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Biodun556:
Pls send him back to South Africa or Nigeria if you don't want him

What Elon musk achieve in few years of space exploration is beyond what NASA achieved in decades

RodgersAkpafu:
I remember
he was talking to the Finland Prime minister and when he mentioned it , my mouth dropped

I was like
This guy is crazy
He clearly stated he wanted to open the door for Nordics and close the door to the global south (which btw is his perogative and is not really morally wrong)

But be honest about your white supremacist stance, and that's why I like Trumo and Musk, even though they are two animals
They wear white supremacy on their sleevea

Biodun556:
Pls send him back to South Africa or Nigeria if you don't want him

What Elon musk achieve in few years of space exploration is beyond what NASA achieved in decades

naijapips04:
Is Joe now admitting that illegal immigrants already in the country are breaking the law? Dementia Joe should go and rest.

IjeBos:
Exactly.
Good Memory.

I appreciate that about him as well. He is who he says he is, which allowed people who used to pretend to come out in the open as well. Made it easier to prune my friend circle.

IjeBos:
Once you are our of status you are illegal.
He came on a student Visa. He was out of status once he left school and started working illegaly.
His employer and his brother admitted it.
Can you stop spreading this lie.

Odidigboigbo:
Mind you, Musk is Canadian as well. He came to USA as Canadian Citizen. Not the same immigration law that applies to Canadians that applies to Africans. He graduated from University of Pennsylvania and applied for his PhD in Stanford before he dropped out to focus on his software company, Zip2. If he has committed a crime against the American immigration law as Biden want us to believe, they would have deported him, because Americans don't joke with their laws irrespective of who you are.

Originalsly:
That was when the South Americans were trooping in in their "Caravans".

flyinnizam:
old biden should keep quiet. if Elon Musk was an illegal migrant, he won't be talking about illegal migrants all the time

RodgersAkpafu:
Sorry, there is no excuse for white supremacy
the same way there is no excuse for tribalism , bigotry or religious zealotry

And from your post, I see what you r doing,
you are trying to allude that Black people cannot build functional societies, which is not true, and is peak cooning

Tulsa and Botswana are two of many examples of what Black people are capable of doing IF LEFT ALONE TO SORT THEIR ISSUES
even Trinidad is doin decently today

we both know what happened to Tulsa (the riots and the burning down of the place )
Rosewood nko, Wilmington North Carolina?

It's not black and white

RodgersAkpafu:
I remember
he was talking to the Finland Prime minister and when he mentioned it , my mouth dropped

I was like
This guy is crazy
He clearly stated he wanted to open the door for Nordics and close the door to the global south (which btw is his perogative and is not really morally wrong)

But be honest about your white supremacist stance, and that's why I like Trumo and Musk, even though they are two animals
They wear white supremacy on their sleevea

Odidigboigbo:
Mind you, Musk is Canadian as well he came to USA as Canadian Citizen. Not the same immigration law that applies to Canadians that applies to Africans. He graduated from University of Pennsylvania and applied for his PhD in Stanford before he dropped out to focus on his software company Zip2. If he has committed a crime against the American immigration law as Biden want us to believe, they would have deported him, because Americans don't joke with their laws irrespective of who you are.

LadyExcellency:
The old man doesn’t even know the law. Why the lies?

When you come in on an F-1 Student Visa, you automatically get a 1yr work authorization with it called Optional Practical Training or OPT.

Surprised the president of the United States does not know this.

tishbite42:
This world is wicked
After using a ladder, you destroy it so that others can't

IjeBos:
Trump was honest about it.
He basically said he wants more immigrants from white countries and not from shithole countries like Nigeria.
But these Nigerians here still bow down to him.

Odidigboigbo:
Mind you, Musk is Canadian as well he came to USA as Canadian Citizen. Not the same immigration law that applies to Canadians that applies to Africans. He graduated from University of Pennsylvania and applied for his PhD in Stanford before he dropped out to focus on his software company Zip2. If he has committed a crime against the American immigration law as Biden want us to believe, they would have deported him, because Americans don't joke with their laws irrespective of who you are.

IbeOkehie:
Please there's no need for slurs and name calling. I'm trying to have a rational discussion so THANKS for the DIRECT ANSWERS and points you've raised in response to the comments I made.

I want to address your mention of Botswana as a functional or high HDI society. That country's economy is run by White Europeans. That's the fact. Make of it what you want. Ditto Namibia and South Africa, the other relatively prosperous or high HDI nations of Black Africa. You will say well colonialism. What about Liberia that was never colonized? Then Nigeria is about 25% of all Negroes on the planet and it's the Poverty Capital of the World. So it's quite plain there's a problem and it's not White Supremacy.

Can you name one life changing technological invention or innovation brought to the world by a Nigerian? Let's even lower the bar, can you name any world-wide brand of anything with high demand that is made or made possible by Nigeria? I repeat, Nigeria is 20 to 25% of the world Negro population. I was having this discussion with a doctor...a surgeon...and when I asked him this question he immediately said "I'm the first Black Surgeon in this country to use the DaVinci robotic surgery system". The whole thing just blew my mind.

While you deplore racism, bigotry and tribalism there one truth you can't escape - it will ALWAYS be part of human nature and behavior. Even YOU practice racism, bigotry and tribalism. You seem very protective of Black Africans and Negroes for instance. It's nature at work.

Anyway thanks for the comment. I understand you.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Badgers14:
That's incorrect, there wasn't an open border then

Amayabor1:
Many of you are too dumb on Nairaland, but alot of people in the US have seen Musk for the hypocrite that he is. He entered the US on a student visa. He later didn't go to the school. He dropped out to set up a company, which is against the terms of his student visa. That is the person that is now against immigration into the US.

Bunch of clowns and hypocrites.

naijapips04:
One illegal immigrant spotted

Badgers14:
Canadians can only visit the U.S without visa for 90 days. That's the only difference between Canadians and Africans.

By the way, do you know Elon Musk is south African?? Born and raised.. his father before him was born and raised in south Africa as well

RodgersAkpafu:
There was a reason I did not mention Namibia or South Africa, because like you rightly said, the white influences helped them out

Botswana is not the same
They had a visionary leader who steered the country in the right direction
Though he was raised and schooled in the west almost all his life sha
Even married a brit
His son took over and led the country even further
Botswana is a black success story
Namibia, to a lesser degree because of more German influence there
And SA, well, we all know how that goes there

Just to clarify

flyinnizam:
old biden should keep quiet. if Elon Musk was an illegal migrant, he won't be talking about illegal migrants all the time

naptu2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NntejdbfWaw?si=cc7R0ilYXRNsYxYJ



https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/26/biden-elon-musk-illegal-worker-began-career.html

IbeOkehie:
You're wrong about Botswana and that's OK. The Pula Royal Family basically sold committed the country to being a perpetual British colony. Most of the Black population are still poor but have a better living standard than Nigerians, generally speaking. The Khama Royal Family was lucky in that they had British and not French colonial rule. The Anglo-Saxons are a much more benevolent and tolerant people.

If the people of Botswana were as obsessed with White Supremacy and anti-colonialism as you, they would likely be the Poverty Capital of the World and not Nigeria. Sorry, I had to take a dig at you. I just had to do it. No vex.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Odidigboigbo:
Mind you, Musk is Canadian as well he came to USA as Canadian Citizen. Not the same immigration law that applies to Canadians that applies to Africans. He graduated from University of Pennsylvania and applied for his PhD in Stanford before he dropped out to focus on his software company Zip2. If he has committed a crime against the American immigration law as Biden want us to believe, they would have deported him, because Americans don't joke with their laws irrespective of who you are.

Amayabor1:
One of the dumb Trump wannabes that don't think. It was Washington post did the investigations and they found out musk broke the law by entering the US on a student visa but dropped out of the school to get a work visa. Even Musk hasn't come out to deny it. What an hypocrite he is.

RodgersAkpafu:
So it's not a genetic or capability thing

ita just a string of unfortunate events and bad culture to a lesser extent

Seunmsg1:
Even Trump's wife was like that before meeting him and she too is talking against immigrants. So Musk also can. You don't understand that the immigration battle is against coloured people and not white people.

IbeOkehie:
Come o, Oga do you really believe this? I'm curious as to what was your university major. I'm assuming you're a university grad. Biological sciences, business management or what?

It's an elementary point of biology that we each are the output of our genes. The genes code or contribute majorly to muscle mass, hair characteristics, eye color, height and so on. The genes determine our gender. Are you seriously telling me those same genes don't have any effect on the characteristics and workings of the brain?

Look, I know it's very uncomfortable to acknowledge it, but there's a genetic component to intelligence. Environment also plays a part but is LIMITED by the parameters set by the genes. This reality is really hard to take, but there it is. Nigeria is what it is BECAUSE of the people who inhabit it. Bringing a significant number of such people into a prosperous country reduces that prosperity UNLESS there's a rigorous selection process...which is actually what the USA should be doing...proactive selection of worthy people. For example, those who hate Whites or Christians should definitely be excluded from White majority nations. Allowing them in is a recipe for trouble.

By the way, it's interesting nobody accuses China or Saudi Arabia of racism, xenophobia and such. I wonder if it's even possible for an immigrant to get citizenship in such countries. The US & UK have really suffered from too much kindness.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

RodgersAkpafu:
You are cooning again

This man
To answer your question on Saudi Arabia and China, yes they do have naturalisation processes , though not as straight forward as the west
One of the men they hail in my village married a Chinese woman, have half Chinese kids and have a Chinese passport

That answers your question

There is no biological component to development.
Everything is cultural and mindset
Europe went through the dark ages and at that time, the middle east was ahead of them, contributing to mathematics so much so that the world use Arabic numerals till date, instead of Latin
we stuck to Latin alphabets though

Now will you say that the Europeans were intellectually and genetically inferior to the middle East in the 1200s - 1400s and shortly after ?

Ottoman empire and the Moor invasion of Spain
Read more about it and hear what they had to say about Europeans when they made contact with them, how backward they were at the time

Unfortunately the middle east fell to religious bigotry and slid down the abyss and the Europeans went through a "renaissance "

Same genes, different cultural shift , different ourcone
it's simple

Its the uninformed that whiteys can be doing "buga" for
I made it my life hobby to press their necks with history and knowledge to knock them off their high horse of supremacy


So again, it has nothing to do with genes
but environment and culture
yup about environment, read up on environmental determinism (even though it has racist roots, I agree with their core argument)

And to answer your first paragraph
Let's say I have spent so long in the uni (over 10 years of my life at diff levels) so I am in a position to speak on these things