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Sapasenator:
I have someone crying on my phone with 50m for account desperate to get out of the country

Can't blame them, we're not living life in Nigeria fr. Healthcare in comatose, naira losing value like some crypto ponzi, little no security of lives and properties.

femi4:
Even if you study course that make sense, it's still not enough. Uk firms don't rate certificate but how experience you are on a given task. Their course work of 12-18 months won't give you that

Studying courses that "make sense" puts you on the pathway.

Let me give an example, If you come to the UK to do your Masters in Business Administration and your friend also comes to do his Masters in Psychology conversion (conversion because he didn't study psychology as a degree program for his undergraduate degree).

You both got part time support worker jobs as students till you both graduate, you an MBA degree while he, a Msc Psychology degree with the added accreditation as Graduate Member, British Psychological Society (GMBPsS) after his name.

Your friend will have higher opportunities of getting skilled worker visa related jobs than you with your MBA as recruiters see that your support worker job as a survival job for you while your friend would be seen as getting relevant work experience to apply what he was studying in school....Psychology is what I studied at both undergraduate and postgraduate levels, it has given me job opportunities and finally landed me a well paying job in the public sector with a London borough in their children and family services.

moshuur:
Ehn ehn...without N.I?

Toor....

I didn't collect my salary until it came out and it took 13 days. The author almost discouraged me but I didn't even listen when I knew our grace is different and is always best to know how abroad works before you make the journey.

VeeVeeMyLuv:
@ MT

In Nigeria these days to even get cleaner job you have to know somebody! Not to talk of all these federal jobs, big jobs, It is that bad. And no b say salary sef na anything. As in it's nearly worthless 😭

For gawd sake why should it b so?

that is how bad my beloved country is

Kelechi009:
The biggest requirement for a job in Britain in 2024 is ability to drive and your driving license. Most employees you meet require it and it is a scarce commodity there as compared to Nigeria.

This is false. Stop the cap. It is a requirement for certain jobs, not getting a job

Kelechi009:
A piece of advice living & working in the England, If you can find a part time VA or Data Entry remote job online on Upwork that pays you in $1000 per month from other countries into your Revolut or Transfer Wise account, so you can beat the tax system in England because if you're working overtime doing support jobs then more tax goes to HMRC, beat the system and get your money up.

Have you seen anyone that did that successfully in UK without spending years building up profile n chasing gigs up on down then at the end of the day u leave ur sole objective which is to japa, work n cash out.
Remember one is on visa n must utilise it leaving no stone unturned.

I could do that when i have all the time or back in Nigeria

Empresa:
I will continue to say this, before you japa make sure you have a skill. The more skills you have the better because if one no enter, another will enter. Before you know it, one at most two years, you don de send money home.

Mention the skills let's see please don't mention data analyst n their like because to land a job on that is no beans here

Mindlog:
Studying courses that "make sense" puts you on the pathway.

Let me give an example, If you come to the UK to do your Masters in Business Administration and your friend also comes to do his Masters in Psychology conversion (conversion because he didn't study psychology as a degree program for his undergraduate degree).

You both got part time support worker jobs as students till you both graduate, you an MBA degree while he, a Msc Psychology degree with the added accreditation as Graduate Member, British Psychological Society (GMBPsS) after his name.

Your friend will have higher opportunities of getting skilled worker visa related jobs than you with your MBA as recruiters see that your support worker job as a survival job for you while your friend would be seen as getting relevant work experience to apply what he was studying in school....Psychology is what I studied at both undergraduate and postgraduate levels, it has given me job opportunities and finally landed me a well paying job in the public sector with a London borough in their children and family services.

Psychology landed you a job because you are working in a unit that requires that skill set. Your experience trumps any certificate.

Here it is show all working. Other psychologists interviewed for that role. I'm very sure during your interview you were told to present something you've done before.

This mentality of doing a good course as a prerequisite for getting a job only works in Naija. In UK, it is 'Show All Working'

gtassure:
Eggxactly, not this "God" he is shouting up and down!

Its God who gave those assets in first place.
Secondly he made it possible to pass all courses successfully. If u fail then no certificate for u n back to Naija instantly

sonofthunder:
Can you shed more light on point number 6

The British love owombe lifestyle. They go clubbing from Friday or from Thursday to Sunday.. Night club everywhere. Their teens even go night clubs, parties, camping, festivals. Nude parties etc name it. All this American musicians comes here a lot for show.. All this stadium that u watch ur football during summer na party ground.

They drink a lot... Bear, whiskey etc
They smoke a lot.. Like 14 years smoking vapping.

otherway:
Who ask you all these stories?

We have been living in UK without so much noise for years but you guys that just came in newly are bunch of noise makers.

Please live your life in silence and stop informing village posts eople of your progress.

OWas that why if i greet u u will form woke and remain silent.

When i travel i documents my stuff filled with my experience. Sooo park one side or are u the owner of UK or ukvi that gives visa?

That smile part is what got me. I was chatting with my friend last week and he emphasized that keeping a smiling face is important. He knows me and had to emphasize it. Ha! Me wey hate laff and unnecessary smile.

Prince111111:
is not even that difficult in the UK, just don't be choosy when it comes to jobs. I got my first 2 jobs the same day I got here and even my wife.

I landed in UK in late September 2023 and got first job in December ending after hundred of application.
In my class and amongst my colleagues i was the first to land a job as others got February, March...

Probably u landed the golden time of 2021 just after the pandemic cos i learnt then job full everywhere

I must say in both threads you kept it real... never mind I was never in the UK. The same generally applies to the US but not as harsh nor strict. In your first thread I took the point you were making to be that one must be financially solid before making the move. You made it through the storm ... but did we really note that you had reserves? ... as in properties back home to sell if push come to shove? ... which you did sell? From your experience you shared we should ask ourselves if we japa ... and things don't go as expected ... what back up do we have? ... not hope to get ...what do we have? I do like that you served the reality ... the bitter truth ... which some of us do not want to hear ... while others will learn from it and fine tune their plans ... the ones that will hope for the best but be prepared for the worst. One really good advice is to learn to drive ... and learn as many other skills as possible.... hair braiding ...brick laying ... keyboard is like essential ... programmes after ... any skill ... may not be good at it ... but the experience is what counts as in you can't find a job as yet and construction is going on next door ... you approach for a job and are asked what can you do? Is it then you think you will be allowed to learn on the job? Great insight into reality.

fullclub:
Mention the skills let's see please don't mention data analyst n their like because to land a job on that is no beans here

First of all it depends where you want to japa to. You need to Google out what skill they need or lack. You need to make serious research before you leave.

For instance me am a barber, videographer, video editor, photographer, graphics designer, I also learnt how to stream online and create content. In Spain, they need editors who can do English content, proof read English contents like subtitles. I quickly attached myself to one studio as a trainee even though I Sabi the work. I got peanut initially but now I de very ok.

You see that live streaming thing and content creation, just run enter one big church. They go deliver you while you settle. Free money no de outside Nigeria but opportunities de everywhere.

afroxyz:
Psychology landed you a job because you are working in a unit that requires that skill set. Your experience trumps any certificate.

Here it is show all working. Other psychologists interviewed for that role. I'm very sure during your interview you were told to present something you've done before.

This mentality of doing a good course as a prerequisite for getting a job only works in Naija. In UK, it is 'Show All Working'

Experience and academic qualifications go hand in hand. In my field, you are presenting both.

Even on NHS recruitment portal, roles in my field always have NHS state categorically that you MUST have membership with the British Psychological Society and one is expected to input their BPS number, in the course of the application and they would go verify.

To get that number, you MUST have studied Psychology at degree level (either undergraduate or postgraduate) and met BPS qualifying threshold.

You can't have all the "experiences" without that degree and get those related roles.

For my field, that degree opens the door then your experience is that you show off at the table.

ShenTeh:
Those you have discouraged with your earlier post now, they have run with the inexperienced opinion you provided.

People should learn to understand a subject properly before lording opinions on others.

If you look back today, you'll probably see a lot of things you were getting wrong as a newcomer to the UK at the time. Usually, everywhere man migrates to, the earliest days are often the toughest. It would take resilience and focus to break the glass.

Now those wey you don discourage now don go chop their transport money. And exchange rate don come worse join. You see life?

Congrats on your path of success.

His opinion and advice in the previous thread still stands. Plan before japa, have enough fund

lastkingsman:
Agreed with everything you wrote but on number one, I did a relative comparison. Why is the GDP per capita on Somalian levels?

On a purchasing power parity level, naira is useless and can no longer purchase things of value. Put call across to your people in Nigeria and find out what's up

Regardless, Nigerians have a higher purchasing power than Somalians. Nigerians have a higher living standards than Gabonese or Equatorial Guineans.

princemaths:
yes GDP per capital is a way to measure the standards of living of people in a country.

The lower the GDP per capita the poorer the people. If you have any better metric you can state to measure an economy. If you don't then keep quiet.

even the tech you mentioned doesn't give any employment except you're a content creator and that isn't a job.

GDP is a lopsided way to assess living standards. You do that with HDI. GDP simply tells how much the citizens are worth based on the wealth it generates. However, for some places, it doesn't translate to a high purchasing power or even tells us how many jobs are available for new graduates. GDP by PPP actually shows the purchasing power of the citizens/residents in a country regardless of the population. China with its slightly lower population has a higher GDP by PPP than India. Nigerians, in fact, I would say some state residents spend more than many African countries' citizens.

Tech provides jobs, stable, learning opportunities and permanent than content creation. Content creation isn't tech. By tech, I mean actual jobs in companies within the technology division - software engineering, developers etc. So the posts by @MT are accurate - Nigerian banks pay their tech bros and sis very very well. Those people earn a lot of money. That's not content creation.

In all UK is till better . As long as your earning is enough to handle your bills.

princemaths:
who told you it's only South Africa. There are far many African countries better off than Nigeria in entrepreneurship. Do your research Ghana, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mauritius, Angola... The only advantage Nigeria had was population and now that advantage is gone because the hardship is now too much. Benin republic now has a greater GDP per capita than Nigeria. Ewww!

Yet those places have a higher unemployment rate than Nigeria. Please don't compare Ethiopia or Angola to Nigeria. The thing with entrepreneurship is that anyone can make it anywhere, but in Africa, the chances are higher in Nigeria than those places you mentioned except maybe Egypt, which I do not see as "Africa".

emperor4love:
are you dey one paying him 10k as a tech coy or he don show u him slip bfr

My friendship with Tensazangetsu20 is based on trust and freedom of expression aka Say As It's. Between ourselves, we've shared our job hunting struggles and wins. I've seen his pay slips and employment letters. He started with less than a $3K per month remote job, but now has two more jobs with the most recent being with The State Bank of Chile. Altogether his earnings is more than $10K per month. Trust me when I say he's living an extremely comfortable life in Chile.

cc: motymop & press9jatv

OboOlora:
IN ALL YOU DO TOO, AVOID NIGERIANS IN THE UK EXCEPT THE ONES YPU KNEW FROM NIGERIA. MOST OF THEM ARE ENVIOUS USERS!

This is why I always say there is something fundamentally wrong with the black man & why it maybe hard for Nigeria to ever get better. It is about our mindset. Imagine how Nigerians are still envious of each other in a foreign land. How can such a people make a country to work. We are just naturally bad people, reason the country is like this.

diamond68:
But op I fail to understand how you are winning, you sold landed properties and gave to white man in exchange for paper certificate. This is madness. And you say he was threatening to deport you back to your country if you did not pay him the fees. No be jibiti be that ? Oyinbo ti lu e ni jibiti

I now work so i will get back all spent double within few space of time. Remember that exchange rate is 2200 if my partner n I could save 2500 every month in a year that is 30,000 = 66 million and if i do that for 2 years that's 132m. Meaning i have made over 100m from 30 plus investment. I could now return to Nigeria to invest 50% of that money n leave rest of my life in retirement

Gerrard59:
My friendship with Tensazangetsu20 is based on trust and freedom of expression aka Say As It's. Between ourselves, we've shared our job hunting struggles and wins. I've seen his pay slips and employment letters. He started with less than a $3K per month remote job, but now has two more jobs with the most recent being with The State Bank of Chile. Altogether his earnings is more than $10K per month. Trust me when I say he's living an extremely comfortable life in Chile.

cc: motymop & press9jatv

wow he don chop big money 💴 . But tesan laments as if there’s no young Nigerians that’s not surviving Nigeria hardship.

Gerrard59:
Yet those places have a higher unemployment rate than Nigeria. Please don't compare Ethiopia or Angola to Nigeria. The thing with entrepreneurship is that anyone can make it anywhere, but in Africa, the chances are higher in Nigeria than those places you mentioned except maybe Egypt, which I do not see as "Africa".

which chances? So with erratic power supply in Nigeria 🇳🇬, there are great chances Abi. Abeg

fullclub:
Bro i disagree with you.
Like in uk now once u are a citizen you have lots of benefits open to you.
. For instance if u are out of work the government ot council can give u a house to stay or better still give u money for rent.

If you fall below certain wage level there is income support benefit.

If you don't have food they can give u money to buy food.

Those that fall within this group are thr junkies, disable, elderly etc...

Nigeria n UK are on a different lane entirely.

If u are poor in UK.. What i mean by poor. Like can't afford d basics like food, house rent it could be that u are lazy to work, handicapped, elderly, drug addict.
Even if u have dementia its the responsibility of government to provide for u.

You just drifted into UK space. It is early days.

Like I earlier stated, life is all about perspectives. You are focusing on the benefits system. Do you know how people and govt view people that are on benefit? They are considered a drag to the system and are denied many things by the govt. For instance, they are not allowed to invite anyone to the UK.

Do you know why UK is looking for highly skilled individuals? Because they do not want people with such benefit mentality in their system. They want individuals who can add measurable values into their environments. If you have real value, visa will never be a problem for you in any part of the world. If you are still celebrating getting a visa, then something is wrong with your value system. It should be a breeze. I found it shocking that a lot of people would pay thousands of pounds just to get a visa into another country, pretending to be a student but their main focus is to just get into western world. What a waste of resources!

Some people are making over 500 pounds per DAY, you are referencing a paltry Benefit System. You are standing on a wrong leg.

Again, do you now see why I mentioned that life was about perspective?

lastkingsman:
No, just submitted my dissertation yesterday.

A friend wanted to enter as EmiloCorn 🌽 heat is too much. Checked the tuition fee and was shocked

Congratulations brother.. It will come out to ur favour...

Which country is that bro

Regex:
I was a student here in UK. I saw even worse what you saw, I never came here to put out my story nor anywhere else. I knew it will never be easy from the get go. So I still stand by what I mean wrote!

Hey, don't be too hard on him. Circumstances and individuals differ. It was your choice not to have come here to put out your story and it was his own choice to come here. Neither of the choices should be condemned. People react to situations differently and perhaps coming to vent his frustrations was part of his coping mechanism.

Op, congrats on the successful completion of your program and I wish you more success in your future endeavours.

fullclub:
Its God who gave those assets in first place.
Secondly he made it possible to pass all courses successfully. If u fail then no certificate for u n back to Naija instantly

You can see I put God in quote! I'm not against God, I'm just saying God has nothing to do with what you've achieved! Covid19 vaccine that prevented millions of death was not made because people were calling on "God", so are many human successful endeavours! Why would God now become hyper active because of your small masters degree in this your youk!