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Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 6:20am On Oct 26, 2024
Sapasenator:
I have someone crying on my phone with 50m for account desperate to get out of the country
He has no clue how bleeped up the country is
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by BluntCrazeMan: 6:33am On Oct 26, 2024
fullclub:
19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.
..

This No.19 is everything.!!
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by emperor4love(m): 6:34am On Oct 26, 2024
Gerrard59:
I would sound like a broken record, but Tensa20 is doing very well as he earns not less than $10K per month even on a student visa.

What do you have against Chile - South America's most developed and prosperous country?
are you dey one paying him 10k as a tech coy or he don show u him slip bfr
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by BluntCrazeMan: 6:35am On Oct 26, 2024
fullclub:
Honestly bro at last i was alright.. But some actually went back or sent back by school.

It's worthy to give thanks to God who made it possible its not by power or might or intelligent but just God grin
Will you come back to Nigeria after the Graduation.??

Or you have made adequate plans to remain there.??
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by nnewsnjobs: 6:39am On Oct 26, 2024
latiephwald:
I’m planning to relocate to the UK for work and would appreciate any guidance on the criteria I need to meet. Could you also provide insight into the typical expenses and funds needed for a smooth transition?

To support this move, I’m considering selling my car, valued at around 6-7 million, as well as land worth 2 million. In your opinion, would this be sufficient to achieve my relocation goals?

Thank you for your assistance, and I look forward to any advice you can offer.
You can contact me for the car purchase if you finally make up your mind.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by fullclub(op): 6:45am On Oct 26, 2024
Gerrard59:
Congratulations to OP. I am really for you as I know it must have been a huge struggle to pull through.

As for the back-biting, I am not surprised as I have stated here that the older generation in the UK seems to be annoyed or envious (how easy the immigrant routes are these days) of recent migrants. Also, they have this classist mentality that "I have been here before you. So know your place". This is largely mired in poverty as it applies to other migrants from the developing world. Although, a way to counter such is to tighten the immigration system so that only the best and brightest have access to the country. Such as legal immigration to the US and Singapore. Indians in the US are highly respected than their counterparts in Canada.

As for people making it in Nigeria, that is very true. There are people who have very high-paying jobs in Nigeria and live very well (legal money). However, their conditions cannot be used to describe the entire Nigeria. I recall my ex-boss lamenting about Nigeria's politicians, people he praised regularly when he used the roads to his state or somewhere in Kogi. He was shocked at how dangerous the roads were. This is someone who rarely leaves Lagos without flying. This is the same mistake this new set of elites make every day - siddon for Lagos and Abuja then christen everyone in Nigeria as "doing well". To be fair though, I don't expect any less from APC supporters. The reason I don't debate the state of Nigeria with them. Although, I still believe Nigeria holds more entrepreneurial economic opportunities than most countries in Africa aside from South Africa. However, it is important to state that Nigeria goes beyond Lagos and Abuja at least for economic reasons.

The last two years must have been tough for Nigerian students in the UK (especially older ones who are married and with children). As I have stated countless times, should the economy get to pre-2015 levels, MANY Nigerians would gladly return. Many would still return anyway but at a later date. Reading their stories further makes me to be grateful towards the Japanese. I was so pampered and afforded ample financial and economic opportunities here. To be fair though, I had the requisite experience from Nigeria, attended a top university here, worked on the language and I am unmarried with children. Nevertheless, the Japanese have been so good to me, and I deeply appreciate it.
I will really appreciate it if you can open a thread on your Japanese japa, how the going has been, school work etc.

Thanks brother
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Mindlog: 6:53am On Oct 26, 2024
pocohantas:
Congrats on the completion of your studies.


I read every single word in your post and I am happy for you. Indeed two good heads are better than one.

You guys that japa are brave.
I fear japa pass lion and tiger put together.
U dey fear japa?😂😂😂

Truly, it sucks so much from one but with resilience, one can eventually achieve stability.
The mistake most Nigerians who came to the UK through the study route, is coming over to study "useless" courses though the real intention was migration but why pay as much £18,000 for courses that would not realistically position you for a well paying job with skilled worker visa attached?

After graduation, some still paid another £12,000 for care visa sponsorship and still not getting regularly shifts., just hanging on a thread with their employers' sponsorship licenses awaiting the sledge hammer from the UK Home Office.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by princemaths: 6:54am On Oct 26, 2024
MT:
The bolded is not true.

If you are adequately skilled, put your profile on Linkedln, it is the employers that will be chasing you up and down.

Change your mindset, you don't need to bribe your ways through high paying professional jobs in Nigeria. It is MOSTLY on merits and performances.

When it comes to Govt jobs, they use connection to get jobs in Government work abroad too, like Nigeria.
my friend shut up there is no high paying tech job anywhere in Nigeria except you're into scams. Why not show us your own job. You're just a 20k paid APC made to spread lies as you're doing.

A country with no 24/7 light and high speed internet is going no where in tech. 90% of fforeign companies want nothing to do with Nigerians. So shut your mouth and go back to your pithole
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by PEACE2023: 7:03am On Oct 26, 2024
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) To all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.
Another British slave celebrating in his captives soil. Ewu
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by ItisWell22(f): 7:03am On Oct 26, 2024
moshuur:
People forgot one major factor.....he's got dependant.

The dependant can work full time....
Exactly!

Congrats, op.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by MOBBDEEP: 7:05am On Oct 26, 2024
jmaine:
I seriously doubt you are a tech boy because your analytical mind is too poor and basic to be worth engaging.

In the UK, 12 m out of 69 m is approximately 17.39% with a better standard of living and a life expectancy of 81.92 years..

In Nigeria, 129 m out of 200m is approximately 64.5% with a worse standard of living and a life expectancy of 56.05 years.

Which of them can be termed staggering? A poverty rate of under 20% cannot be termed staggering. Nigeria with a poverty rate of approximately 65% is not only staggering, but equally alarming, and shocking. All indicators of a FAILING STATE.

Hello guyz, you are better off not engaging this guy, because he is very deficient in engaging in an intellectual discourse and can't back up the tripe he has been spewing since. Likely a young lad still suckling from his parent's

I rest my case with this indelible quote "Empty Barrels make the Loudest Noise"
He's a billy & I ponder why you didn't realize that
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by lastkingsman: 7:09am On Oct 26, 2024
Mindlog:
U dey fear japa?😂😂😂

Truly, it sucks so much from one but with resilience, one can eventually achieve stability.
The mistake most Nigerians who came to the UK through the study route, is coming over to study "useless" courses though the real intention was migration but why pay as much £18,000 for courses that would not realistically position you for a well paying job with skilled worker visa attached?

After graduation, some still paid another £12,000 for care visa sponsorship and still not getting regularly shifts., just hanging on a thread with their employers' sponsorship licenses awaiting the sledge hammer from the UK Home Office.
People really made money from COS runs. It's well
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Mindlog: 7:10am On Oct 26, 2024
MT:
The bolded is not true.

If you are adequately skilled, put your profile on Linkedln, it is the employers that will be chasing you up and down.

Change your mindset, you don't need to bribe your ways through high paying professional jobs in Nigeria. It is MOSTLY on merits and performances.

When it comes to Govt jobs, they use connection to get jobs in Government work abroad too, like Nigeria.
You lie!

I am presently a public service worker (govt worker) with a London borough. They advertised a job vacancy on their website, LinkedIn and Indeed.

We were 217 that applied for the job, 34 was shortlisted for the interview which we had at their council headquarters near London bridge.

I was the only one who scaled through and got hired despite still being on the skilled worker visa route and so many other applicants were British citizens. They went through the stress of thoroughly contacting all my references in the Countries I have schooled and worked in and I finally got to switch sponsor.

Now , enjoying the job with good pay package, beautiful working environment few minutes walk to the iconic London bridge and Tower bridge.

My "connection" was my academic qualifications, work history, evident professional skills and God's grace.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by lastkingsman: 7:11am On Oct 26, 2024
Karleb:
What you said here is very very false.

It is an insult to hard working Nigerians.
Don't mind that yeye man. Always yapping nonsense. The same Nigeria wey I know abi another one?
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by femi4: 7:12am On Oct 26, 2024
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) To all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.
It's not about learning how to drive, it's about passing the driving test cos uk driving system is another kettle of fish. They driving on the right, many crazy round abouts, road marking speed limits and road signs
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by princemaths: 7:14am On Oct 26, 2024
Gerrard59:
Congratulations to OP. I am really for you as I know it must have been a huge struggle to pull through.

As for the back-biting, I am not surprised as I have stated here that the older generation in the UK seems to be annoyed or envious (how easy the immigrant routes are these days) of recent migrants. Also, they have this classist mentality that "I have been here before you. So know your place". This is largely mired in poverty as it applies to other migrants from the developing world. Although, a way to counter such is to tighten the immigration system so that only the best and brightest have access to the country. Such as legal immigration to the US and Singapore. Indians in the US are highly respected than their counterparts in Canada.

As for people making it in Nigeria, that is very true. There are people who have very high-paying jobs in Nigeria and live very well (legal money). However, their conditions cannot be used to describe the entire Nigeria. I recall my ex-boss lamenting about Nigeria's politicians, people he praised regularly when he used the roads to his state or somewhere in Kogi. He was shocked at how dangerous the roads were. This is someone who rarely leaves Lagos without flying. This is the same mistake this new set of elites make every day - siddon for Lagos and Abuja then christen everyone in Nigeria as "doing well". To be fair though, I don't expect any less from APC supporters. The reason I don't debate the state of Nigeria with them. Although, I still believe Nigeria holds more entrepreneurial economic opportunities than most countries in Africa aside from South Africa. However, it is important to state that Nigeria goes beyond Lagos and Abuja at least for economic reasons.

The last two years must have been tough for Nigerian students in the UK (especially older ones who are married and with children). As I have stated countless times, should the economy get to pre-2015 levels, MANY Nigerians would gladly return. Many would still return anyway but at a later date. Reading their stories further makes me to be grateful towards the Japanese. I was so pampered and afforded ample financial and economic opportunities here. To be fair though, I had the requisite experience from Nigeria, attended a top university here, worked on the language and I am unmarried with children. Nevertheless, the Japanese have been so good to me, and I deeply appreciate it.
who told you it's only South Africa. There are far many African countries better off than Nigeria in entrepreneurship. Do your research Ghana, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mauritius, Angola... The only advantage Nigeria had was population and now that advantage is gone because the hardship is now too much. Benin republic now has a greater GDP per capita than Nigeria. Ewww!
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Mindlog: 7:15am On Oct 26, 2024
lastkingsman:
People really made money from COS runs. It's well
Many really cashed out, the 2 jobs that have granted me the COS, I didn't pay a dime for it.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by MOBBDEEP: 7:15am On Oct 26, 2024
oyeb15:
How can one use like 40million plus travel and hustle in another country.

With that money, I can live a quiet peaceful life in Nigeria with little investment.
May life not happen to you IJN to understand that 40M Naira is useless.
Just 1 security event or 1 serious health issue would turn the individual into struggling & begging lad overnight.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Calitoscassius(m):
All i read here is car, car car, drive, drive, drive, license, manual, automatic and more car car car. Even the information on driving is wrong. 5m to learn driving? 5m what? £5m? Or what?

There are millions of brits who do not drive or own a car yet they manage to have a job, go to work and earn good money.

And there is nothing wrong with an automatic car or license, most cars in UK or around the developed world nowadays are automatic anyway, soon manual cars will faze out.

You didn't tell us how owning a car cost so much money. Road tax, insurance, parking fee, MOT, petrol, servicing and repairs. Owning and running a car in the UK could cost atleast £200 month and to afford it you d have to work more hours, working more hours you don't need to just to pay for running a car apart from the normal hours or need more higher paid job to afford to run a car.

Where are you going to that takes 2:30hours to get to? shocked that is nearly more than half of the time it would take for an airplane from Heathrow to land in Abuja, grin and it would take 13 minutes in your private car? Come on man! with all these Bloody! traffic, traffic lights, zebra crossings, roadworks and speed limits? why would you want to get their in 13 minutes anyway? Where are you rushing to? Work? Wake up earlier! get the bus or train, trains would get there quicker than your privat car.

The public transportation system is very good, you may not need a car to get to work..and even if you are driving as a job, imagine sitting driving 8 hours a day 5 days a week, you d become overweight, no interactions no nothing! Just you on your own sitting there driving, not to mention the backaches, knee pains and piles in your bum. grin

The Naigerian/african communities are lonely because they like to work, work, work, work, work and work. some leave their kids to care for themselves, join gangs, recruited by drug dealer and ends up in jail or stabbed to death because their parents are always working. Some say they are working, working sending money home so they can live like kings in Naigeeria in the end. And i ask, when? When will you live like a king in Naigeeria if you are in the UK for almost more than half of your life WORKING! grin


The white brits some black brits relaxes more, goes clubbing more spends more, socialise more and works less hours and earns average wages. Because you desparate newcomers and long term africans wants to do all the work, hours,morning and shifts available at work places and pays huge taxes to subsidize the wages of the white and black brits on benefits.

One Naigeerian guy did around 120 hours including overtimes each week on his first month, he was really excited hopping he will get a huge bumper pay when he gets his month wages. grin well... He was disappointed when he realised how much tax, NI and pension contrubution was deducted from his bumper pay. He thought he will take all the money he worked for home. Apparently he wasn't aware he must pay tax and NI or didn't think it would be that much. grin the look on his face indicated to me that he wasn't too jolly and glad to give up nearly 600 quid of his hard earned sterlings to his majesty. grin grin

I read that holders of student visas pays huge amount in school fees also every term hence having not much or no savings left for rent, bills and other commodities to pay for imagine having to pay for owning and running a car ontop. Some pays as much as £6000 per term i heard.

Electricity never runs out because you pay, if you don't pay it would be cut off or you end up with a county court judgement for unpaid bills, next thing baifliffs would start chasing after you. grin if you get a credit card as you suggested, if you are not careful you d end up in more debts to your bank.

The best advice is when you go to the UK you find out yourself how life is in the UK and decide. All these people on social media telling different stories are just telling it from their OWN experiences, when you go there your experience might be different. That's all.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by lastkingsman: 7:21am On Oct 26, 2024
Mindlog:
Many really cashed out, the 2 jobs that have granted me the COS, I didn't pay a dime for it.
Na free COS suppose be. Most People that initially bought actually recoup their investments, I won't even advise my enemy to pay for COS right now
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by herich(m): 7:25am On Oct 26, 2024
jmaine:
I seriously doubt you are a tech boy because your analytical mind is too poor and basic to be worth engaging.

In the UK, 12 m out of 69 m is approximately 17.39% with a better standard of living and a life expectancy of 81.92 years..

In Nigeria, 129 m out of 200m is approximately 64.5% with a worse standard of living and a life expectancy of 56.05 years.

Which of them can be termed staggering? A poverty rate of under 20% cannot be termed staggering. Nigeria with a poverty rate of approximately 65% is not only staggering, but equally alarming, and shocking. All indicators of a FAILING STATE.

Hello guyz, you are better off not engaging this guy, because he is very deficient in engaging in an intellectual discourse and can't back up the tripe he has been spewing since. Likely a young lad still suckling from his parent's

I rest my case with this indelible quote "Empty Barrels make the Loudest Noise"
You've been beating that @ MT since but you finally buried him grin grin grin
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Calitoscassius(m): 7:26am On Oct 26, 2024
CaptainFM1:
Nigeria would be better if people running away could do even just half of what you posted Sir.

Our government get their fault, so also are our people.
I taya oo!




The people are worst than the government. They are willing to live an upright life in the UK but cannot do the same in Naigeeria. The Naigeerian citizens are more corrupt than their politicians.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Mindlog: 7:27am On Oct 26, 2024
lastkingsman:
Na free COS suppose be. Most People that initially bought actually recoup their investments, I won't even advise my enemy to pay for COS right now
Paid for COS, is now a waving red flag.

Be truly skilled and have rich working experience in an in-demand field, you will comfortably be offered COS by firms with the sponsorship license.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by femi4: 7:27am On Oct 26, 2024
Mindlog:
U dey fear japa?😂😂😂

Truly, it sucks so much from one but with resilience, one can eventually achieve stability.
The mistake most Nigerians who came to the UK through the study route, is coming over to study "useless" courses though the real intention was migration but why pay as much £18,000 for courses that would not realistically position you for a well paying job with skilled worker visa attached?

After graduation, some still paid another £12,000 for care visa sponsorship and still not getting regularly shifts., just hanging on a thread with their employers' sponsorship licenses awaiting the sledge hammer from the UK Home Office.
Even if you study course that make sense, it's still not enough. Uk firms don't rate certificate but how experience you are on a given task. Their course work of 12-18 months won't give you that
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by princemaths: 7:31am On Oct 26, 2024
Gerrard59:
To be fair, GDP per capita isn't a comprehensive way to assess a country's economy.


Agreed. The tech sector should never be used as a basis to assess employment opportunities in any country. It is why many countries still focus on the manufacturing industry to be stable, growing and being able to create jobs for many people. Tech cannot offer the employment opportunities millions of Nigerians need.


A major problem I have with this new set of "elites" in Nigeria - the country starts in Lagos (Lagos Island, Lekki, VI, Ikeja GRA) and ends at Abuja (Guzape, Maitama etc). There is more to Nigeria beyond both places.
yes GDP per capital is a way to measure the standards of living of people in a country.

The lower the GDP per capita the poorer the people. If you have any better metric you can state to measure an economy. If you don't then keep quiet.

even the tech you mentioned doesn't give any employment except you're a content creator and that isn't a job.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Calitoscassius(m): 7:32am On Oct 26, 2024
Gerrard59:
Congratulations to OP. I am really for you as I know it must have been a huge struggle to pull through.

As for the back-biting, I am not surprised as I have stated here that the older generation in the UK seems to be annoyed or envious (how easy the immigrant routes are these days) of recent migrants. Also, they have this classist mentality that "I have been here before you. So know your place". This is largely mired in poverty as it applies to other migrants from the developing world. Although, a way to counter such is to tighten the immigration system so that only the best and brightest have access to the country. Such as legal immigration to the US and Singapore. Indians in the US are highly respected than their counterparts in Canada.

As for people making it in Nigeria, that is very true. There are people who have very high-paying jobs in Nigeria and live very well (legal money). However, their conditions cannot be used to describe the entire Nigeria. I recall my ex-boss lamenting about Nigeria's politicians, people he praised regularly when he used the roads to his state or somewhere in Kogi. He was shocked at how dangerous the roads were. This is someone who rarely leaves Lagos without flying. This is the same mistake this new set of elites make every day - siddon for Lagos and Abuja then christen everyone in Nigeria as "doing well". To be fair though, I don't expect any less from APC supporters. The reason I don't debate the state of Nigeria with them. Although, I still believe Nigeria holds more entrepreneurial economic opportunities than most countries in Africa aside from South Africa. However, it is important to state that Nigeria goes beyond Lagos and Abuja at least for economic reasons.

The last two years must have been tough for Nigerian students in the UK (especially older ones who are married and with children). As I have stated countless times, should the economy get to pre-2015 levels, MANY Nigerians would gladly return. Many would still return anyway but at a later date. Reading their stories further makes me to be grateful towards the Japanese. I was so pampered and afforded ample financial and economic opportunities here. To be fair though, I had the requisite experience from Nigeria, attended a top university here, worked on the language and I am unmarried with children. Nevertheless, the Japanese have been so good to me, and I deeply appreciate it.
very nicely put. I take it you live in Japan?
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Ashawoman82: 7:35am On Oct 26, 2024
lastkingsman:
Nigeria is finished. Your gdp per capita is now 850 USD per capita, Somalia is 643 USD in comparison and it will only get worse once all these loans Tulumbu is getting start maturing.

It's so sad you are here yapping about outliers in Nigeria economy. How many people work in the sector you mentioned?

So Nigeria starts and ends in Lagos island? What sort of foolishness is this?
very stupid guy, u should have ask him how many of such ppl does he know.. And basically what's he sees as rich is just the average standard in saner climes..
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by twosquare(m): 7:38am On Oct 26, 2024
fullclub:
19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.
You need to get out of England.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by fullclub(op): 7:39am On Oct 26, 2024
MT:
So you spotted your own folly eventually.

Why did you write epistle comparing Nigeria to advanced societies? I intentionally quoted what I quoted to tell you they have staggering poverty rate in advanced countries as well.

Do not even change the narratives, I put it out to you, what's responsible for your failure in Nigeria? It is time to stop being generalistic.
Bro i disagree with you.
Like in uk now once u are a citizen you have lots of benefits open to you.
. For instance if u are out of work the government ot council can give u a house to stay or better still give u money for rent.

If you fall below certain wage level there is income support benefit.

If you don't have food they can give u money to buy food.

Those that fall within this group are thr junkies, disable, elderly etc...

Nigeria n UK are on a different lane entirely.

If u are poor in UK.. What i mean by poor. Like can't afford d basics like food, house rent it could be that u are lazy to work, handicapped, elderly, drug addict.
Even if u have dementia its the responsibility of government to provide for u.
Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by esiri4jesu(m): 7:47am On Oct 26, 2024
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) To all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.
Is nigeria driver's license valid in the UK?
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