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SIRTee15:
Guy quit it.
If you have problem with UK, just say so.
U said your tech friends are doing well in naija. What does that tell U about tech guys in uk- U think they will be in penury.
Guy my friends in tech in UK are doing really well. All of them are into their 2nd or even 3rd property, sending their kids to private schools and living in

His "problem" has been with the recent influx of Nigerian immigrants into the UK. Simple. Also, he seems to have an issue with successful young Nigerians residing abroad who don't support the way things are in Nigeria. To him, everyone should be "patriotic" just as he's - a typical APC supporter mentality.

Savagethe21st:
bro we don't earn lots of money. Firstly nigerian main banks (not fintech startups) usually employ us as contractors(not fulltime) then they pay us within they range us 500 -600k which is not up to 400 dollars now. Fintechs also pay that range or less. To make a million you need to work for more than two at a time which is very stressful and challenging

I see. But Tensazangetsu20 has shared the experiences of few tech bros he knows who work as permanent staff in some Nigerian banks. They make big bucks. Also, I've read the benefits attached to some of the job ads - they really look exclusive. The reason could be that the tech retrenchment over the last one made employers choosy and reduced their renumeration perks.

Gerrard59:
His "problem" has been with the recent influx of Nigerian immigrants into the UK. Simple. Also, he seems to have an issue with successful young Nigerians residing abroad who don't support the way things are in Nigeria. To him, everyone should be "patriotic" just as he's - a typical APC supporter mentality.

My problem with you guys is talking down a country whose passport you hold.

Stop cursing the country. Stop being happy when you see things not working.

At the end of the day, you can never be accepted where you are eyeing.

Do constructive criticism.

Either you make or not, it is not my problem. Respect your own country of birth. Stop acting like a bastard

MT:
My problem with you guys is talking down a country whose passport you hold.

Stop cursing the country. Stop being happy when you see things not working.

At the end of the day, you can never be accepted where you are eyeing.

Do constructive criticism.

Either you make or not, it is not my problem. Respect your own country of birth. Stop acting like a bastard

I know Nigeria is not where it should be but i won't say bad about the country because i know it holds lot of potentials. We have issues of bad leadership but we have great abd resourceful people.

So its best we dont speak bad about our motherland irrespective of where we find our selves

PEACE2023:
Another British slave celebrating in his captives soil. Ewu

I thought u have brain when u posted a thread about ur friend leaving now i understand how u got that job.

femi4:
It's not about learning how to drive, it's about passing the driving test cos uk driving system is another kettle of fish. They driving on the right, many crazy round abouts, road marking speed limits and road signs

Imagine someone who dont know how to drive in Nigeria going to learn manual driving in uk.. He got to book over 40hrs and above driving test to get a clue. Per hr is 35 to 40.

fullclub:
Will add more here as a remember.. Please don't mind the little errors in my typo.. I was at work when i drafted that.

Meanwhile some are shouting there are no jobs…DONT JAPA!

fullclub:
I know Nigeria is not where it should be but i won't say bad about the country because i know it holds lot of potentials. We have issues of bad leadership but we have great abd resourceful people.

So its best we dont speak bad about our motherland irrespective of where we find our selves

God bless you RICHLY.

fullclub:
Imagine someone who dont know how to drive in Nigeria going to learn manual driving in uk.. He got to book over 40hrs and above driving test to get a clue. Per hr is 35 to 40.

You don't even need to learn manual, there is license for automatic drivers

2. You can't maintain car in the UK if don't have steady job. MOT, Insurance road tax etc are paid monthly unlike in Nigeria where you pay once

3. Parking space: You can't just park anywhere. Some houses don't have parking space, if you park anywhere, you ll get a ticket

esiri4jesu:
Is nigeria driver's license valid in the UK?

Yes for just 12 months of first arrival

fullclub:
I know Nigeria is not where it should be but i won't say bad about the country because i know it holds lot of potentials. We have issues of bad leadership but we have great abd resourceful people.

So its best we dont speak bad about our motherland irrespective of where we find our selves

I read ur post but I feel u could av let them know the role dependant played in u being more stable ....

Congratulations🤝

fullclub:
I know Nigeria is not where it should be but i won't say bad about the country because i know it holds lot of potentials. We have issues of bad leadership but we have great abd resourceful people.

So it’s best we dont speak bad about our motherland irrespective of where we find our selves

I totally agree with you, Nigeria will be great someday!

MT:
Nigeria runs capitalist economy, Uk runs mixed economy. Compare likes to likes. More so, UK is cutting a lot of the excesses of their citizens in form of benefits. Lot of people are being thrown into poverty and lamenting.

Success is inbuilt and not a function of location. If you still see success as a function of location, there is a problem.

Wow!
So on point @ the second paragraph

tensazangetsu20:
Okay i am in the mood now.

Attached is my first contract for an automotive manufacturer in the US I work for remotely

I make 4000 usd a month from that job. I have a second part time job with a company from the dominican republic which i make 2500 usd a month equivalently and my last job which i just got recently is with the chilean state bank where i earn 2.6 million pesos which comes down to around 3000 usd a month. I am also attaching a screenshot of my taxes which I pay from my american job. We no be mates.

You can see that my tax payments coincides with when i got my first remote job as I pay 3 taxes in chile but one of them is as an independent contractor which I need to file for every month F29. My total taxes every month is around 1.3 million chilean pesos. Many chileans dont even earn above 500000 pesos.

I still have another part time job I don't even wanna talk about and I am also trying to get an offer with another bank. My dms have been a mess since I started working for the Chilean state bank

Hey boss ... Are these web development jobs?

Thank God for you brother.

Mine to come soon Insha Allah.

bigtt76:
Convert the proceed of the sale into pounds and see how much it comes to, not sure the 3000 pounds plus you realise would lead you anyway where though.

Thanks boss

Is it the zoo?

tensazangetsu20:
Lol living in Nigeria is harder than lion and tiger and dragon combined.

tensazangetsu20:
Good thing that you found a job and stuck to it. Your life would have been completely finished if you had decided to go back to Nigeria. Nigeria is finished at the moment and the worst is yet to come.

Point of correction. Nigeria is not finished atleast we are surviving. God bless naija.🤔

fullclub:
Forklifts, security, care training, cscs card etc.
Depending on which pathway you chose to follow

How easy it is for someone to become an operator e.g excavator, bulldozer or grader??

MT:
You just drifted into UK space. It is early days.

Like I earlier stated, life is all about perspectives. You are focusing on the benefits system. Do you know how people and govt view people that are on benefit? They are considered a drag to the system and are denied many things by the govt. For instance, they are not allowed to invite anyone to the UK.

Do you know why UK is looking for highly skilled individuals? Because they do not want people with such benefit mentality in their system. They want individuals who can add measurable values into their environments. If you have real value, visa will never be a problem for you in any part of the world. If you are still celebrating getting a visa, then something is wrong with your value system. It should be a breeze. I found it shocking that a lot of people would pay thousands of pounds just to get a visa into another country, pretending to be a student but their main focus is to just get into western world. What a waste of resources!

Some people are making over 500 pounds per DAY, you are referencing a paltry Benefit System. You are standing on a wrong leg.

Again, do you now see why I mentioned that life was about perspective?

Please note that there is extreme poverty in Nigeria and the collapse of d naira, irregularities and inconsistency in policy of government has reduced Nig tp next to nothing.

So we are struggling to find a way out to at least have a better taste of what life is.

afroxyz:
I hope you're not planning to be applying on benefits? Nobody gets rich on benefits. It is a poverty sinkhole that once you start, it would be difficult to stop.

Am not entitled to that am not a citizen yet

MT:
My problem with you guys is talking down a country whose passport you hold.

Stop cursing the country. Stop being happy when you see things not working.

At the end of the day, you can never be accepted where you are eyeing.

Do constructive criticism.

Either you make or not, it is not my problem. Respect your own country of birth. Stop acting like a bastard

You are talking arrant nonsense. If I had my way, I will w even do more than talking down. I have even consider being stateless but for the purpose of traveling, I had to retain that useless passport otherwise I would have disposed it honestly. Is there any top Nigeria elite that doesn't have a second passport? You can be deceiving yourself not me

Nigeria is proper shithole that should be consigned to the dustbin of history.

A country that massacred 3 million of my people and decimated our wealth by giving my fathers 20 pounds and up till this moment, there's no date officially set aside as remembrance day. The Nigeria state has moved on as usual when they commit atrocities.

A full banana republic where people can break the law and tell you confidently to go to court. Justice is only available to the highest bidder and most political connected.

A country with 20 million kids out of school. Basic education system is in shambles and teachers are paid peanuts despite their dedication to teaching students.

Should I speak about the comatose health sector and poor primary healthcare facilities? A useless country with high infant mortality rate almost twice the global average. Tueh

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/

A useless nation with oil and gas reserves but can't even meet OPEC production quota of 1.7mbpd. fun fact:Iraq is doing 4mbpd+. Can't generate, transmit and distribute enough power for its citizens. Has the lowest per capita energy consumption on a global stage. Your current 4000MW can't power Bayer AG facility in Leverkusen.

Ranked 4th on the global most terrorised country following strongly countries like Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.

Only one functional commercial seaport since independence despite having 700km coastal line, dilapidated federal and local roads, no significant improvement on rail infra Brits built to export resources since 1960. Did a waybill recently and a previous journey by road for 10hrs, took 17hrs. Tufiakwa

A proper disgrace that will come to an end by 2030, A FAILED STATE.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA543719

Tufiakwa.

When you guys are done wasting everyone's time, make Una revisit the Aburi Accord before it's too late. Thank you

lastkingsman:
You are talking arrant nonsense. If I had my way, I will w even do more than talking down. I have even consider being stateless but for the purpose of traveling, I had to retain that useless passport otherwise I would have disposed it honestly. Is there any top Nigeria elite that doesn't have a second passport? You can be deceiving yourself not me

Nigeria is proper shithole that should be consigned to the dustbin of history.

A country that massacred 3 million of my people and decimated our wealth by giving my fathers 20 pounds and up till this moment, there's no date officially set aside as remembrance day. The Nigeria state has moved on as usual when they commit atrocities.

A full banana republic where people can break the law and tell you confidently to go to court. Justice is only available to the highest bidder and most political connected.

A country with 20 million kids out of school. Basic education system is in shambles and teachers are paid peanuts despite their dedication to teaching students.

Should I speak about the comatose health sector and poor primary healthcare facilities? A useless country with high infant mortality rate almost twice the global average. Tueh

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/

A useless nation with oil and gas reserves but can't even meet OPEC production quota of 1.7mbpd. fun fact:Iraq is doing 4mbpd+. Can't generate, transmit and distribute enough power for its citizens. Has the lowest per capita energy consumption on a global stage. Your current 4000MW can't power Bayer AG facility in Leverkusen.

Ranked 4th on the global most terrorised country following strongly countries like Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.

Only one functional commercial seaport since independence despite having 700km coastal line, dilapidated federal and local roads, no significant improvement on rail infra Brits built to export resources since 1960. Did a waybill recently and a previous journey by road for 10hrs, took 17hrs. Tufiakwa

A proper disgrace that will come to an end by 2030, A FAILED STATE.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA543719

Tufiakwa.

When you guys are done wasting everyone's time, make Una revisit the Aburi Accord before it's too late. Thank you

I swear that guy is a real unfortunate APC supporter. He can still take all those rubbish based on 30K wey APC dey pay am per month.

People just need the leave Nigeria to know how miserable life has been for them to be honest.

Europe, Canada, America and other societies are not perfect, they have their flaws, things are not easy. But to be honest all Nigerian politicians and their supporters should be mobbed by the masses. These unfortunate politicians have turned the country into living hell and it is quite dishearting that an unfortunate human being like that guy still support them.

Look at the level of inflation, increase in electricity tarrif, increase in school fees, to eat naa problem, fuel no dey, kidnapping, banditry. Yet politicians are borrowing more money buying presidential YATCH, JET, buying SUVs with billions of niara, increasing politician salary and the masses cannot afford 3 square meal a day. Yet this unfortunate bastard dey ask for constructive criticism.

I hardly want to think about the country these days coz he just dey make me vex that the citizens have been turned into a slave in their own country and the politicians are trying every possible best to make the situation of the masses worse.

fullclub:
Please note that there is extreme poverty in Nigeria and the collapse of d naira, irregularities and inconsistency in policy of government has reduced Nig tp next to nothing.

So we are struggling to find a way out to at least have a better taste of what life is.

Naa to curse that guy. He be APC miscreant paid 30K every month to defend them on all social media platform.

lastkingsman:
A country that massacred 3 million of my people and decimated our wealth by giving my fathers 20 pounds and up till this moment, there's no date officially set aside as remembrance day. The Nigeria state has moved on as usual when they commit atrocities.

When you guys are done wasting everyone's time, make Una revisit the Aburi Accord before it's too late. Thank you

Sir I feel your pain. I mourn the losses of our people. What you need to do is to revisit the history and thoroughly examine cause and effect. So we can all contribute to making better decisions in the future.

Before Aburi there was Lancaster House. Before the casualties of the Civil War there were the victims of illegal military violence. Before Biafra there was Niger Delta Republic.
We ALL need to start being honest about our history.

Always remember there is nothing like fuel subsidy. It never existed, Nigeria never had fuel subsidy. That's also a truth.

tensazangetsu20:
I can brag. If its easy let them do it. Leaving Nigeria to a new country, a country that people don't even know or rate. Learning a new language and getting elite jobs all in one year. Anyone can do it, its a free world. The only job I speak english is my american job all my other jobs are completely in spanish. So you can figure out the level of spanish I had to have to get my jobs and I am still studying o and I will graduate with distinction too

You've always made a good and serious impression on me. I wish you all the best and more success in the future. May your journeys always take you to a place of joy.

Adonisty:
How many folks have these privilege you re talking about. There is a high barrier for entry level folks here in the tech field. Those guys doesn't represent the sample of space of Nigerian job seekers in the tech industry.

That's the real question. Real world question.

Gerrard59:
I see. But Tensazangetsu20 has shared the experiences of few tech bros he knows who work as permanent staff in some Nigerian banks. They make big bucks. Also, I've read the benefits attached to some of the job ads - they really look exclusive. The reason could be that the tech retrenchment over the last one made employers choosy and reduced their renumeration perks.

The entire Nigerian economy is in serious retrenchment mode. Yes there are people making big money in Nigeria...and also in Haiti, Lebanon and Somalia. The question is always HOW MANY PEOPLE and how easy is it to get the job or run the business. You're discussing permanent staff. Chevron Nigeria has only 600 permanent positions in Nigeria. The entire crude oil & natural gas industry is contracting, people are losing jobs, closing businesses and fleeing abroad.

Maybe this is the bottom point 🤔 We'll see.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

oyeb15:
How can one use like 40million plus travel and hustle in another country.

With that money, I can live a quiet peaceful life in Nigeria with little investment.

It's possible to invest ₦40 million or $25K in a Nigerian business venture and achieve a good middle class lifestyle in say 2 to 5 years, but VERY UNLIKELY.

That is to say the odds are not good. Nigeria is a very expensive country and the economy is in a very poor state. A few weeks ago I was telling the story here of a wealthy kinsman who posted details of a building he put up 10 years ago with £200K and he's collecting £120 rent every 6 months, call it £250 per year. Yes.

You can go read these things in Nigerian business news sources yet people still come on here touting Nigerian Real Estate as some sort of gold mine.

I'm not rich so I can't denigrate ₦40 million. What I do know from hard won, bitter EXPERIENCE is that Nigeria is a very difficult business environment. Most businesses will not survive for long.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Calitoscassius:
very nicely put. I take it you live in Japan?

Yes.

fullclub:
I will really appreciate it if you can open a thread on your Japanese japa, how the going has been, school work etc.

Thanks brother

I already narrated my job-hunting experience here: https://www.nairaland.com/7788707/memoirs-chile/49#130041370

As for migrating to Japan, there is already a semi-active thread. Anyone interested should read from the beginning and ask specific questions and I would be glad to respond to the best of my knowledge: https://www.nairaland.com/2655545/japanese-visa-travelling-japan/40