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Gerrard59:
Yes.


I already narrated my job-hunting experience here: https://www.nairaland.com/7788707/memoirs-chile/49#130041370

As for migrating to Japan, there is already a semi-active thread. Anyone interested should read from the beginning and ask specific questions and I would be glad to respond to the best of my knowledge: https://www.nairaland.com/2655545/japanese-visa-travelling-japan/40

IbeOkehie:
Lancaster House.

) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.

tensazangetsu20:
I can brag. If its easy let them do it. Leaving Nigeria to a new country, a country that people don't even know or rate. Learning a new language and getting elite jobs all in one year. Anyone can do it, its a free world. The only job I speak english is my american job all my other jobs are completely in spanish. So you can figure out the level of spanish I had to have to get my jobs and I am still studying o and I will graduate with distinction too

femi4:
You don't even need to learn manual, there is license for automatic drivers

2. You can't maintain car in the UK if don't have steady job. MOT, Insurance road tax etc are paid monthly unlike in Nigeria where you pay once

3. Parking space: You can't just park anywhere. Some houses don't have parking space, if you park anywhere, you ll get a ticket

islamics:
Sir, please do you have any resources/pointer to the above.

Your continuous repetition of it has made me curious to want to read about it. What I got from Google search is not yielding much; just some few paragraphs in Wikipedia and some site; nothing detailed.

fullclub:
I know what i wrote i know how many jobs i lost due my not having a car innit.

Care COS now if u have a car u go see cos dormicilliary is sure.....

You could be driving for companies who want u to move cash, companies that need u to deliver office files, goods etc with official office car or van and u need manual driving licence for this roles.

You could work as a site emergency respondant. You can work as warfare check on site etc.. Basic requirements for all this jobs are car.

Pay might be poor.. 11.44 but u could do 60hrs in a week thats 2700+ before tax.

As a new comma car is neccessary for immediate start of getting job maybe u came through skill visa that's another lane.
Am talking of students n dependant who comes with job hunting as soon as possible

tommy589:
I guess this is what he meant

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancaster_House_Conferences_(Nigeria)

https://thecrestng.com/2019/03/08/from-the-archives-why-i-opposed-secession-dr-nnamdi-azikiwe/

Gerrard59:
Congratulations to OP. I am really for you as I know it must have been a huge struggle to pull through.

As for the back-biting, I am not surprised as I have stated here that the older generation in the UK seems to be annoyed or envious (how easy the immigrant routes are these days) of recent migrants. Also, they have this classist mentality that "I have been here before you. So know your place". This is largely mired in poverty as it applies to other migrants from the developing world. Although, a way to counter such is to tighten the immigration system so that only the best and brightest have access to the country. Such as legal immigration to the US and Singapore. Indians in the US are highly respected than their counterparts in Canada.

As for people making it in Nigeria, that is very true. There are people who have very high-paying jobs in Nigeria and live very well (legal money). However, their conditions cannot be used to describe the entire Nigeria. I recall my ex-boss lamenting about Nigeria's politicians, people he praised regularly when he used the roads to his state or somewhere in Kogi. He was shocked at how dangerous the roads were. This is someone who rarely leaves Lagos without flying. This is the same mistake this new set of elites make every day - siddon for Lagos and Abuja then christen everyone in Nigeria as "doing well". To be fair though, I don't expect any less from APC supporters. The reason I don't debate the state of Nigeria with them. Although, I still believe Nigeria holds more entrepreneurial economic opportunities than most countries in Africa aside from South Africa. However, it is important to state that Nigeria goes beyond Lagos and Abuja at least for economic reasons.

The last two years must have been tough for Nigerian students in the UK (especially older ones who are married and with children). As I have stated countless times, should the economy get to pre-2015 levels, MANY Nigerians would gladly return. Many would still return anyway but at a later date. Reading their stories further makes me to be grateful towards the Japanese. I was so pampered and afforded ample financial and economic opportunities here. To be fair though, I had the requisite experience from Nigeria, attended a top university here, worked on the language and I am unmarried with no children. Nevertheless, the Japanese have been so good to me, and I deeply appreciate it.

MT:
My problem with you guys is talking down a country whose passport you hold.

Stop cursing the country. Stop being happy when you see things not working.

At the end of the day, you can never be accepted where you are eyeing.

Do constructive criticism.

Either you make or not, it is not my problem. Respect your own country of birth. Stop acting like a bastard

advanceDNA:
Ur summary is that ....it might be hard, but still Japa...u will eventually be alright..(as long as u dont die first )

femi4:
You didn't know what you write. You are not the only naija in uk. Stop capping

I didn't drag not having a car with you, just letting you know why some chose not to have one

2. And that you can drive with uk automatic driving license cos your post was all about manual

islamics:
Yes. I have already read through the two link you posted but can't really infer much. The wiki link only highlighted the delegate abi na those who represented various region in the meeting. Then the second link is a reported opinion about secession from azikiwe.

Then, if you have been following ibechris for a while, I don't think you would be able to infer anything from the two link based on how he has mentioned the Lancaster House conference stuff in various context.

fullclub:
You can't shut me... I chose to write soo u can leave the thread.



Owning a car in uk is beneficial n outweigh the cost.. Just get a car of 2013 to 2015 ur road tax reduces to 30 pounds per month... So what the hell are u talking about.

Take a back sit bro

fullclub:
Let's say thank God i had extra funds if not i sold properties to pay fees at some point the school would have sent me back which was my initial worry. Because i wont sell any property as i have sold enough. But at a point i just have to give in

femi4:
I never shut you, I corrected the error in your post. Humble yourself and accept correction. This is not a beer parlour where you ll just come and drop lamba and everyone will consume it just like that. Embrace your L and run along

intruder15:
I am curious to know why you didn't have your school fees complete before leaving Nigeria.

OkanlawonB:
The OP is more than right on the big advantage of having a driver`s licence and knowing how to drive as a new comer into the UK, it aids you in getting a job more quickly and easily.

Although you may need to study and master UK`s Right Hand driving environment for a while so that you don`t get into unexpected problems as a newbee in a new environment.

lastkingsman:
You are talking arrant nonsense. If I had my way, I will w even do more than talking down. I have even consider being stateless but for the purpose of traveling, I had to retain that useless passport otherwise I would have disposed it honestly. Is there any top Nigeria elite that doesn't have a second passport? You can be deceiving yourself not me

Nigeria is proper shithole that should be consigned to the dustbin of history.

A country that massacred 3 million of my people and decimated our wealth by giving my fathers 20 pounds and up till this moment, there's no date officially set aside as remembrance day. The Nigeria state has moved on as usual when they commit atrocities.

A full banana republic where people can break the law and tell you confidently to go to court. Justice is only available to the highest bidder and most political connected.

A country with 20 million kids out of school. Basic education system is in shambles and teachers are paid peanuts despite their dedication to teaching students.

Should I speak about the comatose health sector and poor primary healthcare facilities? A useless country with high infant mortality rate almost twice the global average. Tueh

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/

A useless nation with oil and gas reserves but can't even meet OPEC production quota of 1.7mbpd. fun fact:Iraq is doing 4mbpd+. Can't generate, transmit and distribute enough power for its citizens. Has the lowest per capita energy consumption on a global stage. Your current 4000MW can't power Bayer AG facility in Leverkusen.

Ranked 4th on the global most terrorised country following strongly countries like Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.

Only one functional commercial seaport since independence despite having 700km coastal line, dilapidated federal and local roads, no significant improvement on rail infra Brits built to export resources since 1960. Did a waybill recently and a previous journey by road for 10hrs, took 17hrs. Tufiakwa

A proper disgrace that will come to an end by 2030, A FAILED STATE.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA543719

Tufiakwa.

When you guys are done wasting everyone's time, make Una revisit the Aburi Accord before it's too late. Thank you

tommy589:
I want to limit my understanding of Lancaster to the context of his response to a post on this thread.His reply provided an insightful historical background that preceded recent call for loose federation

Gerrard59:
Yes.


I already narrated my job-hunting experience here: https://www.nairaland.com/7788707/memoirs-chile/49#130041370

As for migrating to Japan, there is already a semi-active thread. Anyone interested should read from the beginning and ask specific questions and I would be glad to respond to the best of my knowledge: https://www.nairaland.com/2655545/japanese-visa-travelling-japan/40

tosinhtml:
That comment on memoirs-chile original post should have been a post on its own because it is packed with loads of info, I'm just seeing it for the first time and I have a question. So which area of tech did you eventually opt for, I see that you avoided Cyber Security (Thanks to your friend). It's a career path that is highly spoken of online but can waste your time so much in reality. I advice everyone to run from it too as it requires tons of certifications to even have a decent job.

Gerrard59:
I left tech entirely as it wasn't part of my aspirations in this country and the wider region. I only envisaged it as it is the easiest path to a good job without having to know or speak Japanese. Instead, I focused on improving my Japanese and utilising my academic degree (science research oriented) and experience from Nigeria (sales/consulting) to get a job. I got two offers: one based on my academic degree and the other based on my previous Nigerian work experience. The latter offer came before the former as I went for the final interview after I had signed the earlier offer. Got the academic degree-inclined offer, but later declined it. Improving my Japanese was the masterstroke as I left it quite late to commence job hunting. Thanks to Tensa20 who woke me up with the sentence "If you don't start job hunting on time, your visa will expire. Then see you, see Tinubu".

And yes, while cybersecurity is a good and highly lucrative field, it requires time and expensive certifications. It is a sub-field tech bros can later switch to cement job security, but it isn't too favourable for a tyro. Also, the most lucrative aspects have security clearance such that only citizens are desired. But it is a sub-field that pays very high here with limited competition. With those certifications, any cybersecurity professional would be so spoilt for jobs.

fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) To all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

8.) life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.

Midex88:
Thanks for the advise, planning to move to the Uk, pls can you elaborate slightly on what you meant by envious users.

pussyAvenger:
how much is your tuition..in naira?

Kelechi009:
Me, I did that years ago. I still use Upwork now to earn & I have a Transfer Wise dollar account so my money can be moved any where without taxes killing it.

fullclub:
Ok... What are you doing on upwork. Like which area of specialisation

Gerrard59:
My friendship with Tensazangetsu20 is based on trust and freedom of expression aka Say As It's. Between ourselves, we've shared our job hunting struggles and wins. I've seen his pay slips and employment letters. He started with less than a $3K per month remote job, but now has two more jobs with the most recent being with The State Bank of Chile. Altogether his earnings is more than $10K per month. Trust me when I say he's living an extremely comfortable life in Chile.

cc: motymop & press9jatv

RodgersAkpafu:
Care COS is a destroyer of lives and destinies
After doing masters person go come dey find care COS? lol

Well life is about choices