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What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 7:41am On Dec 05, 2019
What is the difference between Christ dying for us (Rom. 5:cool and Christ dying for our sins (1 Cor. 15:3)?
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ochibuogwu5: 9:08am On Dec 05, 2019
Christ Jesus died on our behalf when he was crucified because God has made every human being *a sinner* so that he can show every human being *his mercy through the death of His Son on Calvary for all human being*(Romans 11:32) thus "this is the *grace of God* that Jesus tasted death for every human being*" (Hebrews 2:9) hence the death of Jesus Christ has cleansed us from all unrighteousness with his blood* and *destroyed that nature inside human being which can produce sin(the flesh)* and *replaced our destroyed/crucified/dead flesh with his own flesh* which produces holiness, righteousness, love, joy, peace, patience e.t.c *consistently till eternity* which is the new living way (Hebrews 10:19:23) thus "It is God at work inside you *now both to will and do his good pleasures*" (Phil.2:13)
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by MuttleyLaff:
ichuka:
What is the difference between Christ dying for us Rom. 5:8 and Christ dying for our sins (1 Cor. 15:3)?
"But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
- Romans 5:8

"For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,"
- 1 Corinthians 15:3

The two verses, essentially both are communcating the same thing ichuka, there is no difference as such between them.

What did Christ die for? He died for our sins. Why did Christ die for us. He died for us because we are sinners, so the underlining common denominator in both Romans 5:8 and 1 Corinthians 15:3 is sin then. It is about tackling sin. Christ died and died for us because of our sins
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by Aspiringstudent: 10:00am On Dec 05, 2019
ochibuogwu5:
Christ Jesus died on our behalf when he was crucified because God has made every human being *a sinner* so that he can show every human being *his mercy through the death of His Son on Calvary for all human being*(Romans 11:32) thus "this is the *grace of God* that Jesus tasted death for every human being*" (Hebrews 2:9) hence the death of Jesus Christ has cleansed us from all unrighteousness with his blood* and *destroyed that nature inside human being which can produce sin(the flesh)* and *replaced our destroyed/crucified/dead flesh with his own flesh* which produces holiness, righteousness, love, joy, peace, patience e.t.c *consistently till eternity* which is the new living way (Hebrews 10:19:23) thus "It is God at work inside you *now both to will and do his good pleasures*" (Phil.2:13)
You don't have a brain.... God made everyone a sinner,,, does that makes sense to youhuh He then decided to wash off the sin nobody commited in the first place with the death of his son (who is just like me and you) ...
You religious people are retarded as fvvck, damn.

Your imaginary God he's displaying lunacy not trying to show us he's mercifull ...
If God decided to make everyone a sinner, then those that died without hearing about Jesus died a sinner, and according to your book every sinner will be eternally burned LMAO.

Jesus's death on the Calvary has washed off the nature that makes people do evil.... Hitler was a goat then, IDi amin was a monkey.... Like bad people do not exist anymore, your fictional Jesus died for nothing lol.
I will be ashamed of myself if I were you.
You have a brain but it's useless.
Keep quoting bible don't use logic.
I don't hate Christians or any other people of other religion, I just hate people who do not think,cowardice people.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ochibuogwu5: 1:39pm On Dec 05, 2019
Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ochibuogwu5: 1:45pm On Dec 05, 2019
For those who died without hearing about Jesus Christ Crucified
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, *but quickened by the Spirit:* 3:19 *By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison*; 3:20 Which *sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah*, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ochibuogwu5: 1:48pm On Dec 05, 2019
For your logic and brain use:
"1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God *the world by wisdom knew not God*, *it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.*
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 7:08pm On Dec 05, 2019
What is the difference between Christ dying for us (Rom. 5:cool and Christ dying for our sins (1 Cor. 15:3)?

The meaning of Christ dying for us is that Christ died for us as sinners. The purpose of His death was to save us, the sinners. We were gained and delivered from ourselves as a result of Christ’s accomplishment for us.

The meaning of Christ dying for our sins is that Christ died for the sins which we, the sinners, have committed. The purpose of this was to remove the record of our sins and deliver us from the punishment and power of sin so that our sins could be forgiven and we could be freed from sin’s dominion.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 7:12pm On Dec 05, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
"But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
- Romans 5:8

"For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,"
- 1 Corinthians 15:3

The two verses, essentially both are communcating the same thing ichuka, there is no difference as such between them.

What did Christ die for? He died for our sins. Why did Christ die for us. He died for us because we are sinners, so the underlining common denominator in both Romans 5:8 and 1 Corinthians 15:3 is sin then. It is about tackling sin. Christ died and died for us because of our sins
You are right bro
It's like a coin which always have two sides.
One side is the sinner and the other is the sins committed by the sinner.
He died for both.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 8:58pm On May 14, 2022
Amen
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 8:52pm On Oct 26, 2024
Praise God
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by sonmvayina(m): 9:20pm On Oct 26, 2024
A father can't be put to death for the sins of his son.
A son can't be put to death for the sins of the father...
A man dying for the sin of another goes against natural justice. If it does not work with man, it certainly won't work with God...

A human sacrifice for sin belongs to the realm of Lucifer. It is an abomination in the site of God..when he sent Jonah to Ninevah to preach to them. They repented of their sins and God forgave them. No human or animal sacrifice was needed or required..
All he desires is a sincere repentance and he would forgive. Except you want to advice God that his solution is not sufficient..Then take it up with him. If God says if I repent, he would forgive me..I think I am ok with that. It is the same God who said "Thou shall not kill"..He is not turning around to use the death of a human being as a "get out of jail card"....that is in the realm of Lucifer...
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by AntiChristian: 7:03am On Oct 27, 2024
sonmvayina:
A father can't be put to death for the sins of his son.
A son can't be put to death for the sins of the father...
A man dying for the sin of another goes against natural justice. If it does not work with man, it certainly won't work with God...

A human sacrifice for sin belongs to the realm of Lucifer. It is an abomination in the site of God..when he sent Jonah to Ninevah to preach to them. They repented of their sins and God forgave them. No human or animal sacrifice was needed or required..
All he desires is a sincere repentance and he would forgive. Except you want to advice God that his solution is not sufficient..Then take it up with him. If God says if I repent, he would forgive me..I think I am ok with that. It is the same God who said "Thou shall not kill"..He is not turning around to use the death of a human being as a "get out of jail card"....that is in the realm of Lucifer...
Allah does not require of any soul more than what it can afford. All good will be for its own benefit, and all evil will be to its own loss. Jesus will answer for his own matters while we all will answer for our own!
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 7:08am On Oct 27, 2024
sonmvayina:
A father can't be put to death for the sins of his son.
A son can't be put to death for the sins of the father...
A man dying for the sin of another goes against natural justice. If it does not work with man, it certainly won't work with God...

A human sacrifice for sin belongs to the realm of Lucifer. It is an abomination in the site of God..when he sent Jonah to Ninevah to preach to them. They repented of their sins and God forgave them. No human or animal sacrifice was needed or required..
All he desires is a sincere repentance and he would forgive. Except you want to advice God that his solution is not sufficient..Then take it up with him. If God says if I repent, he would forgive me..I think I am ok with that. It is the same God who said "Thou shall not kill"..He is not turning around to use the death of a human being as a "get out of jail card"....that is in the realm of Lucifer...
Dude, without the shading of blood there's no forgiveness of sin.
Hebrew9:22..In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by sonmvayina(m): 2:24pm On Oct 27, 2024
ichuka:
Dude, without the shading of blood there's no forgiveness of sin.
Hebrew9:22..In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
That is what Paul said...
It is a cult thing. It got nothing to do with God..
It is not God's position.
It was a cult like free masons....

It got nothing whatsoever to do with God.
He abhors human sacrifice...is he not the one who created humans. Why would you kill anyone for him? Does it really make any sense?
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by sonmvayina(m): 2:28pm On Oct 27, 2024
AntiChristian:
Allah does not require of any soul more than what it can afford. All good will be for its own benefit, and all evil will be to its own loss. Jesus will answer for his own matters while we all will answer for our own!
I did not say anything about Allah.
Allah is the moon God Nanna/sin..he is the god of darkness...not the creator of the universe.
That the cult of Allah became a dominant force in arabia is nobody's fault.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 5:28pm On Oct 27, 2024
sonmvayina:
That is what Paul said...
It is a cult thing. It got nothing to do with God..
It is not God's position.
It was a cult like free masons....

It got nothing whatsoever to do with God.
He abhors human sacrifice...is he not the one who created humans. Why would you kill anyone for him? Does it really make any sense?
Ok
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by AntiChristian: 1:47pm On Oct 28, 2024
sonmvayina:
I did not say anything about Allah.
Allah is the moon God Nanna/sin..he is the god of darkness...not the creator of the universe.
That the cult of Allah became a dominant force in arabia is nobody's fault.
That's your own concocted version of Allah which contradicts what Allah says in:

1. Qur'an 21:33 - And He (Allah) it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.

2. Qur'an 7:54 - Indeed your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He Istawa (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by sonmvayina(m): 2:37pm On Oct 28, 2024
AntiChristian:
That's your own concocted version of Allah which contradicts what Allah says in:

1. Qur'an 21:33 - And He (Allah) it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.

2. Qur'an 7:54 - Indeed your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He Istawa (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!
You have been deceived...

Wake up...
Allah is Nanna/Sin the moon God. It is just the Arabians who elevated him to that position. He does not create anything.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by AntiChristian: 2:49pm On Oct 28, 2024
sonmvayina:
You have been deceived...

Wake up...
Allah is Nanna/Sin the moon God. It is just the Arabians who elevated him to that position. He does not create anything.
grin

I quoted what Allah says and you will be giving me evidences from wikipedia or where that Allah is otherwise! And make i believe you?

Once again, Allah is above His throne over the heavens Qur'an 20:5!
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by sonmvayina(m): 4:06pm On Oct 29, 2024
AntiChristian:
grin

I quoted what Allah says and you will be giving me evidences from wikipedia or where that Allah is otherwise! And make i believe you?

Once again, Allah is above His throne over the heavens Qur'an 20:5!
That makes Allah the moon God...
That is his domain..
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by AntiChristian: 5:12pm On Oct 29, 2024
sonmvayina:
That makes Allah the moon God...
That is his domain..
So the moon God created the moon and everything that exists right?

How does that make sense to you?
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by sonmvayina(m): 6:36pm On Oct 29, 2024
AntiChristian:
So the moon God created the moon and everything that exists right?

How does that make sense to you?
Well, that is what the people who wrote the Quran want you to know, it is all deception..
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by AntiChristian: 5:52am On Oct 30, 2024
sonmvayina:
Well, that is what the people who wrote the Quran want you to know, it is all deception..
I can say that of your Wikipedia and other sources too! Your Wikipedia ain't no revelation!

Nothing more to say!
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by sonmvayina(m): 3:51pm On Oct 30, 2024
AntiChristian:
I can say that of your Wikipedia and other sources too! Your Wikipedia ain't no revelation!

Nothing more to say!
People actually study this things.
They made the connection..
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by KnownUnknown: 4:17pm On Oct 30, 2024
ichuka:
What is the difference between Christ dying for us (Rom. 5:cool and Christ dying for our sins (1 Cor. 15:3)?
Pssst. Let me tell you a little secret: There is no such thing as sin.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Christ Dying For Us And Christ Dying For Our Sin by ichuka(op): 7:58pm On Oct 30, 2024
KnownUnknown:
Pssst. Let me tell you a little secret: There is no such thing as sin.
Hmm,ok
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