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Ineptitude minister

I don't expect less😎
# useless govt of self serving THIEVES AND BLOODTHIRSTY TERRORISTS 💯💯

Salewa97:
Adelabu must have his reasons for whatever is going on. My opinion though

Oga El-Rufai was planning for the Power Ministry when conspiracy threw him out.
Just like Wike, the Power Cabals would have been feeling it. This Government is clueless, even worse compared to Buhari

Emu4life:
Adelabu should have been the First person thrown out of that FEC meeting but he seems close to the President.

I knew this Government is not a serious one when they ostracize El-Rufai from the administration

I am very sad about El-Rufai’s case.

As for Adekabu, the cabal in power is strong, only a strong man like Wike, El-Rufai can break that evil cult

Emu4life:
Oga El-Rufai was planning for the Power Ministry when conspiracy threw him out.
Just like Wike, the Power Cabals would have been feeling it. This Government is clueless, even worse compared to Buhari

Cry well well

Brushstrokes20:
I don't expect less😎
# useless govt of self serving THIEVES AND BLOODTHIRSTY TERRORISTS 💯💯

Cry well well

Which one be tinubu sledge hammer again😂, the one em use dey flog economy 😂

He is one of the best performers in the govt.
If national grid collapsed, is he the person working there?

Do T-Pain has any sledge hammer?

The problem with the power sector is the fact that the sector is not allowed full control over matters of pricing.

That has been the issue since 2013, and will remain the issue until the government and people of Nigeria face reality and realize that you get what you pay for.

Adelabuu will still go for sure. "We" will remove him.

Housing:
Electricity supply has improve massively, and the System Operator of the TCN is about to be given out to private professionals for efficiency, improvements and prevention of incessant grid collapse.

But Nigerians need to understand reasons for national grid collapse.

There are 26-grid connected power plants currently.

These power plants generate the power that the entire country uses, and it's synchronised and distributed across the country by the TCN.

TCN are the ones that handle the distribution of power by sending it to Discos.

TCN is a government owned entity that majorly operates in three (3) different departments.

1. Transmission Service Provider (TSP)
2. System Operator (SO)
3. Market Operator (MO)

- TSP are the ones in charge of maintaining the cables and towers that transmit the light.

- MO are the ones that handle market processes, rules, enforcement, finances, etc.

- SO are the ones in charge of maintaining and stabilising our national grid.

National grid is the interconnections of high transmission wires/cables across the country.

Grid frequency measures the demand and supply of electricity despatch to consumers from the Gencos.

Frequency meters are measured in hertz (Hz).

Based on the grid code, our normal frequency level is supposed to be 50Hz.

Example:
If the current power generation is 4000MWh and people are using all the 4000MWh, then supply is equal to demand, and frequency should be 50Hz.

This is a perfect condition that is highly unlikely.

If we are generating 4000MWh and People are using 3700Mwh, then obviously supply is higher than demand, and for that reason, the frequency will show you 51Hz.

If we are generating 4000MWh and people are trying to use 4200MWh, demand is higher than supply, and for that reason, the frequency will show 49Hz.

I know you will ask me how you can be generating 4000MWh and be trying to use 4200MWh😅😅

Take, for instance, your using I-pass-my-neighbour generator, and you're trying to connect 2HP A.C. with microwave on the generator😂

The generator will just automatically shut down.

That's how it happens, too, on the national grid.

Nigerian national grid is set to operate on a designated frequency level

Upper limit = 51.25Hz

Lower limit = 48.75Hz

The job of an S.O. is to make sure that the frequency movement is in between these 2 levels

Any significant deviation from these 2 levels, i.e., if it exceeds the threshold above or below it, such might trigger a national grid collapse.

A grid collapse is not like a collapse that something bad happens, no. The 26 grid connected generators will automatically shut down because of safety and security reasons.

In your houses, if you have a serious electrical fault, the circuit breaker will trip off to shut down the entire supply and protect everyone from potential injury or damages.

The demand for electricity is not static. For example, let's say you have 10 ACs in your house and other appliances.

In full capacity, your house is consuming 500Kwh, and average capacity can be 300Kwh or less.

Lets say in this hot weather, they only allocate 250Kwh to your house, and you're trying to use it in full capacity, if you switch on everything the demand will exceed the available supply you have and for that reason the light will automatically go off

These are all examples of how a demand is trying to exceed supply and how the system will protect itself.

On the flip side, when supply exceeds demand, the system will equally go off for safety reasons.

In Nigeria, supply does not always exceed demand unless there is an adverse event that occurs. I will explain.

In 2022, when TCN unions (NUEE) decide to go on strike, they just off the light abruptly without notice nor following the normal process, this trigger imbalance

Between the demand and supply.

They off the electricity around Abuja axis and co areas without the S.O. necessarily transferring the load somewhere. This resulted in higher supply, less demand because the generators are working, but nobody to pick load. It means

For E.g, there is 4000MWh being generated from GenCos. You went ahead to shut down almost 500MWh without channelling that MWh somewhere else. It becomes a redundant, and the system does not accept redundancy. For that reason, the entire power plants go off to protect itself

The frequency will be showing something more than 52Hz in some cases because supply is higher than demand.

This is why you will see that they will bring light now and take it off again.

The demand is not static, and as its changing, the S.O. will also be Making sure that the supply is reasonable enough to maintain frequency reading within the allowable limit.

TCN will ask a disco to take 200Mw, and within a short time, they will reduce that 200Mw to 190Mw depending on how generation and demand are behaving

This is all done to protect the grid and maintain balance.

If TCN asks Disco to reduce the MW, that's when you see discos taking light off, or maybe if there is a major repair.

Also, if there is a repair and a disco can not offtake power, then either the disco rechannel it Somewhere or the TCN will do it themselves.

What causes grid collapse is not a deflection of small MW in the generation pool. It has to be a major disruption that is SIGNIFICANT enough to create imbalance within short time, making it impossible for the S.O. to react immediately.

You have a generation pool of 4000MW, and a sudden problem occurs at the transmission line, which takes out almost 500MW off. This is significant enough to cause grid collapse.

Even that 500MW, it has to be so fast that the S.O. cannot react at the immediate point.

Disruption like 10MW, 20MW is not significant enough, and it's usually handled by the S.O. or even the disco

Other ways to maintain the grid without collapsing is to have the full and complete use of Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA).

This will make it easy for the S.O. to react faster and save the grid from collapsing.

Spinning reserve is also another option

But we do not have enough generation talkless of having a spinning reserve 😅😅

Reserve means a situation where demand is increasing, and you're matching up the demand by increasing supply immediately 😅

After grid collapses, the S.O. will immediately order the restoration or start off of power plants again. They usually call it black start.

They initiate the power plant and begin to give electricity to strategic discos gradually

It's a normal process, just like when your circuit breaker trips off, then you fix it and on your light again.

This is why the grid will collapse, and they will restart it before the news even go out. By the time its in the news, some people will be saying, but we have light😂

Need to also mention that some power plants are not connected to the grid, and there is partial collapse and system-wide collapse. These can also be the reason why someone from a far away remote location can be claiming to have light when the grid collapses.

Credit to Habu Sadiek for the in depth analysis.

Other ways to maintain the grid without collapsing is to have the full and complete use of Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA).. ...Does adopting this cause Nigeria her 100 years budget?

This analysis is very shallow, it is purely lack of proactive persons in control of transmission

Corporate2020:
Cry well well

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Now crawl back into your hell hole!
Useless baaaastarrrd of a thousand fathers 😁😁

nairalanda1:
The problem with the power sector is the fact that the sector is not allowed full control over matters of pricing.

That has been the issue since 2013, and will remain the issue until the government and people of Nigeria face reality and realize that you get what you pay for.

If only every Nigerian can get an affordable meter( even if it's 1 phase) without stress.

You want to compare someone carrying 1 Tonne to someone carrying 1kg in a race. Oga Wike's money requirement in a year might not exceed $200 million that can't be compared to someone that need minimum $1billion yearly

It is out of love for his tribe that the minister of power with a low ebb performance is neither sacked nor transferred,power sector is a goldmine to a tax sensitive leader like ours and the only reform in this sector is tax coordinations between the first family and the minister,allowing him continue is the height of stellar performance,interest first interest all first family first served equals continuation.TCN honoured the minister with a brand new lexus jeep it eluded all the anti corruption campaigners in the country.

tax generators do not get punished

adenigga:
Source: https://dailypost.ng/Nigerian-Power-Minister-Adelabu-escapes-Tinubu’s-sledge-hammer-amid-incessant-grid-collapses

Power is actually improving but he needs to cut the shit out with this collapse of the national grid. He needs to sort it out

chidiokay:
If the word is "improving" i wonder how your life go be

Before Adelabu came on board what was the generated megawatt, as it gone up or surpassed

How much were Nigerians paying for darkness before vs now

For any bus stop between oshodi to toll gate dem suppose dey slap you nii

He recently broke record for power generated at 5000 MW. So, actually, it has gone up.

Na Oyo state governor be that 2027

Which sledgehammer? Na sledgehammer abi broom stick?

ejieddy:
Power is actually improving but he needs to cut the shit out with this collapse of the national grid. He needs to sort it out

Where is the power improving?

This your analysis is what I come looking for on Nairaland. Not the daily cynicism, toxicity and tribalism

Housing:
Electricity supply has improve massively, and the System Operator of the TCN is about to be given out to private professionals for efficiency, improvements and prevention of incessant grid collapse.

But Nigerians need to understand reasons for national grid collapse.

There are 26-grid connected power plants currently.

These power plants generate the power that the entire country uses, and it's synchronised and distributed across the country by the TCN.

TCN are the ones that handle the distribution of power by sending it to Discos.

TCN is a government owned entity that majorly operates in three (3) different departments.

1. Transmission Service Provider (TSP)
2. System Operator (SO)
3. Market Operator (MO)

- TSP are the ones in charge of maintaining the cables and towers that transmit the light.

- MO are the ones that handle market processes, rules, enforcement, finances, etc.

- SO are the ones in charge of maintaining and stabilising our national grid.

National grid is the interconnections of high transmission wires/cables across the country.

Grid frequency measures the demand and supply of electricity despatch to consumers from the Gencos.

Frequency meters are measured in hertz (Hz).

Based on the grid code, our normal frequency level is supposed to be 50Hz.

Example:
If the current power generation is 4000MWh and people are using all the 4000MWh, then supply is equal to demand, and frequency should be 50Hz.

This is a perfect condition that is highly unlikely.

If we are generating 4000MWh and People are using 3700Mwh, then obviously supply is higher than demand, and for that reason, the frequency will show you 51Hz.

If we are generating 4000MWh and people are trying to use 4200MWh, demand is higher than supply, and for that reason, the frequency will show 49Hz.

I know you will ask me how you can be generating 4000MWh and be trying to use 4200MWh😅😅

Take, for instance, your using I-pass-my-neighbour generator, and you're trying to connect 2HP A.C. with microwave on the generator😂

The generator will just automatically shut down.

That's how it happens, too, on the national grid.

Nigerian national grid is set to operate on a designated frequency level

Upper limit = 51.25Hz

Lower limit = 48.75Hz

The job of an S.O. is to make sure that the frequency movement is in between these 2 levels

Any significant deviation from these 2 levels, i.e., if it exceeds the threshold above or below it, such might trigger a national grid collapse.

A grid collapse is not like a collapse that something bad happens, no. The 26 grid connected generators will automatically shut down because of safety and security reasons.

In your houses, if you have a serious electrical fault, the circuit breaker will trip off to shut down the entire supply and protect everyone from potential injury or damages.

The demand for electricity is not static. For example, let's say you have 10 ACs in your house and other appliances.

In full capacity, your house is consuming 500Kwh, and average capacity can be 300Kwh or less.

Lets say in this hot weather, they only allocate 250Kwh to your house, and you're trying to use it in full capacity, if you switch on everything the demand will exceed the available supply you have and for that reason the light will automatically go off

These are all examples of how a demand is trying to exceed supply and how the system will protect itself.

On the flip side, when supply exceeds demand, the system will equally go off for safety reasons.

In Nigeria, supply does not always exceed demand unless there is an adverse event that occurs. I will explain.

In 2022, when TCN unions (NUEE) decide to go on strike, they just off the light abruptly without notice nor following the normal process, this trigger imbalance

Between the demand and supply.

They off the electricity around Abuja axis and co areas without the S.O. necessarily transferring the load somewhere. This resulted in higher supply, less demand because the generators are working, but nobody to pick load. It means

For E.g, there is 4000MWh being generated from GenCos. You went ahead to shut down almost 500MWh without channelling that MWh somewhere else. It becomes a redundant, and the system does not accept redundancy. For that reason, the entire power plants go off to protect itself

The frequency will be showing something more than 52Hz in some cases because supply is higher than demand.

This is why you will see that they will bring light now and take it off again.

The demand is not static, and as its changing, the S.O. will also be Making sure that the supply is reasonable enough to maintain frequency reading within the allowable limit.

TCN will ask a disco to take 200Mw, and within a short time, they will reduce that 200Mw to 190Mw depending on how generation and demand are behaving

This is all done to protect the grid and maintain balance.

If TCN asks Disco to reduce the MW, that's when you see discos taking light off, or maybe if there is a major repair.

Also, if there is a repair and a disco can not offtake power, then either the disco rechannel it Somewhere or the TCN will do it themselves.

What causes grid collapse is not a deflection of small MW in the generation pool. It has to be a major disruption that is SIGNIFICANT enough to create imbalance within short time, making it impossible for the S.O. to react immediately.

You have a generation pool of 4000MW, and a sudden problem occurs at the transmission line, which takes out almost 500MW off. This is significant enough to cause grid collapse.

Even that 500MW, it has to be so fast that the S.O. cannot react at the immediate point.

Disruption like 10MW, 20MW is not significant enough, and it's usually handled by the S.O. or even the disco

Other ways to maintain the grid without collapsing is to have the full and complete use of Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA).

This will make it easy for the S.O. to react faster and save the grid from collapsing.

Spinning reserve is also another option

But we do not have enough generation talkless of having a spinning reserve 😅😅

Reserve means a situation where demand is increasing, and you're matching up the demand by increasing supply immediately 😅

After grid collapses, the S.O. will immediately order the restoration or start off of power plants again. They usually call it black start.

They initiate the power plant and begin to give electricity to strategic discos gradually

It's a normal process, just like when your circuit breaker trips off, then you fix it and on your light again.

This is why the grid will collapse, and they will restart it before the news even go out. By the time its in the news, some people will be saying, but we have light😂

Need to also mention that some power plants are not connected to the grid, and there is partial collapse and system-wide collapse. These can also be the reason why someone from a far away remote location can be claiming to have light when the grid collapses.

Credit to Habu Sadiek for the in depth analysis.

Ikaeniyan0:
Adelabu is one of the best minister. It does not make any sense to sack him. Sacking Adelabu is like sacking Umahi.

How is he one of the best ministers?

What is special about umahi that he should not be asked?

adenigga:
Source: https://dailypost.ng/Nigerian-Power-Minister-Adelabu-escapes-Tinubu’s-sledge-hammer-amid-incessant-grid-collapses

I always thought he and that Uju girl from women affairs were gonna b too in my list....

kingkelvin2033:
This your analysis is what I come looking for on Nairaland. Not the daily cynicism, toxicity and tribalism

How does his analysis make up for the power failure?

Is it analysis that will solve the power problem?

olyrayy:
He recently broke record for power generated at 5000 MW. So, actually, it has gone up.

you disappointed even more than i estimated


As far back as 2012 we did generated 5000 mega watt, Maybe some of you dont know our capacity is 11,165MW and till date, we are yet to surpass half (5582) ... so where is the improvement

Under one week National grid collapsed 3 times and someone thinks we have improved

tommy589:
In preparation for 2027 he is of electoral value and this our little community is getting improved power supply than before

You ignoramus.... In ur little community......Thunder fire that ur little brain 🧠, we in d north no b human beings we b?

Analysis will not solve the power problem. But educating future leaders of which a few might be on Nairaland can solve the problem. The problems facing Nigeria require a very long term outlook. Where Belle face culture and hustle mentality will only keep destroying this nation. By the way, oga where is your own solution? How are you solving the problem sir?

lexy2014:
How does his analysis make up for the power failure?

Is it analysis that will solve the power problem?

Salewa97:
Adelabu must have his reasons for whatever is going on. My opinion though

You must be very stupid

Even blind people know that power supply has improved very well in Nigeria. Bùt saboteurs won't see this!