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Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by PHIPEX(m): 11:10am On Nov 03, 2024
Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Am sure you know what you said is your personal interpretation of the scripture. New Testament was silent on this and the old testament saints have multiple wives. Let's be careful how we 'put a burden on the gentile" as Paul put it
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:11am On Nov 03, 2024
MiddleDimension:
@MaxInDHouse @SIRTee15 @DTruthSpeaker @StillDTruth

Can you all see what bile your false teachings are causing in the society?

Just look through the thread and see what nonsense some people are saying here especially the lunatic called @Righteousness
Told you before that you are way tooo stupid and notcurably mad, if not you would have known that many are as stupid and mad like you are in the society.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:13am On Nov 03, 2024
Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife!

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?
Read Matthew 15:9. The bible says - in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’"

The pastor asking you to send away your 3 wives is teaching you his own commandment not that of God.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by AntiChristian: 11:13am On Nov 03, 2024
kissdabride:
Then go and get one and pray for better understanding of the world of God
Bible the blue point to life
In Matthew 19:3-9, Jesus was not speaking about polygamy. Rather, He is only answering a question about divorce. Indeed, the entire passage is about divorce, not polygamy.

"Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Matthew 19:3-9.

Indeed, in Matthew 19:8-9, Jesus simply repeats the Deuteronomy 24:1 "as it had been in the beginning", that God has always been against divorce of what He joined together. In Matthew 19:3, the Pharisees were asking about "every" reason for divorcing, but Jesus returned back with the only one allowed reason (the woman's "fornication / uncleanness"wink, as per Deuteronomy 24:1.

Polygamy is about marriage, whereas divorce is about breaking up marriage. Accordingly, Jesus was not speaking against pro-marriage polygamy in Matthew 19. He was instead addressing marriage-destruction of divorce. It was about divorce, not polygamy.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by lereinter(m): 11:15am On Nov 03, 2024
suratwo62:
First of all Israel which is the most favored nation of God is founded from the 12 children from 4 wives of one man. God of the bible does not see marrying 4 wives as a sin.
Second: Read Deuteronomy 21:15-23. This is God's Law. Not a law from a man of God

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:[i][/i]

God himself is speaking here
Funny

Are you an Israelite

All what God instructed the Israelites, are you also doing so

You just pick marrying more women and drop the rest Abi so that you can fulfil your sexual perversion

And you call yourself a Christian

What did Jesus Christ tell the Pharisees when they approach him about a woman who has gotten seven dead husband
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by freezyprinzy(m): 11:15am On Nov 03, 2024
Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

You claim to be righteous but you lie to people everyday in this platform. If you don’t have answers to a particular topic shut up!! It’s not a must to answer.

Where in the Bible does it specifically say polygamy is a sin? It only says a man with many wives cannot be a leader in church.

The Bible nowhere explicitly gives a “thou shalt not marry multiple wives” command. In the New Testament, a polygamist is ineligible for church leadership (1 Timothy 3:2, 12; Titus 1:6), but polygamy itself is not forbidden. Polygamy was not God’s original intent (Genesis 2:24; Ephesians 5:22-33), but it was also something He allowed (see the examples of Jacob, David, and Solomon). The closest the Bible comes to forbidding polygamy is Deuteronomy 17:17, which is properly understood as God’s command against a king of Israel taking many wives. It cannot be understood as a command that no man can ever take more than one wife.

So, if a man has multiple wives and becomes a Christian, what is he supposed to do? If polygamy is illegal where he lives, he should do whatever is necessary to submit to the law (Romans 13:1-7), while still providing for his wives and children. If polygamy is legal, but he is convicted that it is wrong, he should divorce all but one wife, but, again, he must not neglect providing for all of them and their children. They are his responsibility. If polygamy is legal and he has no conviction against it, he can remain married to each of his wives, treating each one with love, dignity, and respect. A man who makes this decision would be barred from church leadership, but it cannot be said that he is in explicit violation of any command in Scripture.

Reference: https://www.gotquestions.org/multiple-wives.html
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Bar1941(m): 11:16am On Nov 03, 2024
Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Na Akamu full that your head I swear!

What about the children they had for him? He should kill them I guess!

You can see how incompetent and confusing your belief is.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by gaddafe(m): 11:16am On Nov 03, 2024
David was a man after God's heart. He had many wives and many concubines. He committed both fornication and adultery. Yet God still loved him. Religion is our problem. Enjoy your wives Oga.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by shegun1406(m): 11:17am On Nov 03, 2024
Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Go and read Romans 10:3 to end and stop this your Righteousness by Law.
How many wife has David "The Apple of God's eyes " ?
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:18am On Nov 03, 2024
Captain4Jehovah:
He who created them from the beginning created them a male and female_ one husband and one wife.
No. He did not create them A male and A female. He created them male and female. Two very different things
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Nistevea(m): 11:18am On Nov 03, 2024
This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant... 1 tim3 : 1-2


Judging From this verses, There are polygamous families in this new testament church. But among the church members, whosoever want to be a leader must be of single wife. So, polygamous as a convert in the church is not a sin and sending other wives away could be a sin. Read your bible and pray to God for guidance before you take any decision. As many that are lead by the spirit are the son's of God.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Kokaine(m): 11:21am On Nov 03, 2024
almarthins:
So in your heart you have intention to marry more that one.
why? I don't. Its a choice.
I just don't agree with his opinion on polygamy as a sin. Same with the idea that priests or fathers or reverend not getting married. These are all inventions
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:22am On Nov 03, 2024
freezyprinzy:
Where in the Bible does it specifically say polygamy is a sin? It only says a man with many wives cannot be a leader in church.

The Bible nowhere explicitly gives a “thou shalt not marry multiple wives” command.

But the bible clearly and STRONGLY APPROVES of a man marrying MORE than one wife
Deuteronomy 21:15-23
King James Version

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:[b][/b][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]
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Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Almunjid: 11:23am On Nov 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
You don't have the holy spirit they have to twist scriptures! shocked
I have the Holy Spirit - 'Rasulullah', the Spirit of Truth who guides my understanding of the Bible, as prophesied in John 16:13: "However, when He, the Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all truth."

Salaam!
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by AntiChristian: 11:25am On Nov 03, 2024
Almunjid:
I have the Holy Spirit - 'Rasulullah', the Spirit of Truth who guides my understanding of the Bible, as prophesied in John 16:13: "However, when He, the Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all truth."

Salaam!
That one is not holy spirit!
Rasulullah is human that got revelation! Holy spirit is not human!
grin
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:27am On Nov 03, 2024
Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?
Your pastor is right about sending the three other women away because as a Christian only the first wife is recognised in the union of marriage.

2. This is not restitution. Restitution is returning what you got by stealing, cheating etc to the right full owner. Since you didn't snatch the women from any man, it's not restitution.


3. If you continue to sleep with the other 3 women after your found new faith, it is called ADULTERY

God made His ideal for marriage clear throughout Scripture: one man with one woman. The first instance of polygamy/bigamy in the Bible is that of Lamech in Genesis 4:19. Don't model yourself or use them as an excuse to keep those women. Your father's failure shouldn't justify the reason you should also fail
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by teepain: 11:32am On Nov 03, 2024
Houseontherock1:
I get that this writer was a Muslim, but what was the need to marry 4 wives at 38 years? It's basically covetousness, inability to look away from other women and be satisfied with one! Just send 3 away, they are still young and can remarry...they are a whole lot of distraction
Isn't sending them away tantamount to divorcing them. However, reducing the number of wives isn't stated in the bible as one of the permitted reasons for divorce.

Whilst I agree that polygamy may be challenging, however, I do not see how sending the other wives away would not breach the over-riding law of loving thy neighbour as yourself
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:32am On Nov 03, 2024
femi4:
Your pastor is right about sending the three other women away because as a Christian only the first wife is recognised in the union of marriage.

3. If you continue to sleep with the other 3 women after your found new faith, it is called ADULTERY
Did you and the pastor tell him about Deuteronomy 21:15-23

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

Tell him. NO. READ TO HIM Deuteronomy 21:15-23

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by TeeSure: 11:33am On Nov 03, 2024
Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?
You should not send the wives away... But you can't serve as a Bishop/Pastor in church. That's all
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Captain4Jehovah(m): 11:33am On Nov 03, 2024
suratwo62:
No. He did not create them A male and A female. He created them male and female. Two very different things
Ok, for the sake of grammar God created male(singular) and female(singular). And you know the first two human beings on earth according to the account of the Bible and Quran:Adam(singular) and Eve(singular)? These answered the problem of grammar?

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1 : 27

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mark 10 : 6
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by doffman: 11:34am On Nov 03, 2024
Almunjid:
Christianity and confusion are almost synonymous. Like Jesus himself said, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17). This verse has so many interpretations, just because Christians want to reject old laws and follow their own man-made doctrines. Some say the above Verse means that Jesus came to complete the purpose of the law, some say he was showing the reason for the law, and others believe he fulfilled the law and that believers in Christ are no longer under it. It's all quite confusing!

And you know what's wild? If a new convert follows a pastor's teaching and divorces his other wives, he's doing those wives a huge injustice. Furthermore, if you mention some old laws, pastors would say, "Oh, that's just the Old Testament." But, they conveniently keep the tithing law from the Old Testament while condemning others. grin

Honestly, if someone divorces their wives because they converted to Christianity, they're causing great harm. Polygamy was part of the Old Testament, which Jesus didn't come to change. Adding more wives might not be encouraged, but keeping the existing ones should be okay. It's like when someone's been wounded – even after the wound heals, the scars remain. It's not right to condemn or reject someone because of their scars. Personally, I believe the remaining wives of a Christian convert are as legal as the first wives, not just scars from the past.


Shalom!
😀😀 confuse set of people listen to their pastors lie
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:37am On Nov 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
grin

What did David do with all his wives?

What about Solomon?

Abeg o! Send the number of those your ex wives maybe I fit take them out of Christianity!

Cain's son Lamech and Moses had 2 wives. David had 8 wives! Solomon 300 wives and 700 concubines! Gideon had many wives!
Deuteronomy 21:1-17 suggest marriage of multiple wives including captured prisoners gotten from conquests.

Elkanah a godly man and father of Samuel had 2 wives. Abraham, the father of faith had two wives!

In 2 Samuel 12 when the prophet Nathan confronts David over his sin with Bathsheba, we read: "This is what the Lord God of Israel says: 'I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. I have given you your master's house and your master's wives into your bosom … and I gave you the house of Israel and Judah, and as if this wasn't enough, I would have given you even more."

Is it that all of these men of God were not guided (by the Holy spirit) in their marriages?

And lastly Yahweh prescribed law to protect first wife in Polygamy- Exo 21:10 "If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights."


Read more on threads about how polygamy is permitted in the Bible on nairaland!

https://www.nairaland.com/7103624/threads-how-polygamy-permitted-bible
All those you listed are not the standard. They were humans and made mistakes. We Christians don't model our lives to live like they did. We followed the laid down rules in the better covenant. I understand your problem as inferior Muslim, all your lives activities are model after MM...a mere human that's not absolve of mistakes
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:38am On Nov 03, 2024
suratwo62:
Did you and the pastor tell him about Deuteronomy 21:15-23

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

Tell him. NO. READ TO HIM Deuteronomy 21:15-23

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
We are Christians, the law doesn't hold us down anymore.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by ogascomax: 11:39am On Nov 03, 2024
In my own opinion as a Christian you should keep them since the marriage had taken place before you were born again.
The law was not made for the righteous man. Moreso that would not be had against you since it happened as an unbeliever so sending them out could make them become a lost souls.
So keep them and care for them as you have always done.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by AntiChristian: 11:43am On Nov 03, 2024
femi4:
All those you listed are not the standard. They were humans and made mistakes. We Christians don't model our lives to live like they did. We followed the laid down rules in the better covenant. I understand your problem as inferior Muslim, all your lives activities are model after MM...a mere human that's not absolve of mistakes
Jesus didn't marry!
So also Paul and many disciples!

Model your life and don't marry!
Leave the babes for us!

Our life is modelled after him as we believe he ran the last lap of Prophethood after Jesus!

Follow Jesus and don't get married!
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by alizma: 11:44am On Nov 03, 2024
Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
Bunch of sinners preaching true repentance.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by HitSong: 11:45am On Nov 03, 2024
Righteousness2:
[i]True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

[/i
Ho loriburuku heyWU

WHAT IF YOU MAMA NA THE SECOND OR LAST WIFE?
You just type NONSENSE without using your brain.

How many people in the Bible married just one wife ?
And if you even claim to be a Christian, then you're not supposed to get married because Jesus didn't marry.
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by seyi072000(m): 11:45am On Nov 03, 2024
Please show me where it is clearly written and stated in the Bible, that a man must marry one wife. I don't want a interpretation, well written "Man must marry one wife"

Prophet Abraham (AS) had 3 wives and till today we do song Abraham blessings are mine.

What's the fate of the other women. Provided he laid there bride prices and do all the necessary right, I see no issue.

What will happen to other women out there, if all men choose to marry one wife?

I believe, one can marry 2, 3, 4 provided he can be just and able to take care of them.


Please don't mislead people,.so there sin won't be on your head.

Marrying one wife is a western idea borrowed into religion not God's will.

Salaam!
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by HitSong: 11:46am On Nov 03, 2024
flyingdutchman:
JESUS! False doctrine! The WORD of God never said that. Marrying more than one wife is distracting as a Christian but is NOT a sin

You are not required return your wives back. You married them properly.

Why would you push your three wives into temptation of Adultery? Beware of false teachings!
Exactly
Beware of evil so-called Righteousness2
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:47am On Nov 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
Jesus didn't marry!
So also Paul and many disciples!

Model your life and don't marry!
Leave the babes for us!

Our life is modelled after him as we believe he ran the last lap of Prophethood after Jesus!

Follow Jesus and don't get married!
Yoruba Muslim doesn't know we honor laid down principles not lifestyle
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Problemssolver: 11:47am On Nov 03, 2024
Marrying one wife is a prerequisite for Christians see Titus 1 v 6
If any be blameless, THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. Titus 1:6
Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Template43(m): 11:48am On Nov 03, 2024
Why sending them away
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