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sonmvayina:
Believe what you like..

The truth is the truth.....whatever you believe does not change it...

I hope you know that for yourself and for your own good.

sonmvayina:
No, you have been lied to...

Yahweh is one of the 70 sons of Enlil who is married to Asherah. They are the Baals and Asherah mentioned in the books of kings..

The creator of the universe is not a thing, people only reverence its power.
The Creator has many references according to different languages on earth.
To the yorubas it is Olodumare
To the igbos it is CHINEKE



To the binis it is Osanobua
To the Ishans, it is Osanobua
To the Jews it is Hashem
To the Babylonians, it was Marduk
To the Romans, it was Jupiter
To the ancient Egyptian, it was Ra
To the Indians it was Brahma/Vishnu..

Enlil also known as Elil and Ellil is a Mesopotamia god of wind, air, earth and storms. He was a chief deity of the Sumerian pantheon but later worshipped by Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians and Hurrians[All Mesopotamians] Do know that God called Abraham out of Mesopotamia which was a chief center for idols worshipping and spiritual engagements including magic, spiritism, etc. Joshua 24:2 says, "And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood[Mesopotamia, emphasis is mine] in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods."

Why did the holy God ordered Abraham to leave Haran(Haran was in Mesopotamia and it is the present day Iraq) his native land? The first thing evident in his call was to establish His name.(Gen.12, 15; Exo.6:3). The second thing is to continue and actualize His original plan for the earth. The third thing is for the race of man to understand the BEING to relate with;other gods were being worshipped before his call, abominable things were being done while he was in his native land. Libations to unknown gods(Acts17:22-23), adultery, human sacrifices, witchcrafts, spiritism and medium consultation, magic, etc were their common practices.
Each tribe and tongue has its own pantheon and supreme deity's name they worship except the tribe of Israel whose form of religion is monotheistic in nature.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6 : 4

Note that the Israelites were punished each time they served other gods(Exodus 32; compare Psalm 16:4).

For Jews calling Yahweh "Hashem", means "the name" is a way to honour God because of the holy reverence attached to God's personal name, YHWH_"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, HALLOWED BE THY NAME."
Matthew 6 : 9

Anyway, I am still doubting the name of God, YHWH in Yoruba as "OLODUMARE."

Captain4Jehovah:
Enlil also known as Elil and Ellil is a Mesopotamia god of wind, air, earth and storms. He was a chief deity of the Sumerian pantheon but later worshipped by Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians and Hurrians[All Mesopotamians] Do know that God called Abraham out of Mesopotamia which was a chief center for idols worshipping and spiritual engagements including magic, spiritism, etc. Joshua 24:2 says, "And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood[Mesopotamia, emphasis is mine] in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods."

Why did the holy God ordered Abraham to leave Haran(Haran was in Mesopotamia and it is the present day Iraq) his native land? The first thing evident in his call was to establish His name.(Gen.12, 15; Exo.6:3). The second thing is to continue and actualize His original plan for the earth. The third thing is for the race of man to understand the BEING to relate with;other gods were being worshipped before his call, abominable things were being done while he was in his native land. Libations to unknown gods(Acts17:22-23), adultery, human sacrifices, witchcrafts, spiritism and medium consultation, magic, etc were their common practices.
Each tribe and tongue has its own pantheon and supreme deity's name they worship except the tribe of Israel whose form of religion is monotheistic in nature.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6 : 4

Note that the Israelites were punished each time they served other gods(Exodus 32; compare Psalm 16:4).

For Jews calling Yahweh "Hashem", means "the name" is a way to honour God because of the holy reverence attached to God's personal name, YHWH_"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, HALLOWED BE THY NAME."
Matthew 6 : 9

Anyway, I am still doubting the name of God, YHWH in Yoruba as "OLODUMARE."

What do yorubas call the creator of the universe? Either Olodumare or Eledumare....which is same being as YHWH in Judaism..

Why do people always fall for the Jewish propaganda? And hold their myth every other myth...I don't get it...
The yoruba ifa is 1000 times more superior than the Jewish propaganda...

Explain to me...

Everybody coming here to blab,

What I have always done is show that Christianity is not derived from Judaism..

It developed most likely in Egypt during the time of Ptolemy 1 soter as the worship of serapis...

Captain4Jehovah:
Enlil also known as Elil and Ellil is a Mesopotamia god of wind, air, earth and storms. He was a chief deity of the Sumerian pantheon but later worshipped by Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians and Hurrians[All Mesopotamians] Do know that God called Abraham out of Mesopotamia which was a chief center for idols worshipping and spiritual engagements including magic, spiritism, etc. Joshua 24:2 says, "And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood[Mesopotamia, emphasis is mine] in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods."

Why did the holy God ordered Abraham to leave Haran(Haran was in Mesopotamia and it is the present day Iraq) his native land? The first thing evident in his call was to establish His name.(Gen.12, 15; Exo.6:3). The second thing is to continue and actualize His original plan for the earth. The third thing is for the race of man to understand the BEING to relate with;other gods were being worshipped before his call, abominable things were being done while he was in his native land. Libations to unknown gods(Acts17:22-23), adultery, human sacrifices, witchcrafts, spiritism and medium consultation, magic, etc were their common practices.
Each tribe and tongue has its own pantheon and supreme deity's name they worship except the tribe of Israel whose form of religion is monotheistic in nature.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6 : 4

Note that the Israelites were punished each time they served other gods(Exodus 32; compare Psalm 16:4).

For Jews calling Yahweh "Hashem", means "the name" is a way to honour God because of the holy reverence attached to God's personal name, YHWH_"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, HALLOWED BE THY NAME."
Matthew 6 : 9

Anyway, I am still doubting the name of God, YHWH in Yoruba as "OLODUMARE."

I think the Yoruba name for God is Olorun. Eledumare is a title.

sonmvayina:
What do yorubas call the creator of the universe? Either Olodumare or Eledumare....which is same being as YHWH in Judaism..

Why do people always fall for the Jewish propaganda? And hold their myth every other myth...I don't get it...
The yoruba ifa is 1000 times more superior than the Jewish propaganda...

Explain to me...

I have proven on this thread that the God of Israel has control over the nations. Now prove for us how your ifa is more superior to the God whom has demonstrated that He is the Creator of the world? Who is ifa?

GothamCities:
I have proven on this thread that the God of Israel has control over the nations. Now prove for us how your ifa is more superior to the God whom has demonstrated that He is the Creator of the world? Who is ifa?

The yoruba belief system.
Where Olodumare reigns supreme..
As the creator of the universe and man...

sonmvayina:
The yoruba belief system.
Where Olodumare reigns supreme..
As the creator of the universe and man...

Are you talking about Olodumare or ifa?

GothamCities:
Are you talking about Olodumare or ifa?

Olodumare is the creator
Ifa is the word of God...

sonmvayina:
Olodumare is the creator
Ifa is the word of God...

But you said ifa is superior to the God of Israel.

GothamCities:
But you said ifa is superior to the God of Israel.

No..ifa is superior to the Bible

Olodumare is same as the God of Israel...with a different name..

sonmvayina:
No..ifa is superior to the Bible

Olodumare is same as the God of Israel...with a different name..

Lol. Yet, we use the words of the Bible to break the words of ifa and the witches that ifa acknowledges.

If ifa is greater than the Bible, please show me the control ifa's words have had over the nations as demonstrated on this thread for the Bible.

GothamCities:
Lol. Yet, we use the words of the Bible to break the words of ifa and the witches that ifa acknowledges.

If ifa is greater than the Bible, please show me the control ifa's words have had over the nations as demonstrated on this thread for the Bible.

Ifa is God's special gift to the yoruba people.
Every nation have their own...their own oracle.
The Jews have theirs and the yorubas have theirs...
God is God everywhere...there is only one God who is the creator of heaven and earth.. it is just the name that is different.
I think you are reading too much of the Jewish myths, that you have lost track with reality...there is only one power on earth..not two ...one and it belongs to the creator...
The so called sons of God are what the yorubas call orisha. They represents sent laws and principles of life...

sonmvayina:
Ifa is God's special gift to the yoruba people.
Every nation have their own...their own oracle.
The Jews have theirs and the yorubas have theirs...
God is God everywhere...there is only one God who is the creator of heaven and earth.. it is just the name that is different.
I think you are reading too much of the Jewish myths, that you have lost track with reality...there is only one power on earth..not two ...one and it belongs to the creator...
The so called sons of God are what the yorubas call orisha. They represents sent laws and principles of life...

God's special gift for human sacrifices, appeasement of witches, bowing down to wood and stone, referring demons, etc?

Why are you so ignorant?

GothamCities:
You're really dumb! Too dumb for that matter!

Why Cyrus might think it was Marduk that was helping him, it was actually YHWH. Cyrus didn't know YHWH. 150yrs before Cyrus was born, YHWH already foretold about Cyrus.

Isaiah 45:4

"For the sake of my servant Jacob and Israel my chosen, I call you by your name, giving you a title, though you do not know me."

It is the height of dumbness to think that since YHWH helped Cyrus, and Cyrus worshipped Marduk, hence YHWH is Marduk. Very unintelligent conclusion.

This is a support for your evidence.

1. YHWH HELPED CYRUS.
2. CYRUS WORSHIPPED MARDUK.
3. THEREFORE, YHWH IS MARDUK.
What a conclusion! First, does the meaning of YHWH correlate with Marduk? YHWH means "I EXIST", "I AM." And Marduk, the chief god of the Babylonian gods whose consort is Sarpanitu. He had a visible representation, I mean there was a statue for him which the One, the living God who called out Abraham from Mesopotamia abhored:

And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.
Joshua 24 : 2.
And:
[3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me. [4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. [5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 20 : 3-5

And:
Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer, nor take up their names into my lips.
Psalm 16 : 4

Second, for the fact God, YHWH "helped" (Man can't help God. God used him, Cyrus instead to continue His eternal plan for the earth) Cyrus shows His supremacy and unquestionable ways He is dealing with Adam, the race of man_He is the HUSBANDMAN, humans are His branches. Compare Romans 11:21,24. In another vein, He is the Husbandman, we his sheep(Psalm 100:3).

in short, the word "god" is a family name referring to supernatural beings:

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Psalm 82 : 6-7

Even the prophets of Baal confessed YHWH when they saw the God of the Hebrews in action. They all cried that YHWH is the true God.

And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God.
1 Kings 18 : 39

So, YHWH exists. He is the God of the Hebrews and ALSO the God of the universe, the God of all flesh. I conclude:

That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
1 John 1 : 3

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 12 : 49

Captain4Jehovah:
This is a support for your evidence.

1. YHWH HELPED CYRUS.
2. CYRUS WORSHIPPED MARDUK.
3. THEREFORE, YHWH IS MARDUK.
What a conclusion! First, does the meaning of YHWH correlate with Marduk? YHWH means "I EXIST", "I AM." And Marduk, the chief god of the Babylonian gods whose consort is Sarpanitu. He had a visible representation, I mean there was a statue for him which the One, the living God who called out Abraham from Mesopotamia abhored:

And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.
Joshua 24 : 2.
And:
[3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me. [4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. [5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 20 : 3-5

And:
Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer, nor take up their names into my lips.
Psalm 16 : 4

Second, for the fact God, YHWH "helped" (Man can't help God. God used him, Cyrus instead to continue His eternal plan for the earth) Cyrus shows His supremacy and unquestionable ways He is dealing with Adam, the race of man_He is the HUSBANDMAN, humans are His branches. Compare Romans 11:21,24. In another vein, He is the Husbandman, we his sheep(Psalm 100:3).

in short, the word "god" is a family name referring to supernatural beings:

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Psalm 82 : 6-7

Even the prophets of Baal confessed YHWH when they saw the God of the Hebrews in action. They all cried that YHWH is the true God.

And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God.
1 Kings 18 : 39

So, YHWH exists. He is the God of the Hebrews and ALSO the God of the universe, the God of all flesh. I conclude:

That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
1 John 1 : 3

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 12 : 49

Thanks very much. You nailed it!

I've not seen anyone so ignorant like sonmvayina, yet he thinks he knows more than everyone.

GothamCities:
Thanks very much. You nailed it!

I've not seen anyone so ignorant like sonmvayina, yet he thinks he knows more than everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2IHhYJzg4?si=EdcbUXb54HK_0kTe


Watch this video, if you don't have mb, drop your number, I will load for you..

You will learn a lot.

GothamCities:
God's special gift for human sacrifices, appeasement of witches, bowing down to wood and stone, referring demons, etc?

Why are you so ignorant?

Because the people that enslaved your ancestors told you so it must be true...

When will you ever grow up.

And they gave you a religion built on human sacrifice....

You are just the worst kind of human being..

GothamCities:
Lol. Yet, we use the words of the Bible to break the words of ifa and the witches that ifa acknowledges.

If ifa is greater than the Bible, please show me the control ifa's words have had over the nations as demonstrated on this thread for the Bible.

Continue deceiving yourself..

The revelation is upon us..

Be prepared for what is coming..

sonmvayina:
Continue deceiving yourself..

The revelation is upon us..

Be prepared for what is coming..

I didn't ask you to sing a poem.

I asked a question. I gave you a logical challenge.

sonmvayina:
Because the people that enslaved your ancestors told you so it must be true...

When will you ever grow up.

And they gave you a religion built on human sacrifice....

You are just the worst kind of human being..

Abeg, go and sit down.

I'm a Yoruba man and not a kid. I know what it entails. Nobody has to tell me anything. You should go and tell your lies to your kids. When did you ever see me or any Christian doing human sacrifices?

The witches you so much love have blinded your eyes.

sonmvayina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2IHhYJzg4?si=EdcbUXb54HK_0kTe


Watch this video, if you don't have mb, drop your number, I will load for you..

You will learn a lot.

Absolute nonsense!

GothamCities:
Absolute nonsense!

Did you watch it?

GothamCities:
Abeg, go and sit down.

I'm a Yoruba man and not a kid. I know what it entails. Nobody has to tell me anything. You should go and tell your lies to your kids. When did you ever see me or any Christian doing human sacrifices?

The witches you so much love have blinded your eyes.

Is Christianity not founded on human sacrifice?

sonmvayina:
Is Christianity not founded on human sacrifice?

No. It's not.

GothamCities:
No. It's not.

Really....that's fresh.

Please educate me what it is based on..

GothamCities:
I didn't ask you to sing a poem.

I asked a question. I gave you a logical challenge.

You are the one who chose to shot your eyes to reality. Because it does not tally with what you have been brainwashed with...

Be there..

sonmvayina:
You are the one who chose to shot your eyes to reality. Because it does not tally with what you have been brainwashed with...

Be there..

I have thrown you a challenge. Would you please respond?

GothamCities:
I have thrown you a challenge. Would you please respond?

Which is??

sonmvayina:
Really....that's fresh.

Please educate me what it is based on..

You need to first show where you found men making human sacrifices to found Christianity.

GothamCities:
You need to first show where you found men making human sacrifices to found Christianity.

Is Christianity not based on the worship of a man that was nailed to a cross
And Christine believing that he was sacrificed to God for the forgiveness of sins. A sort of human sin sacrifice for sins?

Or what is Christianity based on...

sonmvayina:
Is Christianity not based on the worship of a man that was nailed to a cross
And Christine believing that he was sacrificed to God for the forgiveness of sins. A sort of human sin sacrifice for sins?

Or what is Christianity based on...

My challenge to you what not based on what you belong but what you do.

Do christians make human sacrifices of any kind? No! Has any Christian in the history of Christianity ever made any human sacrifice to appease or please the God of the Bible? No. If anyone does, he or she would not remain a Christian.

You do make sacrifices of all kinds including humans, appease witches and worship demons. You carve wood and stone to bow down to, yet you consider yourself a human being?