₦airaland Forum

DaddyCoool:
A whole bunch of countries Nigerians are dying to japa to are doing great without them.
I bet u if China, US, UK, etc had a whole bunch of useless "kings" they won't be doing as well as they're doing

Chinese with proliferation of dynasties never saw progress until they abolished such nonsense. In modern era, there should be no power for traditional rulers in Yorubaland except if they want to abolish democracy for monarchy and it would be 2 steps forward to 20 steps backward. Blacks don’t not reason well and one of the reasons we are at the lowest ebbs of all human intelligence.

Topman7:
Mr Oyinbo, BOTSWANA is one of Africa’s best governed, most prosperous, and stable economies, and has been so for decades.

Guess what distinguishes them from other African nations?

They have a House of Chiefs, who are traditional rulers acting as their peoples’ representatives by constitution, right up there as another arm of the govt, alongside the National Assembly, House of Reps, Senate, etc.

Unlike you mentally colonised people, they do not shun their heritage and worship everything white.

They are a proud African people who have decided to do the right thing, by marrying their rich cultural heritage to modern governance systems in a way that enables INCLUSIVITY and grassroots representation in decision-making at the highest levels of government.

That’s EXACTLY what we need in Nigeria.

You are right but the problem is that BOTSWANA is NOT Nigeria. Our traditional leaders just like our Politicians only see Nigeria as a cash cow to be plundered. In fact , they are even worse than our colonial masters.

All these moves are just to ensure that they annihilate the role of the third tier of the government, the local government, and still control its funding.

Did they do it before not until Tinubu’s government correctly enforced the law. Imagine a town that runs hereditary system of traditional ruler ship . Now brother will be divided more because of this empowerment to the tradition rulers, watch and see

I’m a typical Yoruba man and I hope the house rejected according power to the Titular Traditional leaders. They are out of touch with present reality in Yorubaland. All they do is colluding with whims and caprices of Yorubaland. Indians and Chinese should have moved the frontier of science beyond the current state of their climes but they were so much imbibed in their cultures and playing kings and pawns become excuses for inertia. Not until such time that they deposed all their kings and queens that they are able to move forward. Obaship will soon become the things of the past.

DonMcek:
All these moves are just to ensure that they annihilate the role of the third tier of the government, the local government, and still control its funding.

Did they do it before not until Tinubu’s government correctly enforced the law. Imagine a town that runs hereditary system of traditional ruler ship . Now brother will be divided more because of this empowerment to the tradition rulers, watch and see

Good pointer and excellent submission!

Cocolatti:
You are right but the problem is that BOTSWANA is NOT Nigeria. Our traditional leaders just like our Politicians only see Nigeria as a cash cow to be plundered. In fact , they are even worse than our colonial masters.

Good pointer and excellent submission!

Wisdomkosi:
Source : https://politicsnigeria.com/governors-move-to-establish-constitutional-role-for-traditional-rulers/

Some persons in Northern Nigeria will love Taliban style if governance in their region.

ElSudani:
What about countries that are doing great with them?

Which country(s) pls

akigbemaru:
Chinese with proliferation of dynasties never saw progress until they abolished such nonsense. In modern era, there should be no power for traditional rulers in Yorubaland except if they want to abolish democracy for monarchy and it would be 2 steps forward to 20 steps backward. Blacks don’t not reason well and one of the reasons we are at the lowest ebbs of all human intelligence.

Exactly! Institutions they should be discussing ways towards ABOLISHING them. Seems this country is truly cursed.

ElSudani:
What about countries that are doing great with them?

I gave examples. Give yours

Topman7:
Mr Oyinbo, BOTSWANA is one of Africa’s best governed, most prosperous, and stable economies, and has been so for decades.

Guess what distinguishes them from other African nations?

They have a House of Chiefs, who are traditional rulers acting as their peoples’ representatives by constitution, right up there as another arm of the govt, alongside the National Assembly, House of Reps, Senate, etc.

Unlike you mentally colonised people, they do not shun their heritage and worship everything white.

They are a proud African people who have decided to do the right thing, by marrying their rich cultural heritage to modern governance systems in a way that enables INCLUSIVITY and grassroots representation in decision-making at the highest levels of government.

That’s EXACTLY what we need in Nigeria.

You called me Mr. Oyinbo, I don't want to call you MR. IDIOT! So you think Nigeria will be better off if we add another bloated, useless "House of Chiefs" to our already bloated, money-guzzling govt? It is people like you that prove to me this country is truly cursed and is simply irredeemable

sammirano:
Na Person say make you no get king

Unlike you I'm smart enough to know that our king is king ONLY because of atrocities and subjugation of my ancestors perpetrated by his ancestors, and instead of being punished for sins of his fathers, he's made king! This life no balance

DaddyCoool:
I gave examples. Give yours

There are many, all you need to do is simply Google search.

ElSudani:
There are many, all you need to do is simply Google search.

Already knew you couldn't
QED

DaddyCoool:
Already knew you couldn't
QED

What arrant nonsense. Without a Google search any average student should be able to name at least three modern countries with a monarchy.
What is being proposed is nothing near the absolute monarchy being practiced is some other countries.

ElSudani:
What arrant nonsense.

Like I said,
QED

Lol oba will now obey the rule of the governor

DaddyCoool:
Like I said,
QED

A beg shift. You think I have the time for a silly argument?

ElSudani:
■ It is absolutely not a useless institution.

What role are these institutions to play that they are not able to now? I don't understand this bill at all. What is the point of this?

Alexiiydon:
Lol oba will now obey the rule of the governor

This makes no sense of any kind. Basically, this is like institutionalizing local yakuza/kingpins. What for? Why?

Topman7:
■ Mr Oyinbo, BOTSWANA is one of Africa’s best governed, most prosperous, and stable economies, and has been so for decades. Guess what distinguishes them from other African nations?
They have a House of Chiefs, who are traditional rulers acting as their peoples’ representatives by constitution, right up there as another arm of the govt, alongside the National Assembly, House of Reps, Senate, etc. Unlike you mentally colonised people, they do not shun their heritage and worship everything white. They are a proud African people who have decided to do the right thing, by marrying their rich cultural heritage to modern governance systems in a way that enables INCLUSIVITY and grassroots representation in decision-making at the highest levels of government. That’s EXACTLY what we need in Nigeria.

So, this bill is to have heritage shoved up the arse of every Nigeria, even those who have clearly abandoned it as they rightfully can and should be able to?

Why not simply give the Northerners who wish to force Sharia on the entire nation that access as well since rather than respect people's individual right to choice, you wish to have ideas forced on them against their will?

Kobojunkie:
What role are these institutions to play that they are not able to now? I don't understand this bill at all. What is the point of this?

Have you seen the list of the constitutional roles the governors would like to see in the constitution? I haven't seen them. But if those roles are the same as those being performed right now then the argument is why should these roles be enshrined in the constitution. My own take is why not?

ElSudani:
■ Have you seen the list of the constitutional roles the governors would like to see in the constitution? I haven't seen them. But if those roles are the same as those being performed right now then the argument is why should these roles be enshrined in the constitution. My own take is why not?

What in the world is this?🙄🙄🙄🙄 You would equally need to enshrine the roles of imams and religious leaders while you are at it Since they too guard traditions aka religion.

Are the roles performed right now by individual citizens in Nigeria equally enshrined in the same constitution? Let's make sure to add everything to the constitution while we are at it.

DaddyCoool:
A whole bunch of countries Nigerians are dying to japa to are doing great without them.
I bet u if China, US, UK, etc had a whole bunch of useless "kings" they won't be doing as well as they're doing

UK has a king

Kobojunkie:
Are the roles performed right now by individual citizens in Nigeria equally enshrined in the same constitution?

Whatever role you perform as a private citizen are things within your rights, not to be confused with Public service which is a privilege.
You can't just walk into the national assembly and declare yourself the speaker even when you snd whoever is going to hold the position are equally citizens.

ElSudani:
■ Whatever role you perform as a private citizen are things within your rights, not to be confused with Public service which is a privilege.
■ You can't just walk into the national assembly and declare yourself the speaker even when you snd whoever is going to hold the position are equally citizens.

Now, na public service we go call wetin your traditional rulers(imams and pastorpreneurs) do, right? Should we equally enshrine the role of activists(some of them even lawyers) in the Constitution while we are at it?

2. Huh? The office and seat are clearly defined in the Constitution for the sake of making laws that apply as far as all Nigerians. What has that to do with this topic?

Kobojunkie:
Now, na public service we go call wetin your traditional rulers(imams and pastorpreneurs) do, right? Should we equally enshrine the role of activists(some of them even lawyers) in the Constitution while we are at it?

2. Huh? The office and seat are clearly defined in the Constitution for the sake of making laws that apply as far as all Nigerians. What has that to do with this topic?

How did "patorprenuers" of whatever got into this conversation?

ElSudani:
■ How did "patorprenuers" of whatever got into this conversation?

They do the same things your chiefs and local lords do in Nigeria.

Kobojunkie:
They do the same things your chiefs and local lords do in Nigeria.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are just comparing things that are not similar in any way.

opicgif:
UK has a king

A King! Not a whole bunch of useless "kings"!
UK is a monarchy, Nigeria is NOT! And they're even trying to abolish it, but for the tourism money it attracts

ElSudani:
A beg shift. You think I have the time for a silly argument?

Who is arguing with you. Only an idiot doesn't know there is no country with a whole bunch of kings doing great. None

ElSudani:
■ You have no idea what you are talking about. You are just comparing things that are not similar in any way.

Your politicians seem to thnk differently. They wine, dine, and bribe your many traditional leaders the same they do religious ones because they realize they serve the same purpose which is to keep the people pacified and distracted with the meaningless at the local levels.