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Ezennia101:
When and how he will do it I personally don't know, but I promise you he will surely do it . Just keep praying remain positive and diligent, don't forget to tell us when it comes through cos I would love to bear witness to your testimony. Our God never fails .

NoToPile:
What I find amusing in this thread is the notion that all students who attend expensive schools are not disciplined.

There are high end schools whose students know that there are consequences for actions and they wouldn't do such actions because of the consequences.

Well mannered children exist in expensive schools too.

When grooming a child and he/she knows there are no consequences for actions, you are heading for trouble In training that child.

Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

Some parents also try to bully teachers cos they are backed up by the school owners. After all, a customer is always right. If a Parent contracts u to have a private lesson for their child, and such parent refuses to pay you at the time they should pay, and u dare ask for your money, u could be in hot soup. The parent might call the school owners to report that you're harassing them and you will get the blame. In fact, the school owners tell u what to charge them.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

How can a Proprietoress who was once a teacher in someone's sch boldly tell her staff that their Future end here in her sch, and that the students are now the future. And that the children will be more successful than the teachers? . It tells a lot as to how she sees and perceives her employees and reason she mistreats her staff. She has placed a limit on us that we can't go beyond where we are.

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.

Allotrope69:
The teachers there are all women. We are 42 teaching staff in bothe the creche, kindergarten, nursery, primary and secondary. Out of the 42 staff, only five a men, including me. But even the men still act as women. They are controlled by the school owners. Three weeks ago, I was informed that I would be given management position in the school, but I politely turned it down. Why? Because as a management staff, my suggestions will never be given due consideration so what's the point? There's also no special salary for that. I told my Boss, that I will always come up with ideas to better the sch and act the way he wants, but I can't accept the role of being a management staff. He was shocked.
Now we can't have a union. They won't allow it. Cos they will see it as a rebellious union. I first taught in 2012. And after a term in that sch, I was made the dean of studies and chairman of staff welfare. I was so so close to the sch owners and was highly influential cos I was extremely dedicated to duty. That's the sch I will never forget . A great sch who wants discipline and sanity

illicit:
Yes there are disciplinary measures but it doesn't have to be violence

When you teach kids that violence solves problems they become aggressive

Cultists, ritualists, robbers, killers



Violence solves nothing, most of the cultists you have today are products of govt schools where they were flogged thoroughly even for coming late to school

Allotrope69:
Oye' mi

mhiztaNexy:
What about the killers, psychopaths, gang members, rapist, abductors, school attackers and crazy kids in juvenile prisons. What are they product of?

Do you watch kids crimes and crimes scene they show on tvs? Don't you see how they are more heartless and brutal? Did you hear of what happened in a juvenile prison in usa recently? How many have you heard of in naija?

These kids grow up mannerless without remorse and you are here spilling trash, calling proper ass whopping violence.

If you see real violence committed by their kids compared to ours, you will shut the Bleep up. Do you realize they suffer from bullying in schools over there than we have here?

The internet is there for you to do your research.

illicit:
I never said that...

It takes investigation to decide if the teacher was stupid or not

Do you think that being a teacher means that someone can't be stupid?


We have seen a lot of stupid adults

If I go back to uni today, if a lecturer behave stupidly in my presence I will tell him to his face and say it again at the disciplinary panel

illicit:
I am talking about Nigerian kids


The ones you refer to, they are probably from dysfunctional homes or have psychological problems, I can't say.


All I know is that if flogging solves any problem, we shouldn't have cultists in our universities then

Here in Nigeria.

I guess you live in the US

mhiztaNexy:
Do you get? Not nursery, not kindergarten, not primary school. Primary 5 sef get as e be. The thing dey vex me I swear.

illicit:
I never said that...

It takes investigation to decide if the teacher was stupid or not

Do you think that being a teacher means that someone can't be stupid?


We have seen a lot of stupid adults


So even if the teacher is stupid, you are encouraging the student to say it outrightly to the teacher. People like you are the problem of the educational system.

If I go back to uni today, if a lecturer behave stupidly in my presence I will tell him to his face and say it again at the disciplinary panel

OlawaleBammie:
Guy sebi u re from ekiti??

Where is ur sense na

Teymanhenry:
During my time as a teacher, my proprietor recognized my commitment to focusing on the essentials of education. I prioritized instilling character, morals, and academic knowledge in my students, rather than simply babysitting. My approach emphasized substance over superficiality, and I'm proud to have maintained that standard.

mhiztaNexy:
I am a Nigerian and I live in Nigeria. I put it to you that flogging has instilled discipline in kids than mere talks.

No be mere talk God follow Adam and Eve talk and they still did what they wanted to do?

How many of you can really put up with spoilt rich kids when you hang around with them?

Who uses the psychiatric hospital and rehabilitation centres more? These are affects of what?

Train your child the way they should live and when they grow up, they will never depart from it.

They didn't use "talk to your child the way they should live"!

illicit:
Yeah sure

See this is what I mean, when I was serving I was a teacher

It was the practice in that school to flog students and send them home when they do not pay school fees, when actually it's the parents that owe

So what's the point of flogging the kids, they don't work, if anybody should be flogged, invite the parents and flog them.

And what's the point of sending the kids home, they obviously don't go home, most parents already left home so the kids don't go home or they go home and they are largely unsupervised so they can commit nonsense

Girls go to boys home or boys go to girls hone of they go to the bush to smoke or play useless games, even rape.... It's ridiculous and pointless

I explained all these to the principal. He was embarrassed and reasoned deeply with me.

He stopped flogging the students for fees and if they had to be sent home, he makes sure he inform the parents beforehand. If you are owing don't bother to let your child come on so so so day....

That's all

I saved their butts


Kobojunkie

illicit:
Yeah sure

See this is what I mean, when I was serving I was a teacher

It was the practice in that school to flog students and send them home when they do not pay school fees, when actually it's the parents that owe

So what's the point of flogging the kids, they don't work, if anybody should be flogged, invite the parents and flog them.

And what's the point of sending the kids home, they obviously don't go home, most parents already left home so the kids don't go home or they go home and they are largely unsupervised so they can commit nonsense

Girls go to boys home or boys go to girls hone of they go to the bush to smoke or play useless games, even rape.... It's ridiculous and pointless

I explained all these to the principal. He was embarrassed and reasoned deeply with me.

He stopped flogging the students for fees and if they had to be sent home, he makes sure he inform the parents beforehand. If you are owing don't bother to let your child come on so so so day....

That's all

I saved their butts


Kobojunkie

illicit:
I can tell you

I taught in a british christian school in Abuja

It will surprise you how well behaved those kids are

I had kids in grade 8, jss2 who have been to at least 10 solid countries, some of them are even half Nigerian or indian or French

I don't see all these you mentioned among them


They were trained not to be violent, they will rather speak their mind than use their fists

mhiztaNexy:
How is connected with mannerless kids?

I don't support beating kids for school fee, failing to buy textbooks and other nonsense some schools do.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISRESPECTFUL AND MANNERLESS KIDS THAT SEE NO WRONG IN THEIR DOINGS!

mhiztaNexy:
Because they were properly raised and there was no use for rods. Because there are good kids in that school, that justifies the fact that there are no terrible kids in other schools? The world doesn't revolve in your bedroom boss.

Kobojunkie:
You came to post your complaint and aren't open to accepting that maybe you have had it wrong all of this while? Why bother post on here in the politics section for that matter if all you wanted was to have a pity party?

illicit:
Well it's wrong to flog a student tho


No violence in British or American curriculum schools

In moderate private schools , flogging is allowed in a case of stealing or hooliganism. I will support that.

However teaching job is not worth it in Nigeria.

Very few exceptions

illicit:
If a student steals or fought

Well, you might beat them. I will support that. It won't happen In foreign curriculum schools tho


It's really out of point for beating a kid for talking.

If a student calls a teacher stupid, a british school will investigate the matter, the parents will be invited, the child will be sanctioned, by spending time at the counsellors office, apologizing to her teacher, her parents and her mates

If anybody should flog her, let the parents take her home and do that

Do you expect the teacher to slap the kid?

It will make matters worse

Apcshyte:
You are sick

mhiztaNexy:
I am a Nigerian and I live in Nigeria. I put it to you that flogging has instilled discipline in kids than mere talks.

No be mere talk God follow Adam and Eve talk and they still did what they wanted to do?

How many of you can really put up with spoilt rich kids when you hang around with them?

Who uses the psychiatric hospital and rehabilitation centres more? These are affects of what?

Train your child the way they should live and when they grow up, they will never depart from it.

They didn't use "talk to your child the way they should live"!

molybdenum0012:
Firstly, I feel your pain. That said, I do believe part of the blame lies with you. As a math teacher, you should be highly respected at that school. It all depends on how you carry yourself—after all, you’re teaching a core subject.

Let me share my experience as a teacher from about five years ago.

It was a small school, and the monthly salary was 22k. I was told that I was the only teacher earning that much, while the others earned 2k less. Working hours were from 7:30 am to 2:00 pm, with a mandatory after-school session from 2:10 pm to 4:30 pm. The revenue from the after-school lessons was shared among the teachers and the proprietor in set percentages.

You can imagine how meager the pay was given all the hard work. So, I started marketing myself online, looking for after-school tutoring opportunities to supplement my low income. I registered with several online tutoring platforms, which helped me find at least two students—one paying 15k and the other 26k monthly for three weekly sessions each. That brought in a total of 41k!

I realized I didn’t really need the school if I could earn that on a part-time basis. Feeling confident, I approached the administration, requesting to leave by 2 pm without attending the after-school program. They resisted, of course! I told them I’d rather resign, and guess what? They granted my request. They had no choice; it's hard to find a good math teacher.

Later, I got a third student who alone paid 50k monthly for three weekly sessions. I went back to the school and asked them to compress my schedule so I’d only need to come in three days a week; otherwise, I’d leave. Guess what? That was granted too!

My point is: you must make yourself stand out and become indispensable at the school. Let them see how valuable you are without having to say it. They will never treat you condescendingly, ever.

mhiztaNexy:
Hell no! You don't have to slap the kid. Let them know there would be ass whooping session after stupid and disrespectful behaviors. How many teachers slapped you? Why do students fear and respect intro tech teachers/no nonsense teacher the most during our time? Is that not discipline? We do we sit up to avoid flogging? Do you think mere talks would have done that? Even the whites have started using their belts!

That culture you guys are trying to promote has done more harm than good! The kids over there insults their parents, beat them, kill them, easily abandon without remorse. Siblings don't find incest wrong. They have no real feelings and respect for anyone over there. Is that what you want in our society?

lagosrd:
Flogging a child for wring doing or disobedience and nonchalancy is not violence. Stop breeding silly children that infect others with their stupidity.

The only thing is not to beat them or punish them out of annoyance.

Id int understand what we want to turn children to. They can only be corrected when they are young and not when they have grown wings. Imagine a jss1 student slapping the principal ( a grown up woman with 3 kids and her kids are in yhe same school ) and the proprietor said she should be pardoned becis she just relocated from Egypt. What nonsense.

Spare the child and spoil the rod... Bible

illicit:
Please let's stay in Nigeria


Now, those cultists in Nigeria, did they not have intro tech teachers?

Look at all the girls, turining to Olosho and strippers
Why didn't they behave responsibly after all the straight face and no nonsense teachers they had.

The answer is not in the school, it's the house

Flog your child a home, you will have a better result, don't leave it to the teacher, it's not the teachers job

illicit:
I mean schools don't perform magic

A rude child will be a rude child. Those things are better corrected at home

Flogging them at school is counterproductive

Why do other students have to witness such violence, let the parents take them home and use the rod


I don't get paid to beat people

Allotrope69:
40k

iLoveYouToo:
Man, I know times are bad, put more value on yourself, that’s below minimum wage. What’s your highest qualification?

Zackattack:
This man, you complain too much. If you’ve taught in private schools that long, you definitely must have seen it all. These things happen in most private schools. The only issue I see here is you using your own credit to contact parents when their child is absent.
This people are paying your salaries promptly, take solace in that.