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| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by PHIPEX(m): 11:10am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Righteousness2:Am sure you know what you said is your personal interpretation of the scripture. New Testament was silent on this and the old testament saints have multiple wives. Let's be careful how we 'put a burden on the gentile" as Paul put it |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:11am On Nov 03, 2024 |
MiddleDimension:Told you before that you are way tooo stupid and notcurably mad, if not you would have known that many are as stupid and mad like you are in the society. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:13am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Daejumong:Read Matthew 15:9. The bible says - in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’" The pastor asking you to send away your 3 wives is teaching you his own commandment not that of God. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by AntiChristian: 11:13am On Nov 03, 2024 |
kissdabride:In Matthew 19:3-9, Jesus was not speaking about polygamy. Rather, He is only answering a question about divorce. Indeed, the entire passage is about divorce, not polygamy. "Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?” “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?” Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” Matthew 19:3-9. Indeed, in Matthew 19:8-9, Jesus simply repeats the Deuteronomy 24:1 "as it had been in the beginning", that God has always been against divorce of what He joined together. In Matthew 19:3, the Pharisees were asking about "every" reason for divorcing, but Jesus returned back with the only one allowed reason (the woman's "fornication / uncleanness" , as per Deuteronomy 24:1.Polygamy is about marriage, whereas divorce is about breaking up marriage. Accordingly, Jesus was not speaking against pro-marriage polygamy in Matthew 19. He was instead addressing marriage-destruction of divorce. It was about divorce, not polygamy. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by lereinter(m): 11:15am On Nov 03, 2024 |
suratwo62:Funny Are you an Israelite All what God instructed the Israelites, are you also doing so You just pick marrying more women and drop the rest Abi so that you can fulfil your sexual perversion And you call yourself a Christian What did Jesus Christ tell the Pharisees when they approach him about a woman who has gotten seven dead husband |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by freezyprinzy(m): 11:15am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Righteousness2:You claim to be righteous but you lie to people everyday in this platform. If you don’t have answers to a particular topic shut up!! It’s not a must to answer. Where in the Bible does it specifically say polygamy is a sin? It only says a man with many wives cannot be a leader in church. The Bible nowhere explicitly gives a “thou shalt not marry multiple wives” command. In the New Testament, a polygamist is ineligible for church leadership (1 Timothy 3:2, 12; Titus 1:6), but polygamy itself is not forbidden. Polygamy was not God’s original intent (Genesis 2:24; Ephesians 5:22-33), but it was also something He allowed (see the examples of Jacob, David, and Solomon). The closest the Bible comes to forbidding polygamy is Deuteronomy 17:17, which is properly understood as God’s command against a king of Israel taking many wives. It cannot be understood as a command that no man can ever take more than one wife. So, if a man has multiple wives and becomes a Christian, what is he supposed to do? If polygamy is illegal where he lives, he should do whatever is necessary to submit to the law (Romans 13:1-7), while still providing for his wives and children. If polygamy is legal, but he is convicted that it is wrong, he should divorce all but one wife, but, again, he must not neglect providing for all of them and their children. They are his responsibility. If polygamy is legal and he has no conviction against it, he can remain married to each of his wives, treating each one with love, dignity, and respect. A man who makes this decision would be barred from church leadership, but it cannot be said that he is in explicit violation of any command in Scripture. Reference: https://www.gotquestions.org/multiple-wives.html |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Bar1941(m): 11:16am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Righteousness2:Na Akamu full that your head I swear! What about the children they had for him? He should kill them I guess! You can see how incompetent and confusing your belief is. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by gaddafe(m): 11:16am On Nov 03, 2024 |
David was a man after God's heart. He had many wives and many concubines. He committed both fornication and adultery. Yet God still loved him. Religion is our problem. Enjoy your wives Oga. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by shegun1406(m): 11:17am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Righteousness2:Go and read Romans 10:3 to end and stop this your Righteousness by Law. How many wife has David "The Apple of God's eyes " ? |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:18am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Captain4Jehovah:No. He did not create them A male and A female. He created them male and female. Two very different things |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Nistevea(m): 11:18am On Nov 03, 2024 |
This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant... 1 tim3 : 1-2 Judging From this verses, There are polygamous families in this new testament church. But among the church members, whosoever want to be a leader must be of single wife. So, polygamous as a convert in the church is not a sin and sending other wives away could be a sin. Read your bible and pray to God for guidance before you take any decision. As many that are lead by the spirit are the son's of God. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Kokaine(m): 11:21am On Nov 03, 2024 |
almarthins:why? I don't. Its a choice. I just don't agree with his opinion on polygamy as a sin. Same with the idea that priests or fathers or reverend not getting married. These are all inventions |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:22am On Nov 03, 2024 |
freezyprinzy:Deuteronomy 21:15-23 King James Version 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:[b][/b][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font][/quote] |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Almunjid: 11:23am On Nov 03, 2024 |
AntiChristian:I have the Holy Spirit - 'Rasulullah', the Spirit of Truth who guides my understanding of the Bible, as prophesied in John 16:13: "However, when He, the Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all truth." Salaam! |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by AntiChristian: 11:25am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Almunjid:That one is not holy spirit! Rasulullah is human that got revelation! Holy spirit is not human! ![]() |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:27am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Daejumong:Your pastor is right about sending the three other women away because as a Christian only the first wife is recognised in the union of marriage. 2. This is not restitution. Restitution is returning what you got by stealing, cheating etc to the right full owner. Since you didn't snatch the women from any man, it's not restitution. 3. If you continue to sleep with the other 3 women after your found new faith, it is called ADULTERY God made His ideal for marriage clear throughout Scripture: one man with one woman. The first instance of polygamy/bigamy in the Bible is that of Lamech in Genesis 4:19. Don't model yourself or use them as an excuse to keep those women. Your father's failure shouldn't justify the reason you should also fail |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by teepain: 11:32am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Houseontherock1:Isn't sending them away tantamount to divorcing them. However, reducing the number of wives isn't stated in the bible as one of the permitted reasons for divorce. Whilst I agree that polygamy may be challenging, however, I do not see how sending the other wives away would not breach the over-riding law of loving thy neighbour as yourself |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by suratwo62: 11:32am On Nov 03, 2024 |
femi4:Did you and the pastor tell him about Deuteronomy 21:15-23 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: Tell him. NO. READ TO HIM Deuteronomy 21:15-23 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by TeeSure: 11:33am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Daejumong:You should not send the wives away... But you can't serve as a Bishop/Pastor in church. That's all |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Captain4Jehovah(m): 11:33am On Nov 03, 2024 |
suratwo62:Ok, for the sake of grammar God created male(singular) and female(singular). And you know the first two human beings on earth according to the account of the Bible and Quran:Adam(singular) and Eve(singular)? These answered the problem of grammar? So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1 : 27 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. Mark 10 : 6 |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by doffman: 11:34am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Almunjid:😀😀 confuse set of people listen to their pastors lie |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:37am On Nov 03, 2024 |
AntiChristian:All those you listed are not the standard. They were humans and made mistakes. We Christians don't model our lives to live like they did. We followed the laid down rules in the better covenant. I understand your problem as inferior Muslim, all your lives activities are model after MM...a mere human that's not absolve of mistakes |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:38am On Nov 03, 2024 |
suratwo62:We are Christians, the law doesn't hold us down anymore. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by ogascomax: 11:39am On Nov 03, 2024 |
In my own opinion as a Christian you should keep them since the marriage had taken place before you were born again. The law was not made for the righteous man. Moreso that would not be had against you since it happened as an unbeliever so sending them out could make them become a lost souls. So keep them and care for them as you have always done. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by AntiChristian: 11:43am On Nov 03, 2024 |
femi4:Jesus didn't marry! So also Paul and many disciples! Model your life and don't marry! Leave the babes for us! Our life is modelled after him as we believe he ran the last lap of Prophethood after Jesus! Follow Jesus and don't get married! |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by alizma: 11:44am On Nov 03, 2024 |
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| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by HitSong: 11:45am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Righteousness2:Ho loriburuku heyWU WHAT IF YOU MAMA NA THE SECOND OR LAST WIFE? You just type NONSENSE without using your brain. How many people in the Bible married just one wife ? And if you even claim to be a Christian, then you're not supposed to get married because Jesus didn't marry. |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by seyi072000(m): 11:45am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Please show me where it is clearly written and stated in the Bible, that a man must marry one wife. I don't want a interpretation, well written "Man must marry one wife" Prophet Abraham (AS) had 3 wives and till today we do song Abraham blessings are mine. What's the fate of the other women. Provided he laid there bride prices and do all the necessary right, I see no issue. What will happen to other women out there, if all men choose to marry one wife? I believe, one can marry 2, 3, 4 provided he can be just and able to take care of them. Please don't mislead people,.so there sin won't be on your head. Marrying one wife is a western idea borrowed into religion not God's will. Salaam! |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by HitSong: 11:46am On Nov 03, 2024 |
flyingdutchman:Exactly Beware of evil so-called Righteousness2 |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by femi4: 11:47am On Nov 03, 2024 |
AntiChristian:Yoruba Muslim doesn't know we honor laid down principles not lifestyle |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Problemssolver: 11:47am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Marrying one wife is a prerequisite for Christians see Titus 1 v 6 If any be blameless, THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. Titus 1:6 |
| Re: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by Template43(m): 11:48am On Nov 03, 2024 |
Why sending them away |
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, as per Deuteronomy 24:1.