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Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by V3li(m):
Reading this I felt like you were telling my story, if not for lack of jobs I will advice all living humans NEVER to apply for teaching in a private school, I taught in a private school and my experience is almost the same as yours, I was made the coordinator or my block which is the senior block, with no extra pay but bulky work, if a teacher doesn't come to school and didn't notify the proprietaress, she will blame me, if she comes and am not going round to make sure things are in order in the block I will be blamed, the same me have to be in a class teaching, the same me have books to mark, the same me must give assignments, the same me was teaching from nursery 3 to jss 1, 3 subjects each. I mean nursery 3 History and current affair, religious studies and cultural and creative act from nursery 3 to Jss 1. I go to the school as a coordinator before 7am I close 4pm sometimes 6pm. Some days I go home with sack filled with books just to go and mark. Some weekends we are made to come to school for one activity or the other. It got to a point I will sit down and be hearing my name or seeing blurry because of stress, dey said the will pay 30k but staying in the school from 7 to 4 you will definitely be hungry, if you eat from the school kitchen 500 per plate it will be written down, at the end of the month it will be deducted from your salary, sometimes you end up collecting a very dirty amount as salary after several deductions. I didn't have anyone or any job but when I left that school I didn't look back at all, and is one of the best decisions I have made in my life. Private schools use teachers to the core.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by iLoveYouToo(m): 10:47am On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
B.sc(Ed)
WTF are you doing man; With all that experience you’re willing to accept 40k monthly?

I’m sure there’s something else out there for you. Let me think this through.

What part of the country do you reside?
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 10:51am On Nov 09, 2024
iLoveYouToo:
WTF are you doing man; With all that experience you’re willing to accept 40k monthly?

I’m sure there’s something else out there for you. Let me think this through.

What part of the country do you reside?
In Nassarawa sir
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by iLoveYouToo(m): 11:01am On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
In Nassarawa sir
Oh! This is shitty. I thought you were in Lagos, 😥
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by gaddafe(m): 11:12am On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
The sch ke?
You will use your airtime.
That's not a problem as far as I'm concerned. We are all humans and adults, we don't need to be Told about some of these things. But why should we be compelled to do so when they can't buy us airtime?
Then that is a simple thing. Tell them you don't have money to call, that you are seriously broke even if you aren't. They can't fire you for that. If they do please leave.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Elmuktari(m): 11:12am On Nov 09, 2024
You're teaching in a Southwestern state, I guess!
Things like these are common over there except in some of their Muslim schools.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by NoToPile: 11:22am On Nov 09, 2024
illicit:
Yes there are disciplinary measures but it doesn't have to be violence

When you teach kids that violence solves problems they become aggressive

Cultists, ritualists, robbers, killers



Violence solves nothing, most of the cultists you have today are products of govt schools where they were flogged thoroughly even for coming late to school
I never even mentioned violence in my write up.

In the OP's school there are no consequences for actions, even exam malpractice - that's my grouse.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Zackattack: 11:26am On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
Please if u lack what to say, then keep quiet. Of all the things I posted, that's the only thing u saw to react to?
You’re not looking for advice. You’re looking for people to support you even when you’re out of line in your profession.
I can bet you cannot stay in a school for up to 2 years with this attitude.
As a teacher, you’re expected to display decorum and decency at all times, and I’m yet to see that.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by yarimo(m): 11:29am On Nov 09, 2024
Beremx:
werey is that you breed terrorists in kogi state? Now I know how you were brought up.

Anu ofia

Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Zackattack: 11:31am On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
Honestly. Reason I refused to replied his comment. He's actually an idiot.
A teacher calling someone he doesn’t even know ‘idiot’🙈.
You’re not a teacher. If you like, teach for 100years.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by sfinkzslot(m): 11:34am On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
Deal or leave, no work is going to be smooth even if its your business -u can try and see. however what kind of teacher will tell a jss 3 student to go to 18 teacher for his CA results in this time and age, shows a lack of competency and passion
Deal or leave!
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 11:51am On Nov 09, 2024
V3li:
Reading this I felt like you am were telling my story, if not for lack of jobs I will advice all living humans NEVER to apply for teaching in a private school, I thought in a private school and my experience is almost the same as yours, I was made the coordinator or my block which is the senior block, with no extra pay but bulky work, if a teacher doesn't come to school and didn't notify the proprietaress, she will blame me, if she comes and am not going round to make sure things are in order in the block I will be blamed, the same me have to be in a class teaching, the same me have books to mark, the same me must give assignments, the same me was teaching from nursery 3 to jss 1, 3 subjects each. I mean nursery 3 History and current affair, religious studies and cultural and creative act from nursery 3 to Jss 1. I go to the school as a coordinator before 7am I close 4pm sometimes 6pm. Some days I go home with sack filled with books just to go and mark. Some weekends we are made to come to school for one activity or the other. It got to a point I will sit down and be hearing my name or seeing blurry because of stress, dey said the will pay 30k but staying in the school from 7 to 4 you will definitely be hungry, if you eat from the school kitchen 500 per plate it will be written down, at the end of the month it will be deducted from your salary, sometimes you end up collecting a very dirty amount as salary after several deductions. I didn't have anyone or any job but when I felt that school I didn't look back at all, and is one of the best decisions I have made in my life. Private schools use teachers to the core.
You're right. It's a very sad situation we have found ourselves.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 11:53am On Nov 09, 2024
Elmuktari:
You're teaching in a Southwestern state, I guess!
Things like these are common over there except in some of their Muslim schools.
Pls let's not bring southwest or east, north into this conversation please. This occurrence in private schools isn't only peculiar to a specific region. It's everywhere
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 11:55am On Nov 09, 2024
NoToPile:
I never even mentioned violence in my write up.

In the OP's school there are no consequences for actions, even exam malpractice - that's my grouse.
Exactly. No penalty for any offence as long as the offence is coming from a student. It's preposterous
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 11:57am On Nov 09, 2024
Karleb:
Your problem is that you love what will kill you.

On God! There are a lot of places that would treat you like a king/queen, all you need do is just apply, some won't even need skill you don't already have.

But if you are hell bent on teaching with the absurd work environment because of one stupid passion, then good luck.

Your happiness is in your own hand.
Pls gimme another job now and I will gladly leave
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 11:59am On Nov 09, 2024
patrickodey18:
please where is your location?
Nassarawa State
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 12:01pm On Nov 09, 2024
mhiztaNexy:
I am a Nigerian and I live in Nigeria. I put it to you that flogging has instilled discipline in kids than mere talks.

No be mere talk God follow Adam and Eve talk and they still did what they wanted to do?

How many of you can really put up with spoilt rich kids when you hang around with them?

Who uses the psychiatric hospital and rehabilitation centres more? These are affects of what?

Train your child the way they should live and when they grow up, they will never depart from it.

They didn't use "talk to your child the way they should live"!
Some of these commenters have never taught before and would never understand what I am saying. Just ignore them. Let them keep spoiling their kids. The day of reckoning is at hand
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 12:05pm On Nov 09, 2024
dustmalik:
No one should listen to your suggestions, because they are all stupid suggestions.
Very stupid suggestions my brother. I've stopped responding to him. Hes an attention seeker who thrives on writing controversial stuffs to Garner attention
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by lagosrd: 12:10pm On Nov 09, 2024
illicit:
The school can spare the rod

Why should the parents ?
The student suppose to resume school in bandages, the school will have no choice than to forgive and forget
Do you get my point?
I think our conversation should conclude as , we need to keep an eye on those children, they are bound to be naughty when small and they need guidance and correction. We can't afford to leave them or spare them to their own faith. They will grow sour. Imagine what they know now at their age and what you know at the same age.

Some of them will do better when you stoke them. Children of nowadays are different from those breed in the past. They want their freedom right form the womb and they seems not want to blink an eye.

You see , there was a case of one of my cousins calling our big sister girl. Uno the sister (68) is just a year you get them the girls father. Initially wanted to slug it out with the big sister for being hostile to the girl (30). But it broke me down completely when I was eventually able to amount courage to extra why she was a bit hostile to the girl. Mind you her children are way way older than this girl.

Now let's imagine a girl whose parents just relocated from Egypt in my daughter's school just gave some few dirty slaps to their principal and the proprietor said it will be settled amicably. Note the principal had 3 kids in the same school ,. Married ooo.

So as the principal, how will you feel ? as the husband how will you feel ? as one of the children that is grown enough to understand the scenario, how will you feel ?

I think we need to reason beyond our sentiments. We really need to disabuse our thinking
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by NobleStag007: 12:15pm On Nov 09, 2024
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Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by illicit(m): 12:27pm On Nov 09, 2024
lagosrd:
I think our conversation should conclude as , we need to keep an eye on those children, they are bound to be naughty when small and they need guidance and correction. We can't afford to leave them or spare them to their own faith. They will grow sour. Imagine what they know now at their age and what you know at the same age.

Some of them will do better when you stoke them. Children of nowadays are different from those breed in the past. They want their freedom right form the womb and they seems not want to blink an eye.

You see , there was a case of one of my cousins calling our big sister girl. Uno the sister (68) is just a year you get them the girls father. Initially wanted to slug it out with the big sister for being hostile to the girl (30). But it broke me down completely when I was eventually able to amount courage to extra why she was a bit hostile to the girl. Mind you her children are way way older than this girl.

Now let's imagine a girl whose parents just relocated from Egypt in my daughter's school just gave some few dirty slaps to their principal and the proprietor said it will be settled amicably. Note the principal had 3 kids in the same school ,. Married ooo.

So as the principal, how will you feel ? as the husband how will you feel ? as one of the children that is grown enough to understand the scenario, how will you feel ?

I think we need to reason beyond our sentiments. We really need to disabuse our thinking
The Egyptian girl

The school wont beat her

If anybody has to beat her, let her parents do that or take her to another school

The principal couldn't have retaliated. His kids dare not fight her

If in a government school, that's a different thing but in real private schools, maybe he should just resign...
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by gerizzim: 12:33pm On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
Yes I'm a no nonsense teacher. But I still find time to play with the students. I even dance for them when teaching
Pls don't rack my ribs young man. you say you dey dance for class?
You don't need to act like a comedian or clown to make dem accept or like you.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 12:39pm On Nov 09, 2024
gerizzim:
Pls don't rack my ribs young man. you say you dey dance for class?
You don't need to act like a comedian or clown to make dem accept or like you.
But the sch owners said I should continue dancing for the when teaching. Anything to arouse their interest is welcomed
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by missionmex(m): 12:52pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Yes, I have! Now, please, answer the question! undecided

If student A called student B stupid, what do you think student B should do to student A? Think carefully before responding! undecided
You compare a student to a teacher, your level of understanding is too shallow.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by femi4: 12:54pm On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

Some parents also try to bully teachers cos they are backed up by the school owners. After all, a customer is always right. If a Parent contracts u to have a private lesson for their child, and such parent refuses to pay you at the time they should pay, and u dare ask for your money, u could be in hot soup. The parent might call the school owners to report that you're harassing them and you will get the blame. In fact, the school owners tell u what to charge them.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

How can a Proprietoress who was once a teacher in someone's sch boldly tell her staff that their Future end here in her sch, and that the students are now the future. And that the children will be more successful than the teachers? . It tells a lot as to how she sees and perceives her employees and reason she mistreats her staff. She has placed a limit on us that we can't go beyond where we are.

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.
Stop deducting the scores right there. Just put your signature on the sheet. Only you know what it means. That way, you keep them guessing
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by 7upnigeria: 12:56pm On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
The teachers there are all women. We are 42 teaching staff in bothe the creche, kindergarten, nursery, primary and secondary. Out of the 42 staff, only five a men, including me. But even the men still act as women. They are controlled by the school owners. Three weeks ago, I was informed that I would be given management position in the school, but I politely turned it down. Why? Because as a management staff, my suggestions will never be given due consideration so what's the point? There's also no special salary for that. I told my Boss, that I will always come up with ideas to better the sch and act the way he wants, but I can't accept the role of being a management staff. He was shocked.
Now we can't have a union. They won't allow it. Cos they will see it as a rebellious union. I first taught in 2012. And after a term in that sch, I was made the dean of studies and chairman of staff welfare. I was so so close to the sch owners and was highly influential cos I was extremely dedicated to duty. That's the sch I will never forget . A great sch who wants discipline and sanity
Better leave, how can you have a UNION in someone else's school. Is it a government school?
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by 7upnigeria: 1:05pm On Nov 09, 2024
Atuero:
I concur
.I think the OP like complaining too much, as an experienced teacher according to your narratives, you should advise the Proprieties to design a standard rules and regulations guiding the running of the school so una wey be employees go dey follow am, failure which attracts sanctions.

I don't see anything extraordinary in what you reported
There should be standard rules for late coming
Absenteeism
Exam malpractices
Theft
Indecent dressing
Rude behavior

This will guide your actions towards the offender and not acting on conjecture
To me, life should not be difficult. If youre working in a place and their principles are against your principles, SIMPLY WALK AWAY.

Most schools are only interested in INCREASING PROFIT. Why do you think there's so much malpractices during WAEC, its because school owners aid exam malpractice. They know if students don't pass WAEC IN THEIR SCHOOL, they'll not get enrollment. So, the only option they have is to do whatever it takes to MAKE STUDENTS PASS.

Let the OP go to work, do his job and go back home, WHICH ONE BE UNION?
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Karleb(m): 1:05pm On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
Pls gimme another job now and I will gladly leave
You are not ready.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by 7upnigeria: 1:07pm On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
But it is right for a student to disrespect a teacher and even insult the teacher? A student told a teacher that she's stupid
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Lamasta(m): 1:12pm On Nov 09, 2024
illicit:
It wouldn't happen.

Not to my face...

If it happens, there are disciplinary measures the school will take

Do you think.i should punch the child in the face?
Your response to the young Man is not encouraging....
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Lamasta(m): 1:14pm On Nov 09, 2024
VinnyBaba:
If you are taken to Man City Academy for football and a child call you stupid, you will beat him, abi?😏😕

Most of you supporting the OP are IGNORANT about teaching rules. undecided

Just like Foreign countries, Some schools are Soft on punishment for Kids.

You as a Staff should adhere and respect their Wishes instead of being Headstrong like the Uncouth and Immature OP. sad
How many times have you read in the news that Man City academy learners call their trainer or mentors stupidhuh
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by 7upnigeria: 1:17pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kobojunkie:
In the current economy, you want him to begin considering dumping his job to look for a better paying job? undecided
Then he shouldn't try to give RULES in another person's school.

Anywhere I work, THE RULES MUST FAVOUR ME. If you like don't disciple your students, thats your own problem. The moment I realise your principles are against my life, AM OUT.

SECONDLY, most schools dont have RIGID RULES as they're just business centres. The rules you shouldn't joke with arr the ones that affect you personally. If the OP continues to rebel against SCHOOL OWNERS, he'll find himself out of job very soon.
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