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Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by silaswills01(m): 8:36am On Oct 28, 2024
cassidy1996:
Arsenal should stay one side let Liverpool win this game, because they will still not win the league. Initial gra gra... Man city must not win this league again
Toh then na who
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by Bossly: 8:51am On Oct 28, 2024
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Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by TheStrongest: 9:30am On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Firstly, it’s England Player of the Year not National Team Best Player and Palmer’s emergence was not based on NT performance. If it’s based on NT performance, do you really think Palmer would have won it?

Secondly, If the players that voted considered overall stats and trophies, Kane or Bellingham would have won it.

Kane had abt 45goals and 10 assists for club and country.

Bellingham had about 27goals and 15 assists for club and country. He also won UCL & La liga.

Foden had similar stats with Bellingham. He also won EPL.

And What’s even special about winning England Player of the Year? Saka won it twice and several players have won it.

Palmer is a very good player with a brighter future but your last sentence was unreasonable.
Palmer was a better player last season than everybody you mentioned.

And he was rewarded for his performance.. Winning England's player of the season is special, it means he is the best player in the squad for that season. The same squad that has Bellingham, Foden, and Saka.

You agree or not doesn't change anything. The award is there to backup my claim.

Vini will win the Balon D'or today, using personal stats as a yardstick, is he better than everybody on that Balon D'or top 20 list?
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 10:04am On Oct 28, 2024
TheStrongest:
Palmer was a better player last season than everybody you mentioned.

And he was rewarded for his performance.. Winning England's player of the season is special, it means he is the best player in the squad for that season. The same squad that has Bellingham, Foden, and Saka.

You agree or not doesn't change anything. The award is there to backup my claim.

Vini will win the Balon D'or today, using personal stats as a yardstick, is he better than everybody on that Balon D'or top 20 list?
Are you kidding me right now?

Palmer better than Foden, Bellingham and Kane last season?

Palmer did not even make Balon D’or top 15 meanwhile Kane, Foden and Bellingham made the list.

Statistically, these guys were better than him.

What exactly did he play for the national team to win it?

How many goals and assists did he contribute in qualifiers?

In the main tournament, he scored once and assisted once.

I like Palmer but you guys really need to stop the sentiment game.

Stop trying to twist it. Vini will not just win for personal performance. He won UCL & La liga with outstanding performances. He scored 6 UCL goals…. Only Kane and Mbappe 8 had more
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by TheStrongest: 11:47am On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Are you kidding me right now?

Palmer better than Foden, Bellingham and Kane last season?

Palmer did not even make Balon D’or top 15 meanwhile Kane, Foden and Bellingham made the list.

Statistically, these guys were better than him.

What exactly did he play for the national team to win it?

How many goals and assists did he contribute in qualifiers?

In the main tournament, he scored once and assisted once.

I like Palmer but you guys really need to stop the sentiment game.

Stop trying to twist it. Vini will not just win for personal performance. He won UCL & La liga with outstanding performances. He scored 6 UCL goals…. Only Kane and Mbappe 8 had more
Oga you don't like Palmer, stop hiding behind "I like Palmer" to spew your biased take. Palmer was a better player than Saka, Bellingham, and Foden last season. He lost the PFA award to Foden because of Chelsea's performance last season. You're mentioning goals and assist score for national team, how many goals and assist do you expect a bench player to have?

His assist took them to the finals, his goal in the final leveled the game before Spain scored again.

Palmer was a better player than the other guys last season.

In what statistics were these guys better than Palmer last season? He had a better goal contribution than all these players. What stats exactly were they better than Palmer?

If you agree or not is not my business, the awards are there to back my claim.

I rest my case.
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by CaptainZubi: 12:15pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
lying would not take you anywhere.

Who in his or her right senses would compare Kos to JT?

Or Wilshere to Lampard

Sanchez and Hazard is arguable. The difference is just the club they played for at the time. Both players had similar impacts on their respective clubs. Hazard had a better team. We can’t say the same for Sanchez. Quality wise Hazard is/was not better.

And no Arsenal fan would compare Fab & Cazorla.

Fab was our former player and as a matter of fact, we’ve not had any 10 better than him not even Ozil

Stop sounding as if Chelsea fans are not culpable of the same accusation.

Chelsea fans keep saying Hazard is better than Salah. When you bring stats, they get angry but you guys didn’t have a problem comparing Drogba to Henry.
I burst into laughter when you said hazard was not better than sanchez quality wise
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 1:13pm On Oct 28, 2024
CaptainZubi:
I burst into laughter when you said hazard was not better than sanchez quality wise
He wasn’t….. he just played for a better team at the time.
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 2:21pm On Oct 28, 2024
TheStrongest:
Oga you don't like Palmer, stop hiding behind "I like Palmer" to spew your biased take.
Regarding how I see Palmer, I have absolutely nothing to prove to you. Liking him does not stop me from saying the truth unlike you Chelsea fan that like to compare your players to others. if its not how James is better than Arnold, its Drogba vs Henry or Hazard vs Salah or JT vs VVD. one day we will hear Palmer is better than Messi just like you guys almost made us believe Hazard was the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi
Palmer was a better player than Saka, Bellingham, and Foden last season.
why did you omit Harry Kane?
He lost the PFA award to Foden because of Chelsea's performance last season. You're mentioning goals and assist score for national team, how many goals and assist do you expect a bench player to have?
I see what you did. I mentioned Harry Kane, Foden and Bellingham. You omitted Harry Kane to make you point valid because you know Kane outperformed him.
His assist took them to the finals, his goal in the final leveled the game before Spain scored again.
Did others not contributed before the semis? Harry Kane scored 3, Bellingham 2, Saka Watkins & Palmer 1..... or others didn't count cos Palmer scored in the final?
In what statistics were these guys better than Palmer last season? He had a better goal contribution than all these players. What stats exactly were they better than Palmer?

If you agree or not is not my business, the awards are there to back my claim.

I rest my case.
So Palmer was better than Harry Kane with 46goals 12 assist last season?
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by CaptainZubi: 2:24pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
He wasn’t….. he just played for a better team at the time.
Yet you're still making excuses despite the fact that hazard was an individually brilliant player.
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by CaptainZubi: 2:26pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Regarding how I see Palmer, I have absolutely nothing to prove to you. Liking him does not stop me from saying the truth unlike you Chelsea fan that like to compare your players to others. if its not how James is better than Arnold, its Drogba vs Henry or Hazard vs Salah or JT vs VVD. one day we will hear Palmer is better than Messi just like you guys almost made us believe Hazard was the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi why did you omit Harry Kane? I see what you did. I mentioned Harry Kane, Foden and Bellingham. You omitted Harry Kane to make you point valid because you know Kane outperformed him. Did others not contributed before the semis? Harry Kane scored 3, Bellingham 2, Saka Watkins & Palmer 1..... or others didn't count cos Palmer scored in the final? So Palmer was better than Harry Kane with 46goals 12 assist last season?
So JT was not a better defender than van dijk? grin this guy no go purge me with laugh
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 2:26pm On Oct 28, 2024
CaptainZubi:
So JT was not a better defender than van dijk? grin this guy no go purge me with laugh
read to understand not respond. talking abt the constant comparison
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 2:29pm On Oct 28, 2024
CaptainZubi:
Yet you're still making excuses despite the fact that hazard was an individually brilliant player.
Sanchez wasnt an individually brilliant player?
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by TheStrongest: 2:34pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Regarding how I see Palmer, I have absolutely nothing to prove to you. Liking him does not stop me from saying the truth unlike you Chelsea fan that like to compare your players to others. if its not how James is better than Arnold, its Drogba vs Henry or Hazard vs Salah or JT vs VVD. one day we will hear Palmer is better than Messi just like you guys almost made us believe Hazard was the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi why did you omit Harry Kane? I see what you did. I mentioned Harry Kane, Foden and Bellingham. You omitted Harry Kane to make you point valid because you know Kane outperformed him. Did others not contributed before the semis? Harry Kane scored 3, Bellingham 2, Saka Watkins & Palmer 1..... or others didn't count cos Palmer scored in the final? So Palmer was better than Harry Kane with 46goals 12 assist last season?
Kane is a number 9, and a great one too, He's obviously gonna have more goals than Palmer. In the playmaking role, Palmer dwarfs Kane..

You brought about stats, and I told you Palmer was better than the rest. And so far this season is still better than the rest. Why did you omit the rest and focus on just Kane??

Saying Chelsea fans compares their players with others is a FAT lie, we're not known for that. That is an Arsenal thing..

Chelsea fans are known to brag about their team, that is 100% true.

Also, whatever happens to Hazard's career is non of our business, for the time he was with us he was among the best 4 players in the world. If you're honest, you would attest to that. Saying he was the next big thing was not wrong, everyone with eyes could see that he was.

Lastly, Messi is nobody's mate, don't drag the GOAT into this conversation abeg..
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by TheStrongest: 2:42pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Sanchez wasnt an individually brilliant player?
It was Arsenal fans that brought up that silly Sanchez vs Hazard comparison. Every right thinking human knows that Hazard was a better player than Sanchez.

Sanchez was a fantastic player, no doubt about that. But you can't compare both.

You're just pained and avoiding the truth. I don't even know who brought up the Saka vs Palmer argument yesterday, but because you don't want to agree that Palmer was a better player than Saka last season you had to include Foden and Bellingham in the argument, yet Palmer was better than these two..

Like Haaland said, "Stay Humble 😁"..
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 2:55pm On Oct 28, 2024
TheStrongest:
It was Arsenal fans that brought up that silly Sanchez vs Hazard comparison. Every right thinking human knows that Hazard was a better player than Sanchez.

Sanchez was a fantastic player, no doubt about that. But you can't compare both.

You're just pained and avoiding the truth. I don't even know who brought up the Saka vs Palmer argument yesterday, but because you don't want to agree that Palmer was a better player than Saka last season you had to include Foden and Bellingham in the argument, yet Palmer was better than these two..

Like Haaland said, "Stay Humble 😁"..
Like I said before, Hazard had a better team.

You had that argument with some other person not me.

And it was never about last season. I don’t know if it was you but someone said Palmer is a better player. I commented and said I don’t agree. Palmer is good but not better than Sakas plus he’s a midfielder while Saka is a pure winger. The person even went ahead to say if he prefers Neto to Saka

See the screenshot 👇

Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 3:18pm On Oct 28, 2024
TheStrongest:
Kane is a number 9, and a great one too, He's obviously gonna have more goals than Palmer. In the playmaking role, Palmer dwarfs Kane..

You brought about stats, and I told you Palmer was better than the rest. And so far this season is still better than the rest. Why did you omit the rest and focus on just Kane??

Saying Chelsea fans compares their players with others is a FAT lie, we're not known for that. That is an Arsenal thing..

Chelsea fans are known to brag about their team, that is 100% true.

Also, whatever happens to Hazard's career is non of our business, for the time he was with us he was among the best 4 players in the world. If you're honest, you would attest to that. Saying he was the next big thing was not wrong, everyone with eyes could see that he was.

Lastly, Messi is nobody's mate, don't drag the GOAT into this conversation abeg..
Foden/Bellingham had better season and almost equal stats with Palmer. i told you its not NT performance that won him the award and even club performance Foden, Bellingham and Kane performed better and those names are also in the race for Balon D'or but you kept on saying he was the best. how come he was not shortlisted for Balon D'or?

Abt the bolded, Chelsea fans do this a whole lot. i don't know if you are active on twitter but once a Chelsea player starts shining, the next thing is to start a comparison.

Drogba vs Henry
James vs Arnold
The moment Salah began to shine, they began to compare him to Hazard.
VVD was nominated for Balon D'or, next thing they brought JT into the convo.
As soon as Palmer started balling, they began to drag Saka.


cant you people just adore your players and lets others be.

To be honest, nobody can dispute how good Hazard was but he wasn't the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi. The next best thing was Neymar not him. its Chelsea fans that were trying to push Neymar out of the convo.

I'm a huge fan of Messi....and for the record, its not a comparison but a prediction of what might happen if Palmer continues at this pace.
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by TheStrongest: 4:56pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Foden/Bellingham had better season and almost equal stats with Palmer. i told you its not NT performance that won him the award and even club performance Foden, Bellingham and Kane performed better and those names are also in the race for Balon D'or but you kept on saying he was the best. how come he was not shortlisted for Balon D'or?

Abt the bolded, Chelsea fans do this a whole lot. i don't know if you are active on twitter but once a Chelsea player starts shining, the next thing is to start a comparison.

Drogba vs Henry
James vs Arnold
The moment Salah began to shine, they began to compare him to Hazard.
VVD was nominated for Balon D'or, next thing they brought JT into the convo.
As soon as Palmer started balling, they began to drag Saka.


cant you people just adore your players and lets others be.

To be honest, nobody can dispute how good Hazard was but he wasn't the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi. The next best thing was Neymar not him. its Chelsea fans that were trying to push Neymar out of the convo.

I'm a huge fan of Messi....and for the record, its not a comparison but a prediction of what might happen if Palmer continues at this pace.
You guys just don't like Hazard, SIMPLE!!
Everyone knew Neymar was the 3rd best player then, I don't know ANY Chelsea fan that went against that view.

Also, the talk of JT being brought into the conversation was a testament to how difficult it was for players to get to that point then. Everyone knows JT was a better defender than Van Dijk, the likes of Vidic, Ramos, Pepe, Cole, etc were all better than Van Dijk. It was just a reference, and it wasn't only JT that was mentioned then.

I guess anything CHELSEA rile you up, sorry 😁😁.. It's not our fault we're the pride of London.

Palmer was better than all the other players you mentioned, last season. The only difference was trophy, which is a team something. Individual performance Palmer was ahead of ALL of them.

I understand you're a gunner, I don't expect you to agree..

So, let's just drop the back and forth here..

To you they were all better than Palmer, that's fine..
To the rest of the world Palmer was better, and that's fine too.
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by TheStrongest: 4:58pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Like I said before, Hazard had a better team.

You had that argument with some other person not me.

And it was never about last season. I don’t know if it was you but someone said Palmer is a better player. I commented and said I don’t agree. Palmer is good but not better than Sakas plus he’s a midfielder while Saka is a pure winger. The person even went ahead to say if he prefers Neto to Saka

See the screenshot 👇
And in all my argument I always included "last season".. We can't compare overall since Palmer just had his first full season last season. Saka has done more for both club and country.

My point has always been about last season.
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 5:07pm On Oct 28, 2024
TheStrongest:
And in all my argument I always included "last season".. We can't compare overall since Palmer just had his first full season last season. Saka has done more for both club and country.

My point has always been about last season.
I guess I missed that part cos I was having same discussion with the other guy
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 5:33pm On Oct 28, 2024
TheStrongest:
You guys just don't like Hazard, SIMPLE!!
Everyone knew Neymar was the 3rd best player then, I don't know ANY Chelsea fan that went against that view.

Also, the talk of JT being brought into the conversation was a testament to how difficult it was for players to get to that point then. Everyone knows JT was a better defender than Van Dijk, the likes of Vidic, Ramos, Pepe, Cole, etc were all better than Van Dijk. It was just a reference, and it wasn't only JT that was mentioned then.

I guess anything CHELSEA rile you up, sorry 😁😁.. It's not our fault we're the pride of London.

Palmer was better than all the other players you mentioned, last season. The only difference was trophy, which is a team something. Individual performance Palmer was ahead of ALL of them.

I understand you're a gunner, I don't expect you to agree..

So, let's just drop the back and forth here..

To you they were all better than Palmer, that's fine..
To the rest of the world Palmer was better, and that's fine too.
Why would anybody hate Hazard?

Well, maybe you are not among those that compared him to Neymar. It’s one argument I would never in a hurry. 2016 when I was serving in Jos, this argument came up severally……Chelsea fans kept on saying Hazard was better than Neymar. A number of them kept quiet after Neymar’s performance in remontada.

JT is one player I watched from beginning to the end of his career. In EPL it’s hard to compare any defender with him. VVD is a good player but quality wise, he’s not on JT’s level.

The only reasonable argument back then was Gerrard vs Lampard.

Don’t guess, am a full blooded Arsenal fan. Na assistant pride of London una be🤩🤩

You may not blv but I rate Palmer higher than Foden and I am not a big fan of Bellingham.

For Foden, I have a feeling he can’t function outside Pep’s system. I may be wrong but his performance with the NT over the years is validating my opinion abt him.

For Bellingham, I have watched him play severally and to be sincere, the guy is far from what the media is making us believe.

For Palmer, I wish he plays for Arsenal that’s how much I rate him.

Au revoir bro 🤝
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by CaptainZubi: 5:45pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
read to understand not respond. talking abt the constant comparison
Oga go and compare saka with madueke. He's no where close to Palmer. Even nkunku
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 6:12pm On Oct 28, 2024
CaptainZubi:
Oga go and compare saka with madueke. He's no where close to Palmer. Even nkunku
Go and sleep
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by CaptainZubi: 8:48pm On Oct 28, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Go and sleep
Una never win ucl before yet you dey talk lol we no be mates
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by CaptainZubi: 12:56pm On Oct 30, 2024
OJEEMAH:
Go and sleep
Ademola lookman is even better than saka
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by OJEEMAH(m): 1:13pm On Oct 30, 2024
CaptainZubi:
Ademola lookman is even better than saka
okay
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by CaptainZubi: 3:49pm On Oct 30, 2024
OJEEMAH:
okay
E pain my guy grin

I'm sure you don't watch Palmer. Go and watch his highlights if you dont watch our full games.. Na rare talent. Once in a generation.

First time I saw him was in a community shield game for City where he scored and outside curler. I knew he was special. I was so surprised when we bought him.
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by jaephoenix(m): 12:26am On Nov 06, 2024
Sccarrr:
as u were at some point in the last 2 seasons, u will go back to ur factory mode soon....
I can see you have gone to your factory mode position grin
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by jaephoenix(m): 12:40am On Nov 06, 2024
Sccarrr:
u mean Bradley is now better than Trent, or Elliot wey una dey carry enter fr 80 mins..na thunder go faya ur mouth for underrating Trent....u played my side without Saliba, Odegard, Calafiori ,Tomiyasu, jorginho ,Tierney, zini, Gabriel for most part,barely fit Timber that ended up limping out, a barely fit Saka and u still struggled...u no get shame
Liar liar pant on fire. Your only players on injury list then were 4.
5 Liverpool players were injured, and you still struggled. Basstard liar like you
Btw, I never said Bradley is better than Trent. I said he plays for 20 mins when we want to shore up defense since he is more defensive than Trent, but your cretarded brain can't still understand
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by jaephoenix(m): 12:41am On Nov 06, 2024
CaptainZubi:
E pain my guy grin

I'm sure you don't watch Palmer. Go and watch his highlights if you dont watch our full games.. Na rare talent. Once in a generation.

First time I saw him was in a community shield game for City where he scored and outside curler. I knew he was special. I was so surprised when we bought him.
Someone had just one good season and suddenly he's a a rare talent? These Chelsea fans need to get a grip on reality. Delululand isn't far away
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by Sccarrr(m): 6:05am On Nov 06, 2024
jaephoenix:
Liar liar pant on fire. Your only players on injury list then were 4.
5 Liverpool players were injured, and you still struggled. Basstard liar like you
Btw, I never said Bradley is better than Trent. I said he plays for 20 mins when we want to shore up defense since he is more defensive than Trent, but your cretarded brain can't still understand
u Know nothing Jon snow
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by SIRmanjar(m): 4:54am On Nov 28, 2024
Hmm
Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (2 - 2) On 27th October 2024 by BOOZELEE: 4:58am On Nov 28, 2024
SIRmanjar:
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