I know a lot of people will come out to crucify me for saying this truth but i have to say it.
The teachings and methods of the likes of pastor kumuyi have contributed to rape mentality among men in our society. Actually, the faulty mentality came from the African traditional beliefs that positioned women to be inferior before men by telling women that there must be a particular way you dress as a woman for you to avoid being raped or sexually harassed, that is the same thing kumuyi replicated as a law in his deeper life church.

Though pastor kumuyi in his mind had good intentions for his doctrines which he may thought that it was one of the measures to curtail rape in the society, he teaches that women should not dress to expose certain parts of their body like their legs by putting on skirts that should not be shorter beyond their knees, and tops that should cover their upper regions up to their necks, arms with long sleeves and baggy appearance without being fitted, that dressing this way will make the lady not to miss rapture at the end.

The question is, at the long run does these kind of dressing among women curtail rape in our society?
The answer is absolutely no!

Now, most men who raped women when you ask them why did you do it? One excuse they will give is, they did it because their victim did not cover their body as the likes of kumuyi and the African tradition teaches

But must you guys call men of God in everything ,can’t you guys just respect your elders and men of God?

So what's you point?
You just came here to show us your faulty, dirty English

Possiblegee:
But must you guys call men of God in everything ,can’t you guys just respect your elders and men of God?

I respect the man a lot, but what is wrong is wrong

Blizzy9ja:
So what's you point?

You just came here to show us your faulty, dirty English

English?

OP, your point is confusing and misleading

Proximo73:
I respect the man a lot, but what is wrong is wrong

but what’s really wrong dressing like deeper life people ?

Proximo73:
I know a lot of people will come out to crucify me for saying this truth but i have to say it.
The teachings and methods of the likes of pastor kumuyi have contributed to rape mentality among men in our society. Actually, the faulty mentality came from the African traditional beliefs that positioned women to be inferior before men by telling women that there must be a particular way you dress as a woman for you to avoid being raped or sexually harassed, that is the same thing kumuyi replicated as a law in his deeper life church.

Though pastor kumuyi in his mind had good intentions for his doctrines which he may thought that it was one of the measures to curtail rape in the society, he teaches that women should not dress to expose certain parts of their body like their legs by putting on skirts that should not be shorter beyond their knees, and tops that should cover their upper regions up to their necks, arms with long sleeves and baggy appearance without being fitted, that dressing this way will make the lady not to miss rapture at the end.

The question is, at the long run does these kind of dressing among women curtail rape in our society?
The answer is absolutely no!

Now, most men who raped women when you ask them why did you do it? One excuse they will give is, they did it because their victim did not cover their body as the likes of kumuyi and the African tradition teaches

There are things we say about people that carry Dare Repercussions! Especially People who are Called for a specific job..

Brother man, retrace your steps and guide what you say..

It's just an Advice....

Possiblegee:
but what’s really wrong dressing like deeper life people ?

nothing!

I also wish that rapists should also see that nothing is also wrong for women not to dress like deeper life and allow them to be

Wonders shall never end

Righteousness89:


There are things we say about people that carry Dare Repercussions! Especially People who are Called for a specific job..

where did you get that one from?
These guys are humans too

Brother man, retrace your steps and guide what you say..

It's just an Advice....

thanks for the advice

Possiblegee:
But must you guys call men of God in everything ,can’t you guys just respect your elders and men of God?

Why?

Kobojunkie:
Why?

why respect your elders?

Aboks:
Wonders shall never end

what is now a wonder in the Nigerian society is when people are speaking against rape abi !

This tells you how the Nigerian society is indirectly encouraging rape unknowly.

They must respect their elders by all means even when the wrong is obvious

You need specialist psychiatrists

BlowYourMind:
You need specialist psychiatrists

that's what the Pharisees told Jesus Christ, it didn't start today

Proximo73:
I respect the man a lot, but what is wrong is wrong

I agree with you

[s]

Proximo73:
I know a lot of people will come out to crucify me for saying this truth but i have to say it.
The teachings and methods of the likes of pastor kumuyi have contributed to rape mentality among men in our society. Actually, the faulty mentality came from the African traditional beliefs that positioned women to be inferior before men by telling women that there must be a particular way you dress as a woman for you to avoid being raped or sexually harassed, that is the same thing kumuyi replicated as a law in his deeper life church.

Though pastor kumuyi in his mind had good intentions for his doctrines which he may thought that it was one of the measures to curtail rape in the society, he teaches that women should not dress to expose certain parts of their body like their legs by putting on skirts that should not be shorter beyond their knees, and tops that should cover their upper regions up to their necks, arms with long sleeves and baggy appearance without being fitted, that dressing this way will make the lady not to miss rapture at the end.

The question is, at the long run does these kind of dressing among women curtail rape in our society?
The answer is absolutely no!

Now, most men who raped women when you ask them why did you do it? One excuse they will give is, they did it because their victim did not cover their body as the likes of kumuyi and the African tradition teaches

[/s] YOU ARE HUNGRY, DEPRESSED, FRUSTRATED AND MENTALLY UNSTABLE, SO HE ALSO ASK MEN NOT TO EXPOSE THEIR BODY OR DRESS CORPORATE SO THAT THEY WILL NOT BE RAPE ALSO, YOU NEED SPECIALIST PSYCHIATRISTS, IT IS OBVIOUS, YOU ARE DEVOUR BY BITTERNESS AND CONSUMED BY HATRED

Proximo73:
what is now a wonder in the Nigerian society is when people are speaking against rape abi !

This tells you how the Nigerian society is indirectly encouraging rape unknowly.

They must respect their elders by all means even when the wrong is obvious

You are right. The problem is not just starting today, the African tradition places females to either do well in protecting themselves or face rape. So if a woman dresses or walk where she shouldn't, rape is justified. You will receive lots of bashing on this thread because people like us are few in Nigeria.
But once you and I is existing, then you should know that this country has hope. Because we would build more people like us.

Proximo73:
that's what the Pharisees told Jesus Christ, it didn't start today

so obvious,

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. You are heading towards destruction.

Nope, our holier than thou attitudes contributes to it.
A society where a masturbator is seen as a greater sinner than a fornicator. We just like hiding the truth. We always preach self control but if you look around you everything from home to the Church has been sexualized it takes something extra to look away and control it when you have some hot semen wanting to escape those balls.

They even rape those wearing that Muslim mask.

The problem we have is weak institutions. Our institutions are there for somecertain people. What happens in Africa, Nigeria etc happens in places like UK, USA or south korea by the difference is that their institutions are good but not 100% perfect. When rapists are convicted and jailed, corrupt people brought to book, the society will straighten itself out on its own. As long as we don't hold defaulted accountable, it continues.
Leave kumuyi out of this.

So Kumuyi telling his members especially the female folks to dress well is for them not to be raped abi? I wonder how some people reason atimes.

This one nay rubbish post that makes no sense

Kumuyi has built a lot of dirty minds. An average Deeperlifer will see somebody who paints her mouth and fingernails as a prostitute when she is not.

BlowYourMind:
so obvious,

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. You are heading towards destruction.

look,my friend don't quote bible again, you are committing fallacies.

To whom that scripture was reffering were the Jewish leaders and all who persecuted Christians in bible days. So, bringing that scripture saying it was referring to me who wasn't there in bible days is fallacious.

Get intelligence

ModestGal:

You are right. The problem is not just starting today, the African tradition places females to either do well in protecting themselves or face rape. So if a woman dresses or walk where she shouldn't, rape is justified. You will receive lots of bashing on this thread because people like us are few in Nigeria.
But once you and I is existing, then you should know that this country has hope. Because we would build more people like us.

that is just the point!
I soon discover that most people especially religious people cannot separate religion from tradition and that is a huge problem.

See now, if a woman does not dress like deeper life, she is condemned in deeper life churches. How about the men, what should be their dressing code?
Nothing.

Proximo73:
what is now a wonder in the Nigerian society is when people are speaking against rape abi !

This tells you how the Nigerian society is indirectly encouraging rape unknowly.

They must respect their elders by all means even when the wrong is obvious

I understand He is a Man.

But if He is a True child of God and sincere in this preaching before God, and his teaching of modesty.

I'm afraid, you not only wronged Man, You've offended God.

The devil will just put sonething in your mind, instead of rejecting or trying to think if it is really true, you just make yourself the devil's tool.

Even the Bible states that Women should adorn themselves in modest apparels, which is what he Preaches.

Repent Today Friend. Else you will end up self destructing

BlowYourMind:
[s][/s] YOU ARE HUNGRY, DEPRESSED, FRUSTRATED AND MENTALLY UNSTABLE,

I guess you are a deeper lifer too, very born again.

For real, you are born again, no one can take that from you

SO HE ALSO ASK MEN NOT TO EXPOSE THEIR BODY OR DRESS CORPORATE SO THAT THEY WILL NOT BE RAPE ALSO,

that is my problem.
Men are exempted from this whole traditional bullshit

YOU NEED SPECIALIST PSYCHIATRISTS, IT IS OBVIOUS, YOU ARE DEVOUR BY BITTERNESS AND CONSUMED BY HATRED

clap for yourself, Mr born again

sassysure:
They even rape those wearing that Muslim mask.

The problem we have is weak institutions. Our institutions are there for somecertain people. What happens in Africa, Nigeria etc happens in places like UK, USA or south korea by the difference is that their institutions are good but not 100% perfect. When rapists are convicted and jailed, corrupt people brought to book, the society will straighten itself out on its own. As long as we don't hold defaulted accountable, it continues.

you made a very valid point my brother

Leave kumuyi out of this.

no, I won't!
Not just only kumuyi but virtually all the Nigerian pastors.
They have been promoting faulty African traditions in their churches in the form of doctrines

A woman will wear short skirt to church they will prevent her from entering church saying she will seduce men or cause rape.
But a man put on short knicker to church he is holy

Proximo73:
you made a very valid point my brother
no, I won't!
Not just only kumuyi but virtually all the Nigerian pastors.
They have been promoting faulty African traditions in their churches in the form of doctrines

A woman will wear short skirt to church they will prevent her from entering church saying she will seduce men or cause rape.
But a man put on short knicker to church he is holy

Ok o.

incogni2o:


I understand He is a Man.

But if He is a True child of God and sincere in this preaching before God, and his teaching of modesty.

very true, no doubt.

I'm afraid, you not only wronged Man, You've offended God.

how?

The devil will just put sonething in your mind, instead of rejecting or trying to think if it is really true, you just make yourself the devil's tool.

Even the Bible states that Women should adorn themselves in modest apparels, which is what he Preaches.

I know sometimes it will be difficult for one to understand what I'm driving at.
I'm not against him preaching modest apparels for women, infact he wasn't the one that started it. modest apparels for women has been part of the African tradition right from inception and kumuyi preaching it today is part of what has made his methods and doctrines widely accepted by most people in Africa.
But again what are the implications?
Some African fools will use that to justify their evil acts of rape towards women who do not dress modestly especially when they keep hearing things from pastors like pastor kumuyi such as, women who do not dress modestly will not make heaven, they are not of God, they are not born again, they are sinners, etc. And that becomes mentality to these people.

All I'm saying is, to solve the societal problem of rape, as much that women who dress modestly is accepted, women who do not dress modestly should also be accepted including in churches

Repent Today Friend. Else you will end up self destructing

do you realize that Africans need repentance than me?