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Which kind foolish MUMU question be this.

Shey na church or soo called religion pay for their bride price..!!!

Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

The LORD God made them a male(one husband) and female(one wife) since the beginning of time.

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Genesis 2 : 24

First if someone is a minister of God, he does not have any other option than to let go three of them and keep one though it may seem difficult at first. Jesus word still stands.

Regarding a new convert you can't just let them go like that: you may make their lives "miserable"_the shock of your restitution would have a lasting negative effect on their lives. I don't know if they have children for you plus IF THEY ALL LOVE YOU. You know, you and your wives are just new babies in Christ. To do such a restitution, your pastor will have to do a lot with your wives' decisions and judgment to leave except the first one. What of if they say they are not leaving? Or the marriage was legally bond? You have married them anyway! And I see that you have made a decision not to let them go. The decision is yours.

Do know that keeping them MIGHT NOT BE AN HINDRANCE FOR YOU TO MAKE HEAVEN. I say it again in another tone, YOU MIGHT GET TO HEAVEN. To make home with four wives WOULD TASK YOU ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Christianity is not a joke!

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

So he should send them away for who to marry them?

An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the HUSBAND of ONE WIFE, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, skillful in teaching,1tom3:2.

the verse says to be an overseer one must have one wife, meaning there are those with more than one wife in the early church

1. From Genesis 2:21-24 and Mathew 19:3-9, we know that the original design by God is one man one wife. Adam had many ribs, but God took only one to make Eve. God would have taken more than one if He wanted men to have many wives.

2. Since he married them as an unbeliever and the women themselves were unbelievers, there is no need to divorce or send any of them away if he legally married them. He shouldn't cause the other 3 wives to sin in the name of restitution. Malachi 2:16 and Mathew 19:3-9 is clear on divorce and it is applicable even for marriage done before conversion.

3. He can keep the other three wives if they are willing to stay. The wives can decide to stay or leave the marriage on their own. In this case the man is free of any burden as far as he doesn't marry another woman and remains with his first wife. Also, the other three wives will be committing adultery if they remarry. 1 Corinthians 7:10-15.

4. He cannot hold any leadership position in Church and in the body of Christ as a polygamist. 1Timothy 3:2, 3:12

Thank you for this comment

flyingdutchman:
JESUS! False doctrine! The WORD of God never said that. Marrying more than one wife is distracting as a Christian but is NOT a sin

You are not required return your wives back. You married them properly.

Why would you push your three wives into temptation of Adultery? Beware of false teachings!

Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

No scripture backing this up. You don't have to send any home. You married all same time and have produced children with them. You don't exposed them to sin, by asking them to leave. But the issue would be your loving them equally and been able to provide for them. Because in Christendom we provide for our wives and children. He who doesn't provide for his family is worst than an infidel.
Also know that you can't elect to be a bishop, elder or pastor. For he who desires an office of the bishop, pastor or elder must be a husband of one wife.

Well, A new convert does not need to send his wives away.

It is only accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and being born again that makes you acceptable to God. Nothing more, nothing less.

Old things, old mistakes, old ways of life, old errors have passed away. Things have become new thenceforth.

Sending your wives away is not restitution. To do so is to commit sin sef.

Send them away to where? Pls stop acting too biblical know-how there is no where in the bible where polygamous was declared a sin.

Abraham have how many wives?

Jacob father of isreal have how many wives?

David have how many wives?

Solomon have how many wives?

Isaac have how many wives?

Yet God called Abraham his friend.

Yet Jacob is the father of isreal and from one of his wives descedants Jesus was born......

Pls stop allowing the West induced supremacy who tailored bible into their personal believe and transfered it as a mandate around the world to be confusing you folks.

The West kicked against polygamy despite never a sin in the bible but accepted the fu-cking homosexuality that bible condemn and called a sin so guys open your eyes pls the West are natural evil doing devil work to pressed their satanic wish on humanity throats.

Pls let's start seen beyond our nose and stop trying to dictating for God.

AntiChristian:


What did David do with all his wives?

What about Solomon?

Abeg o! Send the number of those your ex wives maybe I fit take them out of Christianity!

Cain's son Lamech and Moses had 2 wives. David had 8 wives! Solomon 300 wives and 700 concubines! Gideon had many wives!
Deuteronomy 21:1-17 suggest marriage of multiple wives including captured prisoners gotten from conquests.

Elkanah a godly man and father of Samuel had 2 wives. Abraham, the father of faith had two wives!

In 2 Samuel 12 when the prophet Nathan confronts David over his sin with Bathsheba, we read: "This is what the Lord God of Israel says: 'I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. I have given you your master's house and your master's wives into your bosom … and I gave you the house of Israel and Judah, and as if this wasn't enough, I would have given you even more."

Is it that all of these men of God were not guided (by the Holy spirit) in their marriages?

And lastly Yahweh prescribed law to protect first wife in Polygamy- Exo 21:10 "If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights."

All these is before the coming of JESUS CHRIST after the coming of JESUS is one man one wife
Read your bible from Matt to revelation

flyingdutchman:
JESUS! False doctrine! The WORD of God never said that. Marrying more than one wife is distracting as a Christian but is NOT a sin

You are not required return your wives back. You married them properly.

Why would you push your three wives into temptation of Adultery? Beware of false teachings!

God bless you a million fold for this truth!

You past is forgiven. All three wives are your wives and must be loved.

kissdabride:
All these is before the coming of JESUS CHRIST after the coming of JESUS is one man one wife
Read your bible from Matt to revelation

I don't have a Bible! Quickly tell me where Jesus talked about marriage in the Bible (not divorce).

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

I agreed with you on "turning away from your evil deeds" but on restitution Jesus did not specifically tell anyone to do restitution rather the holy spirit/word of God convince them to do so. It was not a law/nor mandate rather the work of the Holy Spirit

justt:
Hmm.
This is not correct.

In as much as I believe in restitution and correcting one's errors as much as possible, the Bible doesn't say anywhere that those who married more than one wive should divorce them.

Yes, in the new testament, the Bible doesn't encourage polygamy, but it also never says that polygamy is a sin. It's better to stay within the limit of the word of God.

The limit the Bible places on those who engage in polygamy is that they cannot occupy leadership positions (1 Tim 3:1-5, Tit 1:6). The reason for this should be obvious. A leader should be a good example - a role model, particular in properly ruling his home. Unfortunately, it is difficult, if not impossible to have a well-managed polygamous family.

If it is sinful to have more than one wife, apparently, Paul wouldn't have listed having one one wife at part of the criteria for selecting a leader. So, by saying a leader should be someone with one wife already indicated that there were people in the church with more than one wife.

While polygamy in itself, just like alcohol, is not a sin, the possibility that it will lead to sin is quite high.
I guess in an attempt to prevent believers from falling into sin, which the polygamy and alcohol provides more avenue for, church leaders just concluded that these habits are sinful. While the intention is noble and well-intended, it's still not biblical.

No responsible and serious Christian would go into polygamy, but for those, for whatever reasons, who found themselves in the state, especially before meeting Christ, they should not be made to commit further errors by sending their wives away.

If they send those women away, who will marry them? What about the children? How would they feel about a God who claims to be love, yet couldn't accept their mum?

I believe the words of Paul in 1 Cor 7:20 that everyone should remain in the same calling in which he was called is also very relevant here. The question that should be asked is that is this man already saved even with his wives or is sending his wives away that grants him salvation?

That's correct. If you put the women away what about their children? The man should continue with his wives but should not be allowed to hold any leadership position 1Timothy 3:2-5

Almunjid:
Christianity and confusion are almost synonymous. Like Jesus himself said, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17). This verse has so many interpretations, just because Christians want to reject old laws and follow their own man-made doctrines. Some say the above Verse means that Jesus came to complete the purpose of the law, some say he was showing the reason for the law, and others believe he fulfilled the law and that believers in Christ are no longer under it. It's all quite confusing!

And you know what's wild? If a new convert follows a pastor's teaching and divorces his other wives, he's doing those wives a huge injustice. Furthermore, if you mention some old laws, pastors would say, "Oh, that's just the Old Testament." But, they conveniently keep the tithing law from the Old Testament while condemning others.

Honestly, if someone divorces their wives because they converted to Christianity, they're causing great harm. Polygamy was part of the Old Testament, which Jesus didn't come to change. Adding more wives might not be encouraged, but keeping the existing ones should be okay. It's like when someone's been wounded – even after the wound heals, the scars remain. It's not right to condemn or reject someone because of their scars. Personally, I believe the remaining wives of a Christian convert are as legal as the first wives, not just scars from the past.


Shalom!

The word of God needs wisdom and understanding,for the fact that Jesus said he has come to fulfill the prophet law does not interpret to what is obtainable in the old testament and again Jesus Christ Himself commend the woman who used her last penny to pay tithes in the new testament
Pray for better understanding of the word of God Bible is not just any book you can just read else you will be more confused just as You are a confused now

Baldwretch:
I hope you are joking even tough your username says you don't joke.



No, actually, your username say you joke so I hope this is not a joke.



Putting away your three wives is the height of impiety masked under religious piety.

What you just said is not a divine command.

Polygamy itself is not a divine prohibition and how much more a man who did in fact married women when he is not a Christian.

If you truly understand the nature of GOD and the nature of women, you'd very easily understand why God did not forbid polygamy in ancient times.

Read the law of God. This time carefully and repeatedly, from Genesis to Deuteronomy. If possible, like four or five times.

This is why Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and Saducees. They heap rules on men that they themselves cannot lift with a finger. From such, we are expected to turn away.

Honestey:
What God has joined together, let no man put asunder. Now Alfa Sadiku has converted and kneeling before Pastor Jakobu and asking about what the Lord Jesus Christ wants with his beloved family.
I dey listing oooo

Wait! Hear the pastor ooo

"My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!"

To avoid confusion in religion, be a Muslim.

Muslim no direction only terrorist and believe of 72 virgin after rhey are dog always wanting to meet

Madas1986:
tell me where it's written in your bible not to marry more than one wife

He who created them from the beginning created them a male and female_ one husband and one wife. If a Christian of these days does want trouble both physical and spiritual for his life, he must do what Jesus himself said:


[6] But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

[7] For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

[8] And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

[9] What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Mark 10 : 6-9

Covetousness and the norms of this present time are driving a lot of people crazy!

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

if dem check ur background, ur grandfather get like 10 wives.

MiddleDimension:
My dear, I will take it you don't know enough about the tooic at hand so, I will begin ny showing you verses from the bible to make you realize your mistake!

2Sam 12 vs 8
The God of Israel says: 'I made you king of Israel and rescued you from Saul. 8 I gave you his kingdom and his wives; I made you king over Israel and Judah. If this had not been enough, I would have given you twice as much.
By this, your God is saying he approves of Polygamy. Do you understand it now?

That is before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ old testament so you are the one making big mistake

LordIsaac:
This is why Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and Saducees. They heap rules on men that they themselves cannot lift with a finger. From such, we are expected to tirn away.

It's quite unsettling I must say.

kissdabride:
Christian one man one wife and who told You paying Tithe is a sin read the bible Malachi 3 v 8 and again nobody ever force you to pay tithe
Bible is the blue print to life

You can't even sound coherent. You're directing me to Malachi about tithe (an old testament doctrine) to back up your claims but against polygamy (an old testament practice)
You're clearly not scripturally and intellectually sound to do this.

Christianity came with the coming of Christ, if polygamy the old testament practice of judaism passed away and became a sin (according to you) with the coming of Christ, why then didn't the issue of tithe an old testament doctrine pass away too? 😂

Abraham and the great men of old were proud judaists, who walked with the LORD and visited the temple from time to time. Christ himself was a proud judaist who visited the temple from time to time, so where his apostle s.

Meanwhile, who gave your pastor the right to collect tithes, is he a levite?
Who gave you the right to pay tithe, are you a judaist? 😂

kissdabride:
All these is before the coming of JESUS CHRIST after the coming of JESUS is one man one wife
Read your bible from Matt to revelation

Pls show me where Jesus himself mentioned "one wife"? Pls help me I want to know the chapter where Jeus himself said it.

AntiChristian:
I don't have a Bible! Quickly tell me where Jesus talked about marriage in the Bible (not divorce).

Then go and get one and pray for better understanding of the world of God
Bible the blue point to life

You met a church with the wrong doctrine on marriage. It’s the choice of any woman to stay or go but don’t ever deny marrying them or keeping them. Our parents didn’t and the missionaries that came preach to them did not ask them to divorce their wives.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.





Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Didinrin.

Not surprised though, you are chosen 😂

lonikit:
But why did God approve multiple wives. All these toddlers in gospel will be talking trash. Don't quote else u go collect biblically

So there is biblical collection? 😀

Daejumong:
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

First of all Israel which is the most favored nation of God is founded from the 12 children from 4 wives of one man. God of the bible does not see marrying 4 wives as a sin.
Second: Read Deuteronomy 21:15-23. This is God's Law. Not a law from a man of God

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:[i][/i]

God himself is speaking here

You can only keep your first wife

flyingdutchman:
JESUS! False doctrine! The WORD of God never said that. Marrying more than one wife is distracting as a Christian but is NOT a sin

You are not required return your wives back. You married them properly.

Why would you push your three wives into temptation of Adultery? Beware of false teachings!

I'm sure you are not a Christian, maybe a "chrislam"

Unfortunately if you are,

What does the Bible say about adultery?

Definitely you're not a Christian

suratwo62:
First of all Israel which is the most favored nation of God is founded from the 12 children from 4 wives of one man. God of the bible does not see marrying 4 wives as a sin.
Second: Read Deuteronomy 21:15-23. This is God's Law. Not a law from a man of God

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:[i][/i]

God himself is speaking here

Not in the New Testament

It is 2 that Jesus said would become 1 not 3