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Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.

My dear find another school I'm also a teacher as well, the proprietor is just like my former boss, school are now businesses not a foundation for learning and discipline.

I don't have Time for rubbish,a student will score 1 you will be asked to put 6/7 very useless. Some parents would just be pushing their wards who aren't even supposed to be in secondary school to secondary school.

Another thing is that respect issue, me I don't send at all infact if she overdo it tell her to her face you're not doing anything. Try it for once don't answer her if she's talking just ignore her, if she asks you why tell her you're busy with important things.

After she orders the student, ask the same student out of the class to do the needful. Since she doesn't want to have sense, because of her quest to satisfy their parents, in order to collect school fees She has lost her value.

Jozilinn:
My dear find another school I'm also a teacher as well, the proprietor is just like my former boss, school are now businesses not a foundation for learning and discipline.

I don't have Time for rubbish,a student will score 1 you will be asked to put 6/7 very useless. Some parents would just be pushing their wards who aren't even supposed to be in secondary school to secondary school.

Another thing is that respect issue, me I don't send at all infact if she overdo it tell her to her face you're not doing anything. Try it for once don't answer her if she's talking just ignore her, if she asks you why tell her you're busy with important things.

After she orders the student, ask the same student out of the class to do the needful. Since she doesn't want to have sense, because of her quest to satisfy their parents, in order to collect school fees She has lost her value.

She has really lost her value. It's a pity honestly

Did the new student do test with the others, of not then he or she should meet with the subject teachers to complete the continuous assessment. But if he or she did then you can ask the teachers for their own record. Don't you have an app where teachers upload their CA per class, and per subject.

Allotrope69:
■ I'm glad you have an understanding of what I'm talking about. I feel really pained.

You came to post your complaint and aren't open to accepting that maybe you have had it wrong all of this while? Why bother post on here in the politics section for that matter if all you wanted was to have a pity party?

Kobojunkie:
If student A called student B stupid, what do you think student B should do to student A? Think carefully before responding!

have u been a teacher before?

Sharpsharp00123:
have u been a teacher before?

Yes, I have! Now, please, answer the question!

If student A called student B stupid, what do you think student B should do to student A? Think carefully before responding!

OP, how much is your salary?

Sheybi they don't owe salary, you even used the word NEVER, do your job collect your salary and close your eye to whatever nonsense they are doing.

If the child copies and they say you shouldnot deduct marks don't deduct.

If they say no discipline leave them, but if a student disrespects you can step him/ her out of the class.

Till you can get another better place that doesn't owe salaries.


You monitor jss3 students to eat their meals, children that are above 10years? It only remains for you to feed them niyen. When children as young as 5 are being trained to eat and clean up after?

What private schools are breeding these days is very very dangerous,all because they don't want to lose customers,for supervisors from the state govt to say you guys are over pampering them, then it's way above board.

When they get into the work force the problem becomes more glaring.

Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.
As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.

So you have taught in 9 schools across 4 states and you are still teaching in a school that collects 40k as fees per term?
Sorry but you need to think deeply.

Urgent1Million:
■ So you have taught in 9 schools across 4 states and you are still teaching in a school that collects 40k as fees per term? Sorry but you need to think deeply.

In the current economy, you want him to begin considering dumping his job to look for a better paying job?

Kobojunkie:
In the current economy, you want him to begin considering dumping his job to look for a better paying job?

Yes.
How much salary per month do you think a school taking 40k as fees would pay their teachers?
I am very sure the op is surviving with side hustles.

Urgent1Million:
■ Yes. How much salary per month do you think a school taking 40k as fees would pay their teachers? I am very sure the op is surviving with side hustles.

I am not worried about the school but about OP who needs to keep a job paying him some salary in the current economic situation that is Nigeria. The fact that he is not properly compensated existed before all of these complaints by OP surfaced.

Kobojunkie:
In the current economy, you want him to begin considering dumping his job to look for a better paying job?

I've been noticing you here on nairaland. You enjoy extracting unnecessary conversations from something so common

We4all:
OP, how much is your salary?

It's 40k.

From which I transport.
Pay house rent and feed.
It's saddening

Urgent1Million:
So you have taught in 9 schools across 4 states and you are still teaching in a school that collects 40k as fees per term?
Sorry but you need to think deeply.

if only many of them understand that a bike man makes over 40k per week then they will have sense

Allotrope69 let me tell u the reality of teaching,u can b a private school teacher for 30 years n not have 30k in your account

What u don't understand is that, that bikeman u don't regard makes more than 40k in a week

That keke napep driver u don't regard makes more than 40k in a week

That secondary school drop out who learn mechanic work makes over 40k per week

That POS operator n phone charging man at d junction makes over 40k per week

Leave all these official modern slavery work n enter d streets

Don't wait till u will start begging money from students u taught in school before u understand time is gone

U can still make it from here, a bike man of 9 years go don build house, same with Keke drivers n co

People like illicit can't call that bike rider stupid but they can call a teacher derogatory names

They dare not call that keke napep man stupid cos they know he will beat them silly but they will ridicule a teacher

NoToPile:
Sheybi they don't owe salary, you even used the word NEVER, do your job collect your salary and close your eye to whatever nonsense they are doing.

If the child copies and they say you shouldnot deduct marks don't deduct.

If they say no discipline leave them, but if a student disrespects you can step him/ her out of the class.

Till you can get another better place that doesn't owe salaries.


You monitor jss3 students to eat their meals, children that are above 10years? It only remains for you to feed them niyen. When children as young as 5 are being trained to eat and clean up after?

What private schools are breeding these days is very very dangerous,all because they don't want to lose customers,for supervisors from the state govt to say you guys are over pampering them, then it's way above board.

When they get into the work force the problem becomes more glaring.

We are in a very terrible situation here my brother. It's actually a disservice to these children when u consider the damage in the long run

Kobojunkie:
1. No point in all that stress though! Just report the kid to the parents every time the kid fails to do an assignment. Let the parents handle the disciplining of their child. You should not punish the child... that job belongs to the parents.

2. What were you told to instead do in that case? Whoever told you not to deduct must have told you what to do instead. If the suggestion given was to allow the cheating, then you have every right to invoke Ministry of Education level rules against such acts and have the other teachers weigh in. Cheating is unacceptable and should not be condoned.

@bolded what kind of stupid concept is this for chrissake

Teachers are part of training a child

Sharpsharp00123:
if only many of them understand that a bike man makes over 40k per week then they will have sense

Allotrope69 let me tell u the reality of teaching,u can b a private school teacher for 30 years n not have 30k in your account

What u don't understand is that, that bikeman u don't regard makes more than 40k in a week

That keke napep driver u don't regard makes more than 40k in a week

That secondary school drop out who learn mechanic work makes over 40k per week

That POS operator n phone charging man at d junction makes over 40k per week

Leave all these official modern slavery work n enter d streets

Don't wait till u will start begging money from students u taught in school before u understand time is gone

U can still make it from here, a bike man of 9 years go don build house, same with Keke drivers n co

People like illicit can't call that bike rider stupid but they can call a teacher derogatory names

They dare not call that keke napep man stupid cos they know he will beat them silly but they will ridicule a teacher

You don't understand

I was a teacher...

illicit:
You don't understand

I was a teacher...

but it students say u are stupid n u are cool with it right?

Donaldoni:
@bolded what kind of stupid concept is this for chrissake Teachers are part of training a child

A teacher is training, not punishment. Punishment should be left to the parents. What part of that do you not understand?

Kobojunkie:
A teacher is training, not punishment. Punishment should be left to the parents.

What is training without punishment

Sharpsharp00123:
but it students say u are stupid n u are cool with it right?

If I was stupid, anybody can tell me actually


There are so many u call stupid on nairaland and all of them are not your mates.


I guess I have never been stupid so I guess the occasion never arose for a student to tell me that...

Sharpsharp00123:
but it students say u are stupid n u are cool with it right?

Again, you haven't answered the question. Let me switch it up for you a bit. If a fellow teacher called you stewpid, what do you think would be the appropriate response from you?

illicit:
You don't understand

I was a teacher...

He won't

Donaldoni:
What is training without punishment

Stop dragging words with this guy. Save your sanity

Donaldoni:
■ What is training without punishment

That's simple! It is training.

There are rules when it comes to what penalties or punishments are allowed in each case and these should be established by the school and agreed to by the parents who are the legal guardians of the students. The teacher can penalize a student but punishments for offenses are to be according to the school rule book signed by the parents of the student.

Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.

Before I comment, how much be your salary wey u go dey take all these insults and embarrassment. E reach 100k?

CJStarz:
Before I comment, how much be your salary wey u go dey take all these insults and embarrassment. E reach 100k?

40k

Transport, rent and feeding from it

Allotrope69:
Honestly. Reason I refused to replied his comment. He's actually an idiot.

It is really Unfortunate that you side with a well known APC Agbadorian IDIOT to call another person Idiot.

Illicit is Actually Right.
When a Student is Stubborn and insult you, Beat him very well.
But Later call him to your side and be Friendly with him/her.

You have taught in 9 Schools but It's clear you are NOT an experienced teacher at all.

illicit:
If I was stupid, anybody can tell me actually


There are so many u call stupid on nairaland and all of them are not your mates.


I guess I have never been stupid so I guess the occasion never arose for a student to tell me that...

Illicit, Abeg Leave the OP.
The OP is not a Seasoned Teacher despite staying in the profession for years.

If he was, he would have found to Micro-manage his time in school,
Instead of complaining like a Frustrated housewife.

And the Beating part, you and KoboJunkie are Right, It's not Everytime you beat students.

Beat a Student but NEVER create the Impression you hate him/her.

VinnyBaba:
■ Illicit, Abeg Leave the OP. The OP is not a Seasoned Teacher despite staying in the profession for years. If he was, he would have found to Micro-manage his time in school, Instead of complaining like a Frustrated housewife. And the Beating part, you and KoboJunkie are Right, It's not Everytime you beat students. Beat a Student but NEVER create the Impression you hate him/her.

I am completely against teachers ASSAULTING their students altogether.

A teacher can penalize a student— send him out of the class, fine him or something— but never punish the student. Punishments should all be handled according to school Policy as signed off and agreed upon by the parents instead.

VinnyBaba:
Illicit, Abeg Leave the OP.
The OP is not a Seasoned Teacher despite staying in the profession for years.

If he was, he would have found to Micro-manage his time in school,
Instead of complaining like a Frustrated housewife.

And the Beating part, you and KoboJunkie are Right, It's not Everytime you beat students.

Beat a Student but NEVER create the Impression you hate him/her.

Yeah right...

It's not right to teach pupils or students that violence solve problems


In British or American schools, no form of violence is allowed

In regular schools, if you will beat a student for stealing or hooliganism, I will support u

Like you said, you just don't beat students for everything...