, the only guilty party to you is Israel.

It is funny how Muslims that believes the Qur'an is the word of Allah, choose to do their selective ignorance and call the Jews who are mentioned in their Qur'an as occupiers.

This is a challenge to you, the holy books of the 3 major religion in the world can also double as an history book. "Show us any evidence that Palestine ever had that land and called it their home"
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