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Yesterday, FG charged about 60 young people to court for various crimes such as rioting, stealing, treason, arson, public disturbances and other crimes against the state. These crimes were committed during the End bad governance protest that took place in August.

Since their appearance in court, the social media has been awash with various opinions as to the justification or otherwise of arresting and prosecuting the young folks. Because most of the boys are from northern part of the country, the mater has quickly taken an ethnic and political dimension with various groups issuing different threats.

Below are pictures showing some of these boys looting, stealing, destroying public properties and flying Russian flags while calling for insurrection during the protest. The pictures speaks for themselves.

So, as a democratic country with the desire to protect Nigerians and promote the rule of law, what exactly is the best way to deal with the crimes committed by these people?

During the 2021 Capitol Hill invasion and the recent protest in London in which black people were targeted and attacked, we all saw how law enforcement officers arrested and prosecuted most of the people involved in committing the crimes without anyone issuing political threats.

So, is it right for FG to prosecute these boys or just release them thereby letting them get away with the crimes they’ve committed? If they are not too young to commit the crimes we all saw them committing in broad daylight, why then should we now claim they are too young to be prosecuted? Will letting them go scot free not encourage and embolden others? Are we not tired of impunity in this country? Are they really kids?


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More pictures of these boys in action.

Why is pictures no longer uploading?

Upload many pictures. It still does not justify the wickedness of the law enforcement officers. We don't respect the law and if we continue like this, I am worried about one Nigeria.

The law states,you are not guilty until proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Upon arrest, suspect should be charged to court within 48hrs. Those guys were kept for 93days. That's wickedness.

Let's assume, they looted, they burnt and did all sorts, they are still INNOCENT until the court says otherwise. And why will you keep that large number for 93days. Kilode nah

ayenika1:
Upload many pictures. It still does not justify the wickedness of the law enforcement officers. We don't respect the law and if we continue like this, I am worried about one Nigeria.

The law states,you are not guilty until proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Upon arrest, suspect should be charged to court within 48hrs. Those guys were kept for 93days. That's wickedness.

Let's assume, they looted, they burnt and did all sorts, they are still INNOCENT until the court says otherwise. And why will you keep that large number for 93days. Kilode nah

Sometimes, investigation last for more than 48hours. Again, we all don’t know the exact date they were arrested. I don’t think they were all arrested the same day.

Again, rushing to prosecute people without a proper investigation is always counterproductive. Without a proper investigation, prosecutors can’t build a strong case that will fly in court. Police are human beings too, they are not magicians. They can’t arrest someone today and take him to court tomorrow without first getting all the evidences. If they do that and lose the case, it is still folks like you that will come and call them names.

Now that they have been charged to court, what we should all be asking for is a quick, fair and diligent prosecution. No need for all the dramas, politics and threats. Let’s allow the legal process to run its course.

Don't mind them. They are old enough to vote, rape, shout the name of God and burn people, and commit all kinds of crime. It's when they are caught that they start asking for amnesty, calling UN and FIFA. When government is sharing money or there's recruitment, people with these kinds of faces get it without much ado. Their mates are doing fulani herdsmen, boko haram, ipob and co. Make we dey play.

ayenika1:
Upload many pictures. It still does not justify the wickedness of the law enforcement officers. We don't respect the law and if we continue like this, I am worried about one Nigeria.

The law states,you are not guilty until proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Upon arrest, suspect should be charged to court within 48hrs. Those guys were kept for 93days. That's wickedness.

Let's assume, they looted, they burnt and did all sorts, they are still INNOCENT until the court says otherwise. And why will you keep that large number for 93days. Kilode nah

They have been charged to court before. It was the court that reminded them in the Prison and Juvenile homes.
That much, most of those arrested may be random kids that have been made a scape goat.

Image123:
Don't mind them. They are old enough to vote, rape, shout the name of God and burn people, and commit all kinds of crime. It's when they are caught that they start asking for amnesty, calling UN and FIFA. When government is sharing money or there's recruitment, people with these kinds of faces get it without much ado. Their mates are doing fulani herdsmen, boko haram, ipob and co. Make we dey play.

The fainting drama in court yesterday was well scripted. They simply used some tricks from the playbook of Dino Melaye and Olisa Metuh. It’s all an attempt to escape justice.

ALTERNATEID:
The fainting drama in court yesterday was well scripted. They simply used some tricks from the playbook of Dino Melaye and Olisa Metuh. It’s all an attempt to escape justice.

Even if not scripted, it's all sentiments. The law should not be sentimental.

Toh

They are not kids when they vote?
Idiotic slaves from Southern Nigeria

Lifestone:
They have been charged to court before. It was the court that reminded them in the Prison and Juvenile homes.
That much, most of those arrested may be random kids that have been made a scape goat.

The were kept at SAS and Kuje prison and not juvenile homes. If they were kept in juvenile facilities, FCT would have taken charge of their feeding and won't look malnourished

I doubt if they have been arraigned in any court of law.

Mentally, psychological and socially, those lads are down and with no proper rehabilitation, we are breeding another set of terrorists.

We politicize everything.

The political class need to liberal. They need to make life worthwhile irrespective of their age or class. The classism form of government we are practicing is not good.

Nepotism killed institutions. Now, we are moving to another level.

The NSA should check if they have voters card NIN etc

They are minor but they can make a country vanished within a second.

aribisala0:
The NSA should check if they have voters card NIN etc

They all have voters card

ALTERNATEID:
They all have voters card

I trust Nigerians
They can dig deep


Loud am abeg

Nigerians don't have principles and don't think long-term.


I'm ashamed that Igbo people are defending the kids, that won't waste time to accuse them of blasphemy and burn them, just to malign Tinubu.


Fvck the juvenile delinquents.

If secondary school students flying the Biafran flag in the South East were arrested, would there be outrage?

Nope. They'll be in detention for years without sympathy.

Modified

If they were igbo kids, they'd even be shot or massacred at sight by the Army.

ayenika1:
The were kept at SAS and Kuje prison and not juvenile homes. If they were kept in juvenile facilities, FCT would have taken charge of their feeding and won't look malnourished

I doubt if they have been arraigned in any court of law.

Mentally, psychological and socially, those lads are down and with no proper rehabilitation, we are breeding another set of terrorists.

We politicize everything.

The political class need to liberal. They need to make life worthwhile irrespective of their age or class. The classism form of government we are practicing is not good.

Nepotism killed institutions. Now, we are moving to another level.

I agree with your submissions, however no society can tolerate lawlessness. I strongly support right of citizens to protest,but I do not support inflicting pains on others ( like the looting and vandalism witnessed during the protest of endsars and endbadgovernment). People who committed crimes should be punished to serve as deterrent to others irrespective of their age.

ayenika1:
The were kept at SAS and Kuje prison and not juvenile homes. If they were kept in juvenile facilities, FCT would have taken charge of their feeding and won't look malnourished

I doubt if they have been arraigned in any court of law.

Mentally, psychological and socially, those lads are down and with no proper rehabilitation, we are breeding another set of terrorists.

We politicize everything.

The political class need to liberal. They need to make life worthwhile irrespective of their age or class. The classism form of government we are practicing is not good.

Nepotism killed institutions. Now, we are moving to another level.

They looked malnourished?
Because of their body size or what exactly?
U can say they don't look good, someone can look bad and it's not because of food, could be sleeping conditions and stuffs, what if they rejected the food given to them, we should still bIame the jailers right?
Lads who can raid shops and courts are already tèrrórîsts and it's not jaiI time that will make them tèrrórîsts.

"We politicize everything" is the reason u absorb them of the extremism they have displayed and blame the govt.


DeaIing with people who made pubIic Iife a tèrrór is now nepotism?
U have any idea how bàd this protest went in the north?

N3TRAL:
Nigerians don't have principles and don't think long-term.


I'm ashamed that Igbo people are defending the kids, that won't waste time to accuse them of blasphemy and burn them, just to malign Tinubu.


Fvck the juvenile delinquents.

I said it earlier today that the whole talk about this subject is based on politics and because their favorite candidate didn't win, some miscreants mentioned me telling me "are we still talking about candidates", they know deep inside them it's because they don't like Tinubu, another phase will soon come.

They're the famous notorious Almajiri.


The labour force from which Boko Haram, Bandits, ISWAP and other insurgents recruit willing members.

They're the front-line workers of any mob justice effected by extremists on the streets of Northern Nigeria.

Their parents gave birth to them without plans to raise them. In Islam, they're supposed to be raised by alms given to them by society.

Their collective existence has no value in the 21st Century global village as most of the teenagers cannot do basic arithmetic or communicate in the lingua franca.

This case should set a precedent against the Almajiri system.

It should be the first in more to come moves to reduce street urchins in the region.

ALTERNATEID:
Yesterday, FG charged about 60 young people to court for various crimes such as rioting, stealing, treason, arson, public disturbances and other crimes against the state. These crimes were committed during the End bad governance protest that took place in August.

Since their appearance in court, the social media has been awash with various opinions as to the justification or otherwise of arresting and prosecuting the young folks. Because most of the boys are from northern part of the country, the mater has quickly taken an ethnic and political dimension with various groups issuing different threats.

Below are pictures showing some of these boys looting, stealing, destroying public properties and flying Russian flags while calling for insurrection during the protest. The pictures speaks for themselves.

So, as a democratic country with the desire to protect Nigerians and promote the rule of law, what exactly is the best way to deal with the crimes committed by these people?

During the 2021 Capitol Hill invasion and the recent protest in London in which black people were targeted and attacked, we all saw how law enforcement officers arrested and prosecuted most of the people involved in committing the crimes without anyone issuing political threats.

So, is it right for FG to prosecute these boys or just release them thereby letting them get away with the crimes they’ve committed? If they are not too young to commit the crimes we all saw them committing in broad daylight, why then should we now claim they are too young to be prosecuted? Will letting them go scot free not encourage and embolden others? Are we not tired of impunity in this country? Are they really kids?


Cc: Mynd44 nlfpmod fergie001

Those friends of obi have suddenly become the lovers of the north.

N3TRAL:
They're the famous notorious Almajiri.


The labour force from which Boko Haram, Bandits, ISWAP and other insurgents recruit willing members.

They're the front-line workers of any mob justice effected by extremists on the streets of Northern Nigeria.

Their parents gave birth to them without plans to raise them. In Islam, they're supposed to be raised by alms given to them by society.

Their collective existence has no value in the 21st Century global village as most of the teenagers cannot do basic arithmetic or communicate in the lingua franca.

This case should set a precedent against the Almajiri system.

It should be the first in more to come moves to reduce street urchins in the region.

I find it curious that this 'Almajiri' concept does not exist in countries that are far more 'Islamic' than Nigeria. I have been to the largely islamic Middle East and I cannot recall seeing anything remotely close to an Almajiri.

Why then does the system endure in Nigeria and parts of sub-saharan Africa? Could they exist simply as a ready-made, illiterate, malnourished and brainwashed army with which Northern politicians unleash terror and secure votes as needed?

legallysly:
I find it curious that this 'Almajiri' concept does not exist in countries that are far more 'Islamic' than Nigeria. I have been to the largely islamic Middle East and I cannot recall seeing anything remotely close to an Almajiri.

Why then does the system endure in Nigeria and parts of sub-saharan Africa? Could they exist simply as a ready-made, illiterate, malnourished and brainwashed army with which Northern politicians unleash terror and secure votes as needed?

Turks are predominantly Muslim, but it's more unlikely that you'll see a Turkish man marry four wives in 2024. The average Turkish lady doesn't give a fvck about the Hijab.

Here are the answers:

1. Religion and culture are intertwined.

In Nigerian Catholic churches, it's unlikely that women will wear trousers to church, but in Rome women attend mass with baggy shorts.

2. A less-educated society interprets Religious materials more stupidly than an educated society

Compare the thoughts process of an African Christian to an American Christian and then that of an American Christian to a Christian in Western Europe. The results will improve upwards.


It therefore follows that a less-educated and less-intelligent society will interpret the Quoran and hadiths more stupidly.

ALTERNATEID:
The fainting drama in court yesterday was well scripted. They simply used some tricks from the playbook of Dino Melaye and Olisa Metuh. It’s all an attempt to escape justice.

Who then wrote the script? Which according to u was displayed buy those kids in court? In ur words" the fainting drama"

Image123:
Don't mind them. They are old enough to vote, rape, shout the name of God and burn people, and commit all kinds of crime. It's when they are caught that they start asking for amnesty, calling UN and FIFA. When government is sharing money or there's recruitment, people with these kinds of faces get it without much ado. Their mates are doing fulani herdsmen, boko haram, ipob and co. Make we dey play.

You've said it all my brother. They are old enough to pillage, cause chaos and commit all sorts of atrocious acts, but when it comes to punishment, then they're kids and are no longer old enough, says who? So because they're kids they should pillage and go scot-free so that tomorrow they'd do far worse. He who fetches ant- infested firewood invites lizards to his home, every action begets consequences. Let's all stop being all emotional and sentimental about this case, there's nothing unethical about their incarceration, juveniles are also punished under the law. It's nothing alien and even happens in advanced climes.

Those folks saying they were pushed into the act, so if someone tells you to stick your hands into the fire, you'd sheepishly oblige. This would serve as a deterrent to others. I'm not saying they shouldn't protest, if you want to protest use your head.

N3TRAL:
If secondary school students flying the Biafran flag in the South East were arrested, would there be outrage?

Nope. They'll be in detention for years without sympathy.

Arrest ke, if it were in the south east, the people flying the Bifaran flag would have been shot on sight, be you kid or adult. You don't do such and live to tell the tale here. That's why the South East frowns at anything protest. You protesting down here is akin to placing a bull's eye on your back and trust me, they'd take that shot without a second thought.

ayenika1:
Upload many pictures. It still does not justify the wickedness of the law enforcement officers. We don't respect the law and if we continue like this, I am worried about one Nigeria.

The law states,you are not guilty until proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Upon arrest, suspect should be charged to court within 48hrs. Those guys were kept for 93days. That's wickedness.

Let's assume, they looted, they burnt and did all sorts, they are still INNOCENT until the court says otherwise. And why will you keep that large number for 93days. Kilode nah

but u will b happy if they kill d president or governor right?

aribisala0:
They are not kids when they vote?
Idiotic slaves from Southern Nigeria

we know the motives of d southerners supporting them

They are d same people who call Nigeria a zoo, they were happy when these boys were burning everything cos they believe it will lead to chaos but when those boys were caught they want to make it political

majesticguy:
Arrest ke, if it were in the south east, they would have been shot on sight. You don't do such and live to tell the tale here. That's why the South East frowns at anything protest. You protesting down here is akin to placing a bull's eye on your back and trust me, they'd take that shot without a second thought.

Oh, you're so right.

The army would shoot and kill most teenagers in the South East if they waved the Biafran flag which is their identity.

Numerouno94:
Who then wrote the script? Which according to u was displayed buy those kids in court? In ur words" the fainting drama"

Attention seeking irritants like Deji Adeyanju appeared in court yesterday as their lawyers. You shouldn’t look too far to know who coached them for the fainting drama.