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Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Dearlord(m): 1:42pm On Oct 23, 2024
Obj just dey use his old grey hairy wrinkle balls dey catch cruise.

The earlier we know that no leaders has Nigerian at heart the better for your peace of mind
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 1:46pm On Oct 23, 2024
MrGerald:
What exceptional things did you people do than others? The only thing at play here is lack of support by others because of tribalism and fear of Igbo secession
How do you expect sane people to support a mediocre candidate above better proven options? You sincerely expect the North or muslins to fully support a person that says the election is a religious war and was gallivanting from church to church and asking Christians to take back their country? Election is about numbers, Mr. not emotions. A man with known tribal bias chose virtually all his state representatives and campaign heads from his region and you expect what exactly, embrace?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by wiseoneking: 1:48pm On Oct 23, 2024
helinues:
Bro in all honesty, how can a region who can't govern themselves right be trusted with Nigeria presidency? This continue forced sit at home every Monday is a good example. Some illiterate kids are giving orders about a must sit at home on Monday, the governors are also giving orders about a must open business and the citizens are what.....

Let the Igbo's put their house in order first, Jubril left ears , nose was just a pure waste of time which achieved nothing.
Lol. 😆 I laughed till I fell from my chair. You mean a region who can’t govern themselves? What region is ruling today? We are experiencing Nigerias worst nightmare. Thank God you know the region in charge. Nigeria will remain in their great CURSE until an Igbo man comes to deliver her. It will not be now or very soon. Igbo CURSE is working in Nigeria. I hope T pain will take the next 4 years to finnished you guys, then after that another eight years of Apshit.

But fortunately enough, Igbo towns and villages are the fasted developing places in Nigeria. Some regions with the exception of SS is like brownies . Some part of Nigeria have remained stagnant: people still live in shanties. Continue
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 1:54pm On Oct 23, 2024
Bigkoko:
Keep your bridges and alliances to your selves. A bridge is better when it connects two different countries with clear migration guidelines! I know how this is too much of a work to understand. You and your fellows wants bridges you can remove the pillar at elections no be so?

Keep your dilapidating bridges to your selves biko. The bridges we prefer is that connecting all Igboid villages, towns and cities together.
Chest beating as usual. Find out now, this one is probably in Lagos state doing business or being set up by someone in Lagos. Are you ready to get visas to Lagos?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by pandax: 2:00pm On Oct 23, 2024
chidiokay:
You talk as though there is one sensor that will automatically switch these businesses

Upon biafra ... what that means is all igbos must vacate Nigeria ( on obey b4 complain) ... but lets tell ourselves the truth how many igbos are truly ready to relocate and leave there businesses

i think igbos need to ask ghanians howfar, cos i see a very naive people basking on fantasies there ancestors planted in there heads. smh
you people think secession is like network port, you carry mtn sim nd just port to airtel same number within 24hrs o tii lor cheesy make una follow up on history, ask Ghanaians how it went
Nigeria has not recovered from Ghana Must Go till date!. You do not send people away with hate, the same mentality brought Zimbabwe to its knees as we speak
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by 00FFT00(m): 2:11pm On Oct 23, 2024
helinues:
Bro in all honesty, how can a region who can't govern themselves right be trusted with Nigeria presidency? This continue forced sit at home every Monday is a good example. Some illiterate kids are giving orders about a must sit at home on Monday, the governors are also giving orders about a must open business and the citizens are what.....

Let the Igbo's put their house in order first, Jubril left ears , nose was just a pure waste of time which achieved nothing.
The Igbo house is in order. I challenge you to get 1000 Yoruba people to gree and execute an agenda.

Feeble minds such as yours will never understand what Igbos have had to endure in their Nigeria story, and you will never understand how an Igbo mind works.

Rest assured they will always trump yours.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by sammiewrite(m): 2:16pm On Oct 23, 2024
If not that Nigeria is a country where privileged people say anything and get away with it. It is also a country where we build strong men as against strong institutions. Otherwise, OBJ should be in the DSS custody by now. Statements like this are capable of causing unrests especially considering current realities. But I get it, even if his statements actually lead to something unpleasant or undesirable, OBJ and the people who are supposed to make him accountable but will not, already have their passports and jets on standby. What a bunch of useless, self-serving leaders.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by LZAA: 2:18pm On Oct 23, 2024
Chekwume16:
Obasanjo is playing to the gallery. No one is denying igbo presidency. Last election was a clear example. A lot of us voted for obi not because he is an igbo like me but because we believed in him. Southerners were even the ones that betrayed him. Especially People like Wike. Secondly igbos need to know how to play politics. They are too hostile towards other regions. They don't believe in building bridges. Their arrogance will always deprive them of that exalted position.
A lot of who?
Did you vote for okwute??
The bolded is straight out of the Apcheat minion playbook so siddon dia
Minion😄
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by djon78(m): 2:29pm On Oct 23, 2024
Chekwume16:
Obasanjo is playing to the gallery. No one is denying igbo presidency. Last election was a clear example. A lot of us voted for obi not because he is an igbo like me but because we believed in him. Southerners were even the ones that betrayed him. Especially People like Wike. Secondly igbos need to know how to play politics. They are too hostile towards other regions. They don't believe in building bridges. Their arrogance will always deprive them of that exalted position.
But let me ask

North that had the president most
Are they better off than other parts?

Absolutely not

All so called issue about president coming from here is just a psychological game

Igbos to me should focus more on Development of there place

All those investments they have scattered all over Nigeria should be channeled home

Igbos should thrive to make there home enviable to other people
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by chidiokay: 2:43pm On Oct 23, 2024
pandax:
Nigeria has not recovered from Ghana Must Go till date!. You do not send people away with hate, the same mentality brought Zimbabwe to its knees as we speak
Interesting !! But how ??
Between Nigeria and Ghana who is better off today huh have you visited ghana at anytime is it more develop than Nigeria


Recover in what sense, between ghana and Nigeria who is in position to help who ...

People are asking for Biafra and you say we are sending them away ... did you misplace your number 6
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by MrGerald(m): 2:45pm On Oct 23, 2024
Image123:
How do you expect sane people to support a mediocre candidate above better proven options? You sincerely expect the North or muslins to fully support a person that says the election is a religious war and was gallivanting from church to church and asking Christians to take back their country? Election is about numbers, Mr. not emotions. A man with known tribal bias chose virtually all his state representatives and campaign heads from his region and you expect what exactly, embrace?
Than the man that selected his fellow Muslim, neglecting the mutual principle guiding the part because he want to please and dominate with his fellow Muslims abi?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Azazyel: 2:55pm On Oct 23, 2024
Chekwume16:
Obasanjo is playing to the gallery. No one is denying igbo presidency. Last election was a clear example. A lot of us voted for obi not because he is an igbo like me but because we believed in him. Southerners were even the ones that betrayed him. Especially People like Wike. Secondly igbos need to know how to play politics. They are too hostile towards other regions. They don't believe in building bridges. Their arrogance will always deprive them of that exalted position.
Very correct
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Everfrank(m): 3:09pm On Oct 23, 2024
All they need is to stop hating and playing the victim card. Hatred cannot be get love.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Mrexcell(m): 3:33pm On Oct 23, 2024
Bitter truth from obj empty criminal politicians who absolutely have nothing to offer has always relied on this igbo succession to cheat the igbos out of the presidency this old political game of theirs is gradually loosing it's potency cause most nigerians are now getting wiser.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Nico360: 3:34pm On Oct 23, 2024
stanluiz:
So the north have even attempted a secession and we don't see it in the media.

Lagos ibadan expresseway (LIE) media outlets decided not to talk about in order not to offend their masters in the north.

All they know is lie, propaganda and history revisionism.
It's not hidden, I no blame you sha has history was scrapped in our curriculum.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Mrexcell(m): 3:45pm On Oct 23, 2024
helinues:
Nobody is denying the Igbo's the presidency, they are not just playing their politics right

Build bridges, Dem say cement finish, okay now, let's see how they would get to the other side with ladder
What type of bridges has the igbos haven't built politically in nigeria? History has shown that they have voted for the north and west to occupy the presidency igbo politicians have been known to donate billions to support both the ruling party and the opposition parties yet u still want them to
continue building imaginary bridges we know politics is a dirty game but u people should at least have some conscience nah.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 3:47pm On Oct 23, 2024
MrGerald:
Than the man that selected his fellow Muslim, neglecting the mutual principle guiding the part because he want to please and dominate with his fellow Muslims abi?
You have to be joking right? You don't know simple political calculation/arithmetic? You expect him to be dull enough to pick a fellow southerner or a northern Christian in a game of numbers? Do you think elections are a church service or choir practice? Have they in any way put down Christians or Christianity since? Did they make or hint on any religious war? Be logical and reasonable please not emotional.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by joshkke(m): 3:57pm On Oct 23, 2024
illicit:
We are family


Violence must stop
Violence must indeed stop, but I'm not so sure we are a family. There're just too many real issues to iron out.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Bigkoko: 4:04pm On Oct 23, 2024
We dey get visa to teritories 6000km away, na Lagos Capital of Oduduwanistan republic naim go hard us? We go even fund 12 lane high way from our home country to una country if una ports dey more competitive than even our own home country.

We no dey fight economic war of attrition.... We are Igbos. After war na rebuilding.... That is why those people causing confusion in Se are all agents of Nigerian Deep state. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


Image123:
Chest beating as usual. Find out now, this one is probably in Lagos state doing business or being set up by someone in Lagos. Are you ready to get visas to Lagos?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by worksmart(m): 4:19pm On Oct 23, 2024
Obasanjo the man who did the most to destroy the prospects of Igbo presidency during his tenure.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 4:59pm On Oct 23, 2024
Bigkoko:
We dey get visa to teritories 6000km away, na Lagos Capital of Oduduwanistan republic naim go hard us? We go even fund 12 lane high way from our home country to una country if una ports dey more competitive than even our own home country.

We no dey fight economic war of attrition.... We are Igbos. After war na rebuilding.... That is why those people causing confusion in Se are all agents of Nigerian Deep state. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Yet another chest beating rant. Here's the simple question, Are you ready to get visas to Lagos? i didn't ask if you are able to afford visa. Your emptiness is nauseating.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Dshocker(m): 5:34pm On Oct 23, 2024
helinues:
Bro in all honesty, how can a region who can't govern themselves right be trusted with Nigeria presidency? This continue forced sit at home every Monday is a good example. Some illiterate kids are giving orders about a must sit at home on Monday, the governors are also giving orders about a must open business and the citizens are what.....

Let the Igbo's put their house in order first, Jubril left ears , nose was just a pure waste of time which achieved nothing.
Of all the geopolitical zones, which of them have the worst security on life and properties?

Illiteracy is a disease, you just open your mouth waaaa, because you have data.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by ofwest47(m): 5:45pm On Oct 23, 2024
Obasanro omo Kobo kobo from Anambra State police father, you are saying nonsense by saying your Ibo group were being denied Country's presidency.
It is unfortunate for you, going back to history __ December 12 1959 General election for Nigeria 🇳🇬 Independence.
Was it not Nnamdi Azikwe's NCNC that had the highest number of votes cast followed by Obafemi Awolowo A G and Tafawa Balewa of the NPC 3rd.
Recalled Awolowo say, Azikiwe go into alliance with Action Group with Nnamdi Azikiwe being swon in as the 1st Nigeria 🇳🇬 Prime minister. Did Zik not say No, that he preferred to be installed as deputy Prime minister with Tafawa Balewa the 3rd largest voter being becoming 1st Independent Prime minister of Nigeria even Recalled the intervention of Kwame Nkrumah the then Ghanaian PM asking Zik to agree with Awolowo's alliament proposal for him Zik with his level of education to be the 1st Nigeria 🇳🇬 P M. ; but Zik say No that the IBOs preferred to eat under the Balewa food table.
You also recalled in 1963 when Zik said he preferred to become a "A ceremonial President" under Tafawa Balewa Prime Ministership.
Then remember what brought about Nigeria 🇳🇬 _ Biafra war 1967 after Yakubu Gowon military administration created Cross River and River State from the then Eastern Region in line from 1954 Obafemi Awolowo proposals for the creation of CO R Region [ Calabar Ogoja Rivers Region before Independent] .
What brought about the killings of Wenike Briggs, and Lulu Briggs from River States Region the true ownerships of Bight of Biafra region by Ojukwu groups when the true 👍 ownership of Biafra regions say No to Ibo attempted creation of Biafra State.
So they say when the head is off it will be too late to cry.
So no IBO [I Before Others ≈courtesy of Zik] Presidential candidature is likely to be voted for again having say No to be sworn in as 1st Nigeria Prime minister at Independence in 1st October 1960.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 7:10pm On Oct 23, 2024
Brendaniel:
So the north have been electing credible people in their region abi or the south west has been electing credible people in their region too?

You talk of bridges, which region have the Igbos not voted into power before back to back?

Has the north or the south west done that for any Igbo man?

Which tribe in Nigeria is most traveled and settled and contribute to the community where they stay including learning the language of the people than the Igbos in Nigeria ?

What type of bridge are you talking about?

What exactly do you people want from the Igbos?

This is one major reason I want the country to break up because there is nothing an Igbo man does you people don't find fault in...
Nnamdi Azikiwe Is Why Biafra Has No Legal Right To Secede

The recent comments by Peter Obi labelling former Head of State, General Gowon, as an 'enemy' to be 'forgiven' has emboldened many of his closet IPOB supporters who now wear the tag Obidients (which in reality is the political arm of the Indigenous People of Biafra movement) to revise history and make fallacious and salacious claims.

One such claim was made by a certain Onyekwelu, who asserts that Biafra has a legal claim to secede and is being extrajudicially held back in Nigeria by domestic and international powers, especially the British government.

The idea for a secession clause was mooted by Chief Obafemi Awolowo in 1954 during the Lagos Constitutional Conference, but Nnamdi Azikiwe rejected it and galvanised a majority of the conference attendees to kill the idea.

Nnamdi Azikiwe himself wrote about this in an essay published by the New Nigerian Newspapers in 1975. It has since been republished by other papers and by Mr Azikiwe himself.

For the benefit of those who have been misled by the likes of Peter Obi and their fellow fantasists, I will now republish Mr. Nnamdi Azikiwe's essay.

'My opposition to secession

By Nnamdi Azikiwe

When the 1954 constitution conference started, my good friend, Chief Obafemi Awolowo tabled a motion to the effect that in the new constitution, provision should be made that any state which feels like seceding should do so. I was opposed to it and said ‘no’ and said that once we have a federation, we are indivisible and perpetual.

So a full day was given to Chief Awolowo to make his points. He spoke brilliantly as a lawyer. He made his points why secession should be incorporated in the Constitution. He cited the case of the Soviet Union which is a federation, and that secession is written there so that any state in the Soviet Union can secede at will. He also cited the case of Western Australia and eventually he finished his case and was applauded.

Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason.

We adjourned. The next day, I had to reply. I availed myself of the opportunity to, well, demolish the arguments of my friend and I cited the case of United States which based its constitution on that of the Swiss Confederation. That is Switzerland. I pointed out a case, I think, that of Texas versus White, where Mr. Salmon Chase, the Chief Justice laid down the principle – he was really an arbiter – that the union was intended to be perpetual and indivisible and that any attempt to divide the union by secession was treasonable.

The North (NPC) supported Action Group. The question was then: Should we have secession? The Colonial Office came to our rescue. You know, the usual principle of Britain – ‘divide and rule’ (laughs) but this time, it was in our favour. So, the colonial office backed us.

Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason and that was what led to this war, because Col. Ojukwu seceded and so violated the constitution."

Biafra would have had the legal right to secede if it had not been for Azikiwe.

Even before that conference, Mr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, in a speech he gave at a caucus meeting of the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons on Monday, May 12, 1953, threatened the Northern Region of a blockade and denial of access to the sea if they should attempt to secede from Nigeria.

His exact words were as follows:

"It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North by refusing it access to the sea"
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by MomohMrMoore: 7:15pm On Oct 23, 2024
Lol. this man is very funny. You were there two times. Why didnt you handover to Igbos once?
You think Nigerians have forgotten?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by hakeemhakeem(m): 7:20pm On Oct 23, 2024
greatermax77:
It's seems you are still learning Nigeria politics?
There's nothing like open contest
Presidency of Nigeria is by selection.
If it's open contest, tinubu wouldn't have been
There
Can you explain why tinubu shouldn't have been there
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by MrGerald(m): 7:29pm On Oct 23, 2024
Image123:
You have to be joking right? You don't know simple political calculation/arithmetic? You expect him to be dull enough to pick a fellow southerner or a northern Christian in a game of numbers? Do you think elections are a church service or choir practice? Have they in any way put down Christians or Christianity since? Did they make or hint on any religious war? Be logical and reasonable please not emotional.
It's simple understanding in a country like Nigeria, it's skewed logic by saying numbers, they should have done the right thing. Ok when they're planning for any you think they'll tell you?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by leokid866: 7:31pm On Oct 23, 2024
Tetrahedron:
I have maintained that Nzeogwu did the right thing in 1966 but maybe not executed with good precision enough, those that destroyed Nigeria were those that benefited from Nzeogwu’s coup.
People like:
Gowon
TY Danjuma
Northern Mafia etc
Why was Ironsi killed?? What benefits has the Mafia that took over Nigeria since then done for the countryhuh
Why was Adaka Boros men killed and Adaka Boro sentenced to death? Maybe if you answer that you will get answer to your question.....
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Callosobruchus(m): 7:31pm On Oct 23, 2024
Nobody has denied the Igbos presidency,all one Igbo man needs is to have a political spread across the 6 geopolitical zones in a popular political party in the country.Dazz all.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by leokid866: 7:32pm On Oct 23, 2024
stanluiz:
So the north have even attempted a secession and we don't see it in the media.

Lagos ibadan expresseway (LIE) media outlets decided not to talk about in order not to offend their masters in the north.

All they know is lie, propaganda and history revisionism.
no we leave the history revisionism to you guys....
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by hakeemhakeem(m): 7:33pm On Oct 23, 2024
pandax:
In 1999 was the contest for the Presidency an open field?. Clever by half!
The following were the names of pdp contest
OLUSEGUN OBASANJO
ALEX EKWUEME
DON ETIEBET
GRAHAM DOUGLAS
JIM NWOBODO
PHILIP ASIODU
FRANCIS ELLAH
Probably you can explain what open field
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by tinsel: 7:35pm On Oct 23, 2024
See who is speaking. He denied the igbos the presidency when Ekwueme had the best chance
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