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obedience4:
Oga I ask you a question, you asked who started the killings, who rejected the first two state solution proposed by the UN?? This is the basis of the whole issue in Palestine today, who rejected the first offer of a two state solution??

Who started the armed conflict that has generated to the war will have today?? Who gathered themselves together and attacked the Jewish nation after the UN resolution created the Jewish state??

I don't know what am saying yet you can't answer

Enjoy your day, done talking to you

obedience4:
Who started the killings??, the two state solution that many are clamouring for which side first rejected the two state solution?? When the UN resolution passed creating the Jewish state Who gathered themselves to wage war against the newly created Jewish state which triggered the first Israeli- arab war??

Like I said there's no need for us going back and forth, let Hamas keep it's insurgency/freedom fighting going, let's see how far it will bring about the Palestinian agitation to reality.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
What's wrong❌ with South Korea🇰🇷? What are they smoking🚬??
I mean you have multiple US military bases in your country yet you're crying about North Korean soldiers going to Russia to acquire training. E be like say to dey produce Korean movie drama series don tire dem

IMEI:
Hamas doesn't use suicide bombings anymore, they disavowed its use several decades ago

Even now in Gaza, there's been no report of its use in battle...try again later. Personally for me even if they did use it, it'd be inconsequential

Just off the top of my head, let me outline differences between Hamas and ISIS/Boko haram:

1. Hamas is a registered organization in Palestine with multiple wings that serve different purposes i.e. it has a charity wing, women's wing, political wing, military wing, educational wing, student wing etc. Boko and ISIS reject being a part of modern systems and society

2. Hamas believes in political participation and democracy. They came to power through the vote, Boko and ISIS reject democracy

3. Hamas is a national movement, its fight is limited to Palestine. Boko and ISIS don't even acknowledge the existence of borders

4. Membership of Hamas is voluntary, as for Boko and ISIS, rejection of them even by Muslims is a death sentence

5. Hamas has legitimacy and International recognition from many Governments of the world. Boko and ISIS do not

6. Hamas is an integral part of Palestine, it's homegrown, born out of the struggle and it's members are all Palestinians and that's why it'll never be erased. Boko and ISIS don't have the backing of locals, contain a lot of foreigners in their ranks and locals actively help in fighting them

7. Hamas believes in negotiations and collaborations with parties of different ideologies e.g. attempts to form a government of national unity in Palestine, negotiations with Israelis etc. Boko and ISIS do not tolerate differing ideologies anywhere they are

8. Hamas believes alot in Western education. Gaza's literacy rate before the war was at 98%, one of the highest in the world and it was known for having many schools. Many members of Hamas are very highly educated. Boko haram and ISIS are very anti-west, especially Boko haram (even their given name indicates that)

9. Hamas tolerates opposition existing within it's areas of control. There are different groups in Gaza with different visions of what a free Palestine would look like, which differ with Hamas' vision. Many of those groups today have put their differences aside and are fighting against Israel together. Boko and ISIS notoriously do not accept any form of dissent

10. Hamas is open to change. Hamas has changed its position from complete destruction of Israel, to recognizing Israel side by side with a Palestinian State along the 1967 borders. Hamas revised its Charter in 2017 to reflect this new position. Boko and ISIS do not bend their views

There are many more, but these are a few off the top of my head

IMEI:
Hamas doesn't use suicide bombings anymore, they disavowed its use several decades ago

Even now in Gaza, there's been no report of its use in battle...try again later. Personally for me even if they did use it, it'd make no difference

Just off the top of my head, let me outline differences between Hamas and ISIS/Boko haram:

1. Hamas is a registered organization in Palestine with multiple wings that serve different purposes i.e. it has a charity wing, women's wing, political wing, military wing, educational wing, student wing etc. Boko and ISIS reject being a part of modern systems and society

2. Hamas believes in political participation and democracy. They came to power through the vote, Boko and ISIS reject democracy

3. Hamas is a national movement, its fight is limited to Palestine. Boko and ISIS don't even acknowledge the existence of borders

4. Membership of Hamas is voluntary, as for Boko and ISIS, rejection of them even by Muslims is a death sentence

5. Hamas has legitimacy and International recognition from many Governments of the world. Boko and ISIS do not

6. Hamas is an integral part of Palestine, it's homegrown, born out of the struggle and it's members are all Palestinians and that's why it'll never be erased. Boko and ISIS don't have the backing of locals, contain a lot of foreigners in their ranks and locals actively help in fighting them

7. Hamas believes in negotiations and collaborations with parties of different ideologies e.g. attempts to form a government of national unity in Palestine, negotiations with Israelis etc. Boko and ISIS do not tolerate differing ideologies anywhere they are

8. Hamas believes alot in Western education. Gaza's literacy rate before the war was at 98%, one of the highest in the world and it was known for having many schools. Many members of Hamas are very highly educated. Boko haram and ISIS are very anti-west, especially Boko haram (even their given name indicates that)

9. Hamas tolerates opposition existing within it's areas of control. There are different groups in Gaza with different visions of what a free Palestine would look like, which differ with Hamas' vision. Many of those groups today have put their differences aside and are fighting against Israel together. Boko and ISIS notoriously do not accept any form of dissent

10. Hamas is open to change. Hamas has changed its position from complete destruction of Israel, to recognizing Israel side by side with a Palestinian State along the 1967 borders. Hamas revised its Charter in 2017 to reflect this new position. Boko and ISIS do not bend their views

There are many more, but these are a few off the top of my head

Ska333ko:
The funeral of the terrorist Colonel Ihsan Daqsa, commander of the elite 401st Armored Brigade, took place after he was eliminated by the resistance in Jabalia.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

⚡️Hezb-Allah publishes footage of them targeting of a gathering of Israeli soldiers near the Ramya site on the southern Lebanese border pic.twitter.com/mpzPNv2xPe

— War Monitor (@WarMonitors) October 21, 2024

IMEI:
Hamas doesn't use suicide bombings anymore, they disavowed its use several decades ago

Even now in Gaza, there's been no report of its use in battle...try again later. Personally for me even if they did use it, it'd be inconsequential

Just off the top of my head, let me outline differences between Hamas and ISIS/Boko haram:

1. Hamas is a registered organization in Palestine with multiple wings that serve different purposes i.e. it has a charity wing, women's wing, political wing, military wing, educational wing, student wing etc. Boko and ISIS reject being a part of modern systems and society

2. Hamas believes in political participation and democracy. They came to power through the vote, Boko and ISIS reject democracy

3. Hamas is a national movement, its fight is limited to Palestine. Boko and ISIS don't even acknowledge the existence of borders

4. Membership of Hamas is voluntary, as for Boko and ISIS, rejection of them even by Muslims is a death sentence

5. Hamas has legitimacy and International recognition from many Governments of the world. Boko and ISIS do not

6. Hamas is an integral part of Palestine, it's homegrown, born out of the struggle and it's members are all Palestinians and that's why it'll never be erased. Boko and ISIS don't have the backing of locals, contain a lot of foreigners in their ranks and locals actively help in fighting them

7. Hamas believes in negotiations and collaborations with parties of different ideologies e.g. attempts to form a government of national unity in Palestine, negotiations with Israelis etc. Boko and ISIS do not tolerate differing ideologies anywhere they are

8. Hamas believes alot in Western education. Gaza's literacy rate before the war was at 98%, one of the highest in the world and it was known for having many schools. Many members of Hamas are very highly educated. Boko haram and ISIS are very anti-west, especially Boko haram (even their given name indicates that)

9. Hamas tolerates opposition existing within it's areas of control. There are different groups in Gaza with different visions of what a free Palestine would look like, which differ with Hamas' vision. Many of those groups today have put their differences aside and are fighting against Israel together. Boko and ISIS notoriously do not accept any form of dissent

10. Hamas is open to change. Hamas has changed its position from complete destruction of Israel, to recognizing Israel side by side with a Palestinian State along the 1967 borders. Hamas revised its Charter in 2017 to reflect this new position. Boko and ISIS do not bend their views

There are many more, but these are a few off the top of my head

dermmy:
Even if Hamas uses suicide bombing that doesn't make Hamas a terrorist organisation here is why. It's just our mind set. Let's say suicide bombing does not exist in the world and they only use guns and other means what will people call them? Guns take lives too. Remember suicide bombing is not the only means terrorists use they use guns too.

What differentiates a Liberation movement from a terrorist organisation is their objectives and goals regardless of how both carry out their attacks

Hamas is fighting for a just cause which is the liberation and freedom of its people from oppression whilst Boko Haram, ISIS fight for unrealistic and barbaric idelogies that they want to impose on the society.

oga obedience4 this is for you.

IMEI:
Hamas doesn't use suicide bombings anymore, they disavowed its use several decades ago

Even now in Gaza, there's been no report of its use in battle...try again later. Personally for me even if they did use it, it'd be inconsequential

Just off the top of my head, let me outline differences between Hamas and ISIS/Boko haram:

1. Hamas is a registered organization in Palestine with multiple wings that serve different purposes i.e. it has a charity wing, women's wing, political wing, military wing, educational wing, student wing etc. Boko and ISIS reject being a part of modern systems and society

2. Hamas believes in political participation and democracy. They came to power through the vote, Boko and ISIS reject democracy

3. Hamas is a national movement, its fight is limited to Palestine. Boko and ISIS don't even acknowledge the existence of borders

4. Membership of Hamas is voluntary, as for Boko and ISIS, rejection of them even by Muslims is a death sentence

5. Hamas has legitimacy and International recognition from many Governments of the world. Boko and ISIS do not

6. Hamas is an integral part of Palestine, it's homegrown, born out of the struggle and it's members are all Palestinians and that's why it'll never be erased. Boko and ISIS don't have the backing of locals, contain a lot of foreigners in their ranks and locals actively help in fighting them

7. Hamas believes in negotiations and collaborations with parties of different ideologies e.g. attempts to form a government of national unity in Palestine, negotiations with Israelis etc. Boko and ISIS do not tolerate differing ideologies anywhere they are

8. Hamas believes alot in Western education. Gaza's literacy rate before the war was at 98%, one of the highest in the world and it was known for having many schools. Many members of Hamas are very highly educated. Boko haram and ISIS are very anti-west, especially Boko haram (even their given name indicates that)

9. Hamas tolerates opposition existing within it's areas of control. There are different groups in Gaza with different visions of what a free Palestine would look like, which differ with Hamas' vision. Many of those groups today have put their differences aside and are fighting against Israel together. Boko and ISIS notoriously do not accept any form of dissent

10. Hamas is open to change. Hamas has changed its position from complete destruction of Israel, to recognizing Israel side by side with a Palestinian State along the 1967 borders. Hamas revised its Charter in 2017 to reflect this new position. Boko and ISIS do not bend their views

There are many more, but these are a few off the top of my head

obedience4:
All you wrote are rubbish, so if a terror group decides to have an education wing, that's makes it not a terror group??

Ooh they stopped suicide bombings, but they can still kidnapped and kill civilians, we should be clap for Hamas for removing suicide bombings from its operations

Look at this one writing epistles to defend terrorism

Lawag3:
What if the goal is the total destruction of a country that has every right to exist

dermmy:
Hamas is fighting for a just cause which is the liberation and freedom of its people from oppression whilst Boko Haram, ISIS fight for unrealistic and barbaric idelogies that they want to impose on the society.

oga obedience4 this is for you.

obedience4:
All you wrote are rubbish, so if a terror group decides to have an education wing, that's makes it not a terror group??

Ooh they stopped suicide bombings, but they can still kidnapped and kill civilians, we should be clap for Hamas for removing suicide bombings from its operations

Look at this one writing epistles to defend terrorism

IMEI:
Instead of you to admit you stated a lot of lies you're yapping nonsense

Lawag3:
What if the goal is the total destruction of a country that has every right to exist

Mille:
He knows na. But as an employed agent, he has to regurgitate the agendas of his employers whether he likes it or not. It's all about the money.

The IRA bombed anything bombable in the UK. From car bombs to train stations to Scotland Yard to the London Underground to the BBC. Now they have an independent Republic of Ireland.

During their hey days, we also have stupid people who tried to smear them with the term of terrorists. Palestine will be free and independent, and we will remember foolish people who compared Hamas to Boko Haram.

obedience4:
Do this clowns even have a brain, I told that boy to look up the ideologies and manifestos of Hamas, the whole objective of Hamas is the destruction of the Jewish state. And this one is talking about liberation??

dermmy:
You and obedience4 are the ones who need mental evaluation. A Jewish professor of History from the University of Haifa known as Ilan Pappe has been crying out for years and has written a lot about the lie behind the fraud nation called Israel he is one of the few Israeli intelligenstias speaking the truth he was receiving death threats from Mossad and Shin-Bet that was why he left Israel and relocated to the UK here to continue his lecturing.

He has written a lot on the Israeli-Palestine issue.

The ethnic cleansing of Palestine
Gaza in Crisis
The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Occupied Territories
The Forgotten Palestinians
The Idea of Israel
Ten Myths About Israel
Israel and South Africa: The Many Faces of Apartheid
A History of Modern Palestine
Lobbying For Zionism on Both sides of the Atlantic

He is a professor of international repute if he keeps exposing the lies and evils of his country then your opinion as a Nigerian who is an ignoramus does not matter. Go and read all those books and come back to engage me. Watch his interviews and lectures online then may be you'll be able to cure your ignorance by an Israel intelligestia who tells the blunt truth.

Mille:
You and all these your half-truths, Lord twister.

While the destruction of Israel was in its 1988 mainfesto, it is not the whole objective. And besides the destruction on Israel in it's manifestos have been dropped as far back as 2006.

"The updated manifesto of 2017 accepted the idea of a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, i.e. comprising the West Bank and Gaza strip only, on the condition that the Palestinian refugees were allowed to return to their homes".

Lord twister, over to you

Lawag3:
So why did Oct 7th happen why were so many people killed in a day. Why were hundreds of people kidnapped. Why did Hamas threaten to repeat Oct 7th again and again.

sainttwist1:
bro what is my own problem with a Jewish prof......his way of life, his choice. I know know you want to sound intelligent but you said terrorism and freedom fighting is the same thing, that is dangerous for people of different religions living around you bro.

sainttwist1:
bro what is my own problem with a Jewish prof......his way of life, his choice. I know know you want to sound intelligent but you said terrorism and freedom fighting is the same thing, that is dangerous for people of different religions living around you bro.

IMEI:
It's not just a Jewish prof, they include people from a wide range of society

Jewish voice for peace

Breaking the Silence (an organisation of ex-israeli soldiers)

Miko Peled ( ex-israeli soldiers)

Prof. Avi Shlaim

Prof.Norman Finkelstein

Gideon Levy, Akiva Eldar, Ori Goldberg ( Journalists)

Naturei Karta (Orthodox Jewish Organization)

B'tselem (Israeli human rights group)

And the list goes on and on