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J3susFr3ak:
Keep on deceiving yourself. It was only after the 6 day war in 1967 that the PLO got an image makeover to use the "Arab" descriptor less and adopt the term "Palestine" as the a descriptor in order to appear like the victim here...since Arab connotes the presence of hundreds of millions of people against a tiny 7 million Jews at the time.

But the truth is....the term Palestine used today (far removed from the Biblical Phillstine people who were mostly Greeks from Crete)....the term Palestine used today is a code word for ARAB.

And the code word for ARAB refers to MUSLIM.

When gullible Western people are deceived to sing "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"....

The actual phrase as actually sung in Arabic is different. It actually says: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be ARAB!"

And remember--in this context, Arab means MUSLIM.

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It gets attributed to Yasser Arafat and while he did popularise it in the modern PLO ecosystem of militancy he didnt originate it. Just made it "main stream"

It first got uttered by the Arab Liberation Army during the 1947 war started by the Gaza Protectorate against local jews & the immigrant Jews of the area. The ALA were basically Pan Arabist interlopers who tried also to recruit from the arab population of what is now north israel and got poor recruitment rates.

Essentially they had two war cries. "Unity, Liberation, Vengence" and "from water to water, Palestine will be Arab". That 2nd one is the root origin of "From the River to the sea. Basically when Arafat popularised the old ALA slogan. He gave it a face lift. Obscured its meaning behind a creative translation. But 1/2 those signs you see at marches where people put it in English & Arabic. The Arabic actually translates out as "water to water, Palestine will be arab".

Thankfully with advent of AI and better computer software. Google has a feature on the search box to upload pics. Try it out. Screen grab some pics of signs saying the english version from those marches. Then a few with both English and Arabic. You'll be surprised what some of them actually say in arabic." --
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/17mzus9/from_the_river_to_the_sea_palestine_will_be_arab/

Sleekfingers:
But the population of Muslims is way ahead of Christians in Israel. But they don't murder Christians.

Corrections:
The ones in Nigeria why are they murdering Christians?

Sleekfingers:
Are we talking about Nigeria here? Stick to the topic .

musicwriter:
Stop copying materials from Reddit and posting on Nairaland. I am not talking to the poster on Reddit, I am talking to you, so write with your own mind in order not to copy and paste out of context. Or quote a credible source and not a political Reddit comment cause the person on Reddit doesn't know any better.

With that out of the way, that location (the place called Israel today) was called Palestine in ancient time. There was no such country called Israel in ancient time.

Hedotus who went there in 450 BC called it Palestine and he even mentioned the neighboring countries.

Talking about the origin of circumcision, Herodotus said "For the people of Colchis are evidently Egyptian, and this I perceived for myself before I heard it from others. So when I had come to consider the matter I asked them both; and the Colchians had remembrance of the Egyptians more than the Egyptians of the Colchians; but the Egyptians said they believed that the Colchians were a portion of the army of Sesostris.

That this was so I conjectured myself not only because they are dark-skinned and have curly hair (this of itself amounts to nothing, for there are other races which are so), but also still more because the Colchians, Egyptians, and Ethiopians alone of all the races of men have practised circumcision from the first. The Phenicians and the Syrians who dwell in Palestine confess themselves that they have learnt it from the Egyptians."........ An account of Egypt by Herodotus.....450 BC.

No mention of the land of Israel. Yet, he was talking about circumcision that your bible claims was first done by Abraham. He mentioned Syrians, Palestinians, Phoenicians, Ethiopians, Egyptians. No mention of Israel because there was no such country called Israel there, let alone practicing circumcision.

Note that Herodotus went there, not that he was told. In another paragraph, he said "The pillars which Sesostris king of Egypt set up in the various countries are for the most part no longer to be seen extant; but in Syria, Palestine I myself saw them existing with the inscription upon them which I have mentioned and the emblem"..... An account of Egypt by Herodotus...... 450 BC.

What am I trying to tell you? The land of Palestine had been before Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The war is between Palestine and Jewish terrorist Zionist

Corrections:
Which topic? Is Israel and Christianity not in the discuss here? Muslims can’t stop Christians from loving 🥰 Israel 🇮🇱 anytime any day because they are not killers of Christians like islam and Muslims.


Islam and Muslims did this not ISRAEL!!!


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J3susFr3ak:
Understandably, posts like yours are intended to drive a tactical wedge between Jews and Christians, exploiting certain differences to be able to make a mountain out of a mole-hill.

Here is my understanding of the scenario. An extremist section of the Jewish community is many times prone to over-reacting due to the many occurrences of injustices in history, meted to Jews--to transfer that aggression to Christians. But there is a firm Government reaction against those actions and many Jews have been arrested and even jailed for such actions.

When Netanyahu was pressured to outlaw Christian Evangelical preachings in Israel, he resisted even the extremist elements of his own Government. He ensured that laws limiting Christian evangelism did not see the light of day. This is what he said: " Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told a Christian evangelical audience in Washington on Monday that they were Israel's best friends in the world." -- https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-evangelical-christians-are-israels-best-friends/
and
https://www.christianitytoday.com/1998/10/how-evangelicals-became-israels-best-friend/


Most sensible Jews in Israel also know this escpecially after October 7th when most of the world turned against Israel....the Church got it right this time around to defend Israel.

The only reason America stands with Israel (even greater than the way Europe does) is because of the prevailing influence of Christians in America who (like most Christians around the world) see the land of Israel as the very origins of the blessings of the Christian faith which began with Jews themselves.

The fact that most of the Jews today do not understand who Jesus is or the message of the Cross....does not mean that there is not a day in God's timetable when they will finally have their eyes open. That day is approaching soon.

It is 100 percent possible to witness the existence of a Jewish Christians or a Jew who comes to embrce Jesus Christ as Lord. It is an impossiblity to witness the existence of Jew who is a Muslim.

Nwaikpe:
If it were to be muslims, they would have even slaughtered the family of the Christian soldier and shouted allahu akbar.

Jews are quite tolerant. They can even permit other religions, Christians and Muslims in their army while Muslim countries don't permit any church.



God bless the IDF
God bless the Mossad
God bless Israel
God bless all the Jews

May the cult called islam, the cancer of the modern society, go into oblivion, just as it started. Amin

J3susFr3ak:
Those people you are calling "Palestineans" before the advent of Islamic invasions--their forefathers were mostly Christians since the Eastern Roman Empire (the Byantinnes) controlled that area. It is just like Bethlehem. In the 1990s, 70 percent of people in the city of Bethlehem when it was controlled by the Jews were Palestinean Christians. (These Palestineans are not the cause of most of the troubles in Israel today). When the Oslo accord forced the Jews to relinquish control of Bethlehem and other Biblical cities like Hebron to Palestinean control....guess what happened? Bethlehem today has less than 20 percent Palestinean Christians as the Muslims took over. The Arab Muslims saw other Arab Christians with deep suspicoun and began persecuting them. This drove away most of the remaining Christians from that place.

So you can imagine, that even the birth place of Christ, Bethlehem, and other Biblical cities like Hebron are very dangreous places for any Christians to visit today because Muslim Terrorists are busy breeding a lot of hate and terror just like Gaza.

nolzautoz:
Hypocrite Righteousness2 will not comment on this.
Such a hypocrite he is

k4kenny:
@bolded, Islam expressly forbids mindlessly killing people because they're of another faith. We overly condemn such acts of violence as they have nothing to do with Islam, yet all you scream is taqiyya that doesn't exist in Islam(it exists in the bible tho ). We're thankful enlightened scholars are rising in the North and are putting an end to this killing.

Using such isolated examples as justification for killing an entire nation and destroying it's infrastructure is a clear indication that christians too are not as peaceful, loving and forgiving as they claim to be? Why would you celebrate the brutal murder 6yr old Hind and her family by Israhelli snipers because of the lone incident of Deborah in Sokoto, which the majority of Muslims condemned?

Christians should stop lying about peace and love. No such thing exists in your theology.

Also we have sufficient evidence to show that ISIS, Boko haram(ISWAP), Al Qaeda are all handworks of the terrorist Mossad and CIA. They really need to make monsters out of Muslims so you can celebrate their genocide. Mainstream media has been their tools of deception, the eyes of most people have been opened to the truth.

Nwaikpe:
If it were to be muslims, they would have even slaughtered the family of the Christian soldier and shouted allahu akbar.

Jews are quite tolerant. They can even permit other religions, Christians and Muslims in their army while Muslim countries don't permit any church.



God bless the IDF
God bless the Mossad
God bless Israel
God bless all the Jews

May the cult called islam, the cancer of the modern society, go into oblivion, just as it started. Amin

Nwaikpe:
If it were to be muslims, they would have even slaughtered the family of the Christian soldier and shouted allahu akbar.

Jews are quite tolerant. They can even permit other religions, Christians and Muslims in their army while Muslim countries don't permit any church.
U ARE A PSYCHOPATH


God bless the IDF
God bless the Mossad
God bless Israel
God bless all the Jews

May the cult called islam, the cancer of the modern society, go into oblivion, just as it started. Amin

J3susFr3ak:
This was why I put the quotation marks where the reference to the Redditor's comment was made....they did make reference to many important sources.

So....I assume you are one of those Africanist or Black Hebrew folks so steeped in reviewing history from an alternative lens?

YET...you seem to have a bitter anti-Christian jab and gripe than you do with Muslims.....almost like, making excuses for them.

With regards to your point on Herodotus, he existed at a time when the Jewish Kingdom were exiled to Persia. Funny enough....since you seek legitimacy from Greek historians of antiquity....why did you not mention the time of Alexander the Great and his conquest of the known world at the time? Do you know why Alexander furiously damaged every single Kingdom and nation he found between Anatolia (present day Turkey) to far away India at that time...YET...he spared the Jewish Kingdom fresh on their return from Babylonian exile?

Do you want to know which people he met in Israel and what they said to him that actually changed his mind from attacking them? Read anout it. This is your assignment for now.

Herodotus wrote between 550 and 479 BCE, so most, if not all, of his writings would be based on those years. Second, until when did the First Temple lasted? It is accepted that by the first part of the VI Century BCE, the Temple had already been destroyed. Which means by the time Herodotus was born, Israel and Judea were long gone into exile. Plus, Judea had been a weak kingdom for the last years of its existence.

Besides... There are other Ancient sources confirming the existence of Israel like the Mesha Stele of the Moabites and the Assyrians mention of Omri’s Israel.

Its incredible seeing people make bold claims whithout any knowledge, that Israel or Jews “didn’t exist back then”.

So if I said the Yoruba people never existed but you as a possible living Yoruba person existing today points to your chest and shouts: See me! I exist. I am Yoruba! --is that not enough evidence that since you exist today, you are also a product of a long cultural lineage that started off somewhere?

Thank God the Jews had most of their history encapsulated in "writing". Can you say that of any other ethnic group that can track its existence for more than 5 thousand years with solid archaelogical evidence that can be proven today too?

k4kenny:
No resting in peace for the terrorist soldier responsible for a genocide. May the angels of the grave inflict the most painful punishment upon him.



Which christian cemetry? The same one rabid zionist terrorist have desecrated and destroyed the tombstones?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EINrQgQV-Q?si=1WPR4-ejTBCh_zJd

Jews spit on and attack christians, yet the same christians are ready to lick the floor zionazis walk on. No wonder their rabbis call them slaves


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z581dbGqr08?si=8wn7Ft2-1IZ0Q4-P

elbangeez:
Boko haram, ISWAP, Bandits, alqaeda, iSIS, have killed more muslims than christians. More than 80% of the people killed by these terrorists are muslim. Does this make sense to you? This answers your question

Edusouls:
they have killed thousands of Palestine Christians in Gaza abby u think Christians don’t live in Gaza and Lebanon? U see why oyibo call you people black monkey

Sleekfingers:
For your information I don't practice those two useless religions ( Islam and Christianity)

Kukutente23:
Yeah. You don't support boko haram. You don't support the killing of Deborah too I guess. We know how you guys are. When it's convenient you don't support, when the shoe is on the other foot you praise Allah.

I agree not all Muslims are terror inclined but Muslims generally don't condemn this things when they are being carried out. It is when the foot is on the other shoe that you start forming holier than thou.

I challenge you to show me a verse in the bible where Christians are asked to kill non-believers.

Catechizm:
Everybody making noise about Christians' love towards the Jews which is not reciprocated. 'Christians are dumb', 'Christians are slaves' bla bla bla. You all should shut the fvck up and listen!

The Jews are God's chosen people whether any mofo likes it or not. The Christians are aware of this and hence their UNCONDITIONAL love for the Jews, same love they have for all unsaved folks heading to hell like many of you on this platform.

Jesus loved unconstitutionally and was crucified by his own (the children of Israel) and he commands Christians to do same! Exactly what Christians are doing and are supposed to do!
If it looks stupid to you then there's a bad reason for it, which is, you are unsaved. Lost. Y'all should get saved today, myself included.

Mind you, The children of Israel will never go unpunished for rejecting and crucifying the Messiah. They will be chastised by God himself.

Nwaikpe:
Did they do so by shouting "Yaweh?"

Naaa

They possibly killed the "millions" of Christians in Gaza because muslim dogs decided to hide between them, to use them as shields. If those islamic mohammedan pigs just stayed in their islam stricken zones, the Christians wouldn't have been touched.


Abi, what do you think? Share your mind.

nolzautoz:
Hypocrite Righteousness2 will not comment on this.
Such a hypocrite he is

Corrections:
Na your Wa-ha-la be that. An important point is made here already let that sink into you.

Adesegun26:
Rip to him. He will be remembered as an hero who fought to death for his country ⭐

InvertedHammer:
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Only about 2% Israelis identify as Christians.
Infact there was an attempt to outlaw Christianity a few years ago until they considered the huge earnings from pilgrimage.

But na Nigerian Christians carry Israel matter for head Ignorance is bliss.

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SEGLIZ:
you need tell this to righteousness2 who is so obsessed with this way, the self acclaimed born again or christian can't differentiate between christians and Jews, Christianity and Judaism. let come and read this before he support this evil further.

J3susFr3ak:
Those people you are calling "Palestineans" before the advent of Islamic invasions--their forefathers were mostly Christians since the Eastern Roman Empire (the Byantinnes) controlled that area. It is just like Bethlehem. In the 1990s, 70 percent of people in the city of Bethlehem when it was controlled by the Jews were Palestinean Christians. (These Palestineans are not the cause of most of the troubles in Israel today). When the Oslo accord forced the Jews to relinquish control of Bethlehem and other Biblical cities like Hebron to Palestinean control....guess what happened? Bethlehem today has less than 20 percent Palestinean Christians as the Muslims took over. The Arab Muslims saw other Arab Christians with deep suspicoun and began persecuting them. This drove away most of the remaining Christians from that place.

So you can imagine, that even the birth place of Christ, Bethlehem, and other Biblical cities like Hebron are very dangreous places for any Christians to visit today because Muslim Terrorists are busy breeding a lot of hate and terror just like Gaza.

Olatunji1929:
Someone died fighting for you and you don't won't him to enter his hell fire with cross in peace, jew no just like Christian and na Christian dey slave for them pass 😂 anyway may his memory be cursed

wonder233:
It is this Isreal Palestine conflict I got to know how truly ignorant Nigerians are. In a Nigerian's mind, Isreal is the headquarters of Christianity! . See all of them shouting "touch not Isreal" bla bla bla.. Tell Nigerian Christians that this Isreal they are foaming on their mouths for has nothing to do with their Christian religion. But hate for another set of people will rather make them cut their nose to spite their face.
Nigerian Christians, Isreal hates your Jesus to the bone. If you go to their country to even go and help them fight this war, they will even be the one to kill you themselves.

sweetjohn:
I rather prefer to be killed by a Jew than be beheaded by a terrorists religion called Islam for an evil Allah.

sweetjohn:
I rather prefer to be killed by a Jew than be beheaded by a terrorists religion called Islam for an evil Allah.

For a reminder, you lied to the highest heaven. Jews don’t hate christains and they don’t kill Christian’s. It is Christian’s that need to apologize to the Jews bc the early Christian’s in Europe killed millions of Jews and treated them badly. But thank God today, we have come to accept them as a people and the Jews and Christians are best of friends today.

The only people still herbouring hates and trying to kill the Jews are the Muslims bc their evil Allah commanded so. But let me assure all of you. The Jews will wipe all of una from the surface of the earth.

Una no even do half of what the Christians in Europe do to them and yet the Christians couldn’t defeat them. Good the Christians realizes their mistake and came to love the Jews.