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sonmvayina:
No boy..only part of the Tanakh is prophetic.
A prophet is not somebody that predicts the future. He/she is somebody that tells the truth and leads people to God by advising them to keep the Torah...

That's not what prophet means prophet means someone who PROPHESY so you are wrong!

MaxInDHouse:
That's not what prophet means prophet means someone who PROPHESY so you are wrong!

That is secondary...

The primary purpose is to tell the truth and encourage people to keep the Torah..see Isaiah 1 &2

[1] The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. [2] Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.

Is it clear now?

sonmvayina:
That is secondary...

PROPHETS PROPHESIES simply as ABC.

MaxInDHouse:
PROPHETS PROPHESIES simply as ABC.

Prophecy about what?

sonmvayina:
Prophecy about what?

So you suddenly lost what prophecy means shey?

MaxInDHouse:
So you suddenly lost what prophecy means shey?

Provide the answer Mr Jehovahs witness..

sonmvayina:
Provide the answer Mr Jehovahs witness..

Ọmọ humbly go and ask any Sunday School teacher to tell you what prophecy means!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ humbly go and ask any Sunday School teacher to tell you what prophecy means!

Did you see what Isaiah wrote in chapter 1:1?

sonmvayina:
Did you see what Isaiah wrote in chapter 1:1?

Quote and explain let's hear what your God dwelling within you have to say about it!

sonmvayina:
Why only Jesus gets a second do over.
Why not all the other men who claimed to be the Messiah in the 1st century CE. If Jesus gets a second coming pass, they too should still get a second coming arrangement.
You see the reason why the Messiah has to do those things the first time?

Lol. Your comments always amuse me.

The scriptures foretold that fake Messiahs would appear and they did but all those fake Messiahs missed significant prophesies which were fulfilled only by Jesus. Please list any Messianic prophesy you know, I'll tell you how Jesus fulfilled it. If it's a future prophesy, I'll give the the timeline for its fulfillment.

Please understand that God is interested in the whole nations of the world, not the Jews alone. God told Abraham, "In thee shall all the nations of the earth be blessed." The blessedness is not in material gains but in reconciliation with God. Satan rules this world, so God picked Abraham and started working through him to execute a plan that would bring mankind back to God. There is nothing special about the Jews. The only privilege they have is in their Patriarch. The Messiah is not for them alone but for the whole world. Though, He'll rule from Jerusalem, His purpose transcends the boundaries of Jewish nationalism. He is a global King.

His first coming was to set the up a system for spiritual reconciliation between God and man. His second coming is to exercise authority over the earth and judge all unrighteousness.

GothamCities:
Lol. Your comments always amuse me.

The scriptures foretold that fake Messiahs would appear and they did but all those fake Messiahs missed significant prophesies which were fulfilled only by Jesus. Please list any Messianic prophesy you know, I'll tell you how Jesus fulfilled it. If it's a future prophesy, I'll give the the timeline for its fulfillment.

Please understand that God is interested in the whole nations of the world, not the Jews alone. God told Abraham, "In thee shall all the nations of the earth be blessed." The blessedness is not in material gains but in reconciliation with God. Satan rules this world, so God picked Abraham and started working through him to execute a plan that would bring mankind back to God. There is nothing special about the Jews. The only privilege they have is in their Patriarch. The Messiah is not for them alone but for the whole world. Though, He'll rule from Jerusalem, His purpose transcends the boundaries of Jewish nationalism. He is a global King.

His first coming was to set the up a system for spiritual reconciliation between God and man. His second coming is to exercise authority over the earth and judge all unrighteousness.

See my post on "the purpose of the Messiah" and tell me which one Jesus fulfilled. Where is it stated in the Tanakh that fake messiah's will come?

I noticed you said it is Satan that rules this world. Please how did he get rulership of this world? Did he defeat God in an arm wrestling or a boxing match?

HE IS NOW BEYOND GOD OF ISRAEL. HE IS GOD OF EVERY CREED. HE IS GOD. HE IS "OLODUMARE".

GothamCities:
Because I didn't believe in a prophet who married a 4 yr old girl, had no endorsement from God, contradicted all scripture, murdered those who rejected his prophethood, ribbed caravans, snatched the wife of his stepson and had no single witness of his fake jibreel. A man was a terrorist and whose followers are the terrorists of this world.

There's nothing godly about Mohammed to made anyone believe his words. It can only be blindness.

Which guys prophesied? Are they Gods? Who told you that everyone who prophesies was sent by God?

The miracle of the Corona virus is that many Christians continued to gather in large numbers, for example, Winners Chapel, yet no outbreak was recorded among the people.

You're following a dead man who had no assurance of salvation.

Thank you! I will follow Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam till I die by Allah's grace! All the falsehood peddling won't deter anyone from Islam!

It's usual for a Christian to lie that the Prophet married a 4 year old and all sort of lies without evidence!

While in their Bible worse crimes are committed in the name of their God yet they give excuses claiming to be inspired by one spirit!

Numbers 31:17-18 and 1 Samuel 15:3 is your memory verse!

What's godly about Moses, Samson, Joshua, Saul, David and others who killed many and took booties on Yahweh's command?

How was the Prophet a terrorist? I would have loved to see your holy spirit inspired evidence for that which is worse than what was committed on behalf of Yahweh in the Bible!

You're asking me who prophesied? Ask Google! Search nairaland! Muslims were not the ones claiming the world is about to end whenever any big event emerges in the world!

The kingdom of God is at hand has been parroted for over 2000 years now! And I think you'll die and yet it won't come!

As for your winners, they are no more than any other Christian denomination! They will always have rich people as well as all shades of poor people! They've got many fruitful women and as well many barren women! Also healthy and diseased people will always be everywhere! So there's nothing special about your mentioned winners! How many winners attendees can send their wards to the church school without scholarship?

And finally, you ended with a lie that the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam has no assurance of salvation! This is clear from the Qur'an and Sunnah.

Our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) will be the first one to enter Paradise in the full and real sense in the Hereafter.

It was narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I will come to the gate of Paradise on the Day of Resurrection and will ask for it to be opened. The keeper will say: ‘Who are you?’ I will say, ‘Muhammad.’ He will say: ‘I was commanded not to open it for anyone before you.’” Narrated by Muslim (193).

And we believe all other Prophets including Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Solomon, David, Elisha, Elijah, John the baptist, Jonah, Job, Noah, Adam, Joseph, Jacob, Isaac, Ishmael, Daniel, Isaiah, etc. will follow him.

sonmvayina:
See my post on "the purpose of the Messiah" and tell me which one Jesus fulfilled. Where is it stated in the Tanakh that fake messiah's will come?

I noticed you said it is Satan that rules this world. Please how did he get rulership of this world? Did he defeat God in an arm wrestling or a boxing match?

The purpose of the Messiah (Christ) is to first unite all integrity keepers throughout the earth and later on destroy all evildoers.

He can't justifiably do that without first coming to help honest hearted and sincere individuals know how his government will operate that's why he must first come to enlighten people as a Wonderful Counselor he needs to prove that he can use his authority to solve all our problems as a Mighty God he must also prove to be the father of all who cannot die but continue to cater for all those living as everlasting father and with the standard he will set peace will reign globally as the Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

He can't just come and force people to start doing things they never knew before so time is needed to do all of these that's why God arranged that he should be born in a country where the inhabitants have been in expectation of him {Habakkuk 2:3} so it's only a prepared people that can welcome him {Malachi 3:1; 4:5} and work with him to take this message about his righteous government to all the corners of the earth! Matthew 28:18-20

From the beginning God never told Adam that sin could be cleansed through sacrifice so Adam and Eve has died forever and ever as perfect humans blood sacrifices can only attone for the sin of imperfect humans who found themselves in a helpless and hopeless situation but can the blood of animals remove the damage Adamic sin caused?

The answer is NO because God told the Israelites to continue yearly to make attornment for their sins the only blood that can wipe out Adamic sin must be that of a perfect human who has no sin. Adam died for his own sin but he passed it on to all his children so another Adam who is without sin must lay down his life to attone for mankind's sin! 1Corinthians 15:45

Only the Messiah can do that that's why the book of Daniel said the Messiah will die! Daniel 9:26

The faithless Jews in the first century knew all these but they rejected Jesus of Nazareth due to their pride and arrogance they thought there is no need for them to go pleading with people of the nations they've always looked down upon as pagans when Jesus commanded his own disciples to go and make peace with everyone be it friend or foe {Matthew 5:43-48} to average Jew you ought to bow down before him as a pagan because his own ancestors were God's people but Jesus told his own disciples that it's not so they must love their neighbors as themselves! Mark 12:31

That's why your Jewish landlord taught you to hate Jesus and whoever has anything to do with him but there is no way they can convince the world that any other Messiah is coming now that the whole twelve tribes has been dispossessed of the land where God promised that the Messiah will come and meet them.

So whether you like it or not Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah those faithless Jews will perish in their disbelief {John 8:24} if they don't agree with what Jesus' disciples penned down from Matthew to Revelations!

GothamCities:
Thanks again for this. Sonmavyina says Jesus was a Roman invention. According to him, He never existed.

He should have said a "Greek invention"! The Romans built on the Greek cultures; most of the cultures and words gained currency in the Romans. The English word "Jesus" was originally from Greek. The problem of phonology across all tongues is the cause of debate about Jesus name. I have heard some people say it's the name of a Greek god, Zeus but one thing is certain and clear. One, the original meaning of the word is not lost. Two, the word "Jesus" is a sanctified name.
Most importantly, he should read the account about Jesus by Flavius Josephus, an historian and a Jew who was also a commander.
I AM A WITNESS JESUS EXISTED, HE IS EXISTING AND HE WILL EXIST.
Why is it that Christianity is the most persecuted "religion" in the world? Why is it that the name of God,YHWH and Jesus are the ones people speak against most?

Captain4Jehovah:
He should have said a "Greek invention"! The Romans built on the Greek cultures; most of the cultures and words gained currency in the Romans. The English word "Jesus" was originally from Greek. The problem of phonology across all tongues is the cause of debate about Jesus name. I have heard some people say it's the name of a Greek god, Zeus but one thing is certain and clear. One, the original meaning of the word is not lost. Two, the word "Jesus" is a sanctified name.
Most importantly, he should read the account about Jesus by Flavius Josephus, an historian and a Jew who was also a commander.
I AM A WITNESS JESUS EXISTED, HE IS EXISTING AND HE WILL EXIST.
Why is it that Christianity is the most persecuted "religion" in the world? Why is it that the name of God,YHWH and Jesus are the ones people speak against most?

Great questions here for a sincere seeker. But the problem here is that most critics are just critics for their own ulterior motives. Even in the face of truth, after all their misinformation have been exposed, they still remain critics. Genuine seekers are scarce. The world hates Jesus because it loves darkness.

AntiChristian:
Thank you! I will follow Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam till I die by Allah's grace! All the falsehood peddling won't deter anyone from Islam!

It's usual for a Christian to lie that the Prophet married a 4 year old and all sort of lies without evidence!

While in their Bible worse crimes are committed in the name of their God yet they give excuses claiming to be inspired by one spirit!

Numbers 31:17-18 and 1 Samuel 15:3 is your memory verse!

What's godly about Moses, Samson, Joshua, Saul, David and others who killed many and took booties on Yahweh's command?

How was the Prophet a terrorist? I would have loved to see your holy spirit inspired evidence for that which is worse than what was committed on behalf of Yahweh in the Bible!

You're asking me who prophesied? Ask Google! Search nairaland! Muslims were not the ones claiming the world is about to end whenever any big event emerges in the world!

The kingdom of God is at hand has been parroted for over 2000 years now! And I think you'll die and yet it won't come!

As for your winners, they are no more than any other Christian denomination! They will always have rich people as well as all shades of poor people! They've got many fruitful women and as well many barren women! Also healthy and diseased people will always be everywhere! So there's nothing special about your mentioned winners! How many winners attendees can send their wards to the church school without scholarship?

And finally, you ended with a lie that the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam has no assurance of salvation! This is clear from the Qur'an and Sunnah.

Our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) will be the first one to enter Paradise in the full and real sense in the Hereafter.

It was narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I will come to the gate of Paradise on the Day of Resurrection and will ask for it to be opened. The keeper will say: ‘Who are you?’ I will say, ‘Muhammad.’ He will say: ‘I was commanded not to open it for anyone before you.’” Narrated by Muslim (193).

And we believe all other Prophets including Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Solomon, David, Elisha, Elijah, John the baptist, Jonah, Job, Noah, Adam, Joseph, Jacob, Isaac, Ishmael, Daniel, Isaiah, etc. will follow him.

Muslims and lying are like 5 & 6. Who doesn't know about Mohammed? Mtcheww.

We're not followers of David, Samson, Joshua, Elijah , Elisha or any prophet of the Bible. Okay? We learn from their mistakes and their good deeds in order to know how to walk with God.

We follow the Lord Jesus only. The Kingdom of God is already within us. But you're blind, you can't see.

Even your prophet said he doesn't know what would be done to him. His double speaking in the Quran is so much that you'll know he was confused. At one time he said you should listen to Christians and Jews, at another time, he said you should kill them. Very confused fellow.

Mohammed that was fingering a 4yr old girl, Aisha and had sex with her at 9 while he was already 54 is a shameless human being.

Christians don't believe in any prophet. We believe in Jesus only. All prophets pointed us away from themselves towards Jesus, the Messiah. There's no one any more after the Messiah. The Messiah is God's ultimate provision for mankind. Anyone who elevates himself above the Messiah is a robber of souls.

Your prophet was a terrorist. You're just a liar who wants to cover up for your lying prophet who even had to order a woman to be killed because she challenged his prophethood. He ordered the woman's legs to be tied to two beasts who tore her apart while alive. Such level of wickedness is what blind fellows call the best of humans.

See how you jumped over most of the things that I said about Mohammed to pick on what you thought you could easily lie about. Mohammed was a robber, a child rapist, murderer and wife snatcher. He snatched the wife of his stepson.

The world will end, the Bible already gave us a timeline and the time is not yet. Only ignorant church goers such as the JWs and canal Christians think the world will end today. The regathering of Israel in 1948 is the foundational event that would set off a chain of other events that'll lead to the end of the world. 1948 happened as prophesied. You cannot deny that!

O boy! the other events also are happening one after the other. But as the scriptures has said, you lots won't see the time click of the world until the end comes upon you unawares. It's happening exactly.

We still have a few more events to the end of the world. Just keep watching. The next events are the complete recovery of Jerusalem. The pulling down of Al -aqsa mosque and the rebuilding of Solomon Temple on its same spot. Just keep watching.

The Scriptures say "The Temple will be rebuilt in troublous times". Israel is in troublous times already. The troublous time itself is a fulfilment of biblical prophecy. Then, after the rebuilding of the temple, other 3 major events will follow before the end will come. The end has an appointed time. It's already settled in the heavens.

You can die a Muslim if you want but I must tell you the truth, there are no 72 virgins anywhere. No Allah anywhere. Mohammed is suffering the fire of judgement where he is. Everyone who has died a Muslim is regretting where they are. Keep lying to yourself if you so choose, but I'll advice you to be wise and reconsider your ways for the salvation of your soul. Open your eyes! Jesus the Messiah is still waiting for you to save your soul. He's the Messiah of your soul. Not mohammed.

GothamCities:
Muslims and lying are like 5 & 6. Who doesn't know about Mohammed? Mtcheww.

You are the proven liar here with the claim that Muhammad married a 4 year old! This is just one of your lies!

We're not followers of David, Samson, Joshua, Elijah , Elisha or any prophet of the Bible. Okay? We learn from their mistakes and their good deeds in order to know how to walk with God.

Apologies as they had a different specie of Holy Spirit from the one you have today! Despite the Holy Spirit's presence in them they still make those mistakes! Just as you too are telling lies with your acclaimed Holy Spirit!

We follow the Lord Jesus only. The Kingdom of God is already within us. But you're blind, you can't see.

If it is with you then you should pray for death to come so that you can enter it sooner! May you not enter hell at last!

Even your prophet said he doesn't know what would be done to him. His double speaking in the Quran is so much that you'll know he was confused. At one time he said you should listen to Christians and Jews, at another time, he said you should kill them. Very confused fellow.

Different situations calls for different rulings! Holy Spirit will never explain this to you! You need to learn! But a mind that has been enclosed and programmed to believe lies will never ponder! Jesus was asked of the hour and he didn't know it! Ask him now if he knows it? The people who are to be killed are those who hurt the Muslims! There are many instances, settings and context which all you closed minded Christians would never calmly learn! And it will end up turning you to a liar!

Mohammed that was fingering a 4yr old girl, Aisha and had sex with her at 9 while he was already 54 is a shameless human being.

She wasn't married at 4! And what's wrong with his consummation at 9years? How is that your problem? Was Yahweh shameless when similar kids were shared to him and his warriors in Numbers 31? Double-face hypocrites! Tell us the ages of the virgins spared in Numbers 31:17-18?

Christians don't believe in any prophet. We believe in Jesus only. All prophets pointed us away from themselves towards Jesus, the Messiah. There's no one any more after the Messiah. The Messiah is God's ultimate provision for mankind. Anyone who elevates himself above the Messiah is a robber of souls.

That's why you are a disbeliever! Jesus was never mentioned anywhere by name in your Old testament! No one can read the Old Testament and have any idea about Jesus! Is it not the same OT Jews use today that they still curse Jesus and his mum?

Your prophet was a terrorist. You're just a liar who wants to cover up for your lying prophet who even had to order a woman to be killed because she challenged his prophethood. He ordered the woman's legs to be tied to two beasts who tore her apart while alive. Such level of wickedness is what blind fellows call the best of humans.

Yeah, Yahweh was a Terrorist too before He repented when Jesus came! This is another lie! It is proven that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) forbade the killing of women. Abu Dawud (2669) narrated that Rabah ibn Rabi‘ said: We were with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) on a campaign, and he saw the people gathered around something. He sent a man to find out what they were looking at, and he came back and told him that it was a woman who had been killed. He said: “Such a one could not have been a fighter.” Khalid ibn al-Walid was leading the vanguard of the army, so he sent a man to him and said: “Tell Khalid: Do not kill any woman or hired worker.”

See how you jumped over most of the things that I said about Mohammed to pick on what you thought you could easily lie about. Mohammed was a robber, a child rapist, murderer and wife snatcher. He snatched the wife of his stepson.

Show us the evidences of your claims! I have been quoting whatever i say in the Bible! You are simply a liar! Show us the context of the incidence with a reputable reference not just one tales by moonlight story!

The world will end, the Bible already gave us a timeline and the time is not yet. Only ignorant church goers such as the JWs and canal Christians think the world will end today. The regathering of Israel in 1948 is the foundational event that would set off a chain of other events that'll lead to the end of the world. 1948 happened as prophesied. You cannot deny that!

Where's 1948 written? So na the same Israeli Jews that abhors Christ and Christians will be your sign? God of Israel indeed!

O boy! the other events also are happening one after the other. But as the scriptures has said, you lots won't see the time click of the world until the end comes upon you unawares. It's happening exactly.

Which event happened exactly and where is written? Show us the script Israel is following?

We still have a few more events to the end of the world. Just keep watching. The next events are the complete recovery of Jerusalem. The pulling down of Al -aqsa mosque and the rebuilding of Solomon Temple on its same spot. Just keep watching.

Corona virus and 5G lies!

The Scriptures say "The Temple will be rebuilt in troublous times". Israel is in troublous times already. The troublous time itself is a fulfilment of biblical prophecy. Then, after the rebuilding of the temple, other 3 major events will follow before the end will come. The end has an appointed time. It's already settled in the heavens.

Which troubled times is Israel in? How many Israeli has died in the last one year? Is Palestine not in a precarious situation than them? How is this making any sense to you?

You can die a Muslim if you want but I must tell you the truth, there are no 72 virgins anywhere. No Allah anywhere. Mohammed is suffering the fire of judgement where he is. Everyone who has died a Muslim is regretting where they are. Keep lying to yourself if you so choose, but I'll advice you to be wise and reconsider your ways for the salvation of your soul. Open your eyes! Jesus the Messiah is still waiting for you to save your soul. He's the Messiah of your soul. Not mohammed.

It's none of my business what you believe in. And you shouldn't be bordered by mine too! You will be chanting your Haleluyah that remains from earth when you get to heaven right? Sorry! Enough with your lies! I see no Holy Spirit in you! Just the same devilish hate-filled lies being peddle by almost every average Christian this days! I didn't expect you to even know better! You are all same!

Jesus can't even save himself not to talk of you! And Muhammad was sent to bring us closer to Allah! He is not our savior like you do Jesus!
Too many errors in just one person!

AntiChristian:
You are the proven liar here with the claim that Muhammad married a 4 year old! This is just one of your lies!

Apologies as they had a different specie of Holy Spirit from the one you have today! Despite the Holy Spirit's presence in them they still make those mistakes! Just as you too are telling lies with your acclaimed Holy Spirit!

If it is with you then you should pray for death to come so that you can enter it sooner! May you not enter hell at last!

Different situations calls for different rulings! Holy Spirit will never explain this to you! You need to learn! But a mind that has been enclosed and programmed to believe lies will never ponder! Jesus was asked of the hour and he didn't know it! Ask him now if he knows it? The people who are to be killed are those who hurt the Muslims! There are many instances, settings and context which all you closed minded Christians would never calmly learn! And it will end up turning you to a liar!

She wasn't married at 4! And what's wrong with his consummation at 9years? How is that your problem? Was Yahweh shameless when similar kids were shared to him and his warriors in Numbers 31? Double-face hypocrites! Tell us the ages of the virgins spared in Numbers 31:17-18?

That's why you are a disbeliever! Jesus was never mentioned anywhere by name in your Old testament! No one can read the Old Testament and have any idea about Jesus! Is it not the same OT Jews use today that they still curse Jesus and his mum?

Yeah, Yahweh was a Terrorist too before He repented when Jesus came! This is another lie! It is proven that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) forbade the killing of women. Abu Dawud (2669) narrated that Rabah ibn Rabi‘ said: We were with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) on a campaign, and he saw the people gathered around something. He sent a man to find out what they were looking at, and he came back and told him that it was a woman who had been killed. He said: “Such a one could not have been a fighter.” Khalid ibn al-Walid was leading the vanguard of the army, so he sent a man to him and said: “Tell Khalid: Do not kill any woman or hired worker.”

Show us the evidences of your claims! I have been quoting whatever i say in the Bible! You are simply a liar! Show us the context of the incidence with a reputable reference not just one tales by moonlight story!

Where's 1948 written? So na the same Israeli Jews that abhors Christ and Christians will be your sign? God of Israel indeed!

Which event happened exactly and where is written? Show us the script Israel is following?

Corona virus and 5G lies!

Which troubled times is Israel in? How many Israeli has died in the last one year? Is Palestine not in a precarious situation than them? How is this making any sense to you?

It's none of my business what you believe in. And you shouldn't be bordered by mine too! You will be chanting your Haleluyah that remains from earth when you get to heaven right? Sorry! Enough with your lies! I see no Holy Spirit in you! Just the same devilish hate-filled lies being peddle by almost every average Christian this days! I didn't expect you to even know better! You are all same!

Jesus can't even save himself not to talk of you! And Muhammad was sent to bring us closer to Allah! He is not our savior like you do Jesus!
Too many errors in just one person!

I've told you the truth. I don't have the time to be arguing with you. Everything I said about Mohammed is in your books. They're things everyone knows. So, your rebuttals don't count.

Did Jesus raise the dead? Yes He did. Did He heal the sick, yes He did? How come He couldn't save Himself? He Himself provided answers before He went to the cross.

"No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.” John 10:18.

You said Coronavirus lies? Demons must be deceiving you. Check out historical records dear for all prophecies fulfilled. Except the devil is deceiving you, the literal fulfillment of these prophecies should tell you something.

At least you read the prophecies on the thread about Israel. It's been written about 3,000 years before 1948. and is now a fulfilled Bible Prophecy. Did you read where God said He would give an ensign to the Nations and then, they'll facilitate the return of the Jews to their land? Did you notice that it was the United Nations that fulfilled that prophecy with stunning accuracy? Did you notice that Israel was a nation born in 1 day after the Holocaust?

Did you notice that the Holocaust was prophesied too in scripture, and scriptures say it is the birth pangs that would cause a nation to be born, and that as soon as "Zion travails, it brought fought a male child; a nation would be born in one day." It happened literally to the letter.

I know Satan will not allow you see but it you live yourself, you'll force yourself to see. I can only tell you the truth. You already have plenty of information and opportunities. You would not have any excuse before God.

sonmvayina:
The YouTube have a name for The creator of heaven and earth...whether Oluwa, Olodumare, or Eledumare. They reverence the creator of the universe...
Contrary to popular belief, the African traditional religion is not Polytheistic in nature..They believe in only one Creator and God. What you think they call God is what they refer to as ORISHA, which represents the laws and principles of life. The Tanakh calls them the "sons of God" of which Satan is one of them who happens to be the ORISHA of the wind. He is Enlil in Babylonian mythology and his consort called Ninlil. I think his equivalent in yoruba mythology will be Ayao and osain. I might be wrong. I need clarification from yoruba people..
They are part of the universe. They are part of God's creation..
They do nothing outside of what God has created them to do.

The Jews also recognizes the Orishas and also their position in the scheme of things. See the book of job.
They are not God. Only Olodumare is God.
As for ifa, which is the word of God same as the Tanakh of the Jews. They are both the oracle of God. Since God is not a man or a human being, the only way to communicate with God is through an oracle(ifa). If you are conversant with Nollywood movies, when the chief priest want to deliver his message to the king, it is usually through parables. It is those parables the Jews built into stories. They all contain spiritual truth as messages in the story. They are not historical stories, but spiritual stories. Little wonder Paul said " The letter killeth"..

If you still don't understand...let me know.

I would like to answer you from each point raised by you per paragraph.

First Paragraph: Understand that there are many gods( I do not refer to images, be it molten or graven but rather, spiritual beings who want to be worshipped like the God of the universe, the living God) who peoples of nations worship thinking they are the creator of the universe. Jer. 10:11. These gods are fallen angels, demons reside in these images. I have heard about an Indian idol which opens its eyes and speaks once in a year. I have heard about a Bini idol which speaks. An ordinary molten or graven image cannot do these if there is no force in it! These are examples to justify the demons taking their residence in images,idols and statues.
Now my point is you should be careful who you reverence and his name used in worship. Is the being you esteem the creator of the heavens and earth? A case of this is seen in Jeremiah 7 and 44 in which the Israelites worshipped the queen of heaven just like some people worship the queen of the coast today. Are you actually serving the CREATOR of the heavens and the earth?
Second paragraph: What is polytheism? Is it the belief and serving of one god? No! "Poly" means many while "theo", a Greek word means god. Each religion of the world except Buddhism which I know is neither monotheism nor Polytheism, is polytheistic(Yoruba inclusive). Each has a supreme deity who oversees the rest of the gods(images, idols and spirit beings). Yoruba traditionlists BELIEVE in the creator of heaven and earth AND in other deities just like the pre-islamic adherents believed in Allah, the god. Serving two and many gods is what the living God, YHWH calls ADULTERY, HAVING AND SERVING OF TWO MASTERS AT A TIME.

The next two paragraphs: The two points here has only one answer: whether they are evil or good, it shows the SUPREMACY OF YHWH.(Psalm 24:1).

The next paragraph: The Jews serve ONLY ONE GOD, YHWH. Deu 6:4 and Judaism is monotheistic.

The next one: The first two sentences are contradicting. Who are not God? Olodumare IS NOT THE ONLY GOD! The word "god" is a general name used to refer to supernatural beings. Hence, it is a family name! Also, Ifa is not the word of God but an oracle of divination.

Captain4Jehovah:
I would like to answer you from each point raised by you per paragraph.

First Paragraph: Understand that there are many gods( I do not refer to images, be it molten or graven but rather, spiritual beings who want to be worshipped like the God of the universe, the living God) who peoples of nations worship thinking they are the creator of the universe. Jer. 10:11. These gods are fallen angels, demons reside in these images. I have heard about an Indian idol which opens its eyes and speaks once in a year. I have heard about a Bini idol which speaks. An ordinary molten or graven image cannot do these if there is no force in it! These are examples to justify the demons taking their residence in images,idols and statues.
Now my point is you should be careful who you reverence and his name used in worship. Is the being you esteem the creator of the heavens and earth? A case of this is seen in Jeremiah 7 and 44 in which the Israelites worshipped the queen of heaven just like some people worship the queen of the coast today. Are you actually serving the CREATOR of the heavens and the earth?
Second paragraph: What is polytheism? Is it the belief and serving of one god? No! "Poly" means many while "theo", a Greek word means god. Each religion of the world except Buddhism which I know is neither monotheism nor Polytheism, is polytheistic(Yoruba inclusive). Each has a supreme deity who oversees the rest of the gods(images, idols and spirit beings). Yoruba traditionlists BELIEVE in the creator of heaven and earth AND in other deities just like the pre-islamic adherents believed in Allah, the god. Serving two and many gods is what the living God, YHWH calls ADULTERY, HAVING AND SERVING OF TWO MASTERS AT A TIME.

The next two paragraphs: The two points here has only one answer: whether they are evil or good, it shows the SUPREMACY OF YHWH.(Psalm 24:1).

The next paragraph: The Jews serve ONLY ONE GOD, YHWH. Deu 6:4 and Judaism is monotheistic.

The next one: The first two sentences are contradicting. Who are not God? Olodumare IS NOT THE ONLY GOD! The word "god" is a general name used to refer to supernatural beings. Hence, it is a family name! Also, Ifa is not the word of God but an oracle of divination.

Ifa is the word of God...

Like I said, there is only one creator.
It is just the name that is different..

You keep mixing the Orishas with Olodumare. They are not Gods. They are the laws and principles of life.
Satan is the ORISHA of the wind
Devil is ORISHA of darkness
Lucifer is ORISHA of love,war death and destruction...

They are only personified just as the Jews personified them in their Tanakh. They are not human. God is not a man or a son of man...They just personified them to tell exoteric stories...

The only difference and problem with the nations and what you are also guilty of is going to God through an intermediary which God forbids. Some people go to God through one of his sons or ORISHA..But God forbid the Jews from doing so..."Do not have any other God before me"..but you still break it ,by going through Jesus.
You are also guilty of disobedience.

GothamCities:
I've told you the truth. I don't have the time to be arguing with you. Everything I said about Mohammed is in your books. They're things everyone knows. So, your rebuttals don't count.

I also don't have time. You are a liar if you can't show the evidences here. If i were to quote from Gospel of Barnabas here you will be the first to say it is not among the Gospels you acknowledge as part of your Bible! But you are the one quoting falsehood attributed to our Prophet in a fabricated narration that she killed a woman!

Did Jesus raise the dead? Yes He did. Did He heal the sick, yes He did? How come He couldn't save Himself? He Himself provided answers before He went to the cross.

He did all those miracles with prayer! Who was he praying to? His God! Jesus has a God who he confirms that is greater than him! He said it many times that he was sent i.e. he is a messenger! He even said he can of himself do nothing!

"No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.” John 10:18.

The father commanded him to die when He forbid killing already in the ten commandment? What a contradiction! How can salvation be in what has been forbidden?

You said Coronavirus lies? Demons must be deceiving you. Check out historical records dear for all prophecies fulfilled. Except the devil is deceiving you, the literal fulfillment of these prophecies should tell you something.

Which prophecy is being fulfilled? Yes, where is coronavirus now? Why is it not affecting us all anymore? Even Mpox the new one is on the decline!

At least you read the prophecies on the thread about Israel. It's been written about 3,000 years before 1948. and is now a fulfilled Bible Prophecy. Did you read where God said He would give an ensign to the Nations and then, they'll facilitate the return of the Jews to their land? Did you notice that it was the United Nations that fulfilled that prophecy with stunning accuracy? Did you notice that Israel was a nation born in 1 day after the Holocaust?

I no dey follow conspiracy theories cos in the end it will be like the Corona and 5G ruse!

Did you notice that the Holocaust was prophesied too in scripture, and scriptures say it is the birth pangs that would cause a nation to be born, and that as soon as "Zion travails, it brought fought a male child; a nation would be born in one day." It happened literally to the letter. I know Satan will not allow you see but it you live yourself, you'll force yourself to see. I can only tell you the truth. You already have plenty of information and opportunities. You would not have any excuse before God.

All these are simple conspiracy theories! I remember Netayanhu quoting 1 Samuel 15:3 for annihilating Palestinians!

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDYIQ_QdVY

And this is what you guys are celebrating as Prophecies today!

AntiChristian:
I also don't have time. You are a liar if you can't show the evidences here. If i were to quote from Gospel of Barnabas here you will be the first to say it is not among the Gospels you acknowledge as part of your Bible! But you are the one quoting falsehood attributed to our Prophet in a fabricated narration that she killed a woman!

So, it was fabricated? Even the ones you call Sahih are fabricated too? It's alright.

He did all those miracles with prayer! Who was he praying to? His God! Jesus has a God who he confirms that is greater than him! He said it many times that he was sent i.e. he is a messenger! He even said he can of himself do nothing!

Is that what we're discussing or you want to digress? I only showed you that Jesus could help Himself. If He did all those miracles, the He can help Himself. Why didn't Mohammed pray and do such miracles too?

The father commanded him to die when He forbid killing already in the ten commandment? What a contradiction! How can salvation be in what has been forbidden?

Did He kill Himself? That's not even the discussion. I showed you that He laid down His life by Himself. No one took it from Him.

Which prophecy is being fulfilled? Yes, where is coronavirus now? Why is it not affecting us all anymore? Even Mpox the new one is on the decline!

I no dey follow conspiracy theories cos in the end it will be like the Corona and 5G ruse!

All these are simple conspiracy theories! I remember Netayanhu quoting 1 Samuel 15:3 for annihilating Palestinians!

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDYIQ_QdVY

And this is what you guys are celebrating as Prophecies today!

Did you read what I posted before?

Let me give you a proof. The current nation of Israel cannot be removed anymore from their land even if the whole world gathers against them. That's biblical prophecy. All the Arab nations would keep attacking them and keep failing. That's prophecy too. Israel is a small nation but made mighty by the Word of God that established it. If Israel ceases to be a nation at anytime in the future, then the Bible is not the Word of God.

I won't say more than this to you!

GothamCities:
So, it was fabricated? Even the ones you call Sahih are fabricated too? It's alright.

You need to admit you goofed and lied here!

Is that what we're discussing or you want to digress? I only showed you that Jesus could help Himself. If He did all those miracles, the He can help Himself. Why didn't Mohammed pray and do such miracles too?

He said by himself he can do nothing! What does this mean? Muhammad did many great miracles and you won't believe it. Google is your teacher please!

Did He kill Himself? That's not even the discussion. I showed you that He laid down His life by Himself. No one took it from Him.

No one took it from him? And he put his face on the floor in Matthew 26:39 crying to God to save him oo!
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”

Same God he was depicted accusing on forsaking him! God never forsakes any of His loved one!

Did you read what I posted before?

Let me give you a proof. The current nation of Israel cannot be removed anymore from their land even if the whole world gathers against them. That's biblical prophecy. All the Arab nations would keep attacking them and keep failing. That's prophecy too. Israel is a small nation but made mighty by the Word of God that established it. If Israel ceases to be a nation at anytime in the future, then the Bible is not the Word of God.

I won't say more than this to you!

We also have a Prophecy that the Muslims will fight the Jews and defeat them as a sign of the end time!

Al-Bukhari (3593) and Muslim (2921) narrated from the hadith of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “The Jews will fight you and you will prevail over them, then a rock will say: ‘O Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.’”

In Saheeh Muslim (2922), it is narrated from the hadith of Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Hour will not begin until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims will kill them, until a Jew hides behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: O Muslim, O slave of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Except the gharqad (a thorny tree), for it is one of the trees of the Jews.”

In some reports there is an indication that the fighting against the Jews that is mentioned in this hadith will occur at the end of time, when the Dajjal emerges and the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) descends and fights him.

AntiChristian:
You need to admit you goofed and lied here!

Why did you avoid the question ?

He said by himself he can do nothing! What does this mean? Muhammad did many great miracles and you won't believe it. Google is your teacher please!

It means He did miracles through the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and Son. Both the Father and Son manifest power through the Holy Ghost.

So, Google is the one that would tell us about the miracles of Mohammed while his slave cannot?

No one took it from him? And he put his face on the floor in Matthew 26:39 crying to God to save him oo!
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”

Same God he was depicted accusing on forsaking him! God never forsakes any of His loved one!

Yes, no one took it from Him. He laid it down by Himself. He was asking the Father to withdraw the commandment of laying it down if possible. God didn't withdraw the commandment because that was the only way mankind can be redeemed. Jesus had to go through it and lay it down.

Yeah, for a moment, while He carried the sins of the world upon Himself, God had to look away from Him, for God cannot behold sin. It irritates Him.

We also have a Prophecy that the Muslims will fight the Jews and defeat them as a sign of the end time!

Al-Bukhari (3593) and Muslim (2921) narrated from the hadith of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “The Jews will fight you and you will prevail over them, then a rock will say: ‘O Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.’”

In Saheeh Muslim (2922), it is narrated from the hadith of Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Hour will not begin until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims will kill them, until a Jew hides behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: O Muslim, O slave of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Except the gharqad (a thorny tree), for it is one of the trees of the Jews.”

In some reports there is an indication that the fighting against the Jews that is mentioned in this hadith will occur at the end of time, when the Dajjal emerges and the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) descends and fights him.[/quote]But the defeat of the Jews will never happen. Lol. Go and write it down. It is the Word of the Almighty God. We'll see whose words will stand, whether that of God Almighty or that of Allah.

Then, the Jews are the ones to whom the promise of the Messiah was given. Why do Muslims want to defeat the same Jews who gave them the :prophets'? Lol.

sonmvayina:
Ifa is the word of God...

Like I said, there is only one creator.
It is just the name that is different..

You keep mixing the Orishas with Olodumare. They are not Gods. They are the laws and principles of life.
Satan is the ORISHA of the wind
Devil is ORISHA of darkness
Lucifer is ORISHA of love,war death and destruction...

They are only personified just as the Jews personified them in their Tanakh. They are not human. God is not a man or a son of man...They just personified them to tell exoteric stories...

The only difference and problem with the nations and what you are also guilty of is going to God through an intermediary which God forbids. Some people go to God through one of his sons or ORISHA..But God forbid the Jews from doing so..."Do not have any other God before me"..but you still break it ,by going through Jesus.
You are also guilty of disobedience.

If Ifa is the word of "God" in line with your belief then who is ELA in Yoruba pantheology? I know they cannot possibly be "the word of God" at the same time!

I agree with you that there is one Creator but WHAT IS ACTUAL, PERSONAL NAME OF THAT CREATOR? You yourself have a reserved personal name!

The devil, Satan and Lucifer you mentioned refer to one personality_he was a Cherub, one of the mightiest and powerful angels who ministered before El-shaddai(The Almighty God, whose name is YHWH) before man's age. The word "devil" means "slanderer", "accuser" which is the Greek word "diabolos". "Satan" means "antagonist" while "Lucifer" means "morning star" or "bearer of light". Orishas are spirits or gods in Yoruba pantheology.

I am not guilty of going to Jehovah through his son, Jesus. Those who are guilty are those who do not accept Jesus as their savior and they are already "condemned" as criminals while they live. Their sins are not remitted! They don't have "season of refreshment" because of their defiant heart to accept the person of Jesus. The peoples of the world still don't get it, you inclusive: BY GOING THROUGH JESUS, ALL GLORY IS CHANNELLED BACK TO THE ALMIGHTY GOD, JEHOVAH. And again, he never makes himself equal with The Almighty God for "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery (not like Lucifer) to be equal with God"
Philippians 2 : 6[ I added emphasis].

Jesus is real and he is your savior!

Captain4Jehovah:
If Ifa is the word of "God" in line with your belief then who is ELA in Yoruba pantheology? I know they cannot possibly be "the word of God" at the same time!

I agree with you that there is one Creator but WHAT IS ACTUAL, PERSONAL NAME OF THAT CREATOR? You yourself have a reserved personal name!

The devil, Satan and Lucifer you mentioned refer to one personality_he was a Cherub, one of the mightiest and powerful angels who ministered before El-shaddai(The Almighty God, whose name is YHWH) before man's age. The word "devil" means "slanderer", "accuser" which is the Greek word "diabolos". "Satan" means "antagonist" while "Lucifer" means "morning star" or "bearer of light". Orishas are spirits or gods in Yoruba pantheology.

I am not guilty of going to Jehovah through his son, Jesus. Those who are guilty are those who do not accept Jesus as their savior and they are already "condemned" as criminals while they live. Their sins are not remitted! They don't have "season of refreshment" because of their defiant heart to accept the person of Jesus. The peoples of the world still don't get it, you inclusive: BY GOING THROUGH JESUS, ALL GLORY IS CHANNELLED BACK TO THE ALMIGHTY GOD, JEHOVAH. And again, he never makes himself equal with The Almighty God for "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery (not like Lucifer) to be equal with God"
Philippians 2 : 6[ I added emphasis].

Jesus is real and he is your savior!

My creator is the one who saves me and trust me, he is not a Jewish man.i go to him directly. He is approachable..I don't have to go through anybody...
I don't need Jesus, even if he existed is on the same road as me...and moreover we where warned not to put our trust in any human being.
God is not a thing, God is the universe itself.

Continue idolatry...maybe when you grow up, you will understand..

sonmvayina:
My creator is the one who saves me and trust me, he is not a Jewish man.i go to him directly. He is approachable..I don't have to go through anybody...
I don't need Jesus, even if he existed is on the same road as me...and moreover we where warned not to put our trust in any human being.
God is not a thing, God is the universe itself.

Continue idolatry...maybe when you grow up, you will understand..

Jesus is a living God incarnate. He's a MYSTERY (who Is) boldly expressed and upheld by the TANAKH or you can call it MIQRA, MIKRA. The grave mistake made by the first century Jews for "selling" Jesus to the uncircumcised and ungodly Romans still continues today. Anyway, they fulfilled the prophecy as contained in the Tanakh you esteem. You know why? They misinterpreted the prophecy_he couldn't have possibly be our king; they expected a military commander who would liberate them from the inhumane treatment of them by the Romans. A testimony to this was the revolt of the Maccabees against the Greeks, the Seleucid Empire(named after one of the Alexander the great generals) which was a success.
Jesus proclaimed the name of YHWH clearly spelt in the Torah, Writings, Prophets, Poetry and History(History and Poetry were not canonized because they didn't meet the standards and yardsticks of acceptance as God's word) throughout the days of his ministry. He went to Jewish school and used the Hebrew Bible, called Scriptures then yet he was not a real figure or didn't exist. He attended Jewish gatherings, holy days and festivals and yet he didn't exist. He even highlighted serving of two masters yet he wasn't real and Christians are into idolatry:

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Matthew 6 : 24

A shift from Judaism occurred when the gentiles first referred to those who followed Christ's steps Christians. The apostles of his preached against idolatry in which Paul the apostle was a chief.

[2] For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; [3] How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Hebrews 2 : 2-3.

No be only god of Israel, na god of Netanyahu

Captain4Jehovah:
Jesus is a living God incarnate. He's a MYSTERY (who Is) boldly expressed and upheld by the TANAKH or you can call it MIQRA, MIKRA. The grave mistake made by the first century Jews for "selling" Jesus to the uncircumcised and ungodly Romans still continues today. Anyway, they fulfilled the prophecy as contained in the Tanakh you esteem. You know why? They misinterpreted the prophecy_he couldn't have possibly be our king; they expected a military commander who would liberate them from the inhumane treatment of them by the Romans. A testimony to this was the revolt of the Maccabees against the Greeks, the Seleucid Empire(named after one of the Alexander the great generals) which was a success.
Jesus proclaimed the name of YHWH clearly spelt in the Torah, Writings, Prophets, Poetry and History(History and Poetry were not canonized because they didn't meet the standards and yardsticks of acceptance as God's word) throughout the days of his ministry. He went to Jewish school and used the Hebrew Bible, called Scriptures then yet he was not a real figure or didn't exist. He attended Jewish gatherings, holy days and festivals and yet he didn't exist. He even highlighted serving of two masters yet he wasn't real and Christians are into idolatry:

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Matthew 6 : 24

A shift from Judaism occurred when the gentiles first referred to those who followed Christ's steps Christians. The apostles of his preached against idolatry in which Paul the apostle was a chief.

[2] For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; [3] How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Hebrews 2 : 2-3.

God is not a man or a son of man. God is the universe itself.
And jesus is it the universe.

There is no mention of jesus in the tanakh, like you rightly affirmed, messiah means anointed king. Jesus was never anointed. So he can be a king. Moreover he is not from the tribe of Judah.

God never said the messiah will be worshipped or be a sacrifice for sin.
You are just fighting tooth and nail because you don't want to accept the fact that you are wasting your life believing a lie...

sonmvayina:
God is not a man or a son of man. God is the universe itself.
And jesus is it the universe.

There is no mention of jesus in the tanakh, like you rightly affirmed, messiah means anointed king. Jesus was never anointed. So he can be a king. Moreover he is not from the tribe of Judah.

God never said the messiah will be worshipped or be a sacrifice for sin.
You are just fighting tooth and nail because you don't want to accept the fact that you are wasting your life believing a lie...

And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1 John 3 : 23

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sonmvayina:
God is not a man or a son of man. God is the universe itself.
And jesus is it the universe.

There is no mention of jesus in the tanakh, like you rightly affirmed, messiah means anointed king. Jesus was never anointed. So he can be a king. Moreover he is not from the tribe of Judah.

God never said the messiah will be worshipped or be a sacrifice for sin.
You are just fighting tooth and nail because you don't want to accept the fact that you are wasting your life believing a lie...

I AM A LIVING TESTIMONY OF THE LIE THE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD RECEIVE NOT that JESUS WAS, IS AND HE IS A COMING KING TO RULE WITH IRON.

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
John 3 : 11

[37]And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

[38] And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5 : 37-39