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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:11pm On Oct 28, 2024

Janosky:

The screenshot evidences are self explanatory.
"Like" is not in the Hebrew text but added by English Bible translators.

God said to Moses:
" I have made you God to Pharaoh."
Exodus 7:1.

Which mean your NWT added to what is not in the original Hebrew.

See how this JaNosense keeps proving that his beloved NWT is inaccurate.

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:13pm On Oct 28, 2024

Janosky:
Micah 5:2 Hebrew text.
His (Jesus) ORIGIN (beginning) is of old, from the days of yore."

Origin from ETERNITY, can something with beginning existing in ETERNITY JaNosense? cheesy

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:18pm On Oct 28, 2024

Janosky:
"Honor your Father and your mother "
"Honor Jesus just as you honor the Father"
Yet, the hierarchy @1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13 is irreversible and irrevocable.

Freshboi, does your honoring Jesus change anything @
1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13?

Whether you keep WAILING & throwing tantrums about honoring Jesus, 1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13 is sacrosanct.

Confused Trinitarians and woke IBERIBEISM are very inseparable.

Do you honor your father and mother JUST AS you honor Jehovah?

This JaNosense quoted me and started calling another moniker which shows how confused he was.

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:24pm On Oct 28, 2024*

freshboi88:
Please show me where Jesus corrected them ?

That is to show you how they are so angry with anything in the scripture that proved Jesus to be Almighty God.

As you see him, he agreed with his fellow Jws on this forum that the Apostle actually MADE MISTAKE and because of that Bible actually contradicted (even though they can't make such statement in their hall) yet Jesus never corrected them.

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:39pm On Oct 28, 2024

Janosky:
[b]No Sir.
The expression "First born of creation" is not a figure of speech.

But it's not about FIRST CREATED

The word first born is a common expression in the old and new testaments.

Yes! Common expression for POSITION not FIRST CREATED.

From Genesis to Revelation, every first born is a creature,no exceptions.

That's not the point of the writer.

Where FIRSTBORN ARE USED in from Genesis to Revelation has where the object isn't THE FIRST PERSON given birth to in the family has ALWAY BEEN ABOUT HIGHER RANK

"The first born of God" at Hebrew 1:6a is not a figure of speech.

Neither is it a direct meaning of FIRST CREATED.

Apostle Paul completed explained what he meant when he said Chirst is the FIRSTBORN it simply means PREEMINENCE.

Did you not read that from Paul?

God his Father is also the Father of all.

We can't say the first born of every child is not a child.

Then why do you say the Son of God is NOT GOD?

Therefore, Jesus the first born of every creature is himself a creature. Micah 5:2 Hebrew text.[/b]

Jesus is the Creator, He created you, Michael and everything in the universe.

Yahweh is not a limited God who needs a lesser god to help Him in creation or lie lie God since He CALIMED HE CREATED ALL THING ALL BY HIMSELF.

Micah 5:2 is never in your support, as you can't still removed that delusion from your head.

Micah 5:2 is another evidence that Jesus never had BEGINNING.

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:54pm On Oct 28, 2024

Janosky:
Abraham had many offsprings in the physical realm he dwells.
But,only Isaac was begotten.

See delusion.

So others are not begotten by Abraham cheesy

God has many sons in the spiritual realm HE dwells.
But only one son, Jesus is begotten in the spiritual realm.

You mean other Angels are not BEGOTTEN....

So what does it mean to be BEGOTTEN?

Was the word "begotten" ever applied to God our heavenly Father at any time?

Definitely not!

The right question should be what does it mean to be begotten?

If you can answer this, them you'll see how your delusion about Isaac was ONLY BEGOTTEN BY Abraham and Jesus being theONLY BEGOTTEN.

I know your BEGOTTEN here means CREATED.

So, other Angels not CREATED KO

Maybe God manufactured them cheesy

Every begotten son had a beginning, revelation 3:14 &
1 Corinthians 11:11-12 .

What does it mean to be BEGOTTEN?

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Janosky: 11:52pm On Oct 28, 2024

Emusan:
Which mean your NWT added to what is not in the original Hebrew.

See how this JaNosense keeps proving that his beloved NWT is inaccurate.

Emusan Illiterate dunce miscreant.

Going by your MUMU, all your Trinitarian Bibles at Exodus 7:1 are inaccurate as well.

Your low IQ won't comprehend that God calls His sons (plural) gods in your own Bible, Psalms 82:1,6.
"Like God" meaning godlike or a god .

Dummy please Continue WAILING and proving your IBERIBEISM.

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Janosky: 12:13am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
See delusion.

So others are not begotten by Abraham

You mean other Angels are not BEGOTTEN....

So what does it mean to be BEGOTTEN?

The right question should be what does it mean to be begotten?

If you can answer this, them you'll see how your delusion about Isaac was ONLY BEGOTTEN BY Abraham and Jesus being theONLY BEGOTTEN.

I know your BEGOTTEN here means CREATED.

So, other Angels not CREATED KO

Maybe God manufactured them

What does it mean to be BEGOTTEN?

Emusan dunce for life

Very low IQ guy forming woke.

Go and find out the root meaning of Greek 'mono' & Greek 'genes'.

Or
Upgrade your dunce level

grin

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Janosky: 12:20am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
Do you honor your father and mother JUST AS you honor Jehovah?

This JaNosense quoted me and started calling another moniker which shows how confused he was.

Birds of a feather flock together - your IQ too low to comprehend facts, especially from your own Bible.
.
The word honor has the same meaning in all verses of the scriptures.

In addition,
Oga use Biblehub study every translation of
1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13 until that scripture sinks into your skull.

Oga, go & emancipate yourself.

grin

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Janosky: 12:49am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
But it's not about FIRST CREATED

Yes! Common expression for POSITION not FIRST CREATED.

That's not the point of the writer.

Where FIRSTBORN ARE USED in from Genesis to Revelation has where the object isn't THE FIRST PERSON given birth to in the family has ALWAY BEEN ABOUT HIGHER RANK

Neither is it a direct meaning of FIRST CREATED.

Apostle Paul completed explained what he meant when he said Chirst is the FIRSTBORN it simply means PREEMINENCE.

Did you not read that from Paul?

.

Low IQ dunce forming woke.
Every first BORN in your Bible was created prior to their PREEMINENCE .

Study Genesis 49:3 & stop your IBERIBEISM
First born in that verse is distinct from PREEMINENCE.

Emusan:
Then why do you say the Son of God is NOT GOD?
.

Study 1 Corinthians 11:3,11-12 until you comprehend.
grin

Emusan:
Jesus is the Creator, He created you, Michael and everything in the universe.
.

1 Timothy 6:13, 1 Corinthians 11:11-12. Hebrew 1:2.
1 Corinthians 8:6. Isaiah 44:24
Yahweh the God (ho Theos @ John 1:1) created ALL THINGS".

Not your 3 deities invented at Nicene
grin

Emusan:
Yahweh is not a limited God who needs a lesser god to help Him in creation or lie lie God since He CALIMED HE CREATED ALL THING ALL BY HIMSELF.
.

Did you see your 2nd person and 3rd person deities at Isaiah 44:24?
Yahweh Hmself does not recognize your 3 deities invented by men at Nicene 381 AD.
Pls remain stuck in your delusion invented at Nicene.

Emusan:
Micah 5:2 is never in your support, as you can't still removed that delusion from your head.

Micah 5:2 is another evidence that Jesus never had BEGINNING .

Oga, you can continue WAILING all your life.
You see that Hebrew text of Micah 5:2, it has existed before your delusion invented at Nicene.
"His (Jesus) ORIGIN is from of old, the days of yore"
grin

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Janosky: 1:00am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
Origin from ETERNITY, can something with beginning existing in ETERNITY JaNosense?

"His ORIGIN is from the days of yore" Hebrew text of Micah 5:2.

Trinitarian FORGERY: "Existing from eternity"
Oga continue deceiving yourself.

cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 5:53am On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:
"His ORIGIN is from the days of yore" Hebrew text of Micah 5:2.

Trinitarian FORGERY: "Existing from eternity"
Oga continue deceiving yourself.

Days of yore = ancient days. Tells us the beginning of that ancient days since you know Jesus had a beginning. cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 5:57am On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:

Birds of a feather flock together - your IQ too low to comprehend facts, especially from your own Bible.
.
The word honor has the same meaning in all verses of the scriptures.

In addition,
Oga use Biblehub study every translation of
1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13 until that scripture sinks into your skull.

Oga, go & emancipate yourself.

Werey peddling brains deflecting as usual. Simple question, do you honor your parent just like you honor God?

Had your werey peddling brains worked very well you will readily accept

Jehovah and Jesus trust your GODS OF MEN HOUSED IN USA completely and Janosky aka JaNosense must do so but honoring cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:00am On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:
Emusan Illiterate dunce miscreant.

Going by your MUMU, all your Trinitarian Bibles at Exodus 7:1 are inaccurate as well.

Your low IQ won't comprehend that God calls His sons (plural) gods in your own Bible, Psalms 82:1,6.
"Like God" meaning godlike or a god .

Dummy please Continue WAILING and proving your IBERIBEISM.

Your werey peddling brains ran into inaccurate translation first to deflect and drive home your werey peddling brains answers to questions. grin

Your low IQ peddlings of your brains can be readily seen regarding that as you keep wailing and showcasing your IBERIBEISM peddlings grin

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:02am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
But it's not about FIRST CREATED

Yes! Common expression for POSITION not FIRST CREATED.

That's not the point of the writer.

Where FIRSTBORN ARE USED in from Genesis to Revelation has where the object isn't THE FIRST PERSON given birth to in the family has ALWAY BEEN ABOUT HIGHER RANK

Neither is it a direct meaning of FIRST CREATED.

Apostle Paul completed explained what he meant when he said Chirst is the FIRSTBORN it simply means PREEMINENCE.

Did you not read that from Paul?

Then why do you say the Son of God is NOT GOD?

Jesus is the Creator, He created you, Michael and everything in the universe.

Yahweh is not a limited God who needs a lesser god to help Him in creation or lie lie God since He CALIMED HE CREATED ALL THING ALL BY HIMSELF.

Micah 5:2 is never in your support, as you can't still removed that delusion from your head.

Micah 5:2 is another evidence that Jesus never had BEGINNING.

That Micah still giving JaNosense headache. He picked it up and he is struggling to advance his mumu and no get sense peddling of his werey peddling brains about it. grin

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:04am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
That is to show you how they are so angry with anything in the scripture that proved Jesus to be Almighty God.

As you see him, he agreed with his fellow Jws on this forum that the Apostle actually MADE MISTAKE and because of that Bible actually contradicted (even though they can't make such statement in their hall) yet Jesus never corrected them.

Na person wey sabi Jehovah’s witnesses go quickly tell you their mode of operation. They have mastered the acts of even manipulating those they call pioneers in their midst to give varying answers when attending questions of those on the outside and then give a different answer to those on the inside. grin

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:06am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
Do you honor your father and mother JUST AS you honor Jehovah?

This JaNosense quoted me and started calling another moniker which shows how confused he was.

When no room for him to deflection he needs back up cheesy

Janosky honours Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses just as he honours God since Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses said he must trust them completely. Not doing so is trouble for the spiritual life and survival of Janosky aka JaNosense. He will be called mentally diseased when he chose not to honor Governing body grin

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:07am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
Which mean your NWT added to what is not in the original Hebrew.

See how this JaNosense keeps proving that his beloved NWT is inaccurate.

Na deflection strategy cheesy

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:08am On Oct 29, 2024

TemmyT002:
It was his father who gave him a name that is above every other name. He didn't give himself.

Do you even know the explanations of your GODS of men housed in USA regarding that Bible account? cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:09am On Oct 29, 2024

MaxInDHouse:
You are using the Bible to clarify matters while discussing with people who believes their God is MYSTERIOUS.

Now that's where the problem lies!

Your God remains a scared secret aka mysterious. That your NWT supports it. Your madness and insanities peddling brains knows that. You can choose to deflect. cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 6:12am On Oct 29, 2024

Emusan:
So you saying okay and me saying BETTER is now and headache to you.

Come out plain, stop doing hide and seek

He knows our monikers on nairaland alone are evidence of him being a worst fool on nairaland cheesy

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by TemmyT002(m): 1:23pm On Oct 29, 2024

achorladey:
Do you even know the explanations of your GODS of men housed in USA regarding that Bible account?

Bros, what are you talking about?
I am a CAC member. I also attend Redeemed.
Wetin concern me with USA

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by achorladey: 2:05pm On Oct 29, 2024

TemmyT002:
Bros, what are you talking about?
I am a CAC member. I also attend Redeemed.
Wetin concern me with USA

No vex. The comment was a build up of what I was following up till that post of yours. Don't bother about the part I stated....

your GODS of men housed in USA regarding that Bible account?

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:05pm On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:
"His ORIGIN is from the days of yore" Hebrew text of Micah 5:2.

Trinitarian FORGERY: "Existing from eternity"
Oga continue deceiving yourself.

Mr continue to deceive yourself.

You haven't answered my question.

Can something with ORIGIN exist in ETERNITY? cheesy

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:16pm On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:
Low IQ dunce forming woke.
Every first BORN in your Bible was created prior to their PREEMINENCE.

Now, the evidence is cleared.

Paul was actually talking about PREEMINENCE and not FIRST CREATED.

It's lie lie people LIKE YOU who changed it to FIRST CREATED.

Study Genesis 49:3 & stop your IBERIBEISM
First born in that verse is distinct from PREEMINENCE.

This Gen 49:3 “Reuben, you are my firstborn, my strength, the child of my vigorous youth. You are first in rank and first in power."

How did it different Mr deceiving yourself? cheesy

Study 1 Corinthians 11:3,11-12 until you comprehend.

1 Timothy 6:13, 1 Corinthians 11:11-12. Hebrew 1:2.
1 Corinthians 8:6. Isaiah 44:24
Yahweh the God (ho Theos @ John 1:1) created ALL THINGS".

Not your 3 deities invented at Nicene

Exactly my point.

So Yahweh CREATED ALL THINGS ALL BY HIMSELF.

So, where did your lesser god joined the GREAT YAHWEH at creation?

You just confirmed my point that no god assisted the Great Yahweh during creation.

Did you see your 2nd person and 3rd person deities at Isaiah 44:24?
Yahweh Hmself does not recognize your 3 deities invented by men at Nicene 381 AD.
Pls remain stuck in your delusion invented at Nicene.

Bcod the THREE ARE ONE!

SO, WHERE DID YOU SEE A LESSER GOD assisting The Great Yahweh?

Oga, you can continue WAILING all your life.
You see that Hebrew text of Micah 5:2, it has existed before your delusion invented at Nicene.
"His (Jesus) ORIGIN is from of old, the days of yore"

The DAYS OF YORE means ETERNITY

Can something with ORIGIN exist in ETERNITY?

JaNosense? grin

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:19pm On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:
Emusan dunce for life

Very low IQ guy forming woke.

Go and find out the root meaning of Greek 'mono' & Greek 'genes'.

Or
Upgrade your dunce level

He couldn't answer my simple question because he knows his pot of lies will be opened.

What is the meaning of BEGOTTEN?

Let's see if all Abraham children are not BEGOTTEN and ALL ANGELS ARE NOT BEGOTTEN according to your definition of BEGOTTEN cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:27pm On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:
Birds of a feather flock together - your IQ too low to comprehend facts, especially from your own Bible.

Irrelevant nonsense.

The word honor has the same meaning in all verses of the scriptures.

So, you agree that the way you honor Jehovah is the same way you honor your mother and father, since the word HONOR has the same meaning in all verses of the scripture.

In addition,
Oga use Biblehub study every translation of
1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13 until that scripture sinks into your skull.

Oga, go & emancipate yourself.

[/b]

The point this delude JaNosense didn't understand yet is that Jesus OPENLY SAID you should HONOR Him JUST AS you honor the Father.

How do you honor the Father?

Even your perverted translation put it this way

"so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father..."

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Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Emusan(m): 4:33pm On Oct 29, 2024

Janosky:
Emusan Illiterate dunce miscreant.

Going by your MUMU, all your Trinitarian Bibles at Exodus 7:1 are inaccurate as well.

Your low IQ won't comprehend that God calls His sons (plural) gods in your own Bible, Psalms 82:1,6.
"Like God" meaning godlike or a god .

Dummy please Continue WAILING and proving your IBERIBEISM.

So, what is your point?

If not because your brain is paining you.

I said Moses was MADE LIKE GOD not that Moses was GOD!

You jumped into my mention by started saying rubbish as if I'm wrong.

Even your deluded fellow has realized his folly by keeping shut because scripture did not say MOSES WAS GOD as he early lied.

JaNosense I asked again what exactly did you want to prove by quoting me in the first place?

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by sonmvayina(m): 8:01pm On Oct 29, 2024

If Harry Potter is not a wizard, he wouldn't have had a book written about him....

If Jesus was not god he wouldn't have been able to do these ...

So I am not allowed to make the characters in my book do anything?. Is that not what makes a good writer..

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Gabrielshow24: 11:06pm On Oct 29, 2024

MaxInDHouse:
FIRST BORN of CREATION is a CREATURE!

Then how was he created?

Perhaps you will like to explain to the world how preexisting Jesus was created?

And why you use the term "creature" for a self existing and timeless being?

When you are done with these?
Explain to me the theme of that chapter?

And how it warranted you to interpret it literally?

I want to know your school of thought and how deep your understanding is!

Surprise me!

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Janosky: 3:47pm On Oct 30, 2024

Gabrielshow24:
Then how was he created?

Perhaps you will like to explain to the world how preexisting Jesus was created?

And why you use the term "creature" for a self existing and timeless being?

When you are done with these?
Explain to me the theme of that chapter?

And how it warranted you to interpret it literally?

I want to know your school of thought and how deep your understanding is!

Surprise me!

Did Yahweh explain to you how Yahweh created the spiritual realm and those spirits dwelling in heaven?

Why would you expect Yahweh to explain how he created the spirit being called Jesus?
Your Trinitarian godfathers at Nicene coined the term "self-existing & timeless being" to suit their man made doctrine.

Micah 5:2 Hebrew text disagrees.
Colossians 1:15 disagrees.
Revelation 3:14, Jesus disagrees.
1 Corinthians 11:12
1 Timothy 6:13 disagrees
John 5:26, Jesus Christ disagrees.
"Woman came from man, EVERYTHING (Jesus Christ NOT excepted) comes from the God".

Re: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by Gabrielshow24: 4:05pm On Oct 30, 2024

Janosky:
Did Yahweh explain to you how Yahweh created the spiritual realm and those spirits dwelling in heaven?

Your Trinitarian godfathers at Nicene coined that term "self-existing & timeless being" to suit their man made doctrine.

Micah 5:2 Hebrew text disagrees.

Colossians 1:15 disagrees.
Revelation 3:14, Jesus disagrees.
1 Corinthians 11:12
.,.
1 Timothy 6:13 disagrees
John 5:26, Jesus Christ disagrees.
"Woman came from man, EVERYTHING (Jesus Christ NOT excepted) comes from the God".

You quote most of these verses off context!

No one is disputing that!
Jesus said "of my own self I can do nothing save whatsoever the son sees his Father do"

But the fact remains that "both existed in a timeless realm"

That's the take home!
Jesus confirmed his predation of the world!

As usual you forgot to include that!
Read the entire scriptures don't cherrypick and gain full understanding!

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