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Allotrope69:
The sch will never suspend a student. It's terrible.

Then U need to start looking for other options. And I'm guessing from the school fees U quoted earlier the pay will not be much. Omor Una dey try as teachers sha, come still dey collect disrespect and disregard on top

Please leave the school if you can, op. Don't have a hand in a generation that will curse you later. Call the school owners out and inform ministry of educations for proper investigations, they usually love scapegoats or will milk the school owners till they sit up and do the right thing. Social media is the new sophisticated weapon these days, use it. You can even stay anonymous and deal with the rubbish school.

I won't mention names but you know yourselves and I know you are reading this, YOU ARE A D*MB AND MISER*BLE F**L! YOUR OPINIONS ARE AS STUPID AS YOU ARE AND YOU NEED TO BE CHECKED! IF PUNCHES COULD BE SENT THROUGH PHONE, I WOULD HAVE SENT SOME TO PUT REAL SENSE INTO YOUR NUMBSKULL. IDI*T!

thatigboman:
Op, I have not read the rest of your story, but on the part of you telling the child to round the teachers and collect his scripts is totally wrong. The proprietress is wright on that. A pupil is not the one that will go round and collect his scripts, more so, a poor performing pupil. What if collects them and alter them? Or even burn them completely?
Even in universities, u sit for courses that are across several departments and faculties, u dont go to anyone to collect your script and submit to your department. When results come out, just go to department's board and check your scores.

It's not scripts sir. It's for the students to know his scores. He will be told his scores verbally. That's all

mhiztaNexy:
Please leave the school if you can, op. Don't have a hand in a generation that will curse you later. Call the school owners out and inform ministry of educations for proper investigations, they usually love scapegoats or will milk the school owners till they sit up and do the right thing. Social media is the new sophisticated weapon these days, use it. You can even stay anonymous and deal with the rubbish school.

I won't mention names but you know yourselves and I know you are reading this, YOU ARE A D*MB AND MISER*BLE F**L! YOUR OPINIONS ARE AS STUPID AS YOU ARE AND YOU NEED TO BE CHECKED! IF PUNCHES COULD BE SENT THROUGH PHONE, I WOULD HAVE SENT SOME TO PUT REAL SENSE INTO YOUR NUMBSKULL. IDI*T!

Thanks for your concern Sir. I appreciate 🙏🙏

dkidd:
Then U need to start looking for other options. And I'm guessing from the school fees U quoted earlier the pay will not be much. Omor Una dey try as teachers sha, come still dey collect disrespect and disregard on top

So painful.
But that's only for the tuition fee. My brother, these sch owners have ways of making money aside from the basic sch fees.

That's why I resigned 3 times and I'm now into private lessons. It's very lucrative if you can consider it. However, the subject(s) you teach may determine your income,for example, Mathematics,Physics, etc.

Allotrope69:
So painful.
But that's only for the tuition fee. My brother, these sch owners have ways of making money aside from the basic sch fees.

Yeah I know that bro but then does it reflect on Ur pay? And if it does, is it worth it? U sound like a very experienced teacher U can take Ur value elsewhere or U can just accept things the way they're until something gives

atheistandproud:
@Allotrope69 from an ex teacher to you

I have experienced everything you are going through and more. I have taught from primary school to tertiary level. I still gladly teach or volunteer to do so when the opportunity arises but never in the formal private school setting. I have seen shege. From Finisher's where they wanted to finish us to Unique where they were uniquely wicked.

I have seen management try to set up teachers against each other. Should I talk about the overwork or the withholding of salaries, over pampering of kids or the worship of parents?

The last straw for me was a matter that I had no clue about, but yet got a query for. As soon as I was cleared of all wrongdoing, I simply quit and left two months of salary with them in November of 2018.

I do very okay for myself as a Social Media Manager, Content Creator, YouTuber and Virtual Assistant.

Also, you should note when someone who has never taught before is speaking and learn to ignore them so that they'll wilt. Nairaland is a toxic hovel. There's many frustrated people who lack contact from other humans and are looking to take out their frustrations on you. They are only here to harass you. Ignore them. If you can, pick up something else as someone has advised and start making your moves or in 10 years you'll hate yourself. Time moves quickly.

Cheers 🥂

Thanks so much Sir. I appreciate u sincerely. God bless you 🙏

lexczy:
That's why I resigned 3 times and I'm now into private lessons. It's very lucrative if you can consider it. However, the subject(s) you teach may determine your income,for example, Mathematics,Physics, etc.

This is good too @op

dkidd:
This is good too @op

Alright Sir. Thanks

Beremx:
The experience I had teaching primary five spoilt brats whose parents are rich, I vowed never to teach in a school again. Imagine kids of 10 years threatening their teachers with police arrest? The proprietress of the school pampers the kids and see no fault in them.

I weak

It shall never be well with that student for not locking you up in police cell

Ezennia101:
I could remember during my service year then I was posted to a secondary school,I just went to the school principal and told him to reject me but he refused. Then I told him if he doesn't want trouble he should better reject me cos the School won't contain the both of us ,so after much persuasion he rejected me and as God may have it Nigerian Geological survey Agency requested for my service. Op I pray God will give you a better environment that will suite your profession and passion. Please if life blesses you with your own school tomorrow, keep this same standard of yours and treat your staffs better.... better days ahead

Make una help op with something na. Teachers are suffering o

How una dey do am, as am employee under private enterprises. Thank God I discovered earlier enough dat I cant work under person, so started to be the boss of my own . Common small month way I worked with etisalat, I nearly tear my supervisor hot slap. I was so hot headed Dem use because of COVID 19 terminate my contract etisalat., telling me after lockdown I should come again so dey will review my contract. Dem supposedly held my two months salary. I vex leave Abuja for them, enter my Enugu start bizness. About one year later, my supervisor called me say make I come make Dem review my contract then pay my salary.i tell dem Make Dem chop the salary I no need am

atheistandproud:
@Allotrope69 from an ex teacher to you

I have experienced everything you are going through and more. I have taught from primary school to tertiary level. I still gladly teach or volunteer to do so when the opportunity arises but never in the formal private school setting. I have seen shege. From Finisher's where they wanted to finish us to Unique where they were uniquely wicked.

I have seen management try to set up teachers against each other. Should I talk about the overwork or the withholding of salaries, over pampering of kids or the worship of parents?

The last straw for me was a matter that I had no clue about, but yet got a query for. As soon as I was cleared of all wrongdoing, I simply quit and left two months of salary with them in November of 2018.

I do very okay for myself as a Social Media Manager, Content Creator, YouTuber and Virtual Assistant.

Also, you should note when someone who has never taught before is speaking and learn to ignore them so that they'll wilt. Nairaland is a toxic hovel. There's many frustrated people who lack contact from other humans and are looking to take out their frustrations on you. They are only here to harass you. Ignore them. If you can, pick up something else as someone has advised and start making your moves or in 10 years you'll hate yourself. Time moves quickly.

Cheers 🥂

Try help op with something at least. Let's encourage him. He's even an orphan. Chaii. Life is unfair. Being a teacher in dis country is terribly bad

Allotrope69:
Oga pls free me.
What do u know?

What is weakness in me dancing for my students when teaching them?
If u lack what to say, pls kindly ignore the post.

Pls stop it truly this is JSS 3 we talking for Christ sake? I supported your earlier comments but this one should be a no-no to avoid see finish....You can joke once in a while but not dance pls

Allotrope69:
It's not scripts sir. It's for the students to know his scores. He will be told his scores verbally. That's all

in your own words "Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me" tests were written and scripts marked. They have to be collated and tabulated. Which one is him being told the scores verbally? For 18 subjects. For someone performing as poorly as u claimed, u think he will remember correctly all the scores the teachers tell him?

@Allotrope69, reply this

Allotrope69:
It's so sad

And barely can their husbands checkmate such. Such a dead end.

ezewealth:
How una dey do am, as am employee under private enterprises. Thank God I discovered earlier enough dat I cant work under person, so started to be the boss of my own . Common small month way I worked with etisalat, I nearly tear my supervisor hot slap. I was so hot headed Dem use because of COVID 19 terminate my contract etisalat., telling me after lockdown I should come again so dey will review my contract. Dem supposedly held my two months salary. I vex leave Abuja for them, enter my Enugu start bizness. About one year later, my supervisor called me say make I come make Dem review my contract then pay my salary.i tell dem Make Dem chop the salary I no need am

Why not support OP with something?
Let's encourage him. Not easy been a private sch teacher now

thatigboman:
in your own words "Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me"

So Scores mean script?

Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

Some parents also try to bully teachers cos they are backed up by the school owners. After all, a customer is always right. If a Parent contracts u to have a private lesson for their child, and such parent refuses to pay you at the time they should pay, and u dare ask for your money, u could be in hot soup. The parent might call the school owners to report that you're harassing them and you will get the blame. In fact, the school owners tell u what to charge them.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

How can a Proprietoress who was once a teacher in someone's sch boldly tell her staff that their Future end here in her sch, and that the students are now the future. And that the children will be more successful than the teachers? . It tells a lot as to how she sees and perceives her employees and reason she mistreats her staff. She has placed a limit on us that we can't go beyond where we are.

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.

You are not cut out for teaching or you better open your own school. You can complain for Africa yet you find fault in every one except you. Just leave the educational system or adjust till you realize that those children are not irredeemable and you may just be the one to save them

Allotrope69:
So Scores mean script?

u are indicting yourself more

Allotrope69:
So Scores mean script?

I updated the post. Reply the updated one

Kobojunkie:
I send children to school every morning here. I don't send them there to be punished by their teachers but rather for the teachers to train them. When kids do something wrong at school, the school may penalize them but the parents are responsible for doling out punishment they feel is most appropriate for the kids. That is one of the reasons why the school calls home immediately to report the situation to the parents. Rather than take it into their hands to decide for themselves.

If you still can't seem to comprehend what I have been saying all this while, then I am afraid I can't help you at all.

Is your head correct at all If a student steals another student's property, the offender should not be punished immediately
If a student physically bullies another, the offender should not be punished immediately
If a student sexually abuses another, the offender should not be punished immediately
Etc Etc

Punishment must be meted out and then the parents can be informed thereafter.

I have exception in all these. I truly have years l have put in the teaching rubbish and have vowes never will l allow any of my relatives to teach.
See in this school kill not thyself... Make the kids your friends against the school, teach them well as you do and make the classworks very simple and homework too... Let them flow with you and be in the good books of the parents and student's... Fuxk that school and do your thing but don't beg any parent for anything

Donaldoni:
■ Is your head correct at all
■ If a student steals another student's property, the offender should not be punished immediately
■ If a student physically bullies another, the offender should not be punished immediately
■ If a student sexually abuses another, the offender should not be punished immediately
Etc Etc
■ Punishment must be meted out and then the parents can be informed thereafter.

The problem here is you folks don't answer questions when asked and you fail when asked to reason things critically....

► Stealing is a legal offense. So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case?
► Yet another legal offense! So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case?
► Yet another legal offense! So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case?

Legal offenses such as the ones listed above are NOT for the school to handle. Your principal, by law, does not have the right to take it upon himself to handle the third case at all. He can attempt to handle the first ONLY IF his parents have permitted him to do so. Otherwise, he could be charged to court by the parents and that would not bode well for him or his school. As for the second and third cases, the school is required by law to inform the parents and get the authorities involved as the law is clear on the above crimes.

4. Now you are just talking jargon at this point! The Law in Nigeria is pretty clear on what must take place in any of the cases you noted above. But you seem to disagree with the law here suggesting instead that somehow your teachers should take the law into their own hands to prosecute the cases without the guardian being notified before what has taken place. And we wonder why many Nigerians don't know or follow their law nor know their left from their right as far as the law of the land is concerned.

Allotrope69:
40k

Transport, rent and feeding from it

I can relate.
I bn there.
I understand the humiliation.
Apply for a job in another school, that is, if you can't find another kind of job aside teaching.


Staying back in this school is doing more harm to your mental health.
It erodes your sense of self esteem.
Go to a school where you are valued.
D longer U stay in this particular one, the more inferiority complex you'll develop without realizing it.
Leave that school.
You will survive, regardless.

Allotrope69:
Amen. Thanks

Save like say ya life depends on it, then take off! I mean go n start ya own biz. School teachers na then dey suffer pass for white collar employment in Nigeria.

Honestly we appreciate teachers less......its very heartbreaking.

Allotrope69:
The sch ke?
You will use your airtime.
That's not a problem as far as I'm concerned. We are all humans and adults, we don't need to be Told about some of these things. But why should we be compelled to do so when they can't buy us airtime?

For all this stress I hope you earn over 300k monthly

Lamasta:
So if someone you are training calls you stupid is this the response you will give

If you are taken to Man City Academy for football and a child call you stupid, you will beat him, abi?😏😕

Most of you supporting the OP are IGNORANT about teaching rules.

Just like Foreign countries, Some schools are Soft on punishment for Kids.

You as a Staff should adhere and respect their Wishes instead of being Headstrong like the Uncouth and Immature OP.

Kobojunkie:
Concerning the eating of lunches,you should not force the kid to eat the lunch if the kid does not wish to but you should at least report that the lunch was not eaten. I mean that is not a bad idea.

As for making certain parents are informed of their child's absence, I don't see anything wrong with that? Just be certain that the one paying for the phone call is the school and not you.

In my own case, I must pay myself. Even on kicking against that, some staff kicked against me just cos I am a new staff there or that I am not their tribal person or they felt showing respect to them meant fear of them. I never see in my life in this country o. Some staff have sworn to be slave to employers forever

thatigboman:
u are indicting yourself more

He does NOT listen to another's person point. Defensive and has Self/Foolish Pride.
He even called someone (Illicit) an Idiot over a simple advice.

I understand why he has issues with Students and his colleagues.
And has been jumping from school to school.

If he continues with this his TERRIBLE Behaviour, He will face similar complaints in any profession and will continue to struggle in life.

He has Taught in 9 Schools yet behaves like a School Cert 18yr old teacher.