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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 7:55pm On Oct 22, 2024
FoolishBoy419:
And in your dumb little brain, that "a number of nations" who by the way, have absolutely no objections to Israel's 7-decade long apartheid see Hamas as a terrorist group automatically means they're terrorists? Prideless asskisers like you would still be seeing Nelson Mandela as a terrorist if your masters hadn't changed their views on him.
You are just as your moniker indicate a f...lish boy
Mandela was the leader of the party whose youth wing were committing hideous crimes against the government, attacking civilians. Thus he was tag a terrorist.

Everyone knows the ideology of the "person" Nelson Mandela, everyone knows who Nelson is and what he stands for not as the leader of a party whose youth wing were committing terror acts, but as a man of peace and honour, He was outspoken had good oratory skills, yet you won't find one speech of his inciting people to violence, he was committed to the Gandhi principles of non-violence struggle till the very end of his work to freedom.

Yet you clowns are putting sinwar a terrorist, a child killer, a mass murderer In the same sentence with Nelson shows how f.. lishly you clowns are. Yall must be suffering from brain disease.

Olodo
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:02pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
You are just as your moniker indicate a f...lish boy
Mandela was the leader of the party whose youth wing were committing hideous crimes against the government, attacking civilians. Thus he was tag a terrorist.

Everyone knows the ideology of the "person" Nelson Mandela, everyone knows who Nelson his and what he stands for not as the leader of a party whose youth wing were committing terror acts, but as a man of peace and honour, He was outspoken had good oratory skills, yet you won't find one speech of his inciting people to violence, he was committed to the Gandhi principles of non-violence struggle till the very end of his work to freedom.

You clowns putting sinwar a terrorist, a child killer, a mass murderer In the same sentence with Nelson shows how f.. lishly you clowns are. Yall must be suffering from brain disease.

Olodo
Mandela founded Umkhonto we sizwe, the paramilitary arm of the ANC, which engaged in guerilla warfare against the apartheid Government

Despite his incarceration, Mandela refused to denounce the violence of the ANC

The way many of you, confident in your ignorance, turn history on its head is alarming
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 8:06pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
You are just as your moniker indicate a f...lish boy
Mandela was the leader of the party whose youth wing were committing hideous crimes against the government, attacking civilians. Thus he was tag a terrorist.

Everyone knows the ideology of the "person" Nelson Mandela, everyone knows who Nelson is and what he stands for not as the leader of a party whose youth wing were committing terror acts, but as a man of peace and honour, He was outspoken had good oratory skills, yet you won't find one speech of his inciting people to violence, he was committed to the Gandhi principles of non-violence struggle till the very end of his work to freedom.

Yet you clowns are putting sinwar a terrorist, a child killer, a mass murderer In the same sentence with Nelson shows how f.. lishly you clowns are. Yall must be suffering from brain disease.

Olodo
I knew it. Just watch the way this witless prick is referring to a gang of white murderers oppressing Africans for fun as "the government." Let's go further, Algerians and Haitians were also terrorists for attacking "their government," don't you think? Brainless clown.


Why then was Nelson Mandela arrested and called a terrorist? You guys are sickeningly ignorant and dumb. Here's one of the many quotes of Nelson Mandela:

"Violence was the only weapon that would destroy apartheid. If I had my time over I would do the same again, so would any man who dares call himself a man."

Go ahead then, call him a terrorist like the asskissing lunatic that you are
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 8:22pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Who is this clown,?? The US calling Mandela a terrorist is that what we are talking about?? Show me any proof of Mandela inciting volience or Mandela killing civilians or kidnapping civilians like sinwar, Ode will just jumb into conversations like a f..l

We are talking about the US war against the British for independence, did the US kidnapped and kill British civilians during the war for independence?? Did ghandi kill and kidnap civilians for India to gain independence from Britain, how many British nationals were kidnapped before Nigeria got independence?

If you want independence through conflict/war take your war to the government, and not civilians the moment you start harming civilians you become a terrorist organisation which hamas is.

The ESN in the East, you can easily decode its ideologies they want to separate from Nigeria, you don't see them going around attacking non easterners and killing people all in the vein of wanting independence. they take the fight to the government
Not a terrorist group like hamas that goes around killing civilians, beheading children,raping girls all in the name of independence.

If you mention me again with nonsense, be like your brain no dey work
mumu,ode oshi
You to be arguing blindly

Firstly :civilian were killed by Mandela and his group
Secondly:The freedom was taken by violence through Mandela ( he incited violence)

USA kidnapped and killed civilians during the revolutionary war

Pls fact check it before replying to it ooooo
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 8:29pm On Oct 22, 2024
IMEI:
You do know Mandela's ANC had an armed wing right?

Malcolm x is widely revered as a hero of the civil rights movement and the US government that denounced him before, acknowledges him today

Not a single shot was fired in India? Google the Chapekar brothers, Anushilan Samiti (a revolutionary group), the 1946 mutiny of the Royal Indian Navy, the Chittagong armoury raid, the role of the Ghadar Party etc

The point is the founding fathers of America were considered terrorists by the prevalent power of the time
He doesn't ever bother making quick research before dropping bold, dumb claims on this page.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 8:36pm On Oct 22, 2024
IMEI:
Mandela founded Umkhonto we sizwe, the paramilitary arm of the ANC, which engaged in guerilla warfare against the apartheid Government

Despite his incarceration, Mandela refused to denounce the violence of the ANC

The way many of you, confident in your ignorance, turn history on its head is alarming
Comprehension seems to be the prevailing issue here,
The basis of this whole agurement is if Hamas is a terrorist group or not, and the bone of contention was hamas were killing and kidnapping civilians, yet wasn't a terror group emphasise on CIVILIANS


Like I pointed out before, there's no point did Mandela incite violence against civilians, All his anger was against the apartheid Government, not the white South Africans civilians in South Africa.

Go read up the manifestos of the group when flag off under Nelson, the group main role was to sabotage government facilities, and in the manifestos the groups stated they were only attacking hard targets not civilians, not civilians, the group wasn't created to attack and kill civilians. But against the apartheid Government.

The group will later derail after the imprisonment of Nelson and started attacking civilians

DID NELSON MANDELA AT ANY TIME APPROVED THE KILLINGS AND KIDNAPPING OF CIVILIANS LIKE SINWAR??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 8:37pm On Oct 22, 2024
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 8:37pm On Oct 22, 2024
Vic2023:
mumu,ode oshi
You to be arguing blindly

Firstly :civilian were killed by Mandela and his group
Secondly:The freedom was taken by violence through Mandela ( he incited violence)

USA kidnapped and killed civilians during the revolutionary war

Pls fact check it before replying to it ooooo
Show me proof that Mandela was behind the killings of civilians, Ode??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 8:41pm On Oct 22, 2024
FoolishBoy419:
I knew it. Just watch the way this witless prick is referring to a gang of white murderers oppressing Africans for fun as "the government." Let's go further, Algerians and Haitians were also terrorists for attacking "their government," don't you think? Brainless clown.


Why then was Nelson Mandela arrested and called a terrorist? You guys are sickeningly ignorant and dumb. Here's one of the many quotes of Nelson Mandela:

"Violence was the only weapon that would destroy apartheid. If I had my time over I would do the same again, so would any man who dares call himself a man."

Go ahead then, call him a terrorist like the asskissing lunatic that you are
Violence against who? The apartheid Government or civilians??

You no kuku well, show me any proof of Mandela inciting violence on civilians like your dead terrorist buddy sinwar??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 8:42pm On Oct 22, 2024
IMEI:
Mandela founded Umkhonto we sizwe, the paramilitary arm of the ANC, which engaged in guerilla warfare against the apartheid Government

Despite his incarceration, Mandela refused to denounce the violence of the ANC

The way many of you, confident in your ignorance, turn history on its head is alarming
It's so annoying. Left to that guy, even his forefathers that fought the British invaders here were terrorists.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 8:46pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Violence against who? The apartheid Government or civilians??

You no kuku well, show me any proof of Mandela inciting violence on civilians like your dead terrorist buddy sinwar??
He has shifted the goal post yet again. You repeatedly claimed that Mandela never engaged in an form of violence, and I proved you wrong. Here's more:

"We first broke the law in a way which avoided any recourse to violence; when this form was legislated against, and then the Government resorted to a show of force to crush opposition to its policies, only then did we decide to answer violence with violence. But the violence which we chose to adopt was not terrorism."

"Having said this, I must deal immediately and at some length with the question of violence.” “Sometimes 'violence is the only way of ensuring a hearing for moderation."


By the way, I challenge you to tell me what you think of the Haitian revolution. Don't dodge this question
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:46pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Comprehension seems to be the prevailing issue here,
The basis of this whole agurement is if Hamas is a terrorist group or not, and the bone of contention was hamas were killing and kidnapping civilians, yet wasn't a terror group emphasise on CIVILIANS??


Like I pointed out before, there's no point did Mandela incite violence against civilians, All his anger was against the apartheid Government, not the white South Africans.

Go read up the manifestos of the group when flag off under Nelson, the group main role was to sabotage government facilities, and in the manifestos the groups stated they were only attacking hard targets

The group will later derail after the imprisonment of Nelson and started attacking civilians

DID NELSON MANDELA AT ANY TIME APPROVED THE KILLINGS AND KIDNAPPING OF CIVILIANS LIKE SINWAR??
Hamas' fight is against the oppressive and Zionist State of israel and not against all Jews like it's founder Ahmad Yassin stated

You went from claiming Mandela was for non-violent struggle, to now saying something else...but apparently the problem is lack of comprehension on our part and not your rigmarole
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:48pm On Oct 22, 2024
FoolishBoy419:
It's so annoying. Left to that guy, even his forefathers that fought the British invaders here were terrorists.
He's here to carry out a job, not to debate the truth
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 8:51pm On Oct 22, 2024
IMEI:
Hamas' fight is against the oppressive and Zionist State of israel and not against all Jews like it's founder Ahmad Yassin stated

You went from claiming Mandela was for non-violent struggle, to now saying something else...but apparently the problem is lack of comprehension on our part and not your rigmarole
Why is Hamas attacking Jewish civilians??

The hundreds of Jewish civilians killed by Hamas are what now??


Nelson Mandela was for non violent struggle and I stand by that.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 8:56pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Comprehension seems to be the prevailing issue here,
The basis of this whole agurement is if Hamas is a terrorist group or not, and the bone of contention was hamas were killing and kidnapping civilians, yet wasn't a terror group emphasise on CIVILIANS


Like I pointed out before, there's no point did Mandela incite violence against civilians, All his anger was against the apartheid Government, not the white South Africans civilians in South Africa.

Go read up the manifestos of the group when flag off under Nelson, the group main role was to sabotage government facilities, and in the manifestos the groups stated they were only attacking hard targets not civilians, not civilians, the group wasn't created to attack and kill civilians. But against the apartheid Government.

The group will later derail after the imprisonment of Nelson and started attacking civilians

DID NELSON MANDELA AT ANY TIME APPROVED THE KILLINGS AND KIDNAPPING OF CIVILIANS LIKE SINWAR??
maybe Hamas learned from nelson Mandela

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:59pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Why is Hamas attacking Jewish civilians??

The hundreds of Jewish civilians killed by Hamas are what now??


Nelson Mandela was for non violent struggle and I stand by that.
Yes the leader of an armed guerilla fighting paramilitary group was a pacifist...that makes sense

More than 90% of Hamas casualties are military personnel and even some of the so called civilians are armed settlers who routinely kill or shoot at Palestinians

Your so called outrage at Hamas is laughable, considering that you believe all Palestinians murdered by israel are human shields

Rest abeg
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:00pm On Oct 22, 2024
FoolishBoy419:
He has shifted the goal post yet again. You repeatedly claimed that Mandela never engaged in an form of violence, and I proved you wrong. Here's more:

"We first broke the law in a way which avoided any recourse to violence; when this form was legislated against, and then the Government resorted to a show of force to crush opposition to its policies, only then did we decide to answer violence with violence. But the violence which we chose to adopt was not terrorism."

"Having said this, I must deal immediately and at some length with the question of violence.” “Sometimes 'violence is the only way of ensuring a hearing for moderation."


By the way, I challenge you to tell me what you think of the Haitian revolution. Don't dodge this question
Nelson was for non-violent struggle, and never incite violence against civilians. That's the basis of the agurement

Show me any proof of Nelson indicting Violence against civilians,

What do you to know about the Haitian revolution??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:04pm On Oct 22, 2024
FoolishBoy419:
He doesn't ever bother making quick research before dropping bold, dumb claims on this page.
Worse still, despite the glaring evidence, he still insists on it
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:07pm On Oct 22, 2024
IMEI:
Yes the leader of an armed guerilla fighting paramilitary group was a pacifist...that makes sense

More than 90% of Hamas casualties are military personnel and even some of the so called civilians are armed settlers who routinely kill or shoot at Palestinians

Your so called outrage at Hamas is laughable, considering that you believe all Palestinians murdered by israel are human shields

Rest abeg
This will be my last take, go read up the manifestos when the group was created, the group was created to sabotage government facilities, and not to cause civilians casualties, the group only became more belligerent when Nelson was in prison.

90% of Hamas casualties are military personnel, 🤣🤣🤣, so Hamas as a terror group is allowed to kill just 10% of civilians abi??

The IDF do not go with the intention of killing civilians,
Hamas on the other hand deliberately attack civilians
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 9:08pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Why is Hamas attacking Jewish civilians??

The hundreds of Jewish civilians killed by Hamas are what now??


Nelson Mandela was for non violent struggle and I stand by that.
😂😂😂😂😂

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 9:08pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
You are just as your moniker indicate a f...lish boy
Mandela was the leader of the party whose youth wing were committing hideous crimes against the government, attacking civilians. Thus he was tag a terrorist.

Everyone knows the ideology of the "person" Nelson Mandela, everyone knows who Nelson is and what he stands for not as the leader of a party whose youth wing were committing terror acts, but as a man of peace and honour, He was outspoken had good oratory skills, yet you won't find one speech of his inciting people to violence, he was committed to the Gandhi principles of non-violence struggle till the very end of his work to freedom.

Yet you clowns are putting sinwar a terrorist, a child killer, a mass murderer In the same sentence with Nelson shows how f.. lishly you clowns are. Yall must be suffering from brain disease.

Olodo
One question bro

Did the US label Nelson Mandela a terrorist ?

Bear in mind that Nelson Mandela is one of the most popular symbols of African Resistance.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:09pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Nelson was for non-violent struggle, and never incite violence against civilians. That's the basis of the agurement

Show me any proof of Nelson indicting Violence against civilians,

What do you to know about the Haitian revolution??
Nonviolent struggle means none use of violence in general, just like the path Mahatma Ghandi and King followed. Violence doesn't only apply to civilians. You claimed that Mandela never employed violence, and we'ved proved that as a blatant lie.

I have no way of proving that he directly targetted civilians, but the ANC did it and Mandela never condemned or expressed regret for it. That's all I can say.

It seems you don't know about it. Read about the Haitian revolution and come back to tell me whether you think what they did was terrorism or not. You should also tell me what you think about the French resistance against Nazi occupation.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:09pm On Oct 22, 2024
Vic2023:
maybe Hamas learned from nelson Mandela
In your Nelson Mandela quote, did you see where he refer to civilians?? Or the government??

Never did Nelson Mandela incite violence against civilians,
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:10pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
This will be my last take, go read up the manifestos when the group was created, the group was created to sabotage government facilities, and not to cause civilians casualties, the group only became more belligerent when Nelson was in prison.

90% of Hamas casualties are military personnel, 🤣🤣🤣, so Hamas as a terror group is allowed to kill just 10% of civilians abi??

The IDF do not go with the intention of killing civilians,
Hamas on the other hand deliberately attack civilians
Yes but they just so happen to routinely mass murder them
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:11pm On Oct 22, 2024
IMEI:
Worse still, despite the glaring evidence, he still insists on it
That's when you get when ignorance pairs with arrogance. The arrogance perpetually keeps him ignorant and shameless.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 9:12pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
Nelson was for non-violent struggle, and never incite violence against civilians. That's the basis of the agurement

Show me any proof of Nelson indicting Violence against civilians,

What do you to know about the Haitian revolution??
hope you understand what he means

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:15pm On Oct 22, 2024
FoolishBoy419:
Nonviolent struggle means none use of violence in general, just like the path Mahatma Ghandi and King followed. Violence doesn't only apply to civilians. You claimed that Mandela never employed violence, and we'ved proved that as a blatant lie.

I have no way of proving that he directly targetted civilians, but the ANC did it and Mandela never condemned or expressed regret for it. That's all I can say.

It seems you don't know about it. Read about the Haitian revolution and come back to tell me whether you think what they did was terrorism or not. You should also tell me what you think about the French resistance against Nazi occupation.
I have watched numerous Nelson videos he have never incite violence against civilians or civilian targets
Did the French resistance attack the German civilian population??

Did the French resistance go abouts kidnapping civilians and raping girls and beheading children.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:18pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
I have watched numerous Nelson videos he have never incite violence against civilians or civilian targets
Did the French resistance attack the German civilian population??

Did the French resistance go abouts kidnapping civilians and raping girls and beheading children.
Are we back to these outdated lies now? Even if they were true, Israel did much much worse, so we could argue that it was a retaliatory attack.

Now let's get back to the Haitian revolution.

By the way, are you aware that I can use your silly logic and dare you to give me proof of Sinwar directly killing civilians, right?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:19pm On Oct 22, 2024
usmanpogo:
One question bro

Did the US label Nelson Mandela a terrorist ?

Bear in mind that Nelson Mandela is one of the most popular symbols of African Resistance.
He was the leader of a party whose group carried attacks against the government, hence he was label a terrorist.

The question is these clowns are trying to compare a Nelson who never incite violence against civilians with a sinwar a child killer, a man who masterminded the killing of hundreds of civilians

Who makes such barbaric comparisim
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:19pm On Oct 22, 2024
Vic2023:
hope you understand what he means
I like what you're doing sir. Keep making him disgrace himself 😂😂😂
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:19pm On Oct 22, 2024
FoolishBoy419:
Are we back to these outdated lies now? Even if they were true, Israel did much much worse, so we could argue that it was a retaliatory attack.

Now let's get back to the Haitian revolution.

By the way, are you aware that I can use your silly logic and dare you to give me proof of Sinwar directly killing civilians, right?
Who mastermind the Oct 7 attacks ??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 9:20pm On Oct 22, 2024
Obedience40:
In your Nelson Mandela quote, did you see where he refer to civilians?? Or the government??

Never did Nelson Mandela incite violence against civilians,
the torn is already changing small small 😂😂😂
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